It's Topical I Adetshina's citizenship saga - Who counts as a South African?

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@patienceikombele9161 2 ай бұрын

Home Affairs is the problem in SA. We can blame Nigerians and Pakistanis all we want. Some Home Affairs officials are corrupt and greedy. That department needs a thorough cleaning from the Security up to the top officials.

@anticorrup-g5o 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Minister Schreiber will not allow this to continue. Millions of undocumented. This must stop.

@marshallmouton-kq1xv 2 ай бұрын

Home affairs should be held accountable for this cause how does something like this happen

@bafilambozo8476 2 ай бұрын

South Africa is not a country for a specific people. South Africa is not a tribal country. In fact South Africa is a region, that is, South of Africa, named by white people. If you are a Zulu then you are from Kzn, you are not from Limpopo or North West and you are not the same people as the people of these provinces. What would make you as a Zulu or as a Sutho be the same people as Pedi or Tswana people and be diferent to Shona, Ndebele, Shangaan or Kalanga?? All these people are different to one another. Each one of them is a specific tribe, it is a unique, none is the same as the other. These borders where put by the colonialists to conquer you , devide to better and easily conquer and then rule. None of the tribes created these borders. And why are you so obssessed with the colonial past to the point of discriminating and humiliating other blacks????????? If this is the logic then bring back the apartheid system. Your issue is that SA is more developed than other African countries and this being the reason why people come here, so what? Did you develop SA??? It was developed by white people, and white people are not xenophobic toward others. They may be racists but not xenophobic. Some say that SA can not carry the whole Africa. That is nonsense. The African continent has 1.2 billion people. The population of SA is 65 million including foreigners. Are the remaining 1.13 billion African people living in SA? They are in their own countries. They could come to SA if their wanted to. All they need is a passport. Some African countries need visa but many do not need visa to come to SA. And why is all Africa not in SA?. This is a monsense hatred, self-hate because you are lazy and incompetent and then you get jealous. The bottom line is every country in the world has a foreign population. You go to Mozambique, Angola, Congo, Malawi, Nigeria, Namibia, Ghana, Ivory coast, Kenya, etc you will see plenty foreigners there and there is no issues. Why should it be a problem in SA??? Why??? Selfish people, with mentality of entitlements

@ntombirikhotso 2 ай бұрын

Yes!!!100%

@ramasodimalete2699 Ай бұрын

True!

@FikileMkhabela-r3e 2 ай бұрын

South Africa needs to fight corruption.

@bafilambozo8476 2 ай бұрын

@matrix0085 2 ай бұрын

Its disappointing that after 30yrs of democracy, The S.A govt failed its people, instead of raising the issues that effect citizens they use labels to excuse the failure,with words like Xenophoic, Afrophobic, Apartheid lovers and Colonists. After those words the problem is shelved. Then the problems get bigger and worst before Govt does anything. S.A national security should be put first. Just in a few months in S.A news there was,zama zama, illegal construction workers,illegal military training, drug,child and sex trafficking. There are major issues that are NOT being dealt with.

@tsekomofokeng182 2 ай бұрын

All these because of useless ANC government. They don't know what to do. Theirs is to steal. They don't care. ANC are mamparas

@NomavusoMakinyane 2 ай бұрын

Volume up please 🙏

@jameskillu9171 2 ай бұрын

How come you PURE black south africans, who are not zama zama, illegals, zim, nigerians etc cant win Miss South Africa,

@confidencemalatjie8037 2 ай бұрын

@@matrix0085 nigerians are cry bullies

@ayakhasokabo8816 2 ай бұрын

😂Don't say that or else you'll be labeled as a Xenophob

@WilliamTselapedi-r2h 2 ай бұрын

Law is final judge but Nigerians want favour even when is against the law, so must let Nigerians and Zimbabweans to have their own way in south Africa trample the law of the country. If south African had not stand against it, the law would not be put effect but to slumber. People of south Africa are heroes not celebs, not politicians, not media.

@JustinClark-r4z 2 ай бұрын

Keep quiet

@Chiedza-mm4dw 2 ай бұрын

You were trampled upon a long time ago by boers stay in your place under their feet

@steveaustin397 2 ай бұрын

So you know about law but never allowed it to take it's course while u unleash mayhem to kill ur fellow blacks in the name of xenophobia

@sunnyyande378 2 ай бұрын

@user-go7jj5mr9v, your problem is your corrupt government, system and stop chasing shadows. Nigerians and Zimbabweans are not your problem.

@Vernac2EnglishConfessions 2 ай бұрын

Like can South Africans be patriotic without being labeled? Nigeria has the same laws and they apply them. Check other African countries on mattes of Citizenship before wanting to be mother Teresa at the expense of South Africans

@FikileMkhabela-r3e 2 ай бұрын

Let political leadership solve this issue. The fact that people are flocking to South Africa is because of corrupt leadership in different African countries.

@blessings515 2 ай бұрын

Yours included

@mamakalami 2 ай бұрын

I am a SAn living in the US and so many people are flocking here. Why is it so?

@OlegDimirova-hy9gp 2 ай бұрын

и вы считаете, что ваша страна Южная Африка лучше?

@Cryptocodem 2 ай бұрын

@@OlegDimirova-hy9gpYes it is better because our country is not completely destroyed by corruption YET!!! We still have hope here especially with new government!

@wordseed3463 2 ай бұрын

💪💪👏👏👏👏💥@@mamakalami

@mrsoshadabaadman 2 ай бұрын

We are so sorry. Look at the paradise they made in Hillbrow and Sunnyside.

@bafilambozo8476 2 ай бұрын

@TELOP34 2 ай бұрын

The problem is that the ANC Government is too busy fighting for position so they can get their hands on money hence all these problems in the country.

@tsekomofokeng182 2 ай бұрын

All these because of useless ANC government

@siphombingo6545 2 ай бұрын

But no one has prof that she was born in South Africa remember the home affairs said she was a toddler when this happened what if she came with from Mozambique or somewhere else?

@tsekomofokeng182 2 ай бұрын

All these because of useless ANC government

@ufw.nhlanhla 2 ай бұрын

We are not gointo apologize to Chidimma

@godsanointed3397 2 ай бұрын

Apologize to your white masters, is that ok?

@Unicorn-jf3rs 2 ай бұрын

Your apology is not needed. Take it to the after life.

@mdralo6361 2 ай бұрын

A mother would hold a knife at its sharp point to protect their children.But Chidimma's mother went on hiding! Never appeared to advocate for her daughter. What is she hiding? DNA test should be done to validate their genetic blood relationship.

@ChildofGod-g8f 2 ай бұрын

I feel for her, but let her mother explain to her that she is a criminal. She will have to deal with her daughters heartbreak. It seems unfair, but what is done for one must be done for all.

@RaufMotlekar 2 ай бұрын

Ua@@ChildofGod-g8f

@mdralo6361 2 ай бұрын

@@ChildofGod-g8f Surely we don't hate her. She can still further her studies in SA and work if she so wish. I understand too... SA is all she knows.

@BellaBella-xz7nz 2 ай бұрын

Thank you to our 6 representatives who were part of this discussions virtually,you were great and we really felt represented in a very mature way.To our government,please get our homeaffairs in order so that we feel safe and this should go for all public departments that should be having our best interests at heart.

@laurencemakgabo1766 2 ай бұрын

South Africans were not wrong when they were asking about Chidimmah's legality & her citizenship

@JustinClark-r4z 2 ай бұрын

She was treated bad, black SA need to learn how to do better

@Chiedza-mm4dw 2 ай бұрын

Yet you never make a noise or challenge a European or Asian skin

@curiousgirljnw 2 ай бұрын

Speaking of black what about the South African black girl whose identity was stolen by this foreigner and her 23 years of suffering you preach black but steal from a black woman too hypocrisy @@Chiedza-mm4dw

@curiousgirljnw 2 ай бұрын

@@Chiedza-mm4dwno one talk of the black girl who Nigerian stole identity of???

@Cper2000 2 ай бұрын

@@curiousgirljnw exactly, crime should not be rewarded. The fact that Ms Universe Nigeria wants to give her a free pass is so wrong.

@Azikhale_ 2 ай бұрын

You forget that those twitter people are the ones who walk the streets where most of these people who get to speak on these platforms don't. So when people keep saying nigerians are selling drugs, they traffic young girls and hold fraudulent I.D documents it's not hate, it's what they witness so don't just dismiss it

@RosaMaria-gn6ub 2 ай бұрын

How do you sell drugs to people who don't buy them. All my life I've never felt the need to purchase drugs regardless on who's selling them. Where is the accountability?

@RosaMaria-gn6ub 2 ай бұрын

Just don't buy drugs!! How stupid can you be?

@spinner5079 2 ай бұрын

@@RosaMaria-gn6ubthe accountability is there and what we are saying is Nigerians should take accountability and leave if they want to sell drugs so we as south Africans can deal with the weak minded in our nation without being hindered by greedy illegal immigrants

@Vernac2EnglishConfessions 2 ай бұрын

The elite & politicians are ill informed and they make no effort to address the real issues. Patriotic South Africans will not be silenced

@forrealforreal9178 2 ай бұрын

Keep saying that until they sell drugs to your kids then we'll see where's the accountability

@whyjsolitnkosi5030 2 ай бұрын

Revamp home affairs! Greed and corruption is rampant

@Cybernetwo 2 ай бұрын

Ma Nigeria a tena finish n klaar

@WhatdoUwant5419 2 ай бұрын

Ba tella!

@NamzNK 2 ай бұрын

Their obsession with SA is shocking. We don't even know what is happening in Nigeria, we don't even care.

@goodwillsphiweandTeam 2 ай бұрын

FULL STOP

@zena3413 2 ай бұрын

We are proud of her -mia

@MsJPhosh 2 ай бұрын

It's a lie to say SA has never had problems with other races. SA always took a stand against racism/ apartheid. Now we want to deal with the disrespect of our laws by illegal immigrants, and no one is gonna stop us. Now Nigerians should just account for their people who trample upon SA basic rights of dignity and beneffiting from the opportunities and privileges that our predecessors died for, by stealing their identities, etc. That's not xenophobic.

@tsekomofokeng182 2 ай бұрын

True. All these mess because of useless ANC government which is silent on immigration. Leaders don't care anymore. We are Leaderless. The country is governing itself. All people with unscrupulous intentions are doing anything in South Africa no one is saying anything. South Africa is a play ground of devil deeds.

@SfisoDlamini-g5c 2 ай бұрын

I agree with you a hundred percent. My question to you is how many of the white so called South Africans who have done unspeakable atrocities and still continue to hold top positions in this country have been investigated for lawful citizenship? I won’t even get to the ones that flock in everyday just like the ones you mention. How many white people really are legally SA citizens. If she doesn’t embody who we are as South Africans,that needs addressing.

@jameskillu9171 2 ай бұрын

you find black men calling themselves coloured, because racism is alive and beneficial

@user-vn5fw7gl6o 2 ай бұрын

You are always have a say on SANS issues. How about addressing your issues in Zimbabwe for a change.

@bafilambozo8476 2 ай бұрын

@stanleynkosikamthembu168 2 ай бұрын

What are the intentions of the SABC regarding RSA and its people. They have become another SAHCR. Totally unacceptable.

@ambassadordee7495 2 ай бұрын

You forgot that SABC is a national TV station that must be objective, factual, and not emotionally as most of the online commentators and member of the public...

@ohlangeni 2 ай бұрын

@@ambassadordee7495 The SABC has never been objective, factual or fair. Since inception, it has always been a propaganda tool of the political elite

@zamanicele6202 2 ай бұрын

You all are heartless you all just want to take away the innocent child's rights while making excuses to justify your hate

@JohnTerblanche-l1r 2 ай бұрын

@@zamanicele6202she has rights, even refugees have rights dumbass. We just dont want a Nigi being the face of SA. Finish and klaar. We respect her, but we dont want a barely first gen immigrant showcasing SA.

@moelmangoegape6523 2 ай бұрын

@@ambassadordee7495prior to the ministers findings they were pushing a narrative that South Africans are afrofobic due to questionings

@ntokozomkhize6066 2 ай бұрын

We don't hate anyone but we do hate crime

@ikgothule6463 2 ай бұрын

Especially crime by illegal immigration

@yummydishes2279 2 ай бұрын

Hypocrites, your hatred started way before anything about her mother's alleged fraud even to light

@ntokozomkhize6066 2 ай бұрын

@@yummydishes2279 tell us something we don't know or save your data

@madikanesesethu 2 ай бұрын

Well said

@nellym46664 2 ай бұрын

@@yummydishes2279 The fact that a crime did take place proves that they were not wrong in their assumptions.

@leratomenwako6782 2 ай бұрын

Where are these people when Nigerias call us names like lazy and stupid? Can they also come forward for South African

@Rodney253 Ай бұрын

Is this even supposed to be a point for an argument? You are so dumb

@Sthembiso2020 2 ай бұрын

Thebe is low key gaslighting South Africans. There's nothing xenophobic in South Africans saying they don't want a Nigerian to represent them

@OnicaMakwakwa 2 ай бұрын

Inquiring about someone’s eligibility to be in a contest is not bullying? But since there’s a level of entitlement and lack of accountability here, we can ignore that. But what we cannot ignore is that a black mother has presumably been without an ID for 23 years or so which would have prevented her from accessing jobs, registering her child(ren), accessing benefits, etc., that’s the real travesty here yet all these reports are focused on capitulating to tantrums in support of Chidi. Thebe is the one who used terms like xenophobia and afrophobia and in fact he needs to just say he was wrong instead of now spinning. The gaslighting of South Africans who raised these issues is what’s even more problematic. The unseen victim here is a black South African woman’s dignity whom no one mentions while busy focused on Chidi. Granted she may not have known what her mother might have done, but let’s be honest here, at minimum she knew that her own claims of a Zulu mother were false - for one, her own social media profiles only had a Nigerian and Mozambican flag, why not recognize her Zulu mom? Secondly, she is entering a competition to be the face of and cultural ambassador of South Africa yet none of her profiles attempt to show a “proudly South African” imagery from flags to anything else - this I think was a major oversight on her part. It’s like being on the SA team at the Olympics yet promoting yourself with a flag of another country - not possible! Lastly, the real issues got muddied by the anti South African overtones of her Nigerian supporters - why is this not considered xenophobic? The vitriol continues to be quite extreme and particularly insulting to black South African women who’ve been called everything including that they are “only beautiful from the back not from the front” - both misogynous and hateful period. Lastly, Chidi’s withdrawal continued the gaslighting of South African where she only mentioned her and family’s safety, this was a missed opportunity for her to acknowledge that there’s new developments and an investigation underway and that it’s best to withdraw until all of that is concluded. Her silence at the vitriol of her supporters towards South Africa is also troubling.

@tsekomofokeng182 2 ай бұрын

All these because of useless ANC government. We are led by Mamparas

@anticorrup-g5o 2 ай бұрын

Well said. We are being labeled as xenophobic, our rightful stance of Patriotism relegated to the dustbin. The arrogance of other African people's tainting our sovereignty. OUR SOVEREIGNTY.

@jameskillu9171 2 ай бұрын

you cant win miss South africa, as a black lady even if your father is the ZULU king.

@anticorrup-g5o 2 ай бұрын

@@jameskillu9171 Man James, you just foolish. No intellect.

@MatthewOvb 2 ай бұрын

You are well brought up. Your write up is wisdom exhibited. You addressed the issue at hand and not the person. That's maturity, that's the spirit of ubuntu

@NancyMaduna 2 ай бұрын

It was handled with excellence you don't steal someone's identity and scream xenophobia

@NancyMaduna 2 ай бұрын

My appreciation I believe in telling the "truth" the way I see it!

@deecee73-iv3gz 2 ай бұрын

Who in particular are you referring to????

@teeanjackson4146 2 ай бұрын

Shame, this is what lack of political education does to our black South Africans 😒😥

@maritesmagaoay5652 2 ай бұрын

Was anyone arrested? Is there any arrest you guys a bunch of slaves?

@ShedrackEfosa-ml6yg Ай бұрын

It was not a Nigerian that engaged in identity theft but her mum who's Mozambique then why calling out on Nigeria

@maggiemereko8694 2 ай бұрын

Who counts as a Nigerian...a South African mother has lost identity of hers and her child...we are fighting corruption here... South Africans are expected to respect the rule of law and illegal immigrants must violate the rule of law and we South Africans must come back and bow down to them and applaud them..NONSENSE

@bafilambozo8476 2 ай бұрын

South Africa is not a country for a specific people only. South Africa is not a tribal country. In fact South Africa is a region, that is, South of Africa, named by white people. If you are a Zulu then you are from Kzn, you are not from Limpopo or North West and you are not the same people as the people of these provinces. What would make you as a Zulu or as a Sutho be the same people as Pedi or Tswana people and be diferent to Shona, Ndebele, Shangaan or Kalanga?? All these people are different to one another. Each one of them is a specific tribe, it is a unique, none is the same as the other. These borders where put by the colonialists to conquer you , devide to better and easily conquer and then rule. None of the tribes created these borders. And why are you so obssessed with the colonial past to the point of discriminating and humiliating other blacks????????? If this is the logic then bring back the apartheid system. Your issue is that SA is more developed than other African countries and this being the reason why people come here, so what? Did you develop SA??? It was developed by white people, and white people are not xenophobic toward others. They may be racists but not xenophobic. Some say that SA can not carry the whole Africa. That is nonsense. The African continent has 1.2 billion people. The population of SA is 65 million including foreigners. Are the remaining 1.13 billion African people living in SA? They are in their own countries. They could come to SA if their wanted to. All they need is a passport. Some African countries need visa but many do not need visa to come to SA. And why is all Africa not in SA?. This is a monsense hatred, self-hate because you are lazy and incompetent and then you get jealous. The bottom line is every country in the world has a foreign population. You go to Mozambique, Angola, Congo, Malawi, Nigeria, Namibia, Ghana, Ivory coast, Kenya, etc you will see plenty foreigners there and there is no issues. Why should it be a problem in SA??? Why??? Selfish people, with mentality of entitlements

@iansinclair6254 2 ай бұрын

How is it topic but not tropical identity visual bias in front of the invaders

@michaelmbetse340 2 ай бұрын

@@maggiemereko8694 you are just penny wise and pound foolish.

@WilliamTselapedi-r2h 2 ай бұрын

Mackenzie is hero not Malema,not ramaphosa, sbu, not pearl.

@saintcolzy8711 2 ай бұрын

@@WilliamTselapedi-r2h he's just another mashaba and Hhlanhla ..... opportunist politicians sponsoring hate on black against black to get easy votes

@atrouvasolutshilombo3360 2 ай бұрын

Hero for fighting against jst a black girl? 😢

@kayrams1792 2 ай бұрын

❤

@user-k9b 2 ай бұрын

@@atrouvasolutshilombo3360Not just black but legal immigration 😂

@JustinClark-r4z 2 ай бұрын

he is a drug lord

@solomonsimelane6410 2 ай бұрын

Chidima is totally not South African. In terms of the South African Law' she meet none of the requirements: finish and klaar. Provisional report or full report' in terms of the Law, It's Null and Void. Case closed.

@alphazolax1843 2 ай бұрын

The lady on black and white strips is educated and wise and she spoke very well , her voice is important and truthful in this conversation

@OmphulusaLunar Ай бұрын

Thank you ✨✨

@matrix0085 2 ай бұрын

Why hasn't Mozambique kept silent on this matter?

@JohnTerblanche-l1r 2 ай бұрын

They just as poor as us even worse for all their 30mil people is their corruption over there.

@dot510 2 ай бұрын

Mozambicans are not a group of loud people who never takes accountability.

@clockjohny6576 2 ай бұрын

@@matrix0085 what can they do? Nothing

@blueberryhill6948 2 ай бұрын

All we want is Adetshinas mother’s name we are looking for her. South Africans want to know who is the mother. We need transparency

@KwaMshenguVille 2 ай бұрын

Howbaboutvthe person who's identity have been stolen?

@clockjohny6576 2 ай бұрын

Looks like the identity which is stole is same name chidimma. Unless you name the name of the person whose identity is stolen

@AustineAmayo 2 ай бұрын

How come they are not showing the face of the person that her identity was stolen?? All this are propaganda and hypocrisy

@osdenza 2 ай бұрын

@@clockjohny6576Chief, you are uninformed. Chidimma's mother stole an ID from another woman, which prevented the South African mother from registering IDs for her children. This means Chidimma's ID wasn't stolen but was registered using a stolen ID of another mother.

@atrouvasolutshilombo3360 2 ай бұрын

@@clockjohny6576exactly

@atrouvasolutshilombo3360 2 ай бұрын

No identity was stolen this story is jst made up. 😅😅😅Trust me

@mdralo6361 2 ай бұрын

SOUTH AFRICANS ARE NOT XENOPHOBIC! OUR WOMAN LOVE THEM VERY MUCH EVEN IF SOME OF THEM ARE SHAMEFULLY ABUSED.

@bafilambozo8476 2 ай бұрын

@DaAdjeis 2 ай бұрын

Omphulusa nengwekhulu is the ONLY speaker that has spoken well like a true sister of the continent.

@NomavusoMakinyane 2 ай бұрын

She totally new all. Remember, she is studying law illegally. Definitely to become one of the corrupted lawyers. The loan should have been given to one of ours. I don't see a need for her to continue so that a lesson can be learnt.

@whyjsolitnkosi5030 2 ай бұрын

She knew! Chidima knew! They had gotten away with so much they thought they were invincible! Chidima is in her 30s not 20s a divorcee with a child😮

@NomavusoMakinyane 2 ай бұрын

@@whyjsolitnkosi5030 imagine!

@zusibone 2 ай бұрын

Whenever South Africans try to sort the country against abuses by Immigrants we will always be met with insults..Youve trivialized the word Xenophobia and Afrophobia.

@cindymashao131 2 ай бұрын

We don't have to be nice about it we must say it with our full chest

@katlegomolokoe4437 Ай бұрын

Yes! No mercy when it comes to this one unfortunately. All the other foreign nationals MUST know that when you come to SA you RESPECT the LAW. PERIOD!

@darlingtonmachilar6745 2 ай бұрын

How can she be legal here where her parents are illegal?? Clever blacks need to put their emotions aside and respect our laws

@cmarais-ks3kd 2 ай бұрын

Tha real issue here is Identity Fraud.!

@Nicole2404 Ай бұрын

Committed by home affairs officials who took the money!!! Greedy

@fridandlovu9094 2 ай бұрын

Now everyone is forced on one person while others are looting.

@JustinClark-r4z 2 ай бұрын

can you imagine

@starking26 2 ай бұрын

Where is the proof that she was born in a South African hospital?

@Geezweez788 2 ай бұрын

I even wish to hear from a person that went to school with her, hope she's not just being used in a haox to promote and fast track digitisation. Heard the home affairs minister talking about the need for digitisation while responding.

@madimkhonzeseemela1841 2 ай бұрын

A proof we all need

@michaelmbetse340 2 ай бұрын

@@starking26 many SA women were abuzz with dating Nigerians post 1994. So wait and see, you will eat humble pie.

@phathuneluvhada4668 2 ай бұрын

We're not American, because USA have their own constitutional laws. So, SA we've our own laws. Of course we cannot have a Nigerian representative in our world stage. By the way, is Thebe a real South African??? He's not representing SA

@samuelmekgwe9736 2 ай бұрын

At the other hand I think since the investigation are still going on, we shouldn't be too sure that she was born in one of SA hospital because we don't know who's I'd document is she having because apart from the issue of I'd having been stolen by her mother, she could have been given proof of birth that she was born here and maybe there was also not going to be any reason to commit I'd theft because her mother is alleged to be a Mozambican South African. Remember the father says she is 14 and I'd says 23.

@preciousmatshoba3916 2 ай бұрын

The fact is she's not a South African, were not xenophobic, congratulations Mia for being our queen

@zakhelembhele7046 2 ай бұрын

You brought this guy again!

@AustineAmayo 2 ай бұрын

So South Africa media houses don’t have any important news to talk about anymore?? The are just making this Girl more relevant The beauty pageant is also more popular after the event

@steveaustin397 2 ай бұрын

Grace has a way of working to uplift the downtrodden

@Obaratuyaayaa 2 ай бұрын

😂 they don’t cos they know South African blacks are dumb. Just give them an enemy to focus on while distracting them from their real issues😂 bunch of clowns

@anticorrup-g5o 2 ай бұрын

She will always be tainted.

@marcussamuels3699 2 ай бұрын

There was massive crime in SA before 94 in the locations like Alex, Soweto, etc and mining communities. Crime in SA is historical...Sure, some Nigerians are not clean, but to blame ALL foreigners for ALL our problems is very unfortunate...And I am one of the few South Africans brave enough to admit it...Nigerians are not r*ping our women, we are. Nigerians are not doing cash in transit, robberies etc, we are...Lets man up and admit our shortfalls and not just blame everyone but ourselves

@Kabzamatip 2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately as you are trying to take responsibility for the crimes of South Africans, Nigerians are really not clean though, I mean around the world wherever they have diaspora communities, there's a reason why the Prime Minister of the UAE administered a mass deportation of Nigerians from their country.

@ChildofGod-g8f 2 ай бұрын

I agree we shouldn't be stereotypical, but where do you get your statistics?

@yoveeditors5502 2 ай бұрын

The only rational South african thnx mate

@marcussamuels3699 2 ай бұрын

@@ChildofGod-g8f what statistics are you talking about?! It is common place! If you don't know how dangerous places like Alex, Dobsonville, etc were in SA even way before 94, before we had this influx of foreigners then I'm starting to question if you are a South African as well if you don't know our basic history. People even died on trains!! The fact is, we are traditionally a violent country. It is my personal belief that this stems from our violent past. But we can't keep crying and blaming Apartheid that caused all this nonsense. There needs to be a point when we realise that this is on us now, we need to grow above this and be better. Especially the men of this country. We have a problem and we must own it. We can never solve a problem if we don't believe it exists

@madimkhonzeseemela1841 2 ай бұрын

When they turn our young girls to prostitutios, while under drugs is it not rape? And the heists are done mostly by Zimbabwes

@stefaneisaac2754 2 ай бұрын

Our biggest problem is not necessarily Nigerians or any nationals of other countries rather our Home Affairs including securities at our borders due to corruption!

@SarahArendse-ts2pk 2 ай бұрын

I salute those persons that start open up to the talk about Chi Chi if they don't start that will never dig into her identity .They will not know about the identity theft

@davidmotlaloe5628 2 ай бұрын

It’s true that the young woman did not participate in fraud but he mother did. When dealing with crime we also deal with those who receive proceeds of crime and those who receive gratifications of any sort. This means that she also benefitted and gained citizenship because of the crime committed. Her citizenship should therefore be revoked. This act will show that as a country we are dealing harshly with imposters who just come in our country illegally.

@thecongo8505 2 ай бұрын

And how do you know you never receivd proceeds of crime like she did ?

@LucyMasetle 2 ай бұрын

DNA for both parents

@jameskillu9171 2 ай бұрын

when we get DNA of Gayton Mckenzie father,

@yoveeditors5502 2 ай бұрын

Gayton is zimbabwean that's why he hates them so much 😅

@mthobisisikhakhane 2 ай бұрын

Your guests speaking nonsense, there are many south Africans have suffered a lot due to this identity theft, others are married yet they dont know that they are married. Where will they get money to fight this in courts? Just because yourr guests are speaking like because they are privileged that is why its easy for them to speak like this

@ChildofGod-g8f 2 ай бұрын

Or they have to stand in queues at Home Affairs for hundreds of hours only to be sent home and told to come another day.

@softdoc631 2 ай бұрын

I think that is the most balanced discussion I have about this topic. I don't understand what you mean by them speaking nonsense?

@lindam7399 2 ай бұрын

I agree money talks in SA

@JoyceChikwanha-qu4ob 2 ай бұрын

Eish its so important and precious to be south african in this entire world

@BeltBeez 2 ай бұрын

Now the whole world knows Chi🎉😂

@siyabongagosani131 2 ай бұрын

Lady, even if by law she is South african she is still not South African

@ohlangeni 2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@ECOSelectBuild 2 ай бұрын

A fact is information minus emotion. An opinion is information plus experience. Ignorance is an opinion lacking information. And, stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact. If you are a citizen of South Africa learn to educate yourself on the laws of this country. If you insist that she is not South African then I put it to you that no white person in this country too is not South African by virtue of your stance because where was Home Affairs in 1652? So stop being emotional because we have white people sitting in GOVERNMENT as ministers today.

@joloved9798 2 ай бұрын

This comment is nonsensical

@joloved9798 2 ай бұрын

I am a South African and we are governed by the Constitution, not by your opinions or what you or i or Gayton thinks. Law takes precedence.

@siyabongagosani131 2 ай бұрын

@joloved9798 I cannot force you to understand unfortunately

@NtokozaPearlKhaula 2 ай бұрын

Botswana know this problems we facing that is why they will progress every time.They love thier country and they protect it.

@jjjjkk-tm9yd 2 ай бұрын

Zimbabwe doesn't jail foreign nationals refugee that's a lie i once was there

@njabulomasina4180 2 ай бұрын

- Europe facing a migration crisis - America facing a migration crisis - South Ah, although not yet facing a migration crisis, shares similar characteristics as countries facing migration crises Look at the london riots, the politics of Donald Trump, people rightfully pointing out that the whole Chidimma saga wasn't just about a pageant, but something deepr underlying. The common themes around these situations are 1. Open boardess, 2. Immigration and 3. Questions about National Identity and Patriotism

@MxolisiMncube-qd5nb 2 ай бұрын

People must remember freedom didn't come cheap and let's not sell our country cheap

@EASHBOY12 2 ай бұрын

We feel very relieved because the country is so messed up with corruption and our younger brothers and sisters identity are being stolen for fraud and get given to foreign nationals anď now she can't get access to enjoy her rightfull citizenship and other necessary means

@modisemakokwe4256 2 ай бұрын

If we so xenophobic WHY MILLIONS ARE IN OUR COUNTRY AND STIL COMING TO SOUTH AFRICA

@mapulemosidi7345 2 ай бұрын

ask again

@tsekomofokeng182 2 ай бұрын

All these because of useless ANC government

@harrydumadladla5678 2 ай бұрын

there are more Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in South Africa than Nigerians .what should our focus be

@Tinker8531 2 ай бұрын

Don't worry about how the world views of South Africa. Many countries have the same problems wthl illegal immigration.

@FlorenceSeptember 2 ай бұрын

When will you make a program for all the victims of Identity Theft !!!! You are more interested in other countries citizens !!!! Our people suffers due to ID theft !!!!

@thembalembede4088 2 ай бұрын

when will we start drawing a clear line between X..phobia and patriotism ?

@johnnymohane4494 2 ай бұрын

I "THINK" the reason of her withdrawal could be as a results of her knowing he real identity and the real scam behind. Surely if it is alleged as was said by the Minister of HA, that she could not knew what the mother did, she would hold on to participate until otherwise decided knowingly that she is legitimately SAn, or atleast wait to hear those who are investigating. BY succumbing to the pressure that she must resign ,may tell that she knows something

@mxolisimaome9651 2 ай бұрын

What are wo obsessed this girl tried her chance it didn't work... She has never been or identified as South African

@NomavusoMakinyane 2 ай бұрын

Fact!

@jameskillu9171 2 ай бұрын

Those who identified themselves as black south africans, with correct surnames, and culture, did not win Miss South Afrca, either,

@user-vn5fw7gl6o 2 ай бұрын

How is that your business?

@KudakwasheMufema 2 ай бұрын

Zimbabwe doesnt arrest africans from other African countries

@Siyabonga9 2 ай бұрын

We the only country who stood out and diffended the rights of the people in Palestine last year and that says alot about our spirit of ma'at So don't test us, we will defend our rights

@mbhekitembe2179 2 ай бұрын

I just learned that there is such a thing as Miss Diaspora Nigeria beauty pageant in the USA, not a bad idea seeing that Nigerians are scattered all over the world. Why then not organise their own Miss Diaspora Nigeria in South Africa, that way their own will win fairly among fellow Nigerians.

@fishmeyer9870 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if the same action would have been taken by home affairs had Chaddimma been of European origins or identity

@anticorrup-g5o 2 ай бұрын

Of course. We know who our people are. Whether white or black. Ons ken ons mense.

@martinmahlaba8101 2 ай бұрын

Wayaka ai

@jesuslovesyou836 2 ай бұрын

Nope

@ChildofGod-g8f 2 ай бұрын

I think it would have if RSA citizens had raised it to Gayton. I think in the past Ministers were not in touch with the people on the ground.

@anticorrup-g5o 2 ай бұрын

Thanks great debate. We are having the conversations.

@luthomacingwane6044 2 ай бұрын

I doubt this lady is Chidima's biological mother. No parent would put their childs future in shambles, like this lady did.

@thomaspoole4174 2 ай бұрын

Although it is a subject that deserves more of the spotlight due to the seemingly lack of knowledge and understanding about the nuances of citizenship in south africa, the fact this specific example of a pagent finalist has taken up so much of the public and Media attention is ridiculous, there are so many other issues in the country thst deserves the spotlight to this degree, let home affairs handle the situation and move on, the only thing that this story, accross all media platforms has shown me personally is that south african citizenship is not automatic which is obscene and that there is deep xenophobic and afro-phobic tendencies we are dealing with in our society which is shocking, we are all one people and need to show our humanity to one another.

@amm7088 2 ай бұрын

I am sorry but the Black gentleman on the panel with you Blaine needs a lot of waking up to do ! if we want to progress we need to start making positive moves NOT EXCUSES .

@stanfordneutt6756 2 ай бұрын

This is a very powerful discussion. Please can any one on your panel declare what are you a white, black, coloured or Indian after being naturalized as a South African 🇿🇦 Citizen. The ANC promotes black ethnicity, instead of calling all South Africans 🇿🇦, this diversity focus is very detrimental. I am South African 🇿🇦 but not really because, the home affairs wants me to believe that I am a coloured , not a South African 🇿🇦. What does one choose black, white, coloured or Indian.

@Rodney253 Ай бұрын

Nigerians are beautiful, talented, adaptive,strong,versatile,intelligent, globetrotters,risk takers. Thats why we excel all over the world more than any other African nation. We are the bosses anytime anyday.

@saintcolzy8711 2 ай бұрын

Ngikhalela izwe lami... inzondo yomuntu omnyama idlulele

@TimTebSep51 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@Azikhale_ 2 ай бұрын

Udakiwe

@JuicyJLee 2 ай бұрын

The hatred for Crime is real.... We hate crime we don't care if you American Asian or African...

@mzwakhe3219 2 ай бұрын

Mxm

@costergumede9457 2 ай бұрын

You can say that again 😢

@queensandyakukwe1234 2 ай бұрын

They need to find the mother to do DNA test to find out if the girl is her mother.. only the mother her tell the truth. If she brought her into SA as a child. The mother must tell the truth.

@MandlaNhlapo-ip3ls 2 ай бұрын

It was handled badly, and the attacks were misplaced which I'm ashamed of. I have never thought I will be a citizen of a country that hates itself so much and disgusted by the people on the socials who ruthlessly and senselessly went against this poor girl who had no hand in the wrongs of her mother

@dianasekatane6045 2 ай бұрын

What about the victim who's citizenship was stolen from her for over 20 years?? Chidimma is not a victim but an unlawful beneficiary of what she wasn't supposed to.

@NEOzzzar 2 ай бұрын

If you think we'll agree on everything in this country might as well get urself chronic medication in advance...in South Africa there's no buying face🥱

@sagenamugongo7008 2 ай бұрын

Both were victims...u bullied the poor girl...shame on you

@lwandomnyabiso1990 2 ай бұрын

I am patriotic and I often speak about the unlawful Nigerians, Zimbabweans that are in this country doing so much crime destroying South Africans. To do this in the manner they did to the poor child i am ashamed at times and they still do not see anything wrong that they did. Even though they were right in questioning, not in the manner of insults when the poor girl also has found out and has identity crisis right now.

@mzwakhe3219 2 ай бұрын

Nangu muntu ashaya i own goal

@romanussaal712 2 ай бұрын

When Nigeria did the same to a lady who was in similar situation as the Miss SA girl in question...My question is ...What do we called it, was that also a sign of xenophobia or xenophobic or hatred...

@dragomirmarinov6560 2 ай бұрын

She is not SA, the ID IS NOT A SITIZEN SHIP

@chaukelattovulture106 2 ай бұрын

South Africa and Nigeria have beef. They compete over who is the best.

@ekwebelemchibuike2958 2 ай бұрын

No we don't compete, you not worth a competitor.

@SiyabulelaNtoza 2 ай бұрын

@@ekwebelemchibuike2958Yet you're here in our platforms. Y'all are obsessed.

@zithulelesidwellntshudu7064 2 ай бұрын

Thorough investigation needs to be established within Homes Affairs they are the cause of heinous disaster.

@HarwardMbonxa 2 ай бұрын

I must say I was pleased by the people of Botswana who were quick to put black south africans in their place or space when they wanted opportunistically when to claim Botswana's gold medalist as an African victory and as expected the people of Botswana did not take kind to be congratulated by black south africans who do not want to be associated with Africa and now have audecity to talk about so called African victory and who 92% of them still lives in abject poverty.

@madimkhonzeseemela1841 2 ай бұрын

Please, please do not say South Africans wanted to claim Tebogo,,it is only one person who is Somizi,he was trying to shift the attention on what he did to South Africans

@HarwardMbonxa 2 ай бұрын

@@madimkhonzeseemela1841 probably you are dreaming in your europe and happy that black people all over the world now hate black south africans with passion including myself and will celebratge any catastrophy that will befall them.

@teeanjackson4146 2 ай бұрын

(The focus has always been with "one person who sells a loaf of bread" rather than "one person who owns 3m hectares of land") Wow, very powerful 💪🤔

@ConfusedBobsleigh-to9lv 2 ай бұрын

Why don't you ask or held another show on miss hellen zile who's both parents aren't south African or African. Today she is the most fearful female in the country. Oh that's why the media doesn't touch her background and another personalities well known these medias. Tell the truth even if it hurts. That the only way to move forward rather than critizing one part and protecting another part. Mr minister of the home affairs you have my respect ❤ Just be you and use your consciousness when taking decisions because you are in the most challenging position than ever. It's really sad what this country facing

@KudakwasheMufema 2 ай бұрын

Yu cn say tht again

@arhadi-mt3fs 2 ай бұрын

I love Chidimma, I am South African, she is the best thing between South African and Nigerians

@AfricanOnline_TV 2 ай бұрын

We don't care

@phazimabuffalophaz6545 2 ай бұрын

@@AfricanOnline_TV True We don't and it's not Xenophobic Fraud is Fraud and She is not South African Yes She is African and we acknowledge Her but this nonsense of Us to be Judged as a Xenophobic Country as South Africa 🇿🇦 is Unconstitutional We can not have Other African Individuals be legally recognized in our Country when our Own are Deported and Exiled in their own countries because of their Laws so their Laws in their very own countries Should be Regarded and Ours as South Africa be Disregarded that is Pure Unfairness

@shk1soulgodly883 2 ай бұрын

@rodneyhassin338 2 ай бұрын

She's NOT a SA citizen.. Love her or hate her that's your baby... By the way I love too as beautiful Nigerian young lady.😊

@katlegomolokoe4437 Ай бұрын

Only Jesus Christ is the best for South Africa and Nigeria. As for chidimma who has never died for the sins of the world is a sinner like everyone else. Stop idolizing chidimma

@mushoriwazoneli9815 2 ай бұрын

At least people are being thought about how to obtain SA citizenship

@oratuwe8114 2 ай бұрын

Chidimma is a beautiful young and strong woman who will come out victorious. No weapon formed against you shall prosper sesi. May the Lord unify Africans.

@thembimaseko9600 2 ай бұрын

Exactly she is a future Miss Nigeria.

@apotrehonorempongo6008 2 ай бұрын

Blocking temporal visas affect tourism industry

@michaelmbetse340 2 ай бұрын

Born in SA, belongs in SA.

@ohlangeni 2 ай бұрын

@walkwithorr 2 ай бұрын

Belongs where parents belong.

@pearcekanyoka2453 2 ай бұрын

💯 south african

@tok1879 2 ай бұрын

@@walkwithorrunless they're colonizer descendents😅

@Cper2000 2 ай бұрын

Hey go study South Africa law. We don't need criminality either small or big.

@SipokaziMkatshwa 2 ай бұрын

The Europeans follow correct process of acquiring citizenship and do not come to our country to break the law and deal with drugs they come here to help us with the economy and please don't confuse things her a rugby player can represent us cos they are part of the team with a skill that we need which we will pay them for we need rare skill not those who want to suck up from us

@queenannaincbrown9979 2 ай бұрын

A mzungu booty linger.

@khulengema6673 2 ай бұрын

How come the organizers did not get this rite from the beginning , negligence from their side as well .

@MariaMotseki-j8w 2 ай бұрын

Yes she's a South African citizen she was born and raised in South Africa

@YusufDuale-eq4kl 2 ай бұрын

They must investigate the citizenship of Naledi also.

@amm7088 2 ай бұрын

I am sorry but the Black gentleman on the panel with you Blaine needs a lot of waking up to do ! if we want to progress we need to start making positive moves NOT EXCUSES . Why is it ok for people to disregard our laws , IT is Never too late to do the right thing

@apotrehonorempongo6008 2 ай бұрын

Certain reactions from certain politicians are typically reasoning at the level of social media

@alexmooya6170 2 ай бұрын

If one thinks about it, even the current winner is not a South African per say.... interesting times to be alive for sure

@RGL-b1q 2 ай бұрын

Let Roux she is Afrikaans speaking and not French don't get it wrong....Sy is eintlik trots SA

@softdoc631 2 ай бұрын

@@RGL-b1qThat is not a zulu name. It is french.

@RGL-b1q 2 ай бұрын

@@softdoc631 she is Afrikaans which is a SA language ...Zulu is about one of the 11 cultures/languages.Im of the view by your statement that you not South african

@richardnixoncole4267 2 ай бұрын

That girl who wore white and black T-shirt is a voice that should be put on media to be Heard BTW I’m a Nigerian and peace between boarders is a must for all countries and not preferential treatment

@ChildofGod-g8f 2 ай бұрын

Legal Nigerians are not a problem. The problem comes in when we're talking illegals and people like this mother that have committed fraud.