Inside NASA’s UAP Report with Commission Chair David Spergel & Neil deGrasse Tyson

[@StarTalk]

What do you think the UAPs might be?

[@oldcowbb]

80% optical illusion (ducks) 10% secret tech test, 10% weather phenomenon

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

I think the propulsion system is based on a thought I have. The CMBR is consistent throughout the universe. At 2.72K, dark matter is in superconductor state. Light passes through dark matter and generates the CMBR. Light has to be a specific luminocity and after it passes through dark matter, it is stretched into redshift. Using the CMBR, Planck Constant & E=mc^2, DM mass calculates to 1.181 X 10^-39 kg. Dark matter fills the void in the electron cloud and is the glue that binds it. (The weak force) Dark matter is more tightly bound in the nucleus, therefore the strong force. Dark matter is responsible for electricity (the electromagnetic force) And, Dark matter generates the CMBR, and is the fabric of space that moves the galaxies. We do not have 4 fundamental forces, we have 1 fundamental force that we observe in 5 configurations or states.

[@mortophobegaming6454]

Unidentified Air Pollutions

[@songokugogu5734]

so last night i was looking up for perseids and i did see some real nice ones, but i also saw multiple sattelite looking lights within minutes of eachother in the same region of sky that were blinking like a tumbling piece of spacejunk in orbit. so i saw the first one, hey that's cool, i saw a tumbling piece of a rocket. but then i see 4 more in the same area , i thought that's odd

[@tokonjudo]

Well whoever is reading this, what do I think the UAPs might be? I think they might be 'made up'. Are you telling me that science and all it's focus on energy and everything that is materially within our scope can't see/detect movement? ha ha ha.

[@Tiziano_Ferrari]

I believe the content of this video helps to increase the stigma around those who do sightings of unidentified objects as pilots. The attitude of science is to collect data and experiment, not to spend most of the time laughing at other people who may naively have a credulous attitude.

[@toby9999]

Not really.

[@ubuntugraphy]

I agree

[@ash_yt0]

Did you even watch the video? They specifically talked about how there should be no stigma around someone who reported an odd sighting, and that there are efforts to reduce that in the military also. Collect some of your own data next time by actually taking the time to watch the video.

[@Tiziano_Ferrari]

Thank you for the invitation, but I have watched the video thoroughly and in full and I believe my considerations on the matter are well founded. The video evidently has a level of non-verbal communication which unfortunately grossly denies the intent of the mandate entrusted to the NASA commission, and I am sorry to note it.@@ash_yt0

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@bobcooper9008]

So my question would be if Mr Spergel doesn't have access to all the data ie classified material, then how can he provide an accurate report to NASA?

[@foolishcoyote.]

Excellent question......because I've learned absolutely nothing from this 'supposed expert...which means....he knows didley squat on the subject.....you may as well be talking to a camp counselor.

[@JT_771]

Simply that the report is restricted to public sightings/data & not classified. They want info they can be public with.

[@JT_771]

@@foolishcoyote. 'supposed', 'knows didley squat' and 'camp counselor' eh? At least foolish is right in your tag.

[@foolishcoyote.]

@JT_771 We young Americans must be smarter than our government... the average person who shops at Walmart knows that both the tic tac ufo 🛸 & triangle ufo craft were developed by skunkworks Lockheed Martin out in Palmdale, California. The u.s. navy has patented ufo tech. Currently these crafts are operated under the u.s. space Force command. FACTS 🇺🇸

[@bobman929]

His report would be that there isn't any data to suggest its anything we can't explain.

[@tgcrissy7327]

I'm happy to see that this scientist running this program at NASA takes the conversation of UAP's more seriously than Neil and his other guest

[@robbren8679]

Yeah. I love Neil, but he totally has an ego and bias when it comes to this subject.

[@andrewhigdon8346]

He’s laughing because he knows with all certainty that there are no aliens.

[@GameTimeWhy]

Serious about ALIENS?

[@adoa433]

well i think they are out there but we have not existed long enough for them to find us if they did find us they are a super advanced being , and have the ability to scan many systems for life and have developed technologies that far surpass us and in that case they would not visit but just observe and we would still not know they are there from a time frame standpoint@@andrewhigdon8346

[@tgcrissy7327]

@@andrewhigdon8346 Nothing could possibly ever get here until he figures out how to do it first

[@MikkeyFacts]

'So David, how did you step in to this?' Folloween by laughter and snickering by the co-hosts. I love that David Spergel kept a straight face and let them finish giggling before he answered the question. David not playing along with the stigma. Kudos David

[@sethjensen2291]

All calculated. Glace through the comments. The majority of fans that come here are 100% unwilling to acknowledge the evidence something strange is happening. I've spoken with a few now. They expect ridicule and embrace it.

[@facespaz]

@@sethjensen2291 I'm a skeptic, but not 100% unwilling like you say. I think based on this discussion, we can follow a logical thread like this: The Chinese and other countries are capable of copying technology created in the States as shown by those spy balloons. IF the US military created advanced drones (those pills?), the LAST thing they'd want is to have this technology copied by other countries. It's a matter of national security.

[@imyourhuckleberry6130]

Yeah u called it Neil and cohost pretty much started out by showing how much better they are than the guest and tried to knock him down a peg. Pretty sad

[@xpltflr]

@@imyourhuckleberry6130 "showing how much better they are" I'm sry but you have to be terminally autistic to read human behaviour that way.

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@aahssad9463]

I like how the guys stays calm and doesn't get upset good job not letting your emotions get involved great conversation

[@maxipags4375]

Neil for me has already lost curiosity and since we know the answer from logic, he loses as a scientist.

[@Nobbie248]

​​@@maxipags4375agree, its very annoying how he tries to laugh away anything that goes against NASA's credibility in anyway

[@JonnoPlays]

How can you say emotions weren't involved? They laughed at the subject non stop and ridiculed the subject with lots of derogatory comments. Real scientific.

[@wodan74]

There is a difference in accepting the possibility of extra terrestrial life and believing they already visited earth. Nowadays I see many people arguing that the first is proof for the second.

[@Vynzent]

People be jumping the gun like that. It's hilarious.

[@IndianTiger-0P]

This comment should blast

[@Stratosarge]

Its the same kind of thinking with all sorts of pseudoscience. All the energyhealing, quantum vonsciousness and stuff like that. I compare it all to saying that just because we know how to build castles and we known that clouds exist does not mean we can build cloudcastles. It is all about critical thinking and understanding to limit our beliefs strictly to how far the evidence takes us.

[@mubarakbinamro]

Even if extraterrestrial life existed, if you think of the distances between galaxies or between stars within our galaxy, it would require a very advanced transportation technology, at least speed light ships, for alens to reach earth; unless of course they few light years away from us. Let's say an extraterrestrial civilization exists in a planet that is 5000 light years away from us, and they possess speed light transportation vehicles. In order for them to reach earth within our lifetime, they should have started the trip about 5000 years ago.

[@lasse4416]

Yeah! Couple points: - Yes, life outside earth is almost certain considering vast size of universe. - Chance of it being intellectual life that is capable of FTL travel AND that they would want to come visit us is slim - Also they would have to visit us withing lets say couple thousand year to leave any mark for us to see is SLIM in context of billions of years old galaxy. Personally i think there is 0% chance of this.

[@Mon22king]

The whole reason why the images are classified really opened up my perspective, Thanks for making that clear.

[@lylebob]

It’s bs… they could easily take out the HUD information…

[@jetgdvsdfgd]

It's a psyop to distract from the destruction of the country

[@666MaRius9991]

@@lylebob Can't take out the metadata though 🤔

[@danf1862]

@@lylebob that isn't how it works. Why would they spend money on that. Think about it. Modify x amount of images and data OR do nothing. Which one costs the least to do? That's right! Do nothing.

[@lylebob]

Wish I could explain to you guys, I can’t speak on it due to work but it’s possible and there are departments dedicated to review, edit and public release should video it be made available to the public. They released the the FLIR to The NY Times why would they not be able to release videos from the past?

[@srijunair]

As scientists you guys must be more curious and ask government to investigate and not the common man. When you believe in science then you should know our understanding is very limited. Anything completely out of our current understanding is actually an opportunity to learn and take a giant leap instead of laughing at it. Galileo was also laughed at.

[@MallGrabtheClown]

Its just artifacts in the lens... Nothing to see here...

[@davsaa33]

wire wrapping around camera, done edit: sarcasm

[@HiddenPalm]

You got it wrong, buddy. It's the government who should ask these guys to investigate, not the other way around. You're not going to ask AOC, Sarah Palin, Pelosi, Giuliani, and the Clintons to investigate UAPs. The government should ask the scientists and pay them for their work.

[@user-꿀단지]

​@@dejuren1367Galileo was not killed for homosexuality, he was placed under house arrest for his views on heliocentrism and lived to age 77

[@thereisnospoon52]

Galileo used the technology of his day, the telescope and math, to prove his then radical ideas. Today's technology has billions of high resolution cameras all over the world. Yet the only pictures of UFOs are blurry indistinguishable nonsense. Unlike Galileo your theory has zero proof. Time for a new religion dude.

[@tokitobe2450]

I just want to say how happy I am that this exists. I've always been horrible at science, always got bad grades, and my partner is the one who listens to StarTalk. It took a few years but I'm finally starting to listen to these out of my own curiosity about what's really out there. Thanks for making this stuff interesting

[@zenpremiumcannabis5670]

Member to think for yourself, too

[@chargersina]

I’m so sorry you didn’t find a good teacher. It would’ve made all the difference.

[@GameTimeWhy]

​@@zenpremiumcannabis5670yeah don't ever listen to others or learn new things. Only use your own faculties. Ignore all of human knowledge. Real freethinker™ energy coming from you

[@rudolphpironti4139]

Why does Neil support the castration and mutilation of children?

[@alphacitizen857]

Thats most unfortunate.. should really be called star propaganda

[@Thepeanutgallery666]

Also, if they crossed vast distances of outer space, there's no need for lights out there. The question shouldn't be if they have lights, it should be WHY WOULD they have lights? Just because we put lights on our craft, does not mean that they would want lights on theirs. Especially if they don't serve a purpose

[@MossyMozart]

@Thepeanutgallery666 - Excellent point!

"Tell military HD cams exist" - military does have HD content (e.g Senators see them behind the scenes). As discussed, military is inteterested in not revealing those images and capabilities, and they release a lower quality image on purpose.

[@DragonFiesta]

I hope NASA gets the app going, when I was a kid (the 90s) me and my dad listened on the scanner to the local cops flip out about a UFO, eventually they found the local farmer who had built a helicopter to spray his crops.

[@MossyMozart]

@DragonFiesta - In high school, my friend and I were frozen when we saw a bright UFO light that seemed very close over her uncle's field. And yes, it resolved into a helicopter.

[@mariknutson7307]

My husband and I saw a UAP in the 1990's. Before cell phones. It was at night, and happened so fast, that there was no time to get a camera. We didn't know of any technology at the time that could fly like that. It was incredibly fast, and moved abruptly, changing angles, and then was gone. Cell phones, even in our hands, would not have been fast enough to capture it before it was gone. We assumed it was a secret military craft, with technology that we were not familiar with.

[@Allgone-b4k]

3rd of April 1973 first official cell phone. You're 17 years out from your prediction

[@prying_minds]

@@Allgone-b4k but... The Sharp J-SH04 became the first cell phone to feature a camera. Launched in the year 2000, the phone was sold exclusively in Japan. Two years later, Sanyo and Sprint teamed up to release the first camera phone in the US.

[@HorizonsleatherBlogspot2012]

@@Allgone-b4k The 1990's was a time before cell phones, I grew up in the 80's and was a young adult in the 90's. It wasn't until the early 2000's when cell phones were starting to become a thing people carried around, with roaming charges -ouch.

[@schwubbi]

@@Allgone-b4k you gonna try call that object to stand still until you can get a camera? or what would you hope to achieve with a cellphone from the 90s? throw it at them?

[@Tom_Mroz]

@@Allgone-b4k Low level IQ alert should be attached to your handle. 2007 iPhone 1 had 2-megapixels camera. Do a bit of thinking what kind of pictures you could take with it, although I admit that such task might be a bit too much intellectually demanding for you.

[@0p161]

The SMUG laughter is not what this subject needs. Its sober reflection and examination.

[@darrenduerden]

Totally agree. “Let’s dispel the stigma”…..startalk continues to mock the subject. David was the only one taking it seriously. Disappointing watch

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@Souljourney22]

Their minds are already made up!

[@Achowchannel]

I really appreciate David giving extremely level headed perspective on this topic which seems wild that its takes Neal's platform before we can get sensible answers. THANKS!

[@Sila8646]

At 20 mins and 14 secs, David says he has no clearances. Does that apply to his ability to access classified data on UFO’s as-well? Love the show ❤

[@UltraK420]

No clearances means no access to classified materials. He barely knows more than any average person about UFOs, if any. Their attitudes might change when some of the hard evidence is revealed.

[@jamesgreen2495]

Yes NASA is not analysing any classified data. This is a joke NASA investigation. NASA already knows UFOs are real. They are lying.

[@TheAjrclark]

@@aaronmckay. If data relevant to UAP is classified and not thus not seen, then of course it matters! I'm can't make sense of your logic there mate.

[@eric-.]

@@TheAjrclarkhe's not saying the classified data doesn't matter. He's saying that because the parameters of the mission specifically state 'publicly available data only', then it doesn't matter if anyone on the project has access to classified data or not, because that's outside the defined scope of the project. of course the classified data is important and should be studied, they're just choosing to not use it for this project so they can get as much collaboration with the scientific community and the public as possible.

[@TheAjrclark]

@@eric-. i still don't understand this, sorry. Choosing not to use the data u need for any project/research is bad. If the the fact that this invesigation is public facing prevents researchers looking at the very things they need to see (which if read like this then it clearly does), then there's no point in doing it at all. Either that, or it shouldn't be a public project.

[@realestatesquats2174]

At the start, I wasn’t sure how this conversation was going to go, but I really enjoyed it a lot. Hearing scientist discuss a Once taboo subject. This was great.

[@ML-qj7eb]

Yes!!! I enjoyed also the science and intelligent talk. Not missed at all the fart jokes and yelling from previous co-host

[@bigdopamine9343]

It’s never been taboo, it’s just there’s no evidence of aliens so scientists dismiss the possibility until we have reason to believe otherwise.

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@sethjensen2291]

This was the most disappointing scientific discussion I've ever encountered.They belittled their own guests assignment before he could even tell us what it was. Then ridiculed the possibly world changing Congressional hearing on UFOs without a single justification. Before analyzing a single technical topic, prejudice and sinicism was cast over the entire theme of the episode.. lol amazing the how vastly different people's perspectives are on this story.. I still love you tho.

[@sethjensen2291]

@@horacesheffield7367 no matter how rich or famous you are. Insulting or belittling someones work, let alone your own guest on a scientific podcast is less than good. Your sensitivity to alien ideas is aside from the point.

[@wildgoose419]

I think the stigma against people reporting UAP comes not so much from the act of reporting but the unbelievable set of adjectives and acclamations they add to their sentences. If people would just stick to the basic facts and plain descriptions, then it wouldn't be so ridiculed. I totally agree with the collecting good/better data bit.

[@robonearth5533]

The stigma against people reporting UAP comes from our nature, culture and leaders. The age old notion that we are the center of the universe is still at play. Consider these events and how the people were treated. Frank Mannor - Dexter, Michigan, USA 1966 (harassed by community) Andrew Greenwood - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1966 (threatened by officials) Kenju Terauchi - Alaska, USA 1980 (temporarily reassigned to desk job) Also look at The Phoenix Lights in 1997 and the Chicago O'Hara Airport flying saucer 2006 to see how institutions and people in positions of authority reacted. These are just a few examples but there are very many cases of people silenced or suffering because they said what they saw. That's slowly changing for the better.

[@Vynzent]

Exactly. People always recall their memories more vividly than what actually happened in these reports. A blurry small light suddenly is explained as some bright pulsing set of lights that zig-zagged across the sky, and, more hilariously, started chasing the person.

[@bigdopamine9343]

@@robonearth5533 no, there’s just no evidence of aliens visiting earth so it would be dumb to assume something is an alien just because you don’t know what it is.

[@Jesse-cw5pv]

​@@bigdopamine9343 there is evidence, which is what is being investigated. There certainly is no proof tho. But there is some fairly weak evidence (UAPs and eyewitness accounts ect..) and that should be investigated

[@robonearth5533]

@@bigdopamine9343 Your statement is brief, lacks detail and seems to hit a broad area. If you want hard scientific evidence that non-humans (aliens) are visiting earth you may live to see it, sooner or later. Since 2017 the effort to collect information in a scientific standardized way has ramped up. David Spergel is part of the effort at NASA. If you want evidence of aliens visiting Earth ask me. I'd be happy to provide you with a huge list of evidence. If they're not aliens but instead NHI from another dimension, NHI from another verse, NHI from a previous advanced civilization here on Earth, humans from a previous advanced civilization on Earth, humans that have come to here from the future, or something else that's not us I will apologize for using the word "alien".

[@davecunningham7291]

Lt Ryan Graves, in 2014 stated, "We were trying to figure out what the heck these things were. We were seeing them pretty much daily. We would go out there and they would be out there in the morning, they would be out there in the evening." Of course, the military would be very interested in the technology, so how are we to believe that they haven't rigged jets with imaging devices that can gather incredible images, video and other critical data.

[@2fix]

Um....... cuz they're ours???

[@davepurcell1318]

What I would love to see is a round table discussion with the Nimitz crew and Neil and allow Neil to ask every question he wants and allow all of us to ascertain wether human eye witness accounts are in fact a level of evidence that can’t be overlooked. The day before every major discovery in history there has been a large cohort of humans who have said no I will only believe it when I see it.

[@twonumber22]

I can't imagine that a few people could sit there and tell Neil "I totally saw something" and him accepting it as evidence for anything other than they believe they saw something.

[@chino8646]

​@@twonumber22yes, apparently doesn't matter how much experience these pilots have. "They think they saw something" Neil, Seth Shostak from SETI, asked about these cases and they're dismissing it as if these pilots are ALL hallucinating. Pilots, radar specialists, they must be on something cause a UFO? NO WAY!

[@chrismofer]

it makes no difference, people have been saying there's aliens and that they have been abducted for years. some of these people are trsined professionals. that doesn't make the lack of evidence any less real. there's ZERO evidence that there are alien ships flying around. it's un-rational bunk thinking and has been since caveman days.

[@Oreo-qn3lk]

This is a serious matter not to be laughed at. 😮 Talk to some of the astronauts that have been in space.

[@kevinsayes]

The app should start recording in a standardized camera mode as soon as it’s opened, and that’s all it does, with the option to opt in a feature that alerts you when someone nearby is recording something. Enjoyed the interview.

[@Acirno]

Totally agree, and a mode for people that know how to use a Cell Camera. Really, why is this not a thing already?

[@No1_Inpa_Ticular]

What the app should really do is pair older people with their grandchildren’s phone and send an alert to the nearest teenager to quickly and efficiently allow that kid to wirelessly use grandma and grandpa’s phone to record perfect footage.

[@elektrovert]

Excellent idea, and also record GPS position so the position of the UAP can be triangulated. Then it can be cross referenced with air traffic in the area or whatever.

[@andyman8507]

Im allso a sceptic but I think blaming the picturequality is wrong. A phoneapp wont solve anything. Problem is the cameras mounted on phones that run apps are far insufficient for this. I have an iphone 14 pro max and I get the same blurry result when shooting distant vehicles. My old nikon dslr camera though still does the job. Smartphones might be useable in a couple of years but not today🤔

[@marhensa]

@@andyman8507 THISS! it's seems people overestimate their capabilities of capturing far away objects (also fast moving objects) with their smartphone. also, not everyone in this planet have good smartphone, most of them have midrange smartphone with mediocre camera, that can't produce great images when capturing far away objects.

[@sidsimon5844]

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...' Isaac Asimov

[@athecheat]

❤

[@adientoledo2098]

This episode places UAPs in the proper perspective. As an amateur astronomer, I often get asked if I’ve seen a UFO. Years of looking up and I have never anything unidentifiable. It’s either a celestial object, bird, bat, insect, satellite (they are everywhere!), plane, ballon or helicopter.

[@IncendiaryMe]

Have you watched the congressional hearing? I think Neil and team are very dismissive and take the easy way out. I think they are all brilliant but just don’t want to deal with it

[@nick711ful]

Well, I have seen one so I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you will, too, one day.

[@zwerko]

@@IncendiaryMe I have. Not a single piece of evidence was presented during that hearing. Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all.

[@IncendiaryMe]

@@zwerko everything the pilots described has evidence behind it. Data from the planes..audio, radar, visual and other documents were later submitted classified and unclassified at the end of the hearing.

[@47f0]

My favorite UFO cartoon: A couple standing in their front yard, and the man points at the sky, saying, "Look Marge, a UFO! Run inside the house and grab the crappiest camera we have."

[@alansimonson8558]

1. I appreciate David taking this seriously instead of just chuckling and mocking. 2. David says he doesn’t have a clearance; perhaps the lead of the panel should have a clearance so they can look at all the data. 3. Regarding the question of why “every image is classified”, which isn’t true, when they are classified (I say this coming from 30 years in the Intelligence Community (IC)) it is most often “to protect sources and methods”. For example there is radar data, but the nation does not want our adversaries to know how well (or poorly) it works. There are documented cases of sources, in this case people, being identified as spies by adversaries and killed because a picture that leaked was traced to the source. 4. It’s more than a stigma. Even reporting an unknown flashing light can and has caused flight surgeons to ground pilots - not just a stigma, but a loss of livelihood. 5. I suggest starting with the “Tic Tac” incident. Happened in daylight and perfect flying conditions, was visually observed by six people (3 pilots, 3 WSOs, from three different aircraft with different perspectives), was seen on multiple sensor types (human visual, camera visual, IR, and radar) from multiple platforms (3 F-18s, USS Nimitz, USS Princeton an Aegis cruiser with one of the most sophisticated radars, and an E-2 Hawkeye), reportedly actively jammed one aircraft (technically an act of war), appeared to have insight into our systems (it moved to the CAP point of the operation), and exhibited no means of propulsion and moved at near hypersonic speed. (Again, I like David, but the lead needs a clearance and should see all the data. It also took place in 2004, 3 years before the first iPhone FYI. 6. The Gambler’s Fallacy: just because there have been many debunked incidents, does not imply this one is wrong and the laughter at the subject tells me that a biased view has been normalized. 7. I’m definitely not saying this is alien in origin, not at all. I am saying that scientific rigor and national security suggests this should be investigated seriously. Being a huge Carl Sagan fan Neil will probably know the quote better than my recollection, but didn’t Carl say we should investigate such things even if we think it is ludicrous (and it was in context of UFOs)? I am highly skeptical of 99% of UAPs, but there are enough odd events happening that warrant investigation - and please don’t tell me it’s swamp gas or ball lightening.

[@Capeau]

The triangle 'artifact' is called bokeh... Normally they are circular, but when the camera only has 3 aperture blades, you get a triange. But the point of that video was, I think, that there was something there... It wasnt just the sun, imho, because it was flashing on and off...

[@zwerko]

... yes, and it was flashing the FAA/SERA-mandated pattern as all aircraft are required to do. Funny thing, aliens are so kind to respect human flying regulations...

[@Capeau]

@@zwerko Exactly, but there was no record of a flight on that location during that time... So its either a rogue flight (or however they call that) or an experimental flight?

[@njones420]

@@Capeau or a drone, or an unregistered helicopter flight. Don't you find it odd there's no sound on the video...I wonder why? 🤔

[@Belznis]

About the quality pictures, I tried filming satellites, the auto focus at night just does not work that well. You can see the objects, but not really a quality movie even though you film them in 4k. Sometimes you get good ones, sometimes bad ones, but I too started thinking that the issue is mainly auto focus does not work at large distances with the mobile phones and smartphones and if you zoom in it gets even worse.

[@GizzyDillespee]

Those satellites are many miles up in the sky. Try using your phone to take a picture of a car that's many miles away, at night... you'll find out that a phone's camera isn't good enough, but even if it were, there's too much atmospheric turbulence. And then, if the car was moving, relative to you, as fast as the satellite is moving... You'd need an extremely fast shutter, and some very lucky aim. Maybe start with low flying airplanes during the day. Then maybe try one of those fancy Nikons, on a motorized tracking mount, and check out the moon!

[@ayol1011]

Casual photographer here..4k doesn't equal quality. The quality of picture is dependent on multitude of reasons one of which is size of the sensor. Bigger sensor = more light to get in. Secondly the size of the lens. To take pictures miles and miles away we need a long lens. For example telescope. 4K for more quality is a modern day snake oil.

[@marhensa]

everytime Neil complains about blurry photo I want him so bad to take his smartphone and take a DISTANT object at night, even better if that's object is moving. IT IS DIFFICULT. yes we have smartphones, but most of us don't have the flagship and have the midrange one. and not to mention the skill issue. not everyone have a smartphone with a gazilions gimbal to make it stable and not blurry.

[@imdiyu]

StarTalk has 2.45 Million subscribers. Somebody gotta develop that app, man.

[@sethjensen2291]

Did you listen to what they just said? . The whole world is moving past the obvious presence of Strange space ships in our atmosphere and these guys are hand waving about lense flares effects and giggling about being wrong on this topic for 50+ years . Lol Trumps Truth Social would be more useful than a StarTalk app

[@BjarkiHugrakkr]

Big agree

[@imdiyu]

@@betatest5789 there isn't

[@ra2186]

Be the change you want to see

[@lbthingsstuffmore9513]

Maybe a few of the space agencies will listen!❤

[@bobcesca9857]

Leaping from "unidentified thing" to space aliens, is like jumping from "cold breeze" to ghost hauntings. There are a million other explanations for these phenomenons before landing on aliens (or ghosts).

[@andyr.877]

As a person whom had the experience of seeing a very fast moving object similar to the one in the “tic-tac” video (I don’t have F16 cameras for of eyes), I find it disheartening that some respected scientists spend more time looking at camera glitches and all other potential issues with equipment rather than trying to take it slightly more serious when so many believable witnesses are reporting the same matter while nuking they’re on carriers in doing so.

[@PatrickShober]

They should totally look into using fireball/meteor observation networks! I might be biased because I'm a researcher who studies meteors/fireballs, but the cameras record the entire night sky covering continents. Also there are already fireball recording apps that exist that are essentially already doing what you are describing.

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@sethjensen2291]

These objects are primarily entering/exiting the atmosphere over the ocean. And they create no wind drag somehow, so no thermal radiation to pick up with cameras easily at sea level. This is the main reason these things are so interesting. They run colder than ambient air while flying... It would probably have to be a observation point from orbit to see the reflected sunlight.

[@njones420]

@@sethjensen2291 cool stories bro!

[@sethjensen2291]

@@njones420 I know right. Can you imagine being in a physics department when grant money starts flowing to study this? Crazy times

[@emiche711]

To me it makes sense that UAP’s are more likely to be unmanned drones/ robots. I can’t imagine they would choose to send a pilot and resources, light years away

[@athecheat]

Best hypothesis I've since since that hearing happened

[@boonboon9118]

…. Um, we go to moon, trying to go to Mars. James Webb is floating around out there searching far and wide. Seems we are trying to do what you stated. Weird.

[@emiche711]

@@boonboon9118 we have never sent anyone or anything through light years of travel. Sending humans to the moon and potentially to Mars, is a human feat that may seem primitive to an advanced being. There is a human factor of wanting to explore or having a sense of adventure/ wanting to put a flag on the surface etc. Alien life forms might find these activities mundane. They may not see the need in sending a being light years away and using up resources as well. That’s why I think the most sense would be that they send robots or drones which can record or maybe even report data back in real time.

[@MileyPit]

I swear whenever Chuck isn't there, a bit of me dies 😢😢. Especially for this topic.

[@Darkflowerchyld718]

Same. I really try with the other co-hosts but it's just not the same without Chuck.

[@ML-qj7eb]

I feel the other way. Chuck only adds stupidity and fart jokes every 2 minutes and that's annoying in a science podcast

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@athecheat]

And an alien is buying their drinks if they'll keep him secret

[@Philosophfromthewomb]

Russia is about to expose, The biggest hoax in history.... Show us Russia.... Show the US flag waving on the moon 🚀🌚🌬️🏳️‍🌈🇺🇲 Russia gonna rewrite history... US lie will be in the history books....

[@dancooper8551]

Took an online class taught by David. Learned a lot.

[@songOmatic]

"What is it?" "I don't know!" "OH MY GOD IT'S ALIENS!!!"

[@jack7240]

my favorite episode. StarTalk can you please interview Commander David Fravor?

[@charlyroussel]

I don’t think Fravor would be willing to come on the show after how dismissive and uninformed they talked about the hearing. Calling him and the others under oath a Complete waste of time comitee.

[@Souljourney22]

They are part of the cover up.

[@shadowfaxcrx5141]

There's a saying in Western medicine: "If you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras." It refers to the tendency of (usually new) doctors to see a set of symptoms that could either be some mundane ailment or a rare exotic disease, and immediately gravitate toward that rare illness as the diagnosis. It also applies to UFO/UAP matters. If you see something you can't identify that's maneuvering quickly, and you eliminate the possibility of it being image artifacts, etc, and know that something is actually there, but you tend to only see it in military operations areas, think spy drones, not aliens.

[@Pavel_Poluian]

This does not negate the simplicity of the fact: there are UFOs - such secret espionage equipment (flying saucers, triangles, cigars - with glowing zones, plasma propulsion panels). This technology was launched in the USA in the 40s of the twentieth century, now it is available in many places (in China, in the Russian Federation, in oligarchic and criminal structures). To cover up, the special services have been spreading various misinformation for 70 years, producing myths and fakes. It is necessary to know about it, these are elementary facts. Of course, these facts, as such, do not exclude - neither aliens, time travelers, guests from parallel spaces, otherworldly dark forces, etc. You can play ufologically with these UFOs, but believe me: espionage technology is in the first place in this phenomenon. The US Congress has already begun to declassify it little by little, but they are afraid of lawsuits and other claims of deceived ordinary people.😘😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😅😗😗😗😗😗

[@teIekid]

That saying is interesting because a lot of diseases go unnoticed for a long time because the doctors, over time, stop thinking about the zebras.

[@mark48430]

David Spergel and NASA should have a CGI expert on the committee. They are experts at being able to detect flaws in video evidence that would fool even scientists.

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@RC-nv6rc]

December 2021 in the uk i was outside in my garden(backyard) laying back on a deckchair staring up at the stars it was a really really clear night and its in london so i took my opportunity to admire it, out the corner of my eye i thought i saw a star move over the roof of the building out of view, i pulled my hood off sat up and it came back over the roof it was a yellow glowing triangle it then flew in a perfect equilateral triangle then a loop then a perfect zigzag then shot off across the sky behind me in a blurry flash with a glowing trail of light cos it moved so fast, i was physically shaken, it was being flown by somebody or something it was super super high in the sky not a plane a plabe cant go that high or turn at 60degree sharp angles or fly away that fast , was not a heli or drone either not an insect in the light not an illusion of any kind and im perfectly sober and sane, the way it moved it reminded me of the game that was on the old nokia mobile phones called snakes the light it was emitting was faintly trailing behind it was moving pretty fast considering how high up it seemed to be😩nobody can tell me i dodnt see something it couldve been a secret bomber or plane i dunno, it looked like it was looking for something on the ground or scanning something it definitely looked as if it was being flown/controlled by something/someone it was moving with intent, the way it flew was so damn crazy😩

[@GetawayFilms]

I think the main reason why we don't have one single clear photo of a UAP is because if we did, it would be identifiable...

[@anti-Russia-sigma]

Identifiable by a 2 D perspective ain’t identifiable enough!Get a higher D definition!😁

[@MossyMozart]

@GetawayFilms - Identifiable and debunked.

[@fosterseth]

A question I have for David is, science depends on repeatability and observability, ideally in a controlled environment. How do you approach a relatively rare event like UAP sitings? Are videos/photos of UAP 'good enough' to make certain claims, or will we require physical materials in the end. In what ways can we rely on science principles to study UAP?

[@aaronrandolph261]

agree

[@bigdopamine9343]

That is literally what his job is. He explained it at the beginning. There’s no way to observe UAPs in a controlled environment because if they were in a controlled environment we’d know what they are.

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@aleckg5291]

Gamma burst are also rare and we managed to understand it. It took a while but we did it through a systematic approach.

[@twonumber22]

UAP sightings are anything but rare.

[@IMVoxerus]

You guys avoided the question... what do scientists think the videos presented in the congressional hearings are? I know you won't say it is ... blank, but what do think it is most likely...? other?

[@Synathidy]

Scientists don't think they are anything yet. What evidence has been put forth to be evaluated as support of aliens? Or ANYTHING else, for that matter? Scientists don't jump to conclusions and immediately demand to fill in the blanks in their misunderstanding or lack of understanding because scientists are trained to recognize where the limits of human knowledge are and make it their career to outline those boundaries as transparently as possible. That means not jumping to ANY conclusions if data are insufficient. Unless you have some REALLY good evidence you're hiding, you can't blame them.

[@monarch7744]

Literally

[@Souljourney22]

They are part of the cover up.

[@dimitri1462]

looks like the US navy/military is incompetent 😮

[@djbb975]

​​@@njones420yeah, those gullible pilots and navy personnel. Those are exactly what simultaneous multiple navy ships captured on multiple sensors .. all can be easily explained .. and the 6 pilot eyeballs? All hallucinating the same thing. They must have snorted something in the coockpit or before they got on.. Cmon Navy men, we may not be expertly trained and may just be outside spectators, still that does not mean that we are wrong or that we are not better judges!

[@PurdyGood]

I love rewinding the video to hear the question again after an ad completely interrupts my focus gained after only 3 minutes since the last ad.

[@MossyMozart]

@bradleyc328 - Try a different ad blocker.

[@keithmcbride4408]

So 3 guys without the clearance are trying to discredit David who has the highest clearance?

[@jimmyzhao2673]

That's how the Chinese were able to spy with their balloons for so long, people were afraid to report the sightings because of the stigma.

[@bigdopamine9343]

No the pentagon tracked every one. Normal people didn’t report them because they couldn’t see them at 120,000.

[@HiddenPalm]

The UFO/UAP/Star Wars app would be cool if it can automatically make the camera settings ready for long-distance quality picture taking for the moon or planes and even when attached to a telescope (you can buy attachments for your phone to connect to your telescope), so it can double up as an astrophotography app. Which would be part of the tools to find UAPs. This could potentially make smartphone manufacturers like Samsung, Huawei, Apple, etc, to make phones specialized just for this.

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@jw3791]

I respect these guys but the idea that people are being tricked by camera artifacts; especially trained millitary personal who are very familiar with thier own equipment, - and then to chuckle about it, is extream hubris. They know so much that they don't have room for different ideas. It's a classic full cup scenario.

[@Shane7492]

Most scientists are as indoctrinated as religious fanatics, and they just don't realize it.

[@masterchief9291]

i want hard evidence and hard data. not "trust me bro, here's my story."

[@Shane7492]

@@masterchief9291 Most scientists are materialists, and yet there is no hard evidence or hard data that consciousness emerges from matter, so it's quite clear that hard evidence and hard data are not required to have certain beliefs about things. Ironically, there is more evidence for UAPs being extra terrestrial than there is of consciousness emerging from matter.

[@masterchief9291]

@@Shane7492 that is speculation, not evidence. Once again, I'm not gonna just take your word for it. People are making claims and treating them as fact with no evidence. Scientists don't do that. Also "UAP" is a broad spectrum, there's not just 1 type. Can't say "we don't understand it - therefore aliens" that's not how this works.

[@davidwilkie9551]

The way a good teacher operates, is to present the class with unanswered questions and answers to different circumstances that may compliment or contrast with the stage of development already achieved. A Teacher taking reasonable precautions for the safety of the students will present them with an overwhelming reaction to stop excessive destructive behaviour.., like playing with unstable politics of nukes and such.

[@jaysoneway]

A group of 4 recently graduated HS students in the mountains of Colorado very far up a trail from Meredelith (no cell service) is shown a lighshow from space at 2am that they could only see because they just put out the campfire. They seem to be stars moving at impossible speeds and then splitting up into patterns that aren't possible to replicate from that distance, directly over their campfire. All denied it at first, but as the stars started to move and come together repeatedly, everyone agreed that it's very incredible. Seemed to be purposefully targeted at their group of 4, nobody else in any direction would be able to see them, and the stars seemed to shoot thousands of miles toward just their campfire before dancing back up. They were very alone up the trail and very much alone for miles and miles. The stars would appear to actually be in our atmosphere or very close, then they would shoot towards the group of 4, 3 at a time, and dance backward again. Aliens must know that their group couldn't have been legitimate whisle blowers, their cameras could barely see stars, if it was aliens then they had to have known that. They showed them just enough for every one of them to really believe it was very much aliens, then they came together into what looked like one star and turned off the shimmering rainbow lights and once again disappeared, we all knew they were still up there. Cole frantically asked me to take a picture after I suggested that people have been claiming to see ufos in this area, and I told him right away that the camera wouldn't be able to see it.

[@carycaveney1109]

Nothing like having an open mind. Mr. Tyson, I loved your Cosmos series. In particular I empathized with the scientists who had theories about the universe but were persecuted for it. Do you see the ridicule of this topic as a similar behavior pattern in humans when someone comes up with an idea that isn't mainstream? I'm neither a UFO believer nor a skeptic, but enough people with good reputations have come forward with some interesting information. Should we just ridicule them?

[@DermMicro]

Science is testable and repeatable. This is why Neil cannot consider this subject Scientific. Eye witness recollections to major events are notoriously unreliable.

[@frankb8536]

my theory is that it will turn out that neil is an alien or being posses by aliens or maybe work for the aliens loll so we should take it easy with him lol

[@ebcsecurity9490]

Billions to train high IQ pilots, yet they can't identify a slow balloon?😂 Great argument

[@hivolume]

yeah and the balloons don't move in the wind!

[@njones420]

My favourite is the fact one of the pentagon videos is clearly just a duck/goose flying over the water... There is 100% no chance the military _intelligence_ couldn't identify this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpWrepucq712bpI

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@TreCenter]

​@njones420 it had no wings. The video shows the UAP in both the sky and close to the ocean and rotating so there goes your duck theory kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6ashXiBmZmmoKM

[@njones420]

@@TreCenter dude, I’ve linked the upscaled video in my comment … you can see it’s flapping it’s wings 😂, I’ve also given all the calculations that show it is less that 1 meter across. Feel free to debunk it using trigonometry.

[@srijunair]

Humans will never believe in UFO or UAP until one of the well known scientists directly experience it 😂

[@davsaa33]

and even then it's explained with the wire wrapping around the camera edit: I am beeing sarcastic lol

[@chris5240]

@@davsaa33 You keep posting this daft reasoning. Will you also wrap wire around radars?

[@leonienolan511]

like Nolan???

[@Monsterdamage12]

Until it's not covered up, if it really is!! 🤷

[@chris5240]

@@davsaa33 My bad. I should have realized it was a USP (unidentified sarcastic pronouncement)

[@msmallsman]

Um, one problem with the app. There is no way a large portion of normal citizens is going to give the government any additional access to their personal cell phones. This app is dead in the water

[@ccgooser]

"Why are images classified" - Isnt it interesting how the general public (myself included) likes to treat the word 'classified' as an analogy to 'conspiracy'? Im not sure where I learned to treat that term with such pessimism, but from now on i'll make an effort to think differently. I hope others do too. Thanks team!

[@jonathanryals9934]

Healthy skepticism at all times, not especially when the claims seem wild. A good persuader will never make wild claims.

[@OneLeggedDiver]

Yup. But amongst my family and friends my skepticism translates to being a Debbie downer haha

[@jonathanryals9934]

@OneLeggedDiver it is hard not to delve into cynicism when things seem like they should be ridiculously obvious... sometimes you have to be extra gentle to avoid blowing someone's mind, 😆

[@OneLeggedDiver]

exactly. I'm still learning how to do that@@jonathanryals9934

[@MossyMozart]

@@OneLeggedDiver - Sounds like you need a Puppy-Upper!

[@BookmansBlues]

You guys are overestimating the capability of a cellphone camera. Example, last summer, my house was overflown by a consumer drone. I immediately took out my phone, and took a photo. Despite having a clear and easy view of it with my eyes, on my phone it was only a handful of pixels. Phone cameras, are designed to get selfies, they post process , reduce noise, and smooth faces. The average person does not have the ability to capture sufficient image quality to resolve anything.

[@Darkwind28]

Very interesting conversation! It was great to hear from dr Spergel, especially on the topic of national safety, very important points. Just a little thing I've been meaning to say to dr Tyson in light of the recent events, and please let me preface it by saying 2 things: 1. I do not personally believe those reports to indicate aliens either. I'm not from the hype circle, although I sure am curious to know what these things are (or aren't)! 2. I've been a long-time fan, and I really appreciate what you do for the widely understood popular science in social media, kindling curiosity (reviving Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" series - brilliant!) - in my humble opinion it's one of the most honorable things we can do as scientists and science enthusiasts (cognitive sci bachelor here, hey :D). This is important moving forward in my comment below. What I've been meaning to say, and I hope I can express myself correctly, is that there seems to be a certain amount of what I've been struggling to avoid calling ridicule coming across in many of the recent discussions on this topic. That 'vibe' also present in Startalk's episodes on UAPs, while of course fitting the comedy-popsci format of the show and bringing some laughs, does several - I believe unintentional, but very unfortunate - things: It increases the gap between the seekers (people who want to try to understand something) and the explainers, that is figures like yourself, who have the specific knowledge of stuff we laymen might not even realize half of what we don't know about (courtesy of the Dunning-Kruger effect) solidly grounded in the scientific method. By that I mean it carries that unfortunate element of ostracism where it's not ok to have a different starting point of view on things, because one will be laughed at and the discussion will be over with a nil result, with no encouragement to go further and look deeper, which seems to go against what I've been taught by my alma mater. Again, this is not about who's right or wrong or whether aliens have or haven't visited us. I'm sure if you're anything like me, you'd LOVE to see or talk to aliens, you'd be absolutely extatic to find out that here, yes, demonstrably we are not alone in the universe, the whole thing is greater than we thought (or just AS great as we imagined!), share the technological and cultural achievements etc. I'm saying this to touch base, and to signal I'm on the same side of cautious skepticism when it comes to the recent situation. But: While there are many who just slap the alien label on stuff very willingly, come any shape of semi-credible testimony or second-hand witness material, to satisfy their (powerful, as we know) confirmation bias, there are people in that same community who genuinely, sincerely wish to see this thing under the magnifying glass of science, who look to scientific figures of authority such as yourself, and want to see there a willing conversationalist, who - as he was academically trained - looks at ALL the categories of the presented material (not to say 'evidence' yet), avoiding cherrypicking, patiently explaining all the bits and bobs of WHY something doesn't classify as proof, of what exactly would be required to make it so. Instead of repeating a catchphrase about fuzzy aliens for example, why not do a detailed look into what might have caused 2 navy officers to testify that an unknown shape appeared between their crafts? What possible phenomena could explain such an event (if it was an alien craft, what could it be doing there, and how?), or what could motivate people to conjure up such claims in high stress environments? I'm talking deep-dive! I know very intelligent people who happen to be part of that community, who want to explore these phenomena and see what there is to learn about them (and the US and other countries' government's politics regarding said reports). People with interest in - say - the military technology, and a good dose of common scientific knowledge, while not being scientists themselves. These people sadly turn away from your content, because of the ridicule I've mentioned, and the lack of multi-layered approach, whereby we would consider some "what if"s for example, or talk about what would need to happen for it to demonstrably BE aliens, and why it is so. I just think the discussion around this topic needs a bit of work in order to make it a more constructive environment - while again I don't think we're looking at aliens here, I just sincerely believe that those who happen to exercise that possible scenario in their minds shouldn't be thrown in the same bag as the conspiracy theorists who deny hard scientifc facts. I hope my little essay here will not cause any grief on either side of the fence, I just wanted to voice my opinion on the importance of how science communicators' input in such discussions might shape future discourse, how we should strive to remain kind and open to one another, and go through those interesting times as colleagues in curiosity, emphasizing the crucial aspects of good science and discovery, while maintaining a healthy discourse regime that encourages both sides to actively listen to one another, with respect, even when faced with extraordinary claims :) Keep looking up! Love the app idea btw

[@kensison]

Good read.. thanks!

[@ashifeqram4167]

You have written in details, what I was planning to write while watching Neil laughing hysterically. I had lots of respect to Neil for his contribution in science communication. I agree, most of the UAP are BS, but as a scientist he would have a sceptic view like he proposed. I saw in another video one lady scientist was citing the search of fish in one glass of water from ocean as example of life in universe. That should be the way of communicating ideas.

[@Richexperience1]

Agreed well put.

[@Darkwind28]

@@ashifeqram4167 I agree! Yeah, I think even Carl Sagan used that analogy sometime when referring to the topic, it would really be neat to see more involvement in that regard. Neil is still great in my book, let's just hope we can move past any differences and build upon what's been discussed :D

[@greenpenncil]

Thanks for saying all that you have. Although not a scientist or any type of degree holder, I agree. It's concerning to me and at the same time. I wonder how much longer it will take humanity, broadly, to listen to eachother. Thanks again.

[@cynthiaw.6037]

Dr. Tyson these young people are believing this stuff . We need your voice of reason with reputable sources. Thanks.

[@megaseth419]

I like how you completely ignore all of the data that's out there.

[@michaelccopelandsr7120]

Neil and Chuck for 2024!

[@jayfridayaq]

I was thinking the same thing a couple of weeks ago!

[@linyenchin6773]

As a black guy that's infected with chiness dna, I have to pount out that POC must never preside over the innovative species, be it the German, Scandinavian, South Korean or Japanese species. Other species are inferior/less innovative so it's ok for POC to presids over them.

[@acelion5]

What about the other two "Balloons" that couldn't be recovered???

[@dannyredcdsdunn6634]

I was standing on the top of the 2200 foot mountain near the Santa Cruz California coastline. it was a clear night and while watching the stars I locked in on a red dot traveling inland bound. Based on the fact that it appeared as just a red dot and the rate of travel my wild guess is that it was at about 80,000 feet up and traveling at about 3 times the pace of a satellite. What made it something other than some kind of whatever...LOL is that, while I was staring straight at it, the one red dot split into 2 red dots and the two dots hung sharp 90 turns away from each other with one heading up the coast line and the other heading down the coast line. I tracked them until they faded away in a crystal clear sky.

[@darrelm47]

Video of that would be awesome. I guess no one had a phone with them

[@oeendrila]

I’ve seen this too

[@darkd5ds]

I cant watch this without chuck

[@robweeks1453]

Are we all forgetting that there has been a reporting center for UAP's since 1974 named NUFORC :)

[@fawlco112752]

There is a saying that if we both agree, we're both wrong. Amazing.

[@bigman4407]

I don't agree with your comment.

[@judelarkin2883]

What I think is interesting, as a kid I saw these believe it or not shows on cable that had these guys that claimed to be WWII era pilots that saw these metal/translucent spheres that seemed to be able to move any direction at any speed. As a kid I was a little skeptical. As an adult I didn’t think about it much but being low budget cable TV in the 90, I would write it off as a complete fabrication. But now, the physics defying, metallic/translucent spheres are back.

[@MallGrabtheClown]

We don't try to teach english to cockroaches because we think they couldn't possibly have the capacity... To think any advanced life form would try to contact us is laughable. At best they are fascinated by the depth of our hubris.

[@Sammasambuddha]

My dog contacts me every morning if I don't walk him. Don't ask how! 😂

[@MallGrabtheClown]

@@Sammasambuddha An hour before feeding time my mutts begin the ritual. I used to think they had bad clocks... then I realized they actually believe it takes an hour for this dumb human to understand what they're F-ing saying...

[@athecheat]

If we're cockroaches to them, they'd have no way of interpreting our actions and relating it to complicated thoughts on their level.

[@MallGrabtheClown]

@@athecheat my exact point

[@johnwagner606]

The government literally said they found ET ships, and bodies, and these guys are like, yeah, whatever, I need more data. Seriously!? They didn't even address the data presented!!

[@MichaelWalker-wu2pq]

The government has NOT stated that at all.

[@Souljourney22]

Exactly! They are part of the cover up.

[@Souljourney22]

​@@MichaelWalker-wu2pqdon't need government evidence is already out there.

[@joekenorer]

Corridor Digital has taught me you can't trust UAP images and video from the public anymore.

[@RonaldSheely]

A commercial pilot, a military pilot, and a scientist walk into a bar….

[@srijunair]

If we ever decide to travel in universe we may send machines with AI instead of going by ourselves

[@Sammasambuddha]

Does this apply to my job too?

[@jetgdvsdfgd]

We already have done that

[@bigdopamine9343]

@@jetgdvsdfgdwe have not. I assume you’re talking about the mars rovers. These are remotely controlled.

[@michael-4k4000]

You need Scientology baby!

[@Philosophfromthewomb]

Russia is about to expose, The biggest hoax in history.... Show us Russia.... Show the US flag waving on the moon 🚀🌚🌬️🏳️‍🌈🇺🇲 Russia gonna rewrite history... US lie will be in the history books....

[@tims8603]

Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena It's used because it covers all forms of unknown sightings.

[@Uniblab9000]

That's absurdly broad for a scientific study.

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@world_still_spins]

​@@Uniblab9000 Flying and objects in the classic sense apparently are not broad enough terms to accurately describe hovering, levitating, rapid acceleration, swamp gas, plasma, lightening orbs, terrestrials and non terrestrials and extra terrestrials (extra how?), unknown unknowns, and weather balloons (for some reason). But the term UFO (unidentified flying object) is easier to understand, for most people including myself. UAP doesn't have the same ease of speech.

[@mooncoos]

Have been here all along. ✨✌️✨

[@Almstfam]

The flashing light explanation from david is so simple but so rational at the same time, we need more people like him in society.

[@LustfuII]

Hello Dr.Tyson, I would like to say that really appreciate the fact you have a new co-host. Nothing Personal against the last guy, I just felt as though he was clueless in whatever subject you were talking about more often times than not. I appreciate having a collective group of geniuses explain these complex and pertinent topics as opposed to 2 geniuses and a comedian. All around great episode none the less, I appreciate the vast sea of information that resigns in this video. Please continue this structure of interviewing

[@megaseth419]

That's exactly what this new clown did though. He attempted to be a comedian and someone who can read.

[@samnoble6291]

Chuck was the best

[@RAZORREVOLUTION1]

Spergel's situation with regards to his committee analysing unclassified data is analogous to him sampling a cup of water from the ocean and saying, yep, there's no fish, ergo there are no fish in the ocean. 😂

[@jamesbuckley8917]

Spergel is trying to reduce the stigma and mocking, and Pluto killer Tyson sets up the whole interview in mocking way, complete with a comedian co-host.

[@Uniblab9000]

That's his schtick. I see it as a concession to popular tastes. Personally, I'd enjoy him a lot more without it.

[@bigdopamine9343]

There is neither any evidence aliens exist or have ever visited earth. And the stories being told are more what a Star Trek fan would dream up than anything grounded in physics and logic. So until there is evidence, serious scientists are going to dismiss claims of alien visitation as nonsense.

[@yallofthemates6688]

It’s also nice to have a pause when talking about such heavy and complicated subject matter so I find the humor a breath of fresh air in conversation like these super interesting episodes

[@athecheat]

Pluto still sitting there love. She exists, just maybe not as the heavenly body of some people's fantasies

[@PyrusFlameborn]

​@@athecheatPluto: from the least of the planets to the King of the dwarf-planets!

[@dsanurag8148]

Sir i just watched interstellar and i got a doubt. In the movie romilly stays on the space ship and cooper goes to the planet and when cooper returns in 3 hours and romilly says he waited for 23 years. My doubt is suppose cooper and romilly are talking on facetime the whole time while cooper is on the planet then how it will be like? . Will cooper talk for 1 hour and romilly will feel that he has been talking for 7 years . Sir plz reply.

[@nicko7238]

If that were to happen, one person would see & hear the other as in “fast forward”, while on the other end of the line it would look & sound like in “slow motion” 🤗

[@thingonathinginathing]

David Grusch for President 👽 🇺🇸

[@mattfirman3877]

I agree with them 100 percent, except for one thing that has me completely at a loss. There’s at least 5 famous cases where highly credible professionals who gained nothing claimed they personally witnessed non human intelligence and talked to them. And some of those cases involved hundreds of people witnessing it at the same time. Now, you can explain the one on one cases and chalk it up to the person just losing their minds. But the cases with hundreds of people. ..I just don't know how it's possible for all those people to hallucinate the same exact thing at the exact same time and only for a moment and then living the rest of their lives normally. How does that happen?

[@vieome101]

Hello Dr In this rapidly evolving age of technology, Dr. Tyson, you stand as a fascinating paradox, and I don't mean this as an affront. It's an undeniable truth. In our present world, there's a single question that holds paramount importance: are we existing within a simulation? The veracity of all your equations, all your facts, they could potentially crumble if this reality is, indeed, simulated. The concept of simulation theory was once easy to dismiss, but the rise of advanced AI in this era has thrown a new light on it. Every technological advancement reshapes the way humans perceive and narrate their world. You've been focusing on the intricacies, the fragments of this grand puzzle, while perhaps missing the essence of the whole mechanism. Consider this analogy: Imagine a handful of your followers read and appreciate my comment. This comment gains significance, it takes root in the minds of people. Now, picture someone copying this comment and sharing it on another platform, where it goes viral. What goes viral may vary, but let's assume this comment aligns with the majority's viewpoint. If it does go viral, it suddenly forms a direct conduit to you. Reciting facts and presuming oneself to be an expert isn't fundamentally different from being able to hotwire a car and calling oneself an engineer. The point is, we must expand our perspective beyond fragments and embrace the intricate interplay of the whole system.

[@danybloke1]

Maybe they all inhaled the swamp gas?

[@quellenathanar]

@@vieome101 Even if we are living in a "simulation", we still exist in reality. Its just that reality is very different than we think. There is a theory out there that presumes us to exist in a 2D reality projecting as 3d holograms. That sounds a bit like sim theory.

[@twonumber22]

What hundreds of people?

[@Kamamura2]

Credible professionals once most seriously counted how many angels can fit on the tip of a needle. ;-)

[@ShawnRavenfire]

36:48 There is a third possibility. They don't care if they're seen or not. Think about a scientist studying an ant hill. He's not going to concern himself with what the ants think about the scientist.

[@scottpayne4756]

Got a few points on this episode, loved the whole thing. However, the best way to find a needle in a haystack is not make a better and better AI, just use a friggin magnet. Also, it doesnt matter how good the cameras in our phones get, the moment someone sees something in the sky that mystifies them they get excited, blood pressure rises, heart rate increases, breath rate increases, then they pull out their phone and hold it at arms length (sort of on instinct) to get the camera closer to it, and try to take a picture of what they see…add all of that up, plus the motion input of pushing the side button or touching the screen to capture an image…ya neva gonna get any good shots of anything. You got ground-based telescopes bolted to the Earth itself, Neil. You got bias. Cant ask everyone to keep there phones on tripods all the time with remote shutter control. Related, the cameras used on airplanes and fighter jets are…moving quite fast on their own. ‘Nuff said. Next, the famous quote by A.C.C. laid bare the falseness of magic. The moment he put those words to page gave a new perspective, that not understanding how the trick works, does not mean we cannot discover the underlying physics of the trick. Finally, and I will leave you with this suggestion, get Gary Sinise and Tom Hanks together with your comedic-co-hosts and talk with those guys about their interest in science. 🖖

[@elektrovert]

I few years back I adopted a policy of not taking out my camera when interesting stuff happens, just enjoy the ride. Because I kept missing short natural events (like encounters with unusual animals) fumbling for my phone. There's a good chance I'm not even going to attempt to record a UFO if I see one, not unless it hangs around for a good while.

[@a9fc]

You talk about bias and yet your solution that you obviously think is obvious and smart is that your solution has a flawed bias... you've assumed the needle is ferrous. Which is a great example of the very problem within the UFO believing community right now - forcing expected outcomes. Using your own example, you've already gone into the problem expecting a ferrous needle and when you pick up other items that could be ferrous (say, rusted fragment of a car's door, for example), you automatically assume that to be the needle you're looking for.

[@47f0]

My phone takes pretty good portraits, decent landscapes and fair interior photographs, but... when I try to capture a rocket launch (I live in Central Florida), or an interesting aircraft, it's not so great. I tried putting my settings on manual and playing with them, but the results have been pretty disappointing.

[@MrSHWP1]

The men in this interview would'nt even believe all of it when a UFO landed right on top of them and took them some place. These men will NEVER be convinced, no matter what HARD evidence or outlandish material or photo/video you show them. They will keep saying that it's faked or not up to the standard of there Holy Science. So don't bother trying to convince them.

[@jgbeck1000]

@@a9fc Well said! I was about to compose a reply to say the same thing: what if the needle isn't ferromagnetic? What if the haystack is? What if the haystack 'shields' the needle from the magnetic field? This is a very good example of why it is so hard to look for SETI - all of our attempts are based on certain assumptions. We have no idea how good those assumptions are.

[@NewYorkAnthony]

They should do a video about Extraterrestrial Disclosure!

[@Souljourney22]

They can't! Still in cover up mode.

[@NewYorkAnthony]

@@Souljourney22 Congress made it official!

[@Souljourney22]

@@NewYorkAnthony nothing has been officially disclosed from them. Yes favor,graves, and grusch did but DoD and private contractors are still tight lipped. I saw the amendment by Schumer but how long will it take to declassify? 🎯

[@eosasakura]

"WHAT??? HD cameras exists?" everyone in a underground base

[@stuartellis2]

“The complete waste of time committee”. Yeah….so funny I forgot to laugh.

[@Souljourney22]

Part of the cover up!

[@stuartellis2]

@@Souljourney22 I suppose what they were inferring is that testimony under oath doesn’t count for anything at all.

[@Souljourney22]

@@stuartellis2 still doesn't change the fact there are other beings here. I'm sure Mr grusch didn't do this just for fun or isn't a useful idiot. We have never been alone.

[@usuariocelular8065]

I CANT WAIT FOR THE ALIENS TO PROVE NEIL WRONG.

[@nicko7238]

I’m sure he would love that

[@Fluffysweep]

In the "Tictac" incident, the audio of the incident suggests that theses two very, very experienced pilots were visually seeing this object and were desperately trying to get it on tracking.... There's a huge sigh of relief from the two of them when this is achieved. Also jet-fighter tracking video is NOT designed to video objects doing speeds of between 5 & 10k and then turning at right angles, (if the pilots and ground control are correct) so no wonder the video is fuzzy.

[@bigdopamine9343]

It was a sensor artifact. The fact that the two guys pulling Gs on amphetamines at night think they saw something on a video screen is not convincing. The fact that if the tic tac was a physical object it would be breaking several laws of physics without any disturbance to the environment around it is also disqualifying.

[@Fluffysweep]

@bigdopamine9343 ok , this incident happened during the daytime and not only that, it was a wide scale training exercise with other air service men..? So I'm not getting your point..?

[@bigdopamine9343]

@@Fluffysweep doesn’t matter, they are unreliable narrators and the video is useless. Again if it was maneuvering in the way they said then air friction would have caused a massive explosion. There’s no reason to think it was a physical object.

[@njones420]

@@bigdopamine9343 more than that, if we’re talking about the same video, you can see the “artefact” rotates in exact proportion to the rotation of the camera-gimbal. It’s 100% just flare/reflection off the Perspex dome over the camera.

[@EodaOso]

20:15. ''I have no clearance" why is this man in charge?

[@Souljourney22]

Put in place just like Kirkpatrick.

[@shankarsubramaniam1779]

They would land in white house ? To handshake with American President 😂😂

[@EodaOso]

I love how they tell us not to make assumptions, as they make assumptions.

[@ericf1135]

Learn to science

[@UncleBuZ]

🤡

[@Souljourney22]

Part of the cover up, very easy to tell.

[@Mr-S.p.o.c.k]

If it's so easy, then explain. @@Souljourney22

[@Mr-S.p.o.c.k]

You're assuming you understand what is being discussed. The irony... are you really that... slow?

[@Jaskol_Wazon]

I sort of do not appreciate the kinda LOL attitude towards this. UAPs buhaha, wtf lol. It's not very scientific. I am in fact tired of people making fun of it and then pretending to make a straight face and say "yeah, sure, nevermind, we're really looking into this stuf (but omg lol)." This serves against you, because it shows bias. You say "I don't know what it is, let's investigate it, but oh this is so laughable", my god joke of a lifetime sort of stuff. It's your reaction at the same time. I am not accepting UFOs reports as they are, mostly a mess, but investigating ANY phenomenon means just that -we're investigating. Not making giggles because you know what. That is not your style. You're constantly trying to make fun of Spergel's task, consciously or not. Also, drop the comedy stuff already, wherever this comes from. It doesn't make your shows "lighter" or more "approacheable" or "stylish" or WHATEVER. I love smart comedians and their standups, but their 'input' here is more of a hindrance, and interference. I do not want to listen to scientists talking science stuff only to be intermingled with nonsense jokes. Where the F does it come from??? Half of your scientist guests look embarrased, being constantly interrupted by "jokers" (however cute and smart they are). Just let it go or create a separate chan for "scinece" jokes so you can have at it all the way you want.

[@rondavidson8673]

Good show and nice to see the UAP subject not completely ridiculed, when they say no HD photos, everyone seems to forget the Mosul orb which was even shown at the last NASA report, unless they think that comes under the special drone technology, I'd like to get me one of them if they are a drone, it has no wings, means of propulsion, noise etc etc wow, I don't know but a drone that looks and moves like that,who knows but maybe one day we will know, just hope I'm around to see it and the reaction of these guys if uaps are from somewhere else

[@bigdopamine9343]

Maybe it was lighter than air like a balloon. the quality isn’t that good.

[@whitejosh444]

Kinda of sad that they said the hearing was a waste of time

[@carycaveney1109]

Some of the images we've seen are grainy because we are looking at forward looking infrared camera footage.

[@glasxstar]

100% disagree with being afraid to share sensitive photos. most people would post them for attention

[@glennsmooth]

Neil still doesn’t know what UAP stands for 😂

[@jasonfreese2654]

And watching the navy pilots on radar, it was a fuzzy screen they don't know what they really saw😅 Sometimes I think this crap ain't no different then trying to find big foot lol

[@sethjensen2291]

@@jasonfreese2654 wtf are you talking about lol?? It was a flying object pilots intercepted based on coordinates from multiple simultaneous radar tracks from ships in the carrier fleet. And the infrared footage was showing the flying object at a lower temperature than the water. Birds, balloons, and aircraft don't do that. The single clip is more compelling than any Bigfoot evidence I've ever heard of. But there's mountains more contextual evidence and reports just from that single day.

[@My-Pal-Hal]

Actually it's either or at this point. At "Intelligence.GOV" and others. It's still Aerial. So he's not wrong. ... google it , i did

[@My-Pal-Hal]

... now wipe that smile off your face 😏

[@stephenfrench3888]

What does it stand for ?

[@LithaMoonSong]

So, some of the pilots saw with their own eyes, the UAPs, they were not only on the instruments. This podcast is not factual so not watchable.

[@stephenwickert1950]

Exactly

[@aceboogie_77]

💯

[@moonshoes11]

What did they see, and how do you know?

[@njones420]

yep, and some people see Elvis on the moon, Jesus in their toast, the ghost of Henry the VIII using their toilet ... are you going to believe them all?

[@Souljourney22]

Paid actor. Funny most can't see through the cover up.

[@matthewnolen2104]

What I saw with my own eyes was fantastic. If our government does not have better footage of it, they are incompetent. The reason they're not showing THAT footage is because it is frightening. I used to think of NDT as a human ambassador, but this conversation was insulting. You actually laughed and scoffed at some of these questions, and I know that's not going to age well.

[@sethjensen2291]

The desperate denial and coping mechanisms we are witnessing here is not just Neil's selective blindness. It's part of a real phenomenon. Imagine dedicating your life to science, and slowly realizing you've been looking through a telescope, right past the most mind bending discovery of humanity, all because the government told you noticing was not allowed. It must be like a nightmare during a fever and a bad acid trip. I have far more pitty for these fools than I do frustration. ..

[@militech9]

That's great, now please provide a reasonable explanation to what my father in law saw along with another coworker: the setting is near the Merced River at Gallo Winery around 4am while taking a smoke (tobacco) break in the grape fields adjacent to to the river. I'll be brief. Bright light in the sky begins to approach them. Comes within 100ft of them. It lands in the river. They are looking directly at it. It's a metalic disk with an array of windows around the circumference. They eminate light from within but cannot see anyone or any feature inside. Craft then lifts above the trees and shoots off completely silent at all times. The tree branches sway. They feel a breeze reach them and they heard a "swoosh" as it left. There was a vapor trail left behind that was lingering and still slightly visible as the dawn broke. What could that have been?

[@MossyMozart]

"Waste of Time Committee" - too true!