Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: AEC Mk II, Pt 2

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The Chieftain

The Chieftain

4 ай бұрын

Continuing the tour of this British-built armoured car, now focusing on the interior. This example is located in Bastogne Barracks, and is part of the Belgian military's War Heritage Institute collection.
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@baronvandragon2427
@baronvandragon2427 4 ай бұрын
That's the fastest I've ever seen Chieftain move. Hopefully, his escape vector led to a successful withdrawal under fire.
@whatnow9653
@whatnow9653 4 ай бұрын
He forgot to pop smoke.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 4 ай бұрын
He's applying the " don't get hit" layer in the survivability onion🤣.
@opfinderkn
@opfinderkn 4 ай бұрын
Dam I was not reday for that last joke, that was funny 😂
@-r-495
@-r-495 3 ай бұрын
took cover behind a crate of premium Belgian beer and chocolates, all fine
@whatnow9653
@whatnow9653 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully he knows how to make full use of that cover. ​@@-r-495
@T.efpunkt
@T.efpunkt 4 ай бұрын
"If you're interested in how it sounds..." *starts playing music* 😂😂
@chriscamfield7610
@chriscamfield7610 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I would have preferred to JUST HEAR THE ENGINE tyvm
@comradealexie
@comradealexie 4 ай бұрын
It's crazy how compact the IS-3 is, the rear deck looks similar height to the driver in the AEC
@treles
@treles 4 ай бұрын
Theres an AEC at Bovington and it never ceases to amaze me how tall the thing is, much bigger than you'd expect, so that willamplify the effect. something big you expect to be small next to something small you expect to be big.
@Danspy501st
@Danspy501st 4 ай бұрын
I was looking at it when AEC driving up to be beside it and thought "What kind of TD is that? Almost looks like the T28 with out the extra tracks" Then it got closer I noticed the turret and thought "They have an IS-3?!"
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 4 ай бұрын
I've seen this (?) IS-3 when it was still on display in the Royal Belgian Military Museum in Brussels. They had a StuG III and a Comet close to it. It is very compact indeed. Without checking references, I'd say it is more compact than a Leopard 1. Because I've worked on Leo 1, I also say that IS-3 might be very cramped inside. I can tell you that a T-72 looks tiny next to a Leopard.
@alm5992
@alm5992 4 ай бұрын
Having no turret basket saves a LOT of space in height.
@Taurevanime
@Taurevanime 4 ай бұрын
AEC is a good allegory for Chiftain. Tall, reliable, gives a good punch, a scout, continued on to serve a little longer in other countries after being retired in the country of origin. And maybe a little ugly.
@biggerdickus
@biggerdickus 4 ай бұрын
How dare you insult my hottie?
@gwilymmorgan5115
@gwilymmorgan5115 4 ай бұрын
The Chieftain is brilliant.
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 4 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻
@eagle_and_the_dragon
@eagle_and_the_dragon Ай бұрын
That multi-fuel engine was a bit dodgy though.
@MB0016
@MB0016 4 ай бұрын
In regards to the 75mm fitting, I believe it was the QF 75 mm, so was made by boring out the 6-pounder so shouldn't take up much more if any space.
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 4 ай бұрын
Not bored out. New production changed to the 75mm barrel and matching chamber. All QF 75mm guns were new made as such.
@jomoma8576
@jomoma8576 4 ай бұрын
​@@johnfisk811yes they were new built machined from the the same forgings as the 6lber the breach blocks were identical barrels & presumably recoil cylinders were different see the crusader episode it was a 6lber but it's block was marked 75mm
@osmacar5331
@osmacar5331 4 ай бұрын
i think that was the OQF that was that one, but i could be wrong. i know british gun performance more than the names.
@DaremoKamen
@DaremoKamen 4 ай бұрын
According to what I read, Royal Ordnance was in the process of developing a completely new 75mm that used US shells but a new cartridge case and someone noticed that the complete US 75mm cartridge was very close in base diameter and overall length to the 6 pounder cartridge. So they could greatly speed up development and manufacture and concentrate development resources into improvements and follow ups to the 17 pounder.
@dougstubbs9637
@dougstubbs9637 4 ай бұрын
The AEC armoured car was based on the Matador truck, extremely popular, having an unbelievable post war usefulness in civvie street. AEC showed some innovations, laying the donk on it’s side to lower the profile, capable of continuing upgrades, as you note. The most thing was that AEC were approached to develop the new cruiser tank, with the innovative upside down Horseman suspension system, wide turret ring, 17 pdr…..The best, very best design ever….the Centurion.
@peternicol3439
@peternicol3439 4 ай бұрын
The Chieftani's new Armoured Vehicle Test "Oh bugger I've pissed off the Restorer!"
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 4 ай бұрын
The RAC used three rifle calibre rounds during WW2: .303, 7.92x57mm & .30-06. The Churchill NA75 used all three: A BESA in the hull, a co-axial Browning, and a Bren.
@denisrobertmay875
@denisrobertmay875 4 ай бұрын
And the crew would have side arms ( normally a pistol, some sub machine guns).
@fishingthelist4017
@fishingthelist4017 4 ай бұрын
Logistics!
@denisrobertmay875
@denisrobertmay875 4 ай бұрын
@@fishingthelist4017 more adaptability and availability. With longer supply lines the US would not transport below standard equipment. With proximity to manufacturing the British could adapt and update superseded material. Outdated aircraft became trainers, transport and towing aircraft. Obselete tanks were repurposed as SP guns, "Kangaroos", Bridgelayers and Engineer/Recovery Vehicles. Shadow manufacturing took place on four continents(including in the US). Munitions were much the same guaranteeing availability. All units had a variety of weapons. Most (larger) weapons required different types of ammunition of the same calibre so it was a matter of distribution rather than logistics. A single tank had the same requirement as a troop, a troop the same as a Squadron, a Squadron a Battalion, a Battalion a Division. Each unit a wider range of requirements for specific equipment.
@PsihoKekec
@PsihoKekec 4 ай бұрын
Yugoslavian partisans also got 24 AEC Mk II that served in the 1st Armored brigade. Since the brigade was armed with Stuart tanks, the AEC armored cars were used as a sort of self propelled guns directly attached to tank companies, even after introduction of Stuart PAK.
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps 4 or 5 frantic beeps for "Oh bugger, the car is on fire!"
@Ghostmaxi1337
@Ghostmaxi1337 4 ай бұрын
"Even if it is a little Ugly" /Starts Running/ XD
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 4 ай бұрын
I like it how the chief restorer agreed to go with the gag at the end of the video.
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 4 ай бұрын
This is barely related, but I take joy in thinking that under old British nomenclature a 20mm autocannon could have been QF 1/4pdr
@PhantomTangeant
@PhantomTangeant 4 ай бұрын
That's excellent haha
@AgentB7
@AgentB7 4 ай бұрын
Quarter pounder... Something Something McDonald's.
@iatsd
@iatsd 4 ай бұрын
Except we know what they called their various autocannon and it wasn't that. :)
@denisrobertmay875
@denisrobertmay875 4 ай бұрын
The British kept the calibre used by the designers; 20mm-Hispano Suiza (Spain/France), Oerlikon (Swiss), Polsten (Poland/UK). 40mm-Bofors (Sweden). 75mm-(US originally French "75"also 105mm and 155mm)
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 4 ай бұрын
@@AgentB7 It's a Scottish gun ! The McDonald 1/4pdr pom-pom.
@captianmorgan7627
@captianmorgan7627 4 ай бұрын
'If you're curious what it sounds like running we can arrange that.' Immediately turns up the music to interfere with the sound of the engine.......
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 4 ай бұрын
Cool to see the IS-3 out and about!
@alanbrown5593
@alanbrown5593 4 ай бұрын
Never forget, your sacrifice is our gain. Thank you, as always for an informative video.
@robingray1302
@robingray1302 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating as always, growing up in the 1960s I remember the remains of one of those on an Army firing range up the Pentland Hills just south of Edinburgh !!!!
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 4 ай бұрын
That ending😂😂😂 thanks Chieftain
@christhorpejunction8982
@christhorpejunction8982 4 ай бұрын
The AEC was one of the vehicles that could mount Tabby, the British IR system.
@bebo4807
@bebo4807 4 ай бұрын
I tried mounting a tabby once. It didn’t really like it.
@christhorpejunction8982
@christhorpejunction8982 4 ай бұрын
@@bebo4807 well….I left it open and you went there, both barrels. 👍🏻
@RamonInNZ
@RamonInNZ 4 ай бұрын
It sounds like the AEC bus that my cousin maintained in New Zealand
@olpaint71
@olpaint71 4 ай бұрын
"If you're curious what the diesel sounds like, we can arrange that." Cue music overlay to obscure the sound. :) Otherwise, good video.
@tanfosbery1153
@tanfosbery1153 4 ай бұрын
Hadn't realised the British gave that Diesel engine a musical soundtrack when running
@evh1734
@evh1734 4 ай бұрын
Cute little IS-3 cameo at the end there.
@MetalRodent
@MetalRodent 4 ай бұрын
Good vid as ever. Minor comment regarding the Bren placement, it's actually not wrong - if you look up pictures of British tanks in the war it's not that uncommon to see them with a Bren simply mounted on top of the turret like it is here. No good for AA defence like that obviously but it gives the commander a bit of firepower.
@leighrate
@leighrate 4 ай бұрын
Yeh, and probably a STEN gun or two as well. Your more concerned about some Hitlerjugen with a panzerfaust.
@exploatores
@exploatores 4 ай бұрын
Is the Bren usefull for AA. It feels good doing something. but you are not going to hit anything important. if you for some strange reason do. you are not going to destroy that. in a way that. it´s going to stop it. do harm to you.
@Badbunny666
@Badbunny666 4 ай бұрын
@@exploatores I believe there were free standing tripods for the Bren specifically for AA use, so I think it was definitely something the Bren gun was used for. As you say it wouldn’t have been particularly destructive or accurate but when combined with other Brens in the troop/squadron, might have put enough rounds in the air to have a discouraging effect.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 4 ай бұрын
@@Badbunny666 yes you're right, they did exist - the AA mounts - as a part of the SF tripod kit, and I trained with one once. Effectiveness - more complex, but gives the enemy reasons not to loiter too long or too close and gives the troops a feeling they are fighting back. Probably minimal, but if a rear echelon soldier burnt off a 100 rounds of .303 and got some hits on an expensive plane, it's a good trade off?
@StacheMan26
@StacheMan26 4 ай бұрын
Would the 75mm gun used in the AEC Mk III not be the British 75, which was basically just bored out 6-pounder and thus of the same external dimensions? My understanding is that even the cartridges were only very slightly larger in the dimensions that matter for stowage, so there's no reason to lose a man for ammo either.
@jrdougan
@jrdougan 4 ай бұрын
At least according to Wikipedia, it indeed was the Ordnance QF 75 mm in the Mk III. , with a 4 man crew.
@jakublulek3261
@jakublulek3261 4 ай бұрын
Maybe a bit redundant comment, but here we go: BESA was 7,92 mm because the Czechoslovakian army used 7,92 mm Mauser as their standard service cartridge, and British needed reliable, belt-fed machine guns for their tanks quickly, so they bought the licence to make BESA (or vz. 37/ZB 58) in Britain. Yes, there was a .303 version but for some reason it was never made standard (apparently it was decided tooling costs would be too high and would took too much time to retool). That is why this calibre discrepancy (but as Chieftain pointed out, Tank Corps weren't bothered about it, mainly because their ammo supply was separate from the army anyway).
@exharkhun5605
@exharkhun5605 4 ай бұрын
It's funny that they British were actually very good at evaluating the ergonomics of other peoples' equipment. Their testing establishment produced very common-sense and in depth reports comparing the equipment in question to British doctrine and practices. If it were simple bias that would be one thing but they're actually really professional. And then they produce things like this where you need 3 hands to fire the gun, or the Cromwell drivers hatches where you need to fold your spine in 3 directions to get out or the 17 pounder armed M10 where you have to reach somewhere under the gun to rotate the turret. I know all the excuses but it almost feels schizophrenic.
@michaelbevan3285
@michaelbevan3285 4 ай бұрын
that's because the test house has no skin in the production game and were encouraged to be entirely truthful. If the factory chose not to listen to them, then the end user got a bit of junk to work with and they often ended up with the required mods not appearing until the Mark 2, 3 or 4 of something.
@jrdougan
@jrdougan 4 ай бұрын
The British were generally aware of deficiencies in ergonomics. Since there was a war on and they had no time after Dunkirk to waste on making things more than barely functional it often got pushed aside. Also, their factories were getting bombed, which made production changes hard. The pre-war designs suffered from bad budgeting and being designed to bad doctrine. The political end of the war office would rather have bought 10 light tanks, instead of the 5 heavier tanks they actually needed. David Fletcher writes well about it in *The Great Tank Scandal*.
@iatsd
@iatsd 4 ай бұрын
It was a multi facetted problem which can mostly be sumed up as this: necessity. The British switched to a war economy almost instantly at the start of WW2. That meant distributed production across a wide range of companies that had wildly variable capabilities and available tooling. Designs had to be able to be produced across any of those. A good example of this is the Comet where the initial designs had a sloped front glacis, but this had to be changed to accomodate the engineering capabilities of the subcontractors. During the design approval process it was felt that the ~3 months or so it would take those subcontractors to get up to speed/tooling on building a sloped front glacis was not worth the delay, so it got the stepped design they'd been using since the A10. You see the same kind of thing happening with the Germans when they switched to a war economy in 1943. Things like the Jgdpz IV suddenly get a 3rd "simplified" version for production because the new subcontractors coming into the production cycle in 1944 can't handle the "proper" design and production out the door *now* was more important than waiting for them to upskill or build new plant/tooling to handle it.
@zopEnglandzip
@zopEnglandzip 4 ай бұрын
The Directorate of tank design, possibly the only entity with all of that research at their fingertips and the ability to talk The war office out of antiquated requirements was responsible for armoured perfection in the form of centurion, the downside of the embodiment of that knowledge was it missed the war.
@fuzzy1dk
@fuzzy1dk 4 ай бұрын
@@jrdougan Too expensive, Too late, or Good enough, pick one
@preserveourpbfs7128
@preserveourpbfs7128 4 ай бұрын
I would absolutely love to hear more about British (and other) ammunition distribution and usage.
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy 4 ай бұрын
That was ar real treat that we got to hear it run & see it drive around ❤
@michaelwright2986
@michaelwright2986 4 ай бұрын
Different service, but it's often claimed that the reason the RAF persisted with the inadequate .303 machine guns (rather than 0.5s) was logistics, even though it's a completely different supply chain. It's probably compartmentalised decision making and differential effects of inertia, like in everything.
@WozWozEre
@WozWozEre 4 ай бұрын
I reinstall Warthunder once or twice a year purely to play the AEC MkII. So much fun.
@Kar-wm5on
@Kar-wm5on 4 ай бұрын
It's said that the OQF 75mm (not the US M3 gun) is more or less the same form factor as the 6pdr, so surely fitting it isn't too bad ? Then again, living with the recoil of the gun in an armored car may be something else.
@larryjohnson7591
@larryjohnson7591 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting vehicle. I did get claustrophobic watching you sitting in the thing.
@steveturner3999
@steveturner3999 4 ай бұрын
Did the job it was designed for and wasn’t a repair depot regular. Can’t complain about its looks with a pedigree like that. Well, actually you can but I’m not going to. Thanks Chieftain!
@kaden7443
@kaden7443 4 ай бұрын
Thank you again for this video. I was really excited to see it drive.
@KnifeChatswithTobias
@KnifeChatswithTobias 4 ай бұрын
It would seem the Brits did a bang up job with Armoured Cars.
@builder396
@builder396 2 ай бұрын
I feel like as he ages Chieftain will become more and more like David Fletcher. Lovably chaotic.
@jasonasarian8066
@jasonasarian8066 4 ай бұрын
Love to see notification for a new video from this channel. I've watched all videos on this channel. The quality of the real information you give is awesome Thank you for dropping content keep up the good work!!!
@alangordon3283
@alangordon3283 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Nick always a joy to see the usual and unloved vehicles given there time in the limelight .
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 4 ай бұрын
Got to love the drivers side mirrors!
@therish7169
@therish7169 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Chieftain, that was indeed interesting and informative!
@ianbell5611
@ianbell5611 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Love the humor at the end😂
@Cadadadry
@Cadadadry 4 ай бұрын
@TheChieftainsHatch As you are in Belgium, can you please ask to see and possibly make a video about the Opel Blitz radio truck ? It's the only one remaining in the world !
@adodgygeeza
@adodgygeeza 4 ай бұрын
Also QF 75mm was a bored out 6pdr so could use the same mounts. Hence the gun would be no larger.
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 ай бұрын
Chuckle at the end (you being chased). I did find it interesting and informative. And I actually like it's looks. Thank you. ☮
@dannyneal6194
@dannyneal6194 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative.
@chromiumphotography5138
@chromiumphotography5138 4 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this pair of videos. The vehicle isn't that exciting but just did what it said on the tin. Thanks 👍🏻
@marinetech262
@marinetech262 4 ай бұрын
Credit where credit is due Nicholas. You were MUCH more organized, on subject, and knowledgeable in this second episode, than you were on the first. I did not get the impression you had been drinking heavily before filming. Good show that man! Keep it up lad.
@michaelguerin56
@michaelguerin56 4 ай бұрын
Good video. Thank you. Matador HQ is a good information source on the driveline, as they rebuild AEC Matadors and sell N.O.S. or rebuilt items including new cabs.
@coldfox7308
@coldfox7308 4 ай бұрын
the production quality is really great now !
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 4 ай бұрын
I want one, perfect for a leisurely drive on the Autobahn...
@dougstubbs9637
@dougstubbs9637 4 ай бұрын
The 75 mm was developed from the Six Pounder, so no changes in breech size internally.
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 3 ай бұрын
Yes, Centurion had two periscopes for the driver. It used to really annoy me when driving closed down.
@Cyborg617
@Cyborg617 4 ай бұрын
The gopro footage in between is a great addition
@tokencivilian8507
@tokencivilian8507 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting and very informative.
@osmacar5331
@osmacar5331 4 ай бұрын
wasn't until recently we stopped using the BESA, it was a phenomenal MG tbh.
@williamsnellen4901
@williamsnellen4901 4 ай бұрын
❤ ur videos and information it’s awesome 👏
@JeffHenry-cq3is
@JeffHenry-cq3is 4 ай бұрын
Neat has the radio
@dcimedic
@dcimedic 4 ай бұрын
I known the Chieftain would down play it but there is something very relaxing about his s videos after a stressful day at work. On a side quest what were the 2 APC looking vehicles behind during the outside closing remarks parked next to the hill?
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 ай бұрын
I believe one's an M75, the smaller one's an AMX-13 VCI.
@dposcuro
@dposcuro 4 ай бұрын
That is a good question. The one on the right makes me think MT-LB by the doors, but _everything else_ is wrong. The GT-MU is about the right length, but the doors are different, and so is the track geometry.... But I think I know what it is, after looking up former Belgian equipment: AMX-VCI. The one on the left I have utterly no idea about.
@Colinpark
@Colinpark 4 ай бұрын
Such a neat vehicle. Personal I like the look, very business like. I hope you got a few minutes to go over the French APC there.....
@MakeMeThinkAgain
@MakeMeThinkAgain 4 ай бұрын
I drove a Mini around England back in 1984 and the hardest thing to get used to was the gear shift on the left. I found I could either think about negotiating London traffic or shifting gears, but not both at the same time.
@iatsd
@iatsd 4 ай бұрын
Weirdly lacking in skill then. Milions of British and others around the Commonwealth world have no problem with switching left to right and back as they travel the world.
@CrusaderSports250
@CrusaderSports250 4 ай бұрын
​@@iatsdI think the problem WAS the gear shift. A whole other addition to driving skills that had to be learned by someone bought up on automatics, not a criticism of the man's ability but just an observation.
@iatsd
@iatsd 4 ай бұрын
@@CrusaderSports250 If he was American then, yes, possibly or even likely that gear shift was a problem for that reason. But that that would be a problem whether it was right or left hand drive. I read the phrasing as meaning that having to shift gears with a *left* hand was a problem - the implication in it was that right hand wouldn't have been a problem - which just strikes me as odd given, as I said, millions and millions of people in other countries have no problems switching right to left.
@mikesmithg0rfd356
@mikesmithg0rfd356 4 ай бұрын
thank you
@sternencolonel7328
@sternencolonel7328 4 ай бұрын
What does the diesel sounds like ? plays music over it.....
@naizeylines
@naizeylines 4 ай бұрын
i dont know why but i just love the look of that amx 13 vcl in the background outside the shop
@geoffreymarshall639
@geoffreymarshall639 4 ай бұрын
The British had a system where if the gun fired an anti tank round it belonged to the army. If it used HE it belonged to the artillery. An exception was the 2pdr used by the infantry which had HE as well as anti tank but the two pounder in the Matilda only had an AT round.
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 4 ай бұрын
That is not true. 1stly CS tanks were only armed with smoke and HE yet were *not* part of the artillery. 2ndly regular tanks and anti-tank guns started receiveing both HE and AP shells by 1943/4 for most calibres. 3rdly he only reason the matilda in the desert campaign did not have an HE round was because wpdr didn't have 1 yet. Matildas in the far east got he rounds. An he round was only made for the 2pdr in late 1942 by which time Matildas had been pulled out of North Africa. 4thly speaking of the 2pdr, the towed 2pdr was part of the arillery since 1938. It was not part of the infantry. 5thly the towed 17pdr entered service as part of the artillery in October 1942, despite not getting a HE shell untill June 1944. Similarly the 2pdr and 6pdr guns also entered service with the artillery without HE.
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 4 ай бұрын
As a prior Centurian owner I can confirm that the driver's periscopes suck.
@cataclysmicnothing
@cataclysmicnothing 4 ай бұрын
drooling over the IS-3 in the opening shot so bad I forgot I came here for the AEC
@marcelmustang1
@marcelmustang1 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Lost it at the end…
@archer159
@archer159 4 ай бұрын
Don't know why -but it reminds me somehow of a wheeled-Dalek? Not that there ever was such a thing mind. Great vid, as ever Chiefy!
@Ari.Atland
@Ari.Atland 4 ай бұрын
18:07 It should be noted that the Staghound Mk.III which fitted a Crusader Turret, carried a 75mm gun.
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Chieftain. Love me some little scamp armoured car mullarkey.
@samharvey6194
@samharvey6194 4 ай бұрын
Bastogne Barracks is a great visit, had one my favourites in there a ISU-152, NGL I did get a bit excited 😂
@adodgygeeza
@adodgygeeza 4 ай бұрын
I suspect that the US made it's penetration comparison with the APC rounds, 6pdr APCBC out performs the 75mm by a good margin even at 2000m
@ashleysmith3106
@ashleysmith3106 4 ай бұрын
A mate of mine used to own a Ferret Mk2 armoured car (with dummy gun) that he bought at auction when the Australian Government was selling them off. He reckoned it was the best thing for getting through traffic; I think this would be even better for prompting other drivers to give you a wide berth ! !
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 4 ай бұрын
The RAC had its own supply chain so handling 8mm Mauser was no real problem. The BESA simply came that way. There was a brief period at the end of the war when they considered making it the army standard to replace .303”. It was more of an issue to supply the Bren’s .303”. BTW the Yugoslavians had several which they used as wheeled tanks. You mentioned the Staghound and I refer you to my comments on part 1 on them using the same AEC turret post war when they ran out of old Crusader turrets to pop onto Staghounds.
@Duke_of_Petchington
@Duke_of_Petchington 4 ай бұрын
From what I am aware, the BESA is a licensed produce CZECH machine gun. As a result it was 8mm. What is odd is the Birmingham Small arms company did not modify the gun to fire .303.
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 4 ай бұрын
The BESA was adopted in 1938; when war was already looming: There wasn't time to adapt the gun from 7.92x57mm to the rimmed .303". Especially without the co-operation of Zbrojovka Brno; which was cut off when the Germans occupation Czechslovakia. It had taken five years to develop the Bren from the ZB-27.
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 4 ай бұрын
When you see how long it took for the Bren to be changed from Czech 8mm Mauser to .303” you can see why. Plus the separate RAC supply change.@@Duke_of_Petchington
@bongfuhrer
@bongfuhrer 4 ай бұрын
Awesome! One of my favorite War Thunder vehicles. Always wanted to see the real thing.
@laurisikio
@laurisikio 4 ай бұрын
I bet you are deliberately irritating the majority of us by bringing up the fact that you're a War Thunder player >:/
@DaremoKamen
@DaremoKamen 4 ай бұрын
IIRC When the British realized they needed a better vehicle MG, they also realized that they wouldn't have the time to modify it to function with .303 like they had with the Bren so they just went with an off the shelf solution even though it was a different cartridge.
@Fencer
@Fencer 4 ай бұрын
There is one of these in the opening battle of TANK FORCE -1958 Movie.
@SmokePoppa
@SmokePoppa 4 ай бұрын
Odd note, TA-50 stands for Table of Allowance -50 (Item 50) and "Web Gear" refers to an iteration or generation of field equipment like the Molle, Alice, etc. Web Gear was the standard US issue (GI) TA-50 during WWII.
@dredlord47
@dredlord47 4 ай бұрын
As an American, I'd call it a 2-1/4" gun. (Though it's technically 2.24", not 2.25".
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 4 ай бұрын
The official American designation for the 6pdr was m-1 57mm
@dredlord47
@dredlord47 4 ай бұрын
@@matthiuskoenig3378They are wrong. It is a 2.24" gun, so a duce-and-a-quarter.
@CrusaderSports250
@CrusaderSports250 4 ай бұрын
A good and purposeful looking armoured car, shame there's not more of them left, do any companies make a model of it?.
@edcliff4627
@edcliff4627 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this tour of the AEC, interesting vehicle. You did drive past the IS3, when are we going to see you squeeze into that ? Ha
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk 4 ай бұрын
The driver shan’t speak, thou shalt only do. Drive you, drive.
@comradeonlyme
@comradeonlyme 4 ай бұрын
If I remeber correctly the Royal Armouries channel has a video on the Besa in which they explain why the RAC stuck with 8mm Mauser.
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 4 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, it was because they didn't have time to convert it to .303 before the war started and it didn't matter much anyway since the RAC's supply chain was independent of the rest of the army's anyway.
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il 4 ай бұрын
The British 75mm was a bored out 6 Pounder (57mm) so there would be be no gun size problem or at least no more than the 6 pounder. Ammunition would be larger of course (15 pound vs 6 pound shell) so there must not have been as many rounds.
@clothar23
@clothar23 4 ай бұрын
To be fair it's an amoured car. Ammo capacity really shouldn't be a concern. At best it's a recon vehicle. At worse it's a hit and run sort of affair.
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il 4 ай бұрын
@@clothar23 It was used as SP artillery - every Squadron had a Heavy Troop of either 75mm Mark III AEC's or 75mm M3 Tank Destroyers passed on from the US Army after it was declared obsolete (but used as SPG's rather than TD's) Since the M3 mounted the old M1897 field gun, it had come full circle. Here is a Heavy Troop imn action with their M3's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Gun_Motor_Carriage#/media/File:The_British_Army_in_Italy_1945_NA22387.jpg
@chriscamfield7610
@chriscamfield7610 4 ай бұрын
That is the first vehicle I've seen with a permanent water tank for the crew, other than the Archer.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 ай бұрын
Centurion?
@shootingwithmitch5921
@shootingwithmitch5921 4 ай бұрын
I had a 1958 simca unic army lorr that had that air release system on the brakes, it went off every minute or two when the engine was running. It would have some real force to it, once I was underneath the thing doing some work on it with the engine running and got pebble-dashed when the valve dumped out. Not fun..
@JeffHenry-cq3is
@JeffHenry-cq3is 4 ай бұрын
On the MG Was to be 303 but the war started before conversion could be finished so kept 7.92 as only the amor corp used it
@michaelsliwowski5076
@michaelsliwowski5076 4 ай бұрын
The British 6 pdr and the British 75mm gun were the same gun . Meaning the 6pdr converted to US 75mm ammunition .
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 4 ай бұрын
Yup. The QF-75mm was the QF-6 Pounder, bored out to 75mm to use US Ammo'... with the result of worse AP performance but at least a decent HE.
@CGM_68
@CGM_68 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if you've considered doing the Rolls-Royce armoured car 'Sliabh na mBan'? I ask as my GrandDad had the task of recovering it following Collins demise in his native West Cork.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 ай бұрын
As the best preserved Rolls Royce armoured car, it's always been in the back of my mind
@michaelbevan3285
@michaelbevan3285 4 ай бұрын
My Grandfather served in Sliabh na Mban. I have been in it and I am slightly shorter than Nick and I can get in and out easily.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 4 ай бұрын
Great video. My pleasant viewing of this most excellent set of videos from the fair and green land of Belgium was interrupted by foul mouthed adverts for mixed martial arts cage fighters. What a shame.
@Crazy_Borg
@Crazy_Borg 4 ай бұрын
Could we get a little bit of jakety sax for the end bits the next time? So its a bus with a big gun , where the crew has only slightly less room than any passenger on public transportation these says. Got it.
@MelvilleSperryn
@MelvilleSperryn 3 ай бұрын
The 75mm was the 6 pounder bored out, so they were the same external dimensions
@stumpythedwarf8712
@stumpythedwarf8712 4 ай бұрын
Armored vehicles can bite. Hard. Be careful, always, we don't want you hurt either.
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 4 ай бұрын
If you could just fit in it nicely you'd suddenly stop calling Ugly no doubt. It looks like a pretty good choice for its era, and as armoured car/wheeled tanks go it isn't hideous. Though its no Alvis 6 wheeler...
@tony66au
@tony66au 4 ай бұрын
The AEC is VERY Pretty :-)
@tarjei99
@tarjei99 4 ай бұрын
The HE shell of the 6 pounder could possibly be improved by using RDX instead of Amatol or equivalent. Using steel instead of cast iron should allow for more explosive inside.
@JB-up8md
@JB-up8md 4 ай бұрын
When it reversed out of the shed and took off round the corner I immediately thought 'Dalek'
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 4 ай бұрын
😄 Good one!
@Theduckwebcomics
@Theduckwebcomics 4 ай бұрын
It looks like the solder ant version of a ferret 😅 You know how you see a line of little ants and there will be the occasional one with the oversized head and massive mandibuls keeping the others safe...? That's this.
@kommissarkillemall2848
@kommissarkillemall2848 4 ай бұрын
Been measuring the size of the parkinglots in my street, and it would fit in place of a large van.. and as a wheeled vehicle it can be made streetlegal, unlike a tank. Now i want one.. for reasons.
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