Inside the Daily Life of a Live Streaming Star in China | Op-Docs

[@swarajkanr]

She said she didn't care about anything as long as she makes music but at the end she looked so broken.

[@Vizible21]

@Joeng Sui she's broken because she doesn't enjoy what she is doing. It's obvious dude.

[@hedgehog1684]

the lady in the first video . does any body here know her name . i think i got struck by cupid

[@Vizible21]

@Jojo Tarro you can see it if people doesn't care about something. One way or another that girl will surely try to get away from that job.

[@anthyavila9726]

She may have liked it in the beginning, but then she got swallowed by some agency. I heard that livestreamers get snapped up by agencies when they get a big enough audience, and they can't say no, because those agencies can sabotage their careers. They end up having to give up a huge chunk of their income to the agency and essentially get exploited and sucked dry until they lose popularity or break down and can't work anymore.

[@swarajkanr]

@@anthyavila9726 the manager calling her immediately to scold her for not doing what was expected of her really made me sad. She was tired & wanted a light-hearted stream but instead of empathy, she was threatened.

[@ohhireneexo]

It’s so odd how the internet allows so many people to connect to each other from all over the world but everyone is still so lonely.

[@jojo7323]

I bet this was shot from 2015. Why they still use iphone 6?

[@zetay3426]

@@jojo7323 maybe 2017? just look at the ppt.

[@corpsefoot758]

Quantity is not quality 🤷‍♂️

[@zitronentee]

Even without internet, there are people who feel lonely in crowd.

[@Mj0pink]

That’s usually how it works sadly. No amount of contact over the internet can replace face to face human connection. We need it to be happy and heathy!

[@FlowerThePot]

My very lonely uncle gets obsessive over women on the internet. It’s to the point where he refuses to date women in real life because they don’t meet his beauty standards and they’re not submissive enough. There’s something dehumanizing about voyeuristic intimacy.

[@nalia2859]

I think its so sad how men on the internet are successful because of their talent when women's reputation is based on how they look and make their viewers feel...

[@r3dpowel796]

I am a psychology student at the moment. I think this is going to be something interesting for people to research.

[@r3dpowel796]

@@nalia2859 I think you missed the point. it's not about being successful. it's about not being able to receive the dreams they both want to achieve. Ideal love and Ideal jobs. Its a money making loops.

[@xavia8128]

Mannnn, I've recently noticed on instagram. Every girls profile have links in their Bio supposedly to take you 6th dimension. They are laying down their fate of becoming cheap

[@TahtahmesDiary]

The joke is the women he has projected onto as submissive are likely playing a role and NOT really like this. Saying what creepy stuff he likes to get his money and views. He's created a fantasy that no one can live up to and likely HE isn't even good enough to deserve. Most men are wise enough to understand fantasy online (manipulated with branding, storyline etc) tho and appreciate regular women.

[@jaco3394]

This is so well done. I honestly felt bad for everyone. For her, because she's clearly being exploited and possibly falling into depression, and for the guys, because imagine being so lonely the only 'true' connection you have is with a stranger online. It's very sad to watch but also very eye-opening.

[@arami187]

The "Men", using that term very loosely, have more Money than Sense. They deserve to lose their funds, since they already lost their Balls.

[@alices.5367]

Ikr, literally made me cry... I wish for her to pursue her music passion in a better way and for all the guys to find real relationships. They all deserve to be loved and happy

[@dzezonja3558]

That's the dark side of social media and internet. It's driving us apart. Mark my words "every action has equal and opposite reaction", no matter what technology we come up with it will always be equally negative effects somewhere either in some big aspect or scattered in many micro negative branches.

[@cowsagainstcapitalism347]

So nasty.

[@scottmescudi3423]

dead true

[@Oridux]

The lighting absolutely makes everything. The coldness of it, just, sends a chill up your spine.

[@0Blaire0]

Yea I wonder what the real life color temperature looks like. Every room can’t have cold white light all the time

[@mimopiu]

I don't think that's how the real-life color temperature looks like. It is probably a filter to match the theme or exaggerate it.

[@Rebecca-fo4nn]

to me it feels like techno-orientalist propaganda

[@henotic.essence]

Sweatshop :(

[@cromwellcruz]

probs post render

[@satani2117]

The way she joked about her not having a day off was kind of psychotic

[@exe1972]

The sad thing is, this is actually common. You just kind of have to get used to it and smile along lol

[@randomcarrot7970]

People joke to cope with their problems... happens all the time. Even in college where you have to grind and grind, you just gotta joke to cope.

[@joshrealms244]

In their culture this is completely normal. Working yourself to death is actually common.

[@bubblegumbxtchh]

@blue I believe OP meant that she was making a joke out of something actually serious.

[@stalker0006]

She stopped streaming in 2019.

[@mpft0293]

No one looks at her like a person. They view her as a money-making machine and a figment of their imagination... that's gotta tire anyone out.

[@DavidJohnson-dp4vv]

I worked in China for around 5 years. It's how they do business people are literally money making machines. You don't wanna call in sick for work even if you've never missed work over 2 years and always showed up on time. You'll have a problem if you genuinely are sick and call in the vast majorities of business don't treat their employees or business partners like people.

[@davidnguyen7160]

Just like working for a company.

[@partridge7341]

Isn’t that just called being a celebrity?

[@zannaxz]

its so sad. it made me feel so uncomfortable and sad for this woman while watching this. it isnt fair.

[@icephoenix3565]

@@DavidJohnson-dp4vv I bet you were an "English teacher" lol. Aka some mayo with zero skills in his own country and has to rely on his skin color to get a job "teaching" kindergarteners English

[@kaneeix4529]

the way she went "did you think I would give you a day off?" and then laughed gives me chills.

[@eden5260]

China ! God is money

[@solarprogeny6736]

crazy that some people still think china is communist when they've embraced predatory capitalism even more strongly than the US and Europe

[@Centre14]

but i though the west loved capitalism

[@eden5260]

@@Centre14 and also values and manners. China? Not so much

[@cindylilies]

​@@eden5260 observe how the western food and drinks industry exploits the deep rooted culture and lack of education in developing countries to trade lives for profit, and tell me they still adhere to 'values and manners'. don't be stupid.

[@eduardocastro8757]

Its just so sad, for both the streamers and the people watching that feel they have a real relationship. I dont know who's lonelier

[@assiterkv]

I had the same reaction; nothing seems authentic.

[@jason4275]

It's sad that they live in a world where their followers expect them to be the same person online and off, many streamers complains that their life streaming is nothing like their private lives, they have to have 2 personalities, and its tearing apart their mental health.

[@jojo7323]

you mean like twitch streamers? what's the difference?

[@obsidianstatue]

One is willing to spend, and one is willing to provide a service. What problems do you have with this? You should also realize you're being manipulated by the grey filters, low saturations, and using the echoes of the livestreams as the only sound effects. This is done so you can follow their anti-China narrative. When has NYT done anything relating to twitch streams, which often has a much more toxic content than this.

[@zackattackwojo]

Maybe for streamers that are pushed to not have any contact with chat unless its for money your delusional

[@windywendi]

To be honest, the livestream company gives me the vibe of a brothel.

[@ariewijaya1679]

but without veneral disease

[@bloodnivel70]

Take a wild guess

[@Jennifer-pb7zq]

I agree with this 100%! Seemed to me like a digital prostitution.

[@zhangjin5120]

Not really, the industry is highly regulated and you don't want to risk it breaking the law.

[@brbapappa]

What percentage does the company take? 80% or 20%

[@WMF88]

it's interesting how neither party, the viewer nor the streamer, are happy about what they do. It's a transaction. And a means to an end. I like how it was shot in this dark and eerie atmosphere as it drives the point home so well.

[@sh-theel]

that simp seems to think otherwise

[@みつを-m3w]

Only her agency is happy

[@Halo_Hxney]

Fake happiness for fake happiness

[@djadams1264]

He seemed pretty happy to me, sadly.

[@mocha8908]

@@Halo_Hxneythats not fake happiness, the dude is having fun, and I wish for a.i women robots to be created faster so that way more than 50% of men would choose robots over women and never even interact with them, glorious future.

[@alandeutsch9987]

I love how it ended with "tired." really encapsulates the whole vibe of this situation - like it's just a perpetual hamster wheel of work and making more and more money with no end in sight. also the whole video was filmed mostly at night and in dark environments which gave it an eerie, depressing feel that matched the tone of the subject matter.

[@sithlord3442]

The colour grading is so haunting. Props to the team who put this together!

[@me.with.my.self.]

when all stop donating to her - she will crawl from everyones screens

[@siliconiusantogramaphantis2122]

Matrix

[@user-wy1nv8uf1z]

or you mean daunting?

[@DaviAreias]

It's done on purpose, the same thing happens in other countries but if they used this color pallete it would look too obvious what they are trying to do.

[@sophonblock76]

that how new york times like to demonize other countries

[@kittycatcuties]

That last shot of Jin. The look in her eyes. Just wow, I hope she finds true happiness.

[@StreetDrilla]

yup

[@alionroare7777]

@SAIF KAMAL everyone is struggling in their own way

[@wanbiis]

@SAIF KAMAL nah you’re the only stupid one here. there’s kids starving in Africa but by your logic we should ignore them because there’s people dealing with harder times 🤡🤡

[@moonlightbae2879]

@SAIF KAMAL she might be, but even with a lot of money her mental health doesn't seen good

[@kev5924]

@SAIF KAMAL what safe space, your sentence is confusing and from what ive seen you are the only ignorant person here

[@tarana9329]

She doesn't seem tired. She seems like someone who is slowly absorbing that she's sold her soul.

[@thebx-substack-com]

That's what money does. The problem is so few realise it. China is a tough country. So many with so little. And in communism. Way harder than most. But you forgot this is happening everywhere, especially in social media, regard.less of where they are. To focus on this alone while ignoring what is happening to everyone around you, maybe even yourself, is evading the real problem: money/banking/finance. Please do not say we need it. Again, you would be evading the point and not understanding what I am saying fully. i'm writing this to open your eyes a little wider: it isn't jsut her selling their soul.

[@xiaolongbaoenthusiaist457]

How is this selling your soul but sitting in a cubicle for 45 years doing 9 to 5 making money for a billionaire is what people suppose to do?

[@melaniedarmawan5478]

@@xiaolongbaoenthusiaist457 both are, but one is deemed 'better' than the other, unfortunately.

[@maybeaspider3456]

@@xiaolongbaoenthusiaist457 If you work for a company you probably help them sell something or provide a service. They make money, they pay you money for helping them make money. In the livestream industry, these girls ARE the product and to keep a steady stream of money rolling in they need to continuously con more suckers into spending the money they make at their actual job. They pretend to know thousands of people online just to get more and more money out of them without ever meeting them in real life, look up parasocial relationships. People aren't "supposed" to work in a cubicle for 45 years, but making that choice seems logical and more stable/secure than putting on a load of makeup and pretending to be someone you're not in front of a camera for 18 hours a day

[@itsbrassicabitch4439]

@@maybeaspider3456 entertainment is a service. and in my opinion, a much more honest and redeemable one compared to selling products that poison people slowly, destroy forests and ecosystems, or fill oceans and landfills with useless disposable plastic crap

[@DerpyDragonful]

During the video Jin tells how she does not mind becoming a streamer instead of a singer as long as she can still keep on making music. At the end of the video when she goes online and tells her followers she is tired and does not want to sing, and gets called out by her mgt for doing so, you can see how the passion she once had is no longer there as she says "tired" and closes her eyes. Poor kid.

[@uncleiroh3701]

the fake books scared me lmao, this is all so dystopian and eerie

[@perfectstudents8361]

Even in the US, those fake books are available for sale. Some people buy them for decoration.

[@Goku-km2lk]

True

[@zarahmeneses2482]

@@perfectstudents8361 reading your comment hurt. hahahah Books are meant to be read. Not serve as decorations 🥺

[@periphyllap2167]

fake books can use to hide a weapon. you are right to be scare.

[@maxjing61]

That's what the video filter + music wants you to feel..you took the hint.

[@whalefuhk]

Jin He is gorgeous but looks so tired. Her talent manager has no compassion for her exhaustion and only sees profit.

[@Daemon1995_]

its called grinding till you make it.

[@whalefuhk]

@Yuxin Lin she literally laughed at her being exhausted and said she can’t take off for 3 months so deal with it

[@JingLiSH]

Which sums up the business model of that company/the industry.

[@pianoonparade]

sadly, that's probably also what makes her a good talent manager. wring as much out of the talent as possible and then dispose and find a new one.

[@whalefuhk]

@@pianoonparade I agree she’s efficient and probably makes a ton off of the streamers’ talents. It’s just unethical in my opinion. I think it devalues the streamer themselves and potentially leaves lasting scars on their mental health.

[@ayeshasaleem647]

The fact that Jin he was scolded for showing her real self to her fans is sooo disturbing.

[@zainmehal9950]

Just one little bit of honesty is punished

[@nadjak3410]

Just goes to show that this agency doesn't know what they're talking about. Let the girl be sad on Camera and the guys will likely throw money at her like crazy. They're even too small minded to efficiently exploit her... She's probably under some crazy strict contract, too.

[@gravityissues5210]

Ironincally, at least in the west, having a breakdown on camera really brings in the donations as people rush to comfort their favorite streamer. Maybe the culture is different in China.

[@waynen9990]

@@gravityissues5210 The culture operates like ancient China. Recent celebs are getting canceled for pictures resurfacing from years ago.

[@lotussight]

@@gravityissues5210 it's Asian culture. Looking weak means you're not strong enough to handle anything. In the UK, where I grew up, it's like if you're weak people reward you because they feel bad. It's totally the opposite in Asia. They punish you because you should be 'better'.

[@sashburrito4006]

Whew this was like watching a short film. Beautifully shot, with a sense of dread in so little minutes. The last shot of Jin’s manager scolding her and her brows furrowed, then she tries to perk up but can’t smile.

[@한사만타]

This is really weird for me. They were trained to be a top tier live streamer. Usually, people just live stream whenever they want and do not need any training but just experience. They are like the Idol Training in Korea.

[@Uchihasasuk5]

that's east asia for you

[@한사만타]

@@Uchihasasuk5 East Asia is really bound with perfectionism.

[@snehathapa584]

@@한사만타 true

[@tamzpyne7613]

Was thinking the same thing

[@afrilS]

Of couse those streamer are solos, but streamer in China is like an idols work.

[@满地走]

I’m Chinese and this is truly heartbreaking yet beautifully done. I kind of knew that streamers don’t lead a particularly happy life, and in general, only lonely people are interested in such videos or livestreams. I didn’t expect it to be this emotionally disheartening though. Well done, NYT.

[@aryavirsangwan6837]

Hey man, I’m here in America. I’m interested, how’s life in china? I’ve always held a interest in East Asian countries, their history, and their current state.

[@aryavirsangwan6837]

@@jackji7020 bruh?

[@idkwhybut...]

@@jackji7020 China isn't East Asian? 😂😂

[@nosimpsii9258]

@@aryavirsangwan6837 nothing much different from other countries i think,but certainly people are less comfortable than western countries in terms of the work, and by the way, the so called social credit system is fake.

[@Juumonji]

@@nosimpsii9258 Fake? Really? I have Chinese friends that said that system is real.

[@chloe8387]

the stalking this leads to is terrifying, especially if they're streaming in public

[@mizzymsp]

I guess lots of streamers do that, but the difference is at least they’re not actually alone when they do it

[@Hebiiiii1]

@Black Deir a lot of streamers have been attacked in public while streaming. They were stalked. One girl was chased through Tokyo Mainsquare and she was traumatised. Luckily the police managed to catch the dude not to mention if they are in public and someone recognises them they will try to make suggestive comments and other very inappropriate behaviour so please educate yourself

[@AlexaBellaMuerte]

😬😬😬 freaking scary

[@kellenlim]

Watching this really breaks my heart. 😢 I don’t watch live streamers very much but seeing their unique personalities, their points of view, the cute and funny moments with their friends on discord, and how they exhibit a sense of sincerity with their viewers makes me feel a comforting sense of connection I can’t fully describe. Seeing this being made into an industry where these young women are exploited and made to manufacture these personalities rather than being allowed to grow and be themselves is downright disturbing and saddening to me.

[@adrianamancuso4917]

No one looks happy, and everyone looks lonely. Technology and virtual reality can never replace true human companionship.

[@RavenWolf654]

What can they do when country have about 100 million more men than women?

[@class6aa]

Of course no one looks happy. This is a WSJ video on China, it’s against the company culture to show happy people in China.

[@cameronempey8350]

Adriana if we have to tell you again please stop thinking to much and posting it on the internet….your live steam starts in Tminus 12mins and we need you in character to bring us in that sweet cash! Lol

[@DeletedAccountForSure]

This could be a Black Mirror episode.

[@claudine8140]

Why is everyone against virtual relationships ugh. It's also a good way for good rapport before meeting in person. U shouldn't judge what makes people comfortable, maybe virtual relationships are helpful in some ways. It's genuine in its own way.

[@tokwatomato]

I feel so bad for her. It's really very exploitative. And then the talent manager had the gall to joke about not giving her any breaks in the coming months.

[@fyessssss]

Maybe she was joking in a way to cope and you can tell she was being sympathetic because she told her to get some rest.. so yeah.

[@ayleene100]

It's her choise in the end, you know..

[@cutsbydrew]

@@ayleene100 not if shes locked into a contract with this company, and theyre definitelyyyyy not paying her nearly as much as she should be making for it to be worth it

[@ayleene100]

@@cutsbydrew But she is the one who accept the contract, who sign it, no one did it for her, so is fully her choise.

[@cutsbydrew]

@@ayleene100 its no longer her choice if she was taken advantage of witha. contract that is designed to prey on young women and turn them into money making cattle for what’s essentially a post apocalyptic virtual brothel

[@DarkFalconTBA06]

This is so well shot, so well put together. Naturally, the content itself is tragic, but conveying that tragedy through more than just the words being said is an art form.

[@cameronempey8350]

Yeah this was a fantastic mini doc…gives us a look into the strange real world of China where some are richer than Americans could even dream, and some are poorer then the poorest! Wish it was longer though.

[@jax8763]

Really? Dim filter sad music+ just few more pathetic editing, you could basically make anything a tragedy. I mean your comment literally indicates they have done a pretty good job to once again demonize China just a bit more.

[@PenganutAgamaDamaiKolohBakwan]

@@jax8763 those words are cheap nowadays, type a compelling words when they even didn't know how to measure. Never stating in details why, what just because they already watch & read condensed some views or even reviews popular subject without foundation of understanding. Also they who agree with how many likes it gets makes clear indication of our generations of illiterate also how bad effect of fast information.

[@madelinebitts2766]

@@jax8763 Okay wumao.

[@PenganutAgamaDamaiKolohBakwan]

@Jina Mina Avastar⭐ that what communism is, you remove/banning religious practices so they "the proletariat" adored or even worship their leader due no-one more powerful/exalted than themselves (gods/deities). But in practices they worship the idols/actors because how popular, beautiful and kind to their fans.

[@anthonyng3014]

This was really well shot and edited, my respect to the director of photography and camera team here. Such a common story being told yet almost never revealed because by the time a streamer ends up like this one, they simply just fall off the radar and disappear. We almost never get to see the aftermath. I truly hope this whole video wasn't staged and best of luck to the streamer in the video.

[@kaypop9666]

It’s time for Jin He to go solo. At this point her fans would follow her and she could keep the money she earns. Her contract with her agency may be crazy though.

[@kyupified2440]

I bet its the type of contract where she cant just go if she wants to, i remember watching a video like this but it’s about models from other country (foriegn country girls who live in provinces but have the beauty standards in china) who tried to make a living in china hoping to be a bigshot but in their contract, they have to earn a specific amount if they want to cut the contract (paying the agency in short). As if theyre modelling in debt

[@jungkooks_microwavephobia]

She seems like an actual genuine person overall maybe thats why shes so successful

[@venusbby]

Going solo will have to depend with the type/class of the contract......and also her will to (no offense) give up the vanity

[@yothiga]

The company can even own her channel so if she quit she might lose almost all followers.

[@elvishassassin1]

The thing is her entire image is fake though. She doesn't have anything authentic that she creates. Even her room is fake. So if she went solo she wouldn't be able to keep up that fake image. She would need to reinvent herself. She's basically an employee, not a real content creator. She's basically playing a part that her manager created. It's weird how in Asia everything is controlled by corporations (like K-pop groups) whereas in the west, content creators are a lot more individual and have creative control over their own content. I'm guessing it's probably a cultural thing, a different mentality. Maybe Asians don't have the confidence to go out and succeed on their own. Not saying it's good or bad, it's just different.

[@Zeno7741]

Her soul is slowly leaving her body. She needs to get out of that business

[@plantmama7442]

Agreed. She isn’t even trying to hide the misery in her eyes. She needs help, yet all the “adults” in her life are exploitative & greedy. Sad.

[@joannalok9833]

I know this main girl Jin He through a singing competition in 2018. I showed her this video and she told me that this was filmed back in 2017. She's actually very successful now. She's being invited as a guest artist to a lot of major events in China and doing photo shoots for major brands like Clinique

[@nattokami9598]

@@joannalok9833 thank god

[@ozzo870]

That last shot is absolutely heartbreaking wtff

[@katiechen4324]

Ikr, especially when they asked her if she was tired and she closed her eyes

[@hedgehog1684]

the first lady in the video. she got my attention she's so beautiful i want to date her

[@sean-pl3us]

@@hedgehog1684 u really missed the point lol

[@hedgehog1684]

@@sean-pl3us what's her name for general research

[@sean-pl3us]

@@hedgehog1684 just no

[@lkrlipoktoshi]

this is literally lifeless .....good documentary...feel bad for these people. I feel them. Watching this made me feel like a machine

[@Jupa]

What a small bit of masterpiece this film was. You can feel it, the last scene, the deadness in her eyes. It's heartbreaking. This is gonna stick with me for sure. It's depressing because you wish you could do something to help, but even money can't help this. She's eroding inside and there's no charity for that. There's nothing you can do to help. You can just be a better person to those around you or you are able to influence and wish the best for everybody else in the world. It's a deeply disheartening, polarising and cold world.

[@RckDtar]

or we all fell for an great act

[@olmakses5428]

@@RckDtar act of what ?

[@ehikssu4499]

@@RckDtar If this wasn't a problem there wouldn't be a documentary. I think you're just being negative.

[@winsersery]

We don't need to help her. She chose that way and can go another path at any time. Besides it's not guaranteed to be the real situation without certain evidences or cross-confirmations just as Letsuo said. People tend to easily believe what they see on youtube without questioning.

[@araciaearth]

@@winsersery I do question everything but even if it is exaggerated or fake, you can’t act so tired without ever experiencing it either beforehand or at the moment, I still want to give her a hug and make her realise how toxic this is

[@Iris-cv2ef]

this honestly was one of the best short docs i've ever seen, really well done

[@cameronempey8350]

True that! I hope this gets lots of awards

[@re_i_gn]

The cinematography is so professional and artistic. It's meant to make you feel the loneliness and dystopian-like atmosphere, so well done.

[@gnvw]

How can her manager or whatever laugh while saying I'm not giving you any free time and that you'll be this tired every day 🤦‍♀️

[@greyhausewood5358]

You know what, even though she will be being so tired for a long time, but they both have an acknowdgement that they can make money through this, which is desperate and heartbroken, but it is still much better than making 600 dollars a month while still being tired.

[@greyhausewood5358]

I feel sad for her, even for her manager (I won't see she live a happy life by pushing this girl).

[@jzesu9889]

I thought it was a sarcastic friendly laugh, you can see the girl also smiling. I don't know about others but a lot of people tend to laugh to cope with problems, I and people around me also joke about hard things we are about to face. Like when my friends and I laugh about how hard an upcoming exam is and worry about whether we studied enough or not so we just laugh about it as an outlet due to the nervousness.

[@ac444]

i was thinking that since the manager has to follow her schedule too that she was trying to say that they'll both be tired. sucks either way tho

[@happynealltdpolly]

to me it sounded like a demonic laugh..

[@archdetective]

The last scene encapsulates the episode really well. Feels so dystopian.

[@balinttoth9287]

Am I the only one getting Black Mirror vibes?

[@dariabumkhuu9841]

Was thinking exact same thing

[@daniellai7712]

The social credit system and the massive surveillance… lol China is a poster child of dystopian society

[@balinttoth9287]

@@daniellai7712 So true. That country is perfect dystopia-fiction material.

[@空戰英豪-簡柏丞]

A group of people who have never been to our country Say that we are dystopia-fiction Keep making rumors. We don't care

[@clearwashere]

@@空戰英豪-簡柏丞 It's because it really seems like it to outsiders like us. We couldn't imagine living like this.

[@justineleconte]

This seems like a system which puts humanity (and human feelings) aside for pure profit. What could possibly go wrong with that business model... 😣

[@junglecat_rant]

@Oli Yes, sadly it is.

[@dfjulesful]

Hi Justine! Totally agree it's pure exploitation

[@potteninttent]

that's exactly what I was thinking... every day things get more artificial and artificial, and people more and more depressed.

[@bloodycinephile]

That's capitalism.

[@Spider-Too-Too]

strong man creates good time good time creates simp

[@Bangel911]

4:34 The saying on the wall, "Go Bigger or go Home" is a little disturbing. I don't like it at all. Original saying is "Go Big or go Home". But on the wall of this company, it says 'bigger' as if going 'big' is not enough. It fosters an unhealthy attitude to reach for endless ambition and determination which is not good and not possible. Working hard and having ambition is good but within the limits of the human body. The body and soul need rest and balance. Working tirelessly and endlessly is not something to be proud of if you are sacrificing more than what your end goal is worth.

[@servantofChrist3]

👏 Well said…

[@sintura]

it may have been an incidental thing but i agree with u

[@Chennyixuann]

I honestly agree, but as a person who grew up in china, 99% chance it's just a grammar mistake. But still, that 1% scares me

[@findinglela]

@@sintura yes

[@domtamu6179]

same thoughts

[@ZeJaegerbomb]

She probably doesn't even know that her company sent hot sauce to this guy. And he cherishes it like a treasure... so sad :(

[@joannalok9833]

I know this main girl Jin He through a singing competition in 2018. I showed her this video and she told me that this was filmed back in 2017. She's actually very successful now. She's being invited as a guest artist to a lot of major events in China and doing photo shoots for major brands like Clinique

[@perfectstudents8361]

Are you sure? There are many Chinese with the same name. NY Times is a reputable company and may not release old videos.

[@joannalok9833]

@@perfectstudents8361 I'm pretty sure. I met her in-person and she looks just like the girl in the video. I showed her the video and she also confirmed

[@onceonce0256]

does she have Instagram?

[@simsalabin2796]

Nice to see she is doing great now! I tried to google her but could not find her anywhere, only one video of her singing back in 2018. If you know anything related to her, I would like to see! She is so beautiful!

[@ninjaporkbuns]

@@perfectstudents8361 the slideshow also mentions 2017 at @5.42

[@kiky.mp4]

Not everyone's ready to hear this, but, this is literally the K-pop industry

[@sweettea3879]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@manfunny917]

Agree, Japanese idol industry even worse.

[@amp-le4699]

True. It's a good thing that idols are becoming more honest nowadays, though. Probably because the industry has been around for a while

[@drewella3219]

not just idol. if you see someone market themselves on social media, sell merch and open patreon or some kind of subscription, theyre basically the same. we are all consumer no matter how we feel superior over other genres of entertainment.

[@kiky.mp4]

@@drewella3219 You're right, to a certain extent. We are all consumer of each other's products. But the Industry that we're highlighting here is taking this form of consumerism into another level of fanaticism.

[@kiaradenese1272]

This video reminds me of the KPOP industry. It’s exactly like this yet fans wants to deny it. Now the KPOP idols have become a little more honest with what’s going on behind the scenes and stuff but they still have to go through fans admiring them so much that they think they have a special connection or relationship with them. It’s sad.

[@ssc6386]

Kpop is a bit more multifaceted as an industry, but the delusional/obsessive fans are similar

[@teti9087]

Yes.. the Kpop industry is so toxic everyone knows.. but no one is ready to have that conversation

[@littlefever9410]

Yes. This very much reminds me of VLIVE. Apparently some groups are forced to do VLIVE by their managers instead of them willingly doing it to meet the fans.

[@selty]

They are all forced to do lives. Is why 70% of lives feel soulless.

[@MuandingsHyper]

Lol “have been a little honest” 🤡 i think more so they are being allowed to be a little more honest because of new trends their agency wants them to opt for vulnerability of self and mental health etc as these two are current trends. No way k pop artists gonna expose themselves like that 🤡😂.

[@maimeooww_]

12:12 this part feels like you're watching some black mirror scenes waiting to unravel epic moments after

[@thecheekychinaman6713]

The editing and presentation on this is award winning.

[@unaimateo]

Specially the dystopic china filter.

[@andij605]

I wasn't even surprised it was funded by Denmark, Danish movies look similar lol

[@thatotau7478]

Music score too. We will see movies like this in cinemas soon

[@garychrome1027]

Like a movie.

[@JazzyCast]

Also the chilling part of it is that the fans are thinking they have a special relationship with the streamer, it's more like how a deranged fan in any fandom thinks that recieving a signed copy from a celeb means they now have a real relationship with them ....it's freaking me out, it's weird. Not only are the men in this video in this deranged mindset but the company for profiting off of such derange-ness and insecurities

[@freesxsoccer]

Feel like it really depresses me. Seems like our generation is much more lonely than previous ones

[@foggyfrogy]

Companies are profiting of people's loneliness and specially of chinese men struggle to find a female partner. One could say ,,yeah whatever, this men are stupid" but I think it's too easy to say this without taking in consideration what loneliness can do with your brain. It can even drive you crazy and this men see this women as their savior , even if they now they're fake, who make their life more enjoyable... To be fair I don't think this is a topic that most women will understand. In most cultures it's not the norm for us to make the first move in a relationship. Being the one approaching the other gender requires to be confident, having good social skills (with women), being good story tellers, often having money, status and also being good looking.... You can't learn this all without making mistakes, it's just not realistic,...but nowadays we can't make mistakes on a social level ...'cause the other person can expose your failure immediately, for everyone to see. Why taking all the effort on a stranger when you can "have" someone online giving you everything you want without having to embarrass yourself?!

[@JazzyCast]

@@foggyfrogy Yea, true af. That's why i added that companies are profiting from people's insecurities

[@oneofthosemoments4564]

@@foggyfrogy most of these men, and I met some, believe they are above women in at least a few aspects, which is what really disables them from having a partner. They think real women are too ugly, or smart, or not behaved well. It really doesn't take much to find a partner, if only you're a decent being and look for someone that is actually at 'your level' (which is usually at least 4 times lower than what you think it is). You can't get in any relationship if you don't have social skills, that's just how it is. It's not strictly women, it's friends, buisness partners, neighbours and family also. It's really not that serious. Adults are adults, their doings shouldn't be excused.

[@foggyfrogy]

@@oneofthosemoments4564 I think that's a result from being sucked into this fake relationships and being rejected in real life. If you ask a woman how they categorize themselves, she will humble herself and say average (but it's not what she really thinks) while a man often will give his honest opinion and see himself as above average. What I'm trying to say is that human's tend to see themselves as something special and if their surroundings don't see it this way that this often leads to them giving humanity/men/women the fault for it. I'm not saying I like this kind of people ...I don't!...but I somehow understand how they come to the conclusion...I'm also am one of the few people in my surroundings that call women out for saying ,,all men are trash" because ... let's be honest, it's very similar to this situation. You had one bad encounter and therefore everyone with the same genitals are the same.... it's stupid in my opinion. But more disgusting is companies profiting out of this feelings and making sure (in this case) the genders keep hating each other

[@Beautybeyondashes]

My heart breaks for her. You can tell she’s depressed and her managers are only in it for the profit. So sad

[@perfectstudents8361]

The managers are also under pressure by the owner to push the girls to their limits, so as to bring in more money for the company.

[@luigil8439]

At least she makes some money. I'm truly sad for the guy that thinks she is her friend, spending TONS of money, while being exploited. In a country that is by no means rich. What a wreck...

[@Kazu19]

What about the girl? What do you think she signed up for if not the profit?

[@joannalok9833]

I know this main girl Jin He through a singing competition in 2018. I showed her this video and she told me that this was filmed back in 2017. She's actually very successful now. She's being invited as a guest artist to a lot of major events in China and doing photo shoots for major brands like Clinique

[@luigil8439]

@@joannalok9833 How do you have a KZbin channel since 3 years if KZbin is banned in China?

[@aqsaazam3785]

Absolutely disgusting how that talent manager laughed while telling how Jin isn't get holidays for the "holiday" season. And how Jin got a call being reprimanded after she showed up on Livestream not looking the best. And why in the world did the livestreaming entrepreneur think this would be a good idea is beyond me.

[@vawangq2713]

"She makes me feel warm and I think the feeling is mutual". Aww, I feel bad for the disillusioned livestreaming fans.

[@ememememem592]

Yea, they’re being taken advantage of as well and they need therapy ASAP.

[@manuelfigueiredo8986]

I don't. I feel repulsed for both parties. It's like these people haven't left their house for one minute in their lives

[@heltershelter7835]

Literally every simp out there

[@freesxsoccer]

OK they’re definitely simps but I still think we can feel bad for them. At the end of the day they’re probably just really lonely

[@KlobTwit]

@@manuelfigueiredo8986 have you dude? lmao this has existed in various forms in almost every civ. i mean i would understand if you are a edgy kid but icon worship aint nothing new lmao

[@julchenmariabeilschmidt6760]

12:01 she literally looks so empty in that part :( She's so beautiful and talented, I hope one day she can finally find happiness that doesn't drain her so much

[@wisteria6544]

Agreed 🤗. I hope she travels further down the journey of self fulfillment. It seems she’s at a plateau right now, but I believe in us all.

[@staletale924]

Drain gang 🤤

[@Logic807]

She's so beautiful and talented --. like the many you too are "deranged"

[@julchenmariabeilschmidt6760]

@@Logic807 yikes just say ur jealous and move on

[@fluffyseal8782]

U can tell that someone is empty inside just by looking at them in a video for a few seconds? WOW impressive

[@yes6268]

I was a streamer for 7 years, did like dancing and chatting and silly stuff and eventually some nudity. But the hardest part of it was gaining relationships with these people that I truly starting caring for, and them truly starting to love you and feel a connection but it's all phony... It makes you feel so strange and dishonest, it's a weird world we live in with tech. It eventually became so emotionally draining that I had to stop.

[@yes6268]

because most of my "fans" were the same few people for years. They even became good friends with each other and still are to this day.

[@sisamusudroka3000]

Links or it didn’t happen

[@xedn]

@@yes6268 u sold ur soul

[@user-su2cf2mz7r]

@@sisamusudroka3000 not the time

[@user-su2cf2mz7r]

@@nexustom5823 that’s kinda suspicious

[@NA-OK23]

The last scene is just shot so well, I’m speechless.

[@ClamorDiGilgamesh]

I find it ironic, how in the past women trained in these small talents such as singing and playing instruments to appease men, for various reasons depending on the culture. Now they're still doing that, only over the internet.

[@uwu-px9ot]

Ikr , even tho the technology and science has evolved alot but yet the attitude of human to things or situations are the same

[@toasterbath6997]

Ikr

[@nocksar744]

@@BoraniumArt empathise on the "we", as in both women and men, are flawed

[@oneofthosemoments4564]

these talents aren't "small", considering that people made their livelyhood from them since old ages. Music and instruments in most cultures were a thing to do as a group used for entertainment, since there weren't many sources of it. Actually, like anything else, men were the ones mostly playing and singing at first. This is a buissness which is more acting than anything else. I don't think the comparation you made was a correct one

[@schrodingers_gat]

turns out men are just as gullible as ever and will pay women for even the smallest semblance of company - even if it’s virtual 😳

[@Spookymylk]

I want to give everyone in this documentary a hug. They need one.

[@LikeABistro]

I know the talents signed up for this, but I don’t want to hug the manager and the people driving these talents to depletion.

[@bymarcissus]

I feel sad for them 😭

[@tmdngs]

They will do it for a small donation

[@Ryker150]

You have to send a donation first

[@CRANEREVIEWS]

@@Ryker150 many donations and no hug xD

[@theonewhocomments]

Idk if it's because the topic and people in it are so interesting, but the way this doc is shot is like a feature film. Really well done.

[@SpaceKarenMonkeyKiller]

The ENTIRE point of livestreaming is so that anyone can easily do it alone and whenever they want with just a cellphone and without the need of working a job or having a boss. I don't understand how livestream companies are even a thing. The only thing I can think of is maybe some people don't know how to get started so they seek help from a company but I fail to see how that company can retain employees after the streamer learns the trade and accumulates a fanbase then just leaves to do it by themselves.

[@daikonnene8728]

They usually are starting as a small live streamer and the company spots them and hire them some of them get offered by a close friend or something like that it's tough

[@inversionist5928]

Look at vtuber company like hololive. Like Daikon said most of the ppl started as a small streamer that have a hard time to grow, so a company offered them a contract,then said streamer get more publicity and better equipment to stream

[@ev2175]

DIRTY CONTRACTS

[@sugakookies8063]

The reason they stay is because if they try to leave, they have to pay an enormous fee (stupid contracts)

[@Tariphilip]

@@sugakookies8063 Yes. Same with some writing sites owned by these sort of people. You will also have to pay for all legal fees during thr process

[@Bet0usky99]

It's so well made that it almost doesn't look real

[@swarajkanr]

I don't know how they really 'showed' us the characters, as if it was a movie. I'm awestruck!

[@Santiino]

Well they made it really dramatic to be fair

[@NeostormXLMAX]

probably fake this is from 2017 tbh, stuff explainde is real but everything is exaggerated

[@ongakira]

@@NeostormXLMAX no it’s probably real

[@asatorftw]

Social Media is the worst invention of our times.

[@Vale-nh6ey]

I just feel so sad for the kids who believe that they have a genuine relationship with her, specially the one with the sauce that said he felt like she thought of him like a friend, I really hope that they are able to make a genuine connection with someone that actually cares about them. And I also feel so bad for the streamer, she looks so depressed, what a disgusting industry

[@ninjaahjumma]

Jin He is her company’s most successful and profitable talent, but she looks so deeply unhappy. Every time she smiles, it never reaches her eyes. And in that last shot of her, she looks so sick and tired that even a small gust of wind will knock her down. And then she gets that phone call from her boss/handler. Even the documentarian felt the need to ask her if she was okay. Poor girl. Her work environment is so toxic and abusive.

[@avap5175]

China’s work culture is like that for any industry. There is no work life balance!

[@nsebast]

@@avap5175 Well she is earning lots of money probably $100K each year at the least. The price of high earning, or she can just quit her job and earn little but more relaxing. Life is a choice. Why blame China for it?

[@ezioauditore5616]

@@avap5175 that girl is getting more than 70k a month, there are worst job than that and lower pay and more dangerous, street cleaners etc

[@clowve]

Ezio Auditore I think you have it wrong. She rakes in 70-100k a month but as an "employee" she isn't earning that much.

[@avap5175]

@@nsebast I don't think you quite understood the intent of my comment. China is known in the world as having a 9-9-6 work schedule. That means you work from 9 am to 9 pm, 6 days of week - across most industries (unless you're self-employed). It is not necessarily a bad thing - Chinese people have a strong work ethic too.

[@beec6801]

This is so creepy. It makes me uncomfortable to see streaming, something that was initially used for genuine human connections and authenticity, get turned into a money making machine. Using fake books to dupe fans is just so gross. Nothing against the girls who are a part of this and obviously many other aspects of the world are for soulless profit, but the way this whole thing was filmed puts it in perspective. Of course even youtube alone is often just a money making machine, but this was a level of that I haven't been familiar with until now. Yes, virtual relationships can be valuable, but it unsettles me to see some people prioritize them over real human connections. Especially when these fans are in turn only considered profits and ways to make money. I'm honestly struggling to even put into words how uncomfortable this makes me feel!

[@ikaramelya]

There's no problem in supporting a person you admire online when they're honest and genuine The problem here is their whole persona is fake and geared towards making people spend on them it's like they are using a toxic formula to drain people off of their money on purpose

[@beec6801]

@@ikaramelya I agree, but I do think the genuine people are rare these days

[@claudine8140]

I dont see anything wrong if you're more comfortable with virtual relationships tho rather than person-to-person contact, that's another topic of its own. Altho yes, this type of livestreaming industry can be problematic and fake.

[@beec6801]

@@claudine8140 virtual relationships can definitely be healthy and a good way to socialize depending on the situation, but i think it really relies on so many factors. not every situation is the same. i think what is most concerning is that these days most people cant tell the difference between healthy ones and toxic ones, and i dont just mean toxic people, but toxic behavior when it comes to being a fan of someone. there is also a lack of good faith criticism of influencers. online personalities are deemed as either someone perfect to worship, which is the problem here in this video, or they are just completely cancelled. in reality most people should be viewed as somewhere in the middle. having a person on a pedestal to this level isnt healthy for you or the influencer and it just creates toxic and fake environments, as shown here.

[@bloodymry]

i'm always horrified at how capitalism can make almost anything into a money-making machine... it's bizarre and extremely sad to see how it can apply to new social dynamics and technology

[@laourse1751]

"Go bigger or go home" is so dystopia-like.

[@swisstrader]

How sad is it with the guy who says we are so emotionally connected, between he and a live streamer. The minute he cuts off that money and stop sending checks, let’s see how deep the love relationship is.

[@jchen8902]

It's not even the streamer's fault. She has thousands of fans and she needs to cater to them all. It's because so many people on earth are lonely and desperate for human interaction that this industry exists.

[@scarface11991]

@@jchen8902 I wonder though if a person is so lonely why not make a profile on an actual Dating App where you can meet actual people who also look for someone?

[@usernamesarehard5884]

@@scarface11991 Likely due to fear of rejection and people online not meeting their expectations. The streamer has to be nice to them or is inclined to be nice and submissive as they are getting paid.

[@gabriieIl]

they’ve taken the soul out of livestreaming. now it’s just deadstreaming.

[@kurttinawin2420]

This deserves way more likes

[@evilskwerl]

The thing that strikes me is just how unhappy she actually looks. I don’t think she cracked a genuine smile at any point. It’s intriguing to get a glimpse behind the scenes and how it’s become another “factory style” industry for them. For some I guess it’s a legitimate way to fund their goals but at what cost, not just to the streamer but to the donating fans and all involved.

[@iBeFloe]

I mean being told how to act is pretty exhausting compared to other streamers that act freely

[@evilskwerl]

@@iBeFloe I just wonder if the sacrifice on mental and physical health is worth it for them. And /or this is their only option. Obviously it’s less pay then getting a regular job and a menial salary but if that job made you happier in life, wouldn’t it be worth doing rather than slaving away to the streaming machine? Ofcourse I don’t know what personal circumstances these people have in their life but I was just curious.

[@TrangNguyen-si9kz]

insightful, thought-provoking, and touching, thank you for the work that gives me a deep view of the world of some streamers. This short film really makes me think about how relationships in today's social work. I still find myself struggling every day to connect with people around me, it seems that social media truly redefine the definitions of relationships.

[@putrikania6196]

Yeaaaah, things like this makes me grateful I have my 9 to 5 job. Two days off in the weekend. That girl looks so tired and listless, catering to her fans almost 24/7 she has no privacy at all.

[@toanmitran1491]

But she can retire when she earn enough, we who have 9-5 job cant do that.

[@syasyaishavingfun]

@@toanmitran1491 being able to retire is not about how much money you can make, but about how much money you can save. For example, a lot of athletes make millions but after their career they become bankrupt simply because they never know how to save and spend money unwisely. If you are in 9-5, you should also be able to save money and retire comfortably if you consistently save money/ put them in mutual fund/buy land/house.

[@skyh3r0es]

i wouldnt mind if i can get a $30.000 a month

[@userworldwide]

Wishing her she'll become a real full-time singer one day. Her voice is really beautiful, even without music (while walking on the streets) she sounds amazing.

[@PassionPno]

She is a full-time singer now. This was filmed in 2017.

[@userworldwide]

@@PassionPno had no idea! Thanks sm I'll search for her!

[@Hexavash]

I think sadly that this type of thing also happens to many musicians as well. I hope that she found a good producer and it all worked out though.

[@RGMRT]

I always remind myself that no matter how good internet is, nothing can replace experiencing the real world.

[@robertbanys]

Not just yet, eventually it will come one day, perhaps not in our life times but it will come

[@TheMapleleague]

Really interested in what kind of cut the streaming company takes from her USD 30-45k in donations each month. If she gets to keep even 10% of that figure, that's actually quite a decent wage for China.

[@banshee1133]

She deserves more than 10% though

[@TheMapleleague]

@@banshee1133 Yeah, for sure only 10% would be a really unfairly low cut. It wouldn't surprise me though if that is what she's getting, due to how scummy and exploitative these agencies can be in general.

[@kABUSE1]

It was said that in the beginning she's gotten minimum wage of $120. It wouldn't surprise me much if it maybe tripled since then. We are talking china after all.

[@知-k3q]

@@kABUSE1 $120 is a live broadcast, right? It is impossible to be exposed to the media with such a low salary, and people from the industrial and commercial bureau and the labor service bureau will be fined more than 100 times.😆Because I am a civil servant of the industrial and commercial bureau, I like such company very much, and I will get some kickbacks when I am fined ~🥹

[@GeorgesThoughts]

what a depressing vibe, something I've noticed as well.. all the interiors in every shot are so dark and dimly lit with no sunlight. Dystopian lighting vibes

[@jessicaqu]

She’s not tired. She’s lonely and depressed.

[@samaraisnt]

and tired.

[@LordFreya-uz4bo]

lonely and depressed can lead to tiredness... and vice versa... you know that right?

[@almaarea]

Existential tiredness. The kind of tired that sleep doesn't fix.

[@elmaschimba963]

High functioning depression

[@arami187]

She's too pretty to be those things. 🤣

[@evanchen4706]

"Things in Black Mirror aren't gonna 'come', they creep in slowly." I used to expect things like the movie Her will someday drop like a big new tech product, but no, it's already here, and it's even more subtle and grey and alien.

[@daniellai7712]

Adding social credit system

[@gilliandaemon1788]

by the end of it I had my eyes glued to the screen, then when her manager called at the last shot, it was really heart wrenching.

[@hydroaegis6658]

Want to see a dystopia? Here's a window.

[@iamdmc]

China is one long dystopian play

[@空戰英豪-簡柏丞]

Keep making rumors. We don't care

[@tristynschmidt1094]

@@空戰英豪-簡柏丞 ok ding long jing

[@UniqPtr]

@@空戰英豪-簡柏丞 dystopia is more like a cyberpunk world. where I think both China and the US is heading

[@t4yl0rswifti39]

@@tristynschmidt1094 Hey you didn't really need to say that

[@angelene7281]

She's working 24/7, she deserves to rest as well. Heartless manager.

[@mooncake4371]

I hope that this livestreaming thing helps her become a mainstream singer. She has a beautiful voice and she’s beautiful as well. She deserves better than this. She looks really sad, and I hope she doesn’t do anything to harm herself. We didn’t even get to hear her thoughts on her job. I really hope she can get out of this.

[@tiff8346]

This speaks volumes, about the entertainment industry, about isolation and technology.

[@sqoishicasette]

"Some of you are pretty"... "Some of you aren't that pretty" ... WHAT??? imagine the toll it takes on their self worth and confidence... For life

[@shurik3nz346]

It’s not about self worth, it’s about how much money they from using her.

[@adenwu7846]

It's ironic comic from her

[@GeekDetour]

Well, that's professional cruelty. BUT, in real life, the same thing is discretely said, all the time, spontaneously. We are bad monkeys.

[@momiji7789]

I think it wasn't malicious, it was just a reality check for some of them, if you're not the prettiest in an industry that needs you to be pretty, then that means you gotta be smarter to bring out the patron money or offer something they don't.

[@fannyholmberg6597]

There's really no need to say the "you are not pretty"-part. She could have continued with the "some of you have beautiful feautures"-thing and then added "some of you are more like me, not ultra-blessed by the gene-gods". I know some of you think this is sugar coating but there is nothing wrong with being kind and considerate of other peoples feelings.

[@russelnarciso2705]

She had an emotional breakdown and seriously tired what the heck. Just look at her eyes bruh and you will see it.

[@Alia-bc3rc]

"Others of you aren't very pretty. You might opt to go out for innocent style." This is literally parasocial relationship being an industry. Also, WTF.

[@timmycho3191]

Hey money speaks

[@durivian]

i scrolled to see if anyone had pointed that out - a disgusting thing to say to these young girls

[@magahongkong4664]

It's a direct way to speak the truth but they could twist it by saying: "some of you are pretty so you could maximize that potential while others are less pretty but unique in a different way should go for some other routes like performing innocent style. But in this industry, yall see most of these girls are newly joined so they are being trained. Sometimes they think they are pretty but they don't know about the market definition of pretty. The boss was just being direct and honest so that the girls can maximize their potentials instead of carelessly act on their own naive minds.

[@oOo-dj7pt]

@Mr. Pipol They drain the health of these girls to drain the bank accounts of their people.

[@oOo-dj7pt]

@Mr. PipolIt is damaging for the brain to work without sleep.

[@aravindajaykumar7884]

The last minute of the video was just heartbreaking to see. Really Hope she finds her happiness some day.

[@purbatreasure]

As long as streamers/ content creators have control over their own content, the quality and their health is fine. But the companies force the creators with such unrealistic expectations, its ridiculous.

[@silicabraille]

And then there's hololive a vtuber idol streaming agency......pubic removal hair streams goes brrr

[@obsidianstatue]

LOL, The horror film saturation level and filters are here. NYT should branch into horror genre.

[@zipit7089]

The lives of those live-streamers are far more horrific than those horror movies lol Reel versus real

[@turtlesoup8134]

@@zipit7089 You want horror? Live streaming is a heaven compared to the live of delivery guys that makes way less money and work much harder. Don't feel pity of these streamers. They know they earn much more than the average people and they chose to be there. These people makes up a very small percentage of the society and are considered elites. Its tough to make money in China but I feel pity for the bottom 50%, not the top 10%. They want to be top 1%, they better know what is sacrifice and competition.

[@yega3k]

The NYT’s ability to do this is the most terrifying thing about this documentary for me tbh. Not saying the subject is having the time of her life or anything, but there are tons of regular 9 to 5 jobs across the globe that will drain you just as much. That said, I hope they use the same filters when they do a documentary on OnlyFans. That should be interesting.

[@turtlesoup8134]

@@yega3k Story telling is the basic competency of a propaganda machine, its got nothing to do with the truth. NYT is truly formidable propaganda machine.

[@calfagra]

@@turtlesoup8134 yeah right, I watched day in a life of courier delivery. It's looks fun but tiring on the video. But they make it the video by themselves. imagine if NYT make a video about them. People might depressed from something that could actually fun.

[@waterfoker8558]

10:12 this boy is so deprived of real love, attention, and care, that is so sad to see him unknowingly compare a virtual connection to real life friends...

[@kimli3254]

I think this is the first short I've watched that literally turns sadness into a spectacle of itself. As in, I do feel sad for all the characters but somehow I am now even more interested.

[@pianoonparade]

I'm really heartbroken for her, by the end of it she looked so lifeless. I don't think either parties are to blame to be honest. Streaming is filling a niche that is becoming increasingly bigger as time goes on, where the internet connect but disconnects at the same time. Her fans are lonely people who have other priorities (usually the rat race) but still desire the feelings of an intimate relationship. So they tell themselves the feelings are legitimate and attempt to validate it by pouring more money into the stream. On the other hand you have people like Jin who came in to the industry with hopes and dreams but were told that this career is more lucrative or, at the very least, plausible. She's worked to the bone day in and day out with no way of creating and maintaining genuine relationships of her own so eventually she becomes a mirror of her fans. She turns to them to give her validation that what she's doing is right, that she really does and can form genuine connections. It's all quite dystopian, really.

[@xiaoshuangyang507]

I am Chinese, and I used to be a live-streamer, of course a small one, it’s not that complicated… but it’s also stressful, people you don’t know at all are looking at you and you need to say things that make them feel comfortable and then you can finally get a few gifts, there are a lot of people who just watch and don’t give you any gifts

[@caiyuhui]

你的意思是“白嫖”是吧？哈哈

[@Mikasaxx0]

Well that's what youtubers are

[@kyle3513]

@@Mikasaxx0 there are many types of youtubers

[@huas5350]

The New York Times has the ability to tell stories with clear themes, tortuous plots and three-dimensional characters, which is comparable to that of Hollywood. Give you a thumb!

[@jojo7323]

yes. The ending of this video is a good closure.

[@paladinhansen137]

They also have an uncanny ability to lose massive defamation lawsuits

[@ryanwong4311]

@@lililucy2155 Don't see any narrative here...

[@AndyS789]

@@ryanwong4311 They don't need to say anything to have a narrative, it's all about what they are showing, how they are showing and what they cut out of the video.

[@obsidianstatue]

The low saturation, and grey filters present a dystopian vibe. This is done so the documentary can lead you down a certain conclusion. But when you think about it, are they any worse than working as a waitress or at a factory and earn a fraction of what they earn as a streamer? Of course not, but the color palette and music made you think it is worse. If one side is willing and is able to spend, and the other provides a service their customers want, then what's the problem? Things like a Japanese man marrying a virtual girl friend or is in a serious relationship with a body pillow, people associate that with the weird and wonderful Japanese culture. Or when talking about the rise of the simp culture in the USA, it's filled with memes and is seen as a quirky sideshow of the American society. But when something similar happens in China, it's presented literally as the digital dystopia. So yes, NYT is definitely good at story telling, but not so much on presenting an unbiased story.

[@bibirb7086]

"It's my heart that feels tired" I- I hope she doesn't have to do this anymore one day

[@bonkmaster69]

"Once we've made enough money, we can rest"- like that's ever gonna happen!

[@rosalynredwood4542]

'actually it's my heart which is tired'.... The first girl has such a good voice but she looks so drained...bless everyone who are tired n lonely ..the ending touched my heart oh God...

[@lwendt220]

I just wanted to give her a hug at the end of this video. How tragic. That company she works for is soulless and shady af. Hope things have been better for her in the time after this was filmed...

[@artbyxrdh]

It’s sad that we don’t see her interact or have any communication with anyone outside of the live-streaming, whether it’s her agent or fans. That’s the part I find so isolating

[@dirrald6532]

“wow jin he has read so many foreign books” “they’re all fake”

[@hardcoreemomusicgurl]

As much as the industry is exploitative and soul less, i have to say that being workers of different industries all face this kind of mental, emotional and physical tiredness and pain. That is the sad part.

[@babygirl-nl4im]

no this is geograpgically and sector dependent. the entertainment industry, especially in china, isnt equatable to my software engineering job where i get into work at 9 maybe even later depending how long i work, to a big beautiful building with free snacks, drinks, and coworkers; i also have weeks of vacation time, weekends off, company events and trips, bonuses, and stocks. she hasnt had a day off in months and is forced to behave a certain way and produce an image for her company... this isn’t normal

[@TytoAlpha]

@@babygirl-nl4im Good for you. A very very small percentage of working people have all the perks you enjoy. The soul-crushing aspect of work IS normal and it’s not isolated to China.

[@syasyaishavingfun]

@@babygirl-nl4im your privelage is showing. Most people can't work in IT or finance.

[@mochabear1097]

My question is what if they fans find out about this documentary and learnt that those books are FAKE...

[@mkultra7760]

Fake it until you "make" it got another "dimension"

[@lewistian7975]

China cant access the NYT lol. Also, those big books are obviously fake, the fans choose to see what they want to see

[@Joshow313]

They don’t care about the fake books. They are already enamored with her so all is forgiven lol

[@perfectstudents8361]

Even in the US, those fake books are available for sale. Some people buy them for decoration.

[@drww1]

i guess they'll have to mix in real with fake to pass it off

[@bymarcissus]

I can’t imagine the pressure, stressed they have . They must be depressed. I feel sad for them.

[@rachelshuxin]

Her voice is actually very beautiful

[@6ixlxrd]

Everyone’s talking about her, but what about the audience she targets? Take a moment to think about it: there’s legit a COMPANY out there that has made an entire business model centered around using the psychological evaluations of lonely online men to make a profit. That’s scary. It’s basically digital seduction.

[@benjidalton3643]

They’re giving money to her because they want to. She’s slaving away at a camera because she was earning less than $150 a month before this. Those men are very lonely, but they do what they do out of their own free will.

[@6ixlxrd]

@@benjidalton3643 That would be the case…if she herself was “slaving away” because she wanted to. This isn’t something she’s doing for fun out of the kindness of her heart; this is legit a no-nonsense business model and skillset she had rigorously drilled into her for months by a shady company seeking to make a profit. These men are evaluated psychologically and are being targeted and manipulated by countless women like her without any knowledge or awareness. As I said before; that’s scary. To what extent are their decisions being influenced? To her this is a career choice (one that she later walked away from since she’s doing MUCH better as a model and spokeswoman). For the audience she targeted, it’s more of a mental illness than anything, something they should seek professional therapy for.

[@6ixlxrd]

@@benjidalton3643 Thank you. Exactly. They’re just as trapped as she is, technically more, which is my entire point. Everyone’s acting like she’s the only victim here (even you initially tried it) when her literal *JOB* is to prey on victims. This is something she’s doing to make a check; this is something she was taught how to do. I’m not saying her making $150 a month wasn’t terrible, but I’m not about to pretend that her alternative isn’t worse. Secretly manipulating and taking advantage of lonely men in need of psychological help is a CHOICE that she decided to make because it’s a choice that earned her a high profit. Men with issues are just a money sign to her and to people like her…men with issues are a money sign to an entire company which revolves around creating more women like her to take advantage or more men in need of therapy. As I said before; that’s scary. Taking advantage of mental problems is now a marketable career choice. Digital seduction.

[@MetalizedButt]

@@benjidalton3643 then she is doing this out of her own will too. nobody is forcing her to. we can’t have double standards.

[@MetalizedButt]

@@benjidalton3643 You really believe the $120 thing? Nah bro lol, that’s too low a salary, clearly exaggerated. And there are plenty of other jobs available with decent pay if she looks hard enough. Nobody’s forcing her to do this, she does so out of her own will because of the money, and I don’t blame her one bit. I’d do it for 30k a month as well, no doubt. But stop making her seem like a victim. Neither she nor the lonely men donating to her are victims, they make their own choices willingly.