SOPHIA BUSH Talks About the Toxic Environment & Workplace Harassment on ONE TREE HILL

[@mikinhalingeron]

I feel so bad for what they went through. If they hadn't created the podcast about OTH I'd still think they hated the show. That makes it easier for us fans to still support it and rewatch it. They have good memories too despite Mark.

[@annarother7085]

That's exactly how I've felt! The show meant so much to me when I was in HS and when I heard of all the horrible things ***** did I got so upset and felt like I couldn't rewatch it or it somehow had to mean less now because I adore these women so much (they're literally part of the reason the show meant so much to me) and I felt so terrible for what they had to go through. It felt really nice to listen to the podcast and listen to their actual stories and that despite it all they had good memories on it.

[@lucashenderson2775]

@@annarother7085 That sentence where you talk about what it meant to you growing up, that's probably the other big reason they'll always love the show aside from the bond they had with their fellow cast and crew. They know their show helped a generation of kids realize they weren't alone in their struggle to grow up and come of age. The fan support gave them strength through their experiences working with that asshole the same way the show helped you as a kid.

[@izabelaR]

For me the weirdest thing is, I only started watching the show early last year, and then not long after I saw all this shit come up, and it was weird watching it at the same time as knowing what happened to them in real life. So glad these guys are getting exposed. Sad to think there's been so many victims of this shit for so long in the industry.

[@annarother7085]

@Ask Scott A few years ago a lot of women who worked on the show exposed M*ark/the creator for being abusive.

[@jillreys6159]

What’s the podcast?

[@karabellaellaellaella]

He didn't want them to be comparing notes about him - what he's done to who, etc. Classic psychopathic and abuser behavior. I am rewatching One Tree Hill not for him but for the cast and crew. I am rewatching because it got me through tough times in my life and revisiting these characters heals me somehow.

[@izabelaR]

The older shows have this cozy feeling about them. I only started watching the show early last year. I've re-watched other old shows for that cozy feeling, like Charmed and Gilmore Girls. Or maybe it's just because they remind us of times when we were young watching the shows.

[@shelby4771]

Because he knows how powerful women can be when they work together and support each other. He had to tear down and isolate his greatest threat! Ha jokes on him cuz they're bffs. It is sad, like Sophia said, that they lost those years together though being pitted against each other and isolated.

[@jwilliams2294]

@@izabelaR nostalgia for me too. Just started OTH again, rewatched Buffy the Vampire Slayer too 😢

[@fernandabluntkrasinski9026]

Your reason is also my reason to rewatch Buffy.. I try to separate the work from the real life's behaviour of tv showrunners

[@nintendosealed]

Yes I've seen this in the workplace. They don't like that you make notes because it comes back on to them.

[@KatVonEMBRYOYO]

Sophia has such a beautiful fascinating and emotive voice. Her acting through voice alone always really impressed me. The way it breaks at points used to literally move me to tears, her use of tone… She’s still as stunning as she was like fifteen years ago when I was watching the show- She always seems to genuine and sweet. It’s bloody awful what we’re finding out went on behind the scenes of our favourite shows, and the shit power hungry narcissists and perverts we’re pulling.

[@heidimcguire5996]

I can’t stand it. Sounds like she has razor blades for breakfast. It’s like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

[@thsu8]

As a guy, Sophia's raspy cheerleader-on-weed voice in The Hitcher was the hottest thing I've ever heard

[@j0ellyfish]

ew.

[@thsu8]

@@j0ellyfish are you gay?

[@j0ellyfish]

@@thsu8 yeah. so gay. I sucked your dad off this morning. his voice was less annoying.

[@wordswrittenbyme2109]

I'm just happy and grateful to the women on set who are coming forward with how things really were. Thankfully because of Sophia Hilary and Joy. OTH as a show and legacy will live on in a positive way thanks to their podcast.

[@matthewjuarbe5826]

not in Hollywood but i seen it first hand on a ultra small indie film i sadly produced. the director and writer really came off as a creep and only was fixated on the sexual aspects of the film. the man actor was almost naked for 90 percent of the film maybe 95 percent and it was really sexual in nature. it felt like his own personal sexual fantasy and i got really uncomfortable. and i ended the business relationship as quickly as i could. but i remember the actress actually saying she doesn't think she wants her family to see it especially her grand mother due to the sexual nature. its really hard you're so passionate you wanna make it in the industry and you almost feel forced to do things outside of your comfort level for that chance that this is the one that will get you notice. cant even imagine what those women faced and men as well but more so the women. alot of people say why didnt they just quit or talked out sooner and its not that simple. we need more people like Sophia Bush to stand up and fight this. so many people stay quiet cause they wanna make it so they dont sell it they keep their heads down and take it. another show she was in Chicago PD she talked about the harsh working conditions and some of the male people on the show and she left. even though the show was hugely popular and im sure she was making decent money from it she took the high ground and put her foot down and left.

[@alycia4668]

Ummm two writers actually exposed Mark. The actresses kept quiet and stayed on the show till the end, and are only coming out now after the fact and after they made their millions.

[@ChristinaTaft]

You are absolutely right?!! It’s wrong to force women to be nude to get lines or to move up which in effect abuses them… it leads to exploitation then of them forced to do this.. and thanks to Michael and Sophia to bringing this to light!

[@rectorsquid]

@@alycia4668 Maybe the actresses kept quiet because of the additional abuse they would get from the public at large. Women too often get called liars even when accusing someone of ill repute. But sure, just make claims that they were in it for the money because that's what everyone is interested in and no one fears for their own career or the public backlash they might get by making accusations. You may as well armchair psychoanalyze them because everyone else would if they spoke up.

[@alycia4668]

@@rectorsquid They stayed on the show until the end and profited from it. They never spoke out. Two writers with so much more to lose were the ones who spoke out and now, years later, these girls are trying to come across as the heroes and get attention for it.

[@sethm3856]

I loved one tree hill, but when I started watching the show back in 2009 I was the same age as the main characters, but I always thought it was weird how Peyton a 15/16/17? year-old came out of Nathans shower in a towel and said Hi to Mr. Scott. Like I thought a lot of the show overly sexualised teens - essentially children - and really normalised that kind of behaviour. And then to years later hear that Hilary felt weird about those scenes as well ...

[@jadedheartsz]

from what i've seen on TikTok this show isn't that far off from reality, if anything it seems tame.

[@1eDITORcHRIS]

@@jadedheartsz tiktok is for entertainment to these kids, so even if some of it reflects true life, we cannot always assume what we see online is their reality

[@notsureiL]

Riverdale, The O.C ? A lot of shows targeted at an younger audience pre-teens and teens sexualies teenager's.

[@I_Don_t_want_a_handle]

Erm, the sexualization of children is a common theme throughout modern history. In the past they were not children, they were adults. Young people with great adult bodies who are prepared to flaunt them will always get an audience. Hollyweird knows this and makes damn good money out of it.

[@jayclearmen411]

@@jadedheartsz facts idk why these ppl are so surprised. the reality of the situation is what no one refuses to acknowledge. it’s normal to lose your V-card an to be having sex around 15,16,17 i mean unless your a late bloomer..in the early 90s-early 2000s teen pregnancy was not totally unheard of or uncommon shit i had 4 pregnant gals in my literacy class

[@undead.rising]

It's hard to imagine Sophia angry, because she has such a calm demeanour about her. It's great that she has been able to stay a nice person given all the shit that she has gone through (her other cast mates and crew too).

[@SilentDanDisney]

Follow her on Twitter she can get pissed off. She played it well as Brooke when she gets pissed.

[@pnksno20]

I still don't understand why this wasn't a bigger story in the mainstream media. I only heard about it online, not on the daily news. I became a fan of OTH just after it went off the air and I love it so much. I got my mom hooked on it as well shortly before she had a stroke and eventually passed away. I will always cherish those memories of binge-watching with her every night and eating junk food but It's so disgusting what the cast and crew had to deal with behind the scenes.

[@zaskarclf]

When you're in the club, you get a pass.

[@Kittiesb4kids]

@@zaskarclf exactly. It's a fucked up business and how many of them are guilty of the same thing? Or worse?

[@gm.8805]

im so sorry for your loss

[@kora4185]

I JUST heard about it!!! Just what the hell…

[@jonjohnson1978.]

Probably becauwe it was a tv show which had long finisved...it should of had more bouse around it though once revealed

[@JadedTomboy]

thing is I love One Tree Hill but I hate the network and the toxic behaviour it makes me sick to my stomach I`m just glad that Sophia finally stood up for herself and the show THANK YOU

[@willn8664]

Michael Rosenbaum doing a better job at interviews than a lot of professional journalists.

[@antoniohoward8529]

Journalists has an agenda. They ask questions just to get clicks or trap them into saying more than they should. This is a conversation

[@paulbrown7933]

that's because there's no such thing as real journalists anymore. Michael isn't out to make a big payday to spread false rumors as the media does 24/7. Michael has already made it big and actually is a genuine guy with a good heart.

[@deacondawg1416]

Because he's the same as those he interviews innit. He's lived it too.

[@paulbrown7933]

@@deacondawg1416 I think it's because he's already made a lot of money he's already a star he's plenty famous and he's plenty filthy Rich he's NOT a media person trying to make a buck by telling a bunch of lies and ruining people's lives he's not out there to GUT people alive he's a good guy TOO he's got a big heart...... MEDIA people all they're out there to do is spread rumors and lies they're out there to make people miserable they don't care about nobody they're not paid to be nice.. that's my perspective on it.

[@deacondawg1416]

@@paulbrown7933 sorry, did I say something that would make you think I wouldn't agree with what you just said. Antonio already made that point I didn't feel the need to write more.

[@guerdynerodriguez2845]

Hearing about this as someone who just recently started watching the show, it’s hard to watch knowing what they went through. I remember hearing about this when it first broke out .. it’s really sick knowing these people continue to work in these jobs. And how many could currently be working right not just in this industry but in other industries. Especially during such a vulnerable time. It’s sick

[@izabelaR]

Yeah I also recently started watching it, early last year actually, and then not long after heard all the shit and couldn't believe how much of a toxic environment they had to work in for us to have such a good show.

[@shelby4771]

BRIGHT side though.... if you keep watching, more money for them! I think he's excluded from OTH royalties but I'd have to double check

[@DungForever]

We need to hold people responsible for their actions and their aggressions. The fact that he continued to work tells me we need to work on eradicating these monsters.

[@MyStylist.Naomi12]

Oh wow, I had NO idea. I was (still am) a huge fan of OTH. I'm really glad they were able to create such amazing content despite all of these completely disgusting and unacceptable circumstances. Wow.... Also I love Sophia Bush

[@bryanaperry8760]

IF you haven't listened to their new OTH re-watch podcast, you totally should.

[@MyStylist.Naomi12]

@@bryanaperry8760 Is that the one she was talking about? Drama queens?

[@anhphi100]

Naomi Horton yes

[@NSDCTwitch]

Sophia Bush was always my favorite on OTH... I am sad to see that the creator gave us such beautiful characters while being a douchebag character himself... Sophia will always be B.Davis to me and she is still as beautiful as always.

[@hawakhalif9142]

Amen such a force in the show!

[@abstractdaddy1384]

I can't believe she's 39. She looks like she could be in her early 20s.

[@essies4294]

She looks good to be sure but not like she is in her early 20s. No honest and observant person would claim that.

[@silje3910]

she looks she is 33 years old

[@brinelson4461]

@@essies4294 As an honest and observant person who has never watched this show/has seen her before, she looks like she's in her early 20s.

[@essies4294]

@@brinelson4461 She looks good but not like a 20 something, which is perfectly fine. I don’t understand why we have to pretend good looking women older than 30 look 21.

[@lostforever773]

Not without makeup

[@KDawnn]

No wonder B.Davis had an obsession with lingerie at 16-17 years old and constantly going to lingerie stores as a child...Mark was an absolute creep🤮🤮🤮

[@MommyHadALittleOne]

Even though this is probably the most grossly under-reported instance of “Me too” I love the fact that his career and overall him being active in Hollywood instantly came to a screeching halt.

[@brerenee5145]

she has not, absolutely not, aged one bit

[@Missjunebugfreak]

She looks the same as she did back in her OTH days. Beautiful woman.

[@aragorniielessar1894]

She looks great, but she clearly have aged.

[@molasorrosalom4846]

That's called professional make up, and good lighting

[@brerenee5145]

@@molasorrosalom4846 oh I’m aware. But she still clearly has amazing genes . Lol

[@brerenee5145]

@@aragorniielessar1894 of course but she has amazing genes is what I was referring to

[@SnowWhiteTheU2]

This dude has some of the best content. I’d love a Sarah Michelle Gellar interview

[@OffshoreITguy]

Just started watching him and it's great.

[@bettername2come]

As someone who watched the show in my teens and early 20s, when I would visit TelevisionWithoutPity boards at the time, everyone there knew Mark Schwahn was super creepy even without knowing the details. It came across especially strong with regard to Hilarie Burton and the character of Peyton, especially when he wrote a character for himself into the show to talk to Peyton and only Peyton.

[@lucashenderson2775]

Yup. Which is why Hilarie left the show the first chance she got, after Season 6. One of the stories I heard was that they shot an episode in Texas because a town had won a contest where they'd shoot an episode there and in the car on the way back to Wilmington after landing, he forced himself on her and that was one of the breaking point incidents that pushed her to leave. There was another thing I heard that Danneel was harassed so badly to the point that when there was a time where Supernatural was on hiatus but OTH was still filming, Jensen lived with her for a month until he had to go back to Vancouver for Supernatural and nearly got into a fight with Mark because of Mark's behavior. Also, Danneel agreed to return in Season 7 for the Rachel and Dan getting married storyline because she saw that she would work in a lot of scenes with Paul Johansson and Paul was known on set for being protective of the women and confronting Mark multiple times about his behavior publicly towards the women of the cast and crew, and felt safe with him as a result.

[@izabelaR]

@@lucashenderson2775 Wow that's so nice to know about the actor Paul. A friend of mine in Canada said her daughter met him and showed me a pic. I forgot what were the circumstances. I think I vaguely remember her saying he was really nice.

[@lucashenderson2775]

@@izabelaR Isn't it funny how the actors who play the most evil characters on shows tend to be the nicest in real life?

[@sos3627]

@@lucashenderson2775 Totally !! 💯 The ultimate paradox ..

[@gryffindorftw6198]

@@lucashenderson2775 Must be how they get all the negative energy out.

[@zahrasimard-trepanier1558]

This man who basically gave me the standards as I grew up on how love could and should be and gave me an escape where I could find myself through litterature and music… I’m so selfishly glad I didn’t found out he was such a scumbag in my teenage years cause I would’ve litterally believed in nothing. How can a twisted human like this can write such beautiful and meaningful things baffles me…

[@platinumgreyx8976]

It’s called being a Narcissist. They are the golden manipulators & abusers who seek control, abuse, & validation for their fragile egos.

[@othluver7]

I know he's sick. Oth was the best show ever back then it inspired me and to think of Mark this way it's too bad but I'm 100% were getting the real truth

[@Dsgabi456]

Same here

[@youlig1]

well richard wagner was an anti-semite sooo... monsters can also be great artists

[@Tee84]

He might be the ''creator'' but he didn't gave us that. The people that played the character did, the artists that created the music, and every other people that worked on that show. Cause without them, that scumbag wouldn't have done the show. OTH is not Mark. It's Sophia, It's Hillary, It's Joy, It's Chad, It's James, and every other beautiful souls that made that magic happen. :) And for the scumbag, he can rot in hell for the rest of eternity. Who knew he would turn to be even worst than Dan was.

[@elizabeth981]

Wow, this conversation about toxic work environment brings up so many memories of my experience in my 30 year career I had. Some of what Sophia explained happen to me at my job (side room discussions, pitting one against each other and talking behind their back etc). This is why I resigned from my job in 2016, in my resignation letter, I did small short outline why I was leaving, I even titled the paragraph "People don't leave companies, People leave bad managers" - Marcus Buckingham No one deserves to be treated unfairly and cruelly in a workplace 💪

[@godimlarge]

I LOVE Sophia Bush. I could listen to her talk all day about anything. She’s just wonderful

[@ScruffMcGruff86]

Her voice is so amazing, I could listen to her talk for hours. I actually met her once back in the day when I was working in LA as a low-level voice actor. She was really nice, which is pretty rare for someone with the level of notoriety she had back then (mid naughts, 05/06) I was sitting in the commissary on the lot I was working at, I wanna say it was Fox or Paramount but can’t remember, and she sat near me and we talked for a little bit about what we were working on and I told her that my mom loved her show. She actually signed a napkin for my to give to my mom. Really sweet lady, sucks she had to deal with SA stuff.

[@RestingCatNipFace]

I’ve heard a few people who were extras on the show say she wasn’t very nice but I never met her so I can’t say. That’s really cool you do voice acting

[@eddierivera7206]

I watched One Tree Hill from the beginning until the end, from my teenage years up into my twenties and I was a fan of the show. I liked the stories and the performances given by the actors combined with the sports aspect. It's heart breaking to learn that Sophia Bush, Bethany Joy Lenz, and Hilarie Burton and all the women on the show had to deal with Mark Schwann and his abusive behavior. They didn't deserve that at all. I think it's great that they can be open with their experiences to share what happened and help others. I think it's great that the actress can still look back at the best parts of working on One Tree Hill, even though Schwann was a nightmare of human being.

[@PlaceForAnEcho]

I will claim my firm opinion as a fact: she’s a good person. She seems wonderfully down to earth. I’m very glad for the inevitable Me Too movement because men have had no check and ramifications for and long time. He is a predator. I’m so glad these women are still friends and wonderful people.

[@ChristinaTaft]

Great for Sophia to speak like this! We all talked about hostile environment and discrimination laws needed for the film/modeling industry… so sad that these letters are not seen online

[@ECovYouDug]

Currently binge watching OTH in Season 6 episode 15. I was skeptical at first because I was coming off of Friday Night Lights & wanted a basketball version of that if you will. It wasn’t quite the basketball story i was looking for but the drama definitely kept me locked in. Great show cant wait to see how it is. Really sucks to know this information while watching years later.

[@Imbatman257]

Sophia Bush was my first cru! sad to know that most women have to fo through so much crap to get anywhere regardless of their talent, I even stopped watching Chicago PD after she left! stay strong! things must change

[@lucaleone4331]

In general its harder to watch this show again knowing all of this. But then the added disgust of when Mark makes appearances himself! (hes the record store owner for those who dont know) and he's always supposed to come off as the sympathetic, knowledgeable, caring guy. I just rewatched the episode after Lindsey and Lucas' failed wedding. And mark is there with Peyton being a shoulder to cry on and offer advice. And I just cant separate the monster from the character. I just cant stop seeing how good Hilarie Burton is as an actress to film that scene and not show being disgusted. She's the only one I think to get these scenes with him, she must have hated it.

[@jeremyadams1521]

This was fascinating to hear. Interesting though, I feel like the things Sophia points out are disgusting and abhorrent (like pitting the actresses against each other, or putting up their underwear photos in his office) but they would be hard to prosecute. Whereas some of the allegations against Joss Whedon seem easier to prosecute, like threatening to fire someone because they are pregnant or throwing an actor against up a wall. Of course we don’t know the full stories though.

[@lg_1226]

God makes me absolute sick! I grew up watching this show. Sophia, Hilarie, Joy they were my idols! I absolutely loved them and to think they were going through so much bullshit on set and behind the scenes that none of the fans were even much aware of. I feel so bad for them. Excuse it really is a phenomenal show but the puppet master was a monster

[@EtwasMartin]

I see two winners here: Sophia for standing up, making this public and being able to put all that shit into such clear and calm words. And Michael for just letting her talk and stepping back in a way.

[@manasmittal3312]

I was just craving for a brand new 2021 Sophia Bush interview today morning. Glad my wish was granted.

[@user-dr2yz8um3d]

God… The whole time I watched this show I had no idea Sophia suffered through this Nobody wants a toxic working environment Hollywood is a tough thing these days when dealing with this behavior that goes on behind the curtains I give her props she made it at the end

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

OMG the torture and misery! (severe sarcasm)

[@whatudoin1]

What a monster... Didn't help that these actors on teen shows be hating on each other, she should own that. I'm glad they united in their fight. I remember guests on 90210 saying they've been told not to talk or make eye contact with the stars on set. Hollywood is so toxic!

[@checksanity]

"Hating on each other" because they were being fed lies about the others talking shit about them, is not the same thing as bumping egos.

[@9crimes87]

Did you purposely miss the part where she says the girls clicked immediately and the creepy monster didn't like it. And then made sure to pit them against each other. She doesn't have to own up to anything, he does.

[@whatudoin1]

@@9crimes87 did you purposely miss that i generalized the topic adding other shows as an example?She doesnt have to own to anything?Is she virgin marie?nobody is perfect .If my memory is right she dated 2 of the actors ,girls auditioned for one role and were given another one and then the usual fight for covers,popularity ...There was way more drama on set to just pretend it came from that one guy.There is no defending what that man did ! i´m glad they stood up together. Harasment is criminal and definitely another level of toxicity . I just choose to name everything and not have a selective memory.You do you

[@jasonnstegall]

Incidentally, OTH was initially (and intentionally) created by Schwahn to be told from a male perspective (the two sons fighting for their father's affections, etc.) and ALL the females were supposed to always be, to use an old word for it, "sidepieces" and generally unimportant to the main subject(s) at hand. Ironically, it wasn't until Sophia's character was the breakout that OTH became a success (in the classic, pre social media sense)...and it's additionally ironic that Sophia would reference Friends, because that show didn't become (in my humble and modest opinion) until Lisa Kudrow's character became the breakout there. And...I feel there is more than a little bit of Brooke in Phoebe (and vice versa), plus both actresses respectively have always been supportive of their castmates both on and off screen, and NEVER thought of themselves as the star of their shows.

[@user-gt7pk6ut9k]

I rewatched OTH recently and seeing how violent Peytons story line was compared to the other girls made me sick.. I feel like he was trying to portray what he wanted to do to Hilarie on to her character.

[@tvl9193]

Just think about the Derek storyline 😳😳😳

[@mariannegrey3195]

@@tvl9193 and Brooke’s storyline with Xavier! Makes me sick 🤢

[@tvl9193]

@@mariannegrey3195 Yeah that too. It’s like him punishing the girls like «this is what you get for rejecting my creepy ass»

[@jadedheartsz]

All the girls kind of got put through the ringer, Haley got hit by that car.

[@Animefreak242]

He did this a lot with all the women. They talked about how he had to portray the cheerleaders and athletes certain ways and it reeked of someone who was living vicariously through the characters. He wanted to sleep with them and he wanted to punish them for the girls who rejected him in highschool

[@jonathanbecker8935]

There's such a huge problem with the fact that these assaults haven't resulted in criminal prosecution. It's sickening that other men witnessing this behavior don't verbalize outrage, and take definitive measures to stop it. Not many industries have been so permissive in recent times to require such a huge movement to end a serial abuser's tenure like this.

[@scallen3841]

Because they don't go to the proper authorities , they have press conference's about it .

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

Unfortunately, a lot of places in the world don't charge sex criminals after a certain amount of time has passed.

[@Ilikefrogs..]

@@scallen3841 If someone abused you, and you knew if you told anyone you would never have another job, would you go to the authorities? Especially in the early 2000s. Every one of these girls (who were in their teens and early 20s) would have been permanently blacklisted.

[@scallen3841]

@@Ilikefrogs.. Oh well then they are black listed life sucks

[@johnhotchkiss9842]

I would love to see someone from the Firefly cast get interviewed. A lot of bad things have come out about Joss Whedon. Even a crew member on Firefly has spoken out. But the cast of Firefly always said they enjoyed the show. So it would be interesting to find out what it was like on set for them with Joss Whedon.

[@Bazookatone1]

I've been thinking the same thing, everything I've heard about Firefly suggested it was really supportive and wholesome behind the scenes, but all the stuff that's come out about Buffy seems in such a stark contrast.

[@FirstNameLastName-wt5to]

@@Bazookatone1 Firefly was a cast of adults. Buffy was a cast of kids. People like this get off on controlling and taking advantage of the vulnerable.

[@maximusprime3459]

Its so funny how the fans worshipped Joss all those years.

[@johnhotchkiss9842]

@@maximusprime3459 I admit when the first Avengers film came out I thought he was an amazing director. But then when I heard the stories about what he was like. I realised what kind of person he really was.

[@maximusprime3459]

@@johnhotchkiss9842 I used to get into comment battles with people on the old IMDB message boards because I didnt worship "St. Joss" like they did. Especially over the Charisma Carpenter debacle. If those folks knew then what is reality now...

[@AlyssiaD-LightsCameraAct]

This is so frustrating and sad to hear. I remember watching the first episode of OTH (ultimately I was a fan and watched the whole series), and it felt off. I was a huge Dawson's Creek fan and I just felt like there was a weird over-sexualized vibe immediately. It felt not okay from the start, what they did and asked of with these young women who were playing high schoolers. It lacked the innocence and honesty of DC. Makes more sense now as to why.

[@jayclearmen411]

you are lost i remember being in high school in you either aren’t observant or in your own world cuz it was dramatic an ppl werent losing their v-cards in 18+….naw far from it.It was common for ppl to be in relationships freshman-sophomore year at the regular..lol i had 4-6 pregnant girls in my AP English literature class it was crazy

[@AlyssiaD-LightsCameraAct]

@@jayclearmen411 lol I lost my vCard at 15. Not lost. It was the way they portrayed things that bugged me. Dawson's Creek was much one true to my experiences and those of my friends, not OTH.

[@raindropsonroses3919]

@@AlyssiaD-LightsCameraAct I adore Dawson’s creek. I wish I could have watched it as a teen at the time on cable, but I was only two when it came out.

[@Sonalit278]

Just can't believe that someone who created the show which has such a beautiful and meaningful impact in so many ways can be a real monster! Ughh. So glad it's out in the open and that Sophia, Hilary and Joy realised they were being pitted against eachother 😍 so happy to see the bond they share till date!

[@cynthiaholmes5124]

I truly feel sorry for Hillary and sophia and the other women who had to endure what he put them through mark is definitely a creep I'm glad that he got fired from the royals

[@sallysmith8408]

It’s so sad that what seemed like such an insanely wholesome show actually had some really dark origins. It’s a show which still has potential and in fact I can think of an idea for a reboot, but knowing what we know now I don’t think that will ever happen

[@jjaapp18]

I've always loved her voice. I just hope it's not putting a strain on anything like we found out with Steve-O's voice.

[@booklover3341]

She is amazing. I know she hasn't had the best of luck with shows given her experience on Chicago PD as well as OTH, but I sincerely wish her the best of luck in future endeavors.

[@deydzz]

What happened with Chicago PD????

[@booklover3341]

@@deydzz Keep in mind that I haven't heard this from her own mouth, just second hand reports, but apparently, Jason Beghe was physically abusive towards her and he even went into anger management classes.

[@DjDarkD]

I loved One Tree Hill.. This puts a real nasty taste in my mouth having heard about all this.

[@rebeccaelliott9770]

I adore her. A real beauty who cares about the world

[@BABYDOLL87LOVELY]

ONE TREE HILL WILL ALWAYS BE MY FAVE SHOW. THIS IS #1 GIANT TV & FILM DVD COLLECTION. I OWN 56 SHOWS MOST COMPLETED SERIES I LOVE ALL MY SHOWS BUT THIS SHOW IS JUST #AMAZING & SOPHIA "BROOK DAVIS" STILL MY FAVE GIRL/CHARACTER.

[@Freda-Jamilla]

I love this information, so sad about the fact they went through it, but glad it’s getting out there... I’ve work in the business for years, at a point you just get used to it, but now thing really have changed & continues too, thanks to people speaking up & the audience saying we don’t support this behavior anymore

[@meggi8048]

why do you need people speaking up for you? why don't you make your own borders known and fight for your self? somebody does things to you you dont like, go and fight! i dont support this victim childish behaviour mainstream is showing nowadays and women declaring themself victim on every occasion refusing to take any responsibility in life for anything at all makes me just sad. its time women emancipate and stop this childish shit.

[@Freda-Jamilla]

@@meggi8048 Trust me, i have lost many jobs from directors & producers trying to metro me & I didn't let it happen, but when it comes to privacy when changing, how they speak to you (specially photographers) & so on, it's get used to it ore they don't work with you... it's the straight in numbers that set the change, when someone in a job situation treat you badly & everyone just act like it's normal & okay, you get used to it.

[@meggi8048]

@@Freda-Jamilla i am freelance consultant, worked for dozens of companies. if a company has assholes or bad conditions i dont work for them, neither do my fellow freelance coworkers... and know what, nobody gets treated bad. by accepting shitty treatment you reinforce bad behaviours. what you describe is typical female compliance. you comply because its convenient. so do your female coworkers. makes you guys part of the problem.

[@thethrowawaythatstayed7055]

Love Sophia. She’s so brave.

[@TheActualCathal]

In Plato's Republic he says that to motivate the soldiers, the best soldier should be allowed to kiss whichever soldier he deems the prettiest. The mentality that the reward for success is to subvert the sexual agency of the less successful is as old as the written word. It's baked in our society at foundation. Do not underestimate how much there is to unlearn.

[@rnp497]

yeah but Plato also argued that the only leaders are Philosopher Warriors so I think his work may be considered suspect

[@StephaniaLRomano]

I feel sorry for what everyone went through from the show, out of 9 yrs. Despite of the creator and Mark Schwahn. I'll just remember awesome memories of watching OTH your fan🥰

[@XMrCuervo]

I’ve always like her voice, it sounds so relaxing 😊

[@heidimcguire5996]

About as relaxing as fingernails on a chalkboard.

[@Aflei]

Just finished OTH. One of my favorites, mainly because despite Mark being a loser, all the cast are close to each other today.

[@wallywest2020]

im so sorry about this they are all so great people😭

[@Lithrilla]

Sickening. So sorry this happened to them and that it went on for so long.

[@rockstarnurse2693]

No matter how many of these stories the public hears, it never seems register that this is the absolute culture of Hollywood. What Sophia is talking about is child's play; much, MUCH worse abuse goes on in that industry. Let's not even start with what they do to children...

[@sleepinggorilla]

What astonishes me is that you see so much politically correct rhetoric on TV and yet all this still happens behind the scenes. People that commit wildly inappropriate behavior write scenes that condemn that behavior. It’s sad that this has destroyed her career. Same with Rose McGowan. I doubt either of them will work again because of they spoke out.

[@mcstacia]

Sophia works all the time. She has a new sitcom that’s supposed to be coming to cbs. Rose is a bit out there 😜 so I can see why she has problems getting acting jobs.

[@sherrythomas3028]

@@mcstacia yeah because Hollywood did that to Rose

[@checksanity]

Sophia wasn't alone in coming out about this and has had consistent work since then. What's unfortunate is that it took a few years after the show and a whole movement for this to come out. As for people saying/writing one thing and behaving another, that's not relegated only to Hollywood. From one side of the scale, such as politicians to parents who have a "do as I say, not as I do" mentality. Not to mention the wolves in sheep's clothing who do it on purpose for easier prey.

[@molasorrosalom4846]

Oh yeah, because Rose was a rising star and not bat$hit crazy or anything.....

[@FirstNameLastName-wt5to]

@@sherrythomas3028 Rose was raised in a sex cult. Her parents messed her up.

[@JayUk94]

I feel bad for her and the others! Brooke was my favorite character, can't help but think about all the ones on that show who happily chewed down on the creator for a "extra roll" 🤭

[@aryanachoudhury3199]

Brooke Penelope Davis has my heart ❤️ Sophia bush is amazing ❣️✨

[@splashymothtv9952]

Wait! Michael and Sophia on my screen, together?!? I never knew I needed this!

[@kevincarvalho5054]

I grew up watching the show and I loved it. Its sucks to hear that the creater is a fucking monster and the actor were being abused.

[@IdealX-fr4eg]

She had an issue on Chicago PD too I believe

[@Loveonlydrivesouthate]

If it was such a bad place to work, why didn’t they just quit? I quit a job in 2019 bc the owner called me a ducking idiot and Prostateeded screaming at me in front of the whole entire office. I just walked out. Found another job within a week. Even when I was younger if I was in a hostile work environment I would walk out. It’s not that hard. I understand contracts bc I was in one 2019. I got a lawyer and fought it. I won bc I proved it was awful there.

[@lemurtheory9350]

I was a massage therapist at a medical clinic for about 2 years. Had a boss that pitted people against each other all the time and wanted me to work on her in more sexual ways. Realized she was crazy and I had just been hired into a place of drama on week one. Then spent those two years trying to find another job as fast as possible and trying to stay out of the drama as best I could. The whole time I was afraid hat on any day I was going to get caught up in something life ruining that I couldn't get out of. I'm sure its not as bad as what they went through or the typical stuff in cali and hollywood has going on.

[@marzigeisha]

I couldn't get into the show, not because of the actors, but there was this creepy, gut roiling undercurrent of toxic male energy. I love Sophia. She holds a show. I wish her the best things.

[@KornBullsLFC]

Toxic male energy xD hahahaha

[@jwatson181]

How about just toxic energy.

[@felisha209]

@@jwatson181 how about the creator was an abusive fuck so what they said was correct

[@Stoic_Poet]

OMG she suffered sooo much! what a survivor!! how did she do it !!!!!! brave, stunning!!!!!!!!!!

[@rebeccaelliott9770]

He didn't like them being really close cos yeah they were more powerful as a unit

[@seanstroman6087]

Smallville & OTH fans unite. Cant believe one show is 20 years and the other is 18 years. Sheesh time really flew.

[@cryptidian3530]

Quite a few directors/producers get away with all kinds of stuff because the cast is too scared to lose the gig, so they don't say anything at the time. That's the reality of Hollywood.

[@jasonnstegall]

It's almost like Sophia (and the other ladies, BTW) were playing chess against a supercomputer already preprogrammed with every move, counter-move and counter-counter-move possible...and she either barely knew how to play chess or barely even knew the concept of the game. So of course she was going to "lose" every time she played...when she finally slapped Schwahn after he went grab-ass on her, that was a sign that she figured out how to reprogram the game...and to a certain extent (as she alluded to in another podcast) herself also.

[@KTBEverlasting]

Man, Schwahn made two of my fave shows: OTH and the Royals but man was he a prick. Nothing new in Hollywood sadly.

[@motherbipsy960]

I didn't hear about this guy until this popped up in my recommended Playlist. I didn't watch OTH either but I saw other stuff the actors and actresses did. Sophia seems like a great person and I'm sorry people go through this shit.

[@slicktop2jz855]

Being a Chef, seems to be a lot of parallels between your industry and hospitality in regards to sexual harrassment.

[@IOANNA333]

As a fellow cook I can confirm that.👩🏻‍🍳

[@karenandrews4224]

Yeah but this seems worse because there are lots of restaurants and you’re not working in underwear jfc

[@seaninness334]

Never really watched OTH but worked in production for awhile. I usually noticed this type of creepy behavior directed at extras who were painfully naïve or hungry for an "in" . Not that that makes it ok, it doesn't, but it's a whole other level of creepiness to do this to principal cast members. No one, in a position of authority, should consider their employees their personal "dating pool". The creepiness can go both ways. Not making excuses for this guy but I've seen women be extra creepy in their own ways.

[@Neeko90]

Still love her voice this many years later

[@dillonrobinson1529]

Its hard to hear and learn of this when you're such a fan of the show. Growing up, watching it air... I remember rushing home to watch wb20 and shit. It's nostalgic now basically? I'm forever reminiscing about this era of my life and how this show effected me and my friends. I will forever love OTH, and miss those days but I'm so glad these women are able to expose someone who had so much power, not just creatively but in every sense.

[@ajl2232]

I love her voice. I always wished I had her voice.

[@toronto__girly]

Kudos to Sophia for sharing what happened and her determination to advocate for women in the industry (and around the world). However, I wish interviewers would learn to stop interrupting/talking over their interviewees! As a journalism major, that was one of the first things I learned…it annoyed the hell out of me during this interview and I don’t think Sophia loved it, either 🤣

[@patrickfabsich2692]

its so sad what to with i love the show as teen but make feel sad when i rewatch and now this! Its very sad that men like mark s and dan s who male such great show was so bad to the cast its so .... Also it sucks that she had this drama two time she is strong that she can talk abouth it

[@Kholmi.28]

In conclusion; the "Industry" is everything, but what it seems. Being young and ambitious will blind you from so much disgusting behaviour. Imagine how many entertainers having come out on top and healing like Sophia Bush. Great work she's doing, by talking so openly about these violations.✨

[@TigerPalmer]

She should do ASMR. I’m comforted by her speaking tone. Getting sleepy now...

[@darthkek1953]

That's relaxation. ASMR is "tingles".

[@lizabethb13]

If things were this bad on set, why did her and Joy stay all throughout the 9 seasons?

[@kamenballer]

Highschool memories, that time I am so active in playing Basketball and one night I just randomly saw a commercial about this show and it includes a guy dribbling basketball and it immediately caught my interest. I cannot remember when I stop watching the show, I think it's after the Black Bball player got shot or something, but from what I remember I always watch this because it includes Basketball and Sophia Bush. XD

[@BrianSmithNow]

I'm glad the tide is turning and they were able to speak out about their experiences. What a [expletive deleted] show runner.

[@gerylouis9624]

SOPHIA BUSH I IF YOU WERE HARRASSED AT WORK? I AM SO ABSOLUTELY SORRY TO HEAR THAT! YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT! I LOVE WATCHING YOUR ACTING PERFORMING ACTING IN THE SERIES (GOOD SAM) YOU DO EXCELLENT ACTING PERFORMANCES AND YOU HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL SINGING VOICE!!

[@gerylouis9624]

SOPHIA BUSH IS A VERY GORGEOUS YOUNG LADY!&SHE ALSO SOPHIA BUSH IS A VERY TALENTED ACTRESS!&A TALENTED SINGER! WITH A BEAUTIFUL SINGING VOICE!

[@zuzanahadrova4199]

Buffy the vampire slayer, Smallville, One tree hill,... So many iconic shows were so much painful and scary for those who were working on them. Was it that time when it was shoot? İt's just crazy. İ'm 21 now so those shows are like my childhood and I'm finding just now how toxic some people were. Crazy world this is and not in the good way. Thank you for another great podcast. ❤️

[@britneyisallyouneedtoknow2406]

I haven't watched OTH since it first aired and now, I don't even know or think I could watch it now knowing how gross and terrible the creator was. I do remember thinking back then that it seemed the women were pit against each other (like Hilary, Sophia, and Danneel would be in magazines and Joy wasn't) and I thought that might be a hit to one's confidence or esteem or be ostracizing. The absolute brightside of that show for me was Brooke's character development and Haley & Nathan's relationship. The school shooting and aftermath episodes were poignant too. I really hated/disliked Lucas/ Lucas & Peyton's relationship. I never liked how he treated the women in his life and yet he was always looked at as if he was the heroic character. In my perfect world, Peyton might've ended up with Jake (I say might because who knows if they would've stayed together but they would've been together way longer than what happened in the show) Now with some time away and how society talks more about toxic relationships, he definitely seems like an example of a culture of men behind the scenes writing the stories.

[@papillondumonde7887]

You are so right about Lukas in the show. The way he treats the women in his life is just bad. And he is made out to be this "nice guy"

[@jadedheartsz]

I always prefered Lucas with Brooke myself, but i warmed up to Leyton eventually.

[@joshpritt2146]

I was glad when Jake left 😅. I prefer Leyton.

[@rooseveltheath]

It seems this drama follows her she supposedly had bad experience with Chicago PD however the show is thriving and relevant without her and not falling apart whatever happened before that isn't important to me, but I been hearing about her whining about Chicago PD however it's still relevant honestly her leaving was probably the best thing that happened

[@marina9299]

They also recasted Peyton Sawyers dad because the crew thought that their relationship was too “touchy” because he only sees things in a perverted way… so fucking absurd what happened and how it got no media coverage cause this is HUGE.

[@TrippleBPlays]

I always wondered why they recast him

[@nikw94]

Unfortunately today it hasn't changed. Glad Sophia got to spoke about it and get to hear her side of the story.

[@blkwolff]

I had no idea about any of this and OTH is a huge part of my teenage years, it really marked me for life.

[@hibarikyoya854]

Sophia Bush is such an underated actress admittedly I have watch much of what she does besides a movie oth obviously and she is amazing in Chicago pd such a good actress

[@smcd6101]

Sophia Bush is a Queen!! 👑💕 So glad she and others are speaking out about that vile DB

[@kyrakaur8092]

i miss her in chicago pd with jay. They had a great friendship on scence and off and their relationship in the show was the best.

[@jonsimon5779]

What she's talking about is known as being "third partied". Someone tells someone something that you never said in an effort to pit you against each other. It's a very anti-social personality trait and can mysteriously ruin relationships. I always tell people if they have any doubt about something that I supposedly said, be sure to check with me first.

[@patrickmcguire451]

Wow thanks for putting up with that so we could enjoy the show. So sorry people are like that.

[@Jimvandesteeg]

This is the life you chose. I'm sympathetic... Not justifying his behavior, but your could have quit. So it wasn't that bad. Your lack of action speaks loudly.

[@kb5509]

no it isn't.

[@maryoaks3228]

Makes you wonder about individuals that create shows that involve sexualizing young people. There’s ALOT of that going in presently and the exploitation isn’t always obvious.