Index Style Releases

There are lot of options when it comes to index style releases. In this video I go over features I look for in a release, no matter the brand.
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@Inside_Out_Precision

[@Ranger.Vt.]

Awesome video. A little trick I use for putting more holes in a strap is heat up a nail red hot and push it through with pliers. The holes are nice and neat looking with no frayed material. I’ve had to do it for a few people. Works great.

[@gordonneverdies]

I know this is old but that's a great idea dude.

[@danskhus]

Really appreciate these videos, for a newbie like myself they're solid gold , thanks for putting it out 👍

[@J_TRAIN]

I love my SCOTT LITTLE GOOSE!!! Single caliper pin for the win!!!

[@drewstreckenbach4517]

Lol. I got my first bow recently and have a dual caliper. Chewed through the dloop in 2 weeks

[@megadthes8427]

My personal favorite are the Trufire models like the smoke he showed here. I went for the $85 version, I forget the model name. It is a dual caliper spring tension release. The slightly more expensive version I use is more polished and contoured which reduces the Loop wear he mentioned. I absolutely love it! As far as the sear style, or cam style releases are concerned I don’t really like the sudden break of the trigger. It causes me to flinch or worse pre-fire accidentally. With my favorite I simply trained myself not to punch the trigger or anticipate the release. I just anchor, aim, and concentrate on aiming more than what my trigger finger is doing. Like he said 1 thought comes naturally. Just slowly ease into it and like a rifle it sends it down range when it sends it. Form and aim come first!

[@brycehiigel235]

I love my Trufire Hardcore max. The biggest PT is what you stated. Can feel for the d-loop while still be able to keep an eye on the animal. Also the wrist strap is very comfortable and don’t feel any pinching on the wrist. Now when you release watch the hook and make sure it is completely engaged before you draw back. Mine doesn’t lock in sometimes.

[@philippbayer866]

Finaly someone talks about the way too long straps. Im a pretty tall guy and I feel like the straps are always too long. Great Video my friend

[@Jack_The_Biker]

Boa wiseguy is my go to. Light trigger and excellent build quality

[@Ranger_k16]

I like the spothog because of how crisp the trigger is and how it can be folded out of the way when glassing ect

[@jordanpowell228]

I agree about the new stan, i want to see it in action from some people doing reviews. There is an index finger trigger release that i feel gets nowhere near the attention it deserves. The scott echo is a superb hybrid style release, very adjustable in terms of trigger tension and travel along with being on a strap to adjust the throat length. I found it to be far more consistent than my trufire hardcore.

[@sethlindsey1359]

Ran a scott shark for years. Recently switched to the scott talon and love it.

[@jon08182]

Great videos man, you've been tremendous help. I'm a newbie Archer been shooting recurve and getting a compound bow, these videos are great for educating oneself.

[@piche090391]

Been shooting the spot hog wise guy since I got my bow - at the Bowrack of course- love it. I didn't even bother trying the other ones. Super fast to put-on a off, no noise from buckles and trigger adjustment is setup the same as my trigger on my comp gun so I get the same trigger pull, which makes me happy lol

[@shannondaugherty5431]

I love the old scotts.i live about twenty miles from clay city KY where the original scotts were made.ill b using b3 releases from now on

[@droberts1664]

Thanks for the info. Now i know what to be looking at when buying a release.

[@MrBA812]

I Shoot a Scott little mongoose have been using Scott releases for years I’m 58 and I started shooting archery in 4H when I was 11

[@zacharybennett3249]

Thanks for your experience and nice jacket!

[@richardbeto1615]

Awesome video. Thank you very much. I think I like the hook style. I'm brand new in archery and I'm also in PA. I'm in the only part of PA that doesn't have any type of archery stores less than 1 hour away🤣🤣. Unfortunately our local sport shop closed down😔

[@chickimac1]

Like my old tru ball dual caliper release and my silverback

[@usn4life824]

TruFire has proven good for me. I use a private label Hardcore single talon. It’s a Blackout Twilight but it’s TruFire. Thank you for this video!!! I learned a lot!

[@craigjohnson6141]

I have an old Scott Wildcat also. Terrific release.

[@trevorselch5574]

With the Hardcore release the hook doesn't swing around fully, and it causes your loop to have to move around the hook causing erratic flight

[@ADKwarriors]

I use a True Fire smoke and the trigger travel is horrible. Having no travel adjustment is a serious downside to that release but it is very affordable and if your used to shooting rifles its easy to get used to.

[@pauldavies5541]

Finally someone said it. Why are all release straps so long! Even my spot Hogg boa is done up all the way.

[@boundlessobsession6266]

100% agree. Even shortened up as much as possible still too long and I have very large hands.

[@JayMac]

B3 Hawk is amazing now that that's out

[@joedryna161]

I have that release you have. Well the lil goose. Had it for about 4 years now. Worked great up until today. That set screw backed out on its own over time and I didn't notice it until I got in my stand this afternoon. Release wouldn't hold the string at all. I actually had to use a tooth pick to get it out once I got home cuz I didn't have an Allen key that small. Threw the set screw in the garbage so that doesn't happen again. Not sure if you've ever had that issue or anybody else who has that release have that issue but if you do something you might want to check before you go out hunting so that doesn't happen to you. I was just shooting the other day and it was fine. Still love the release but just a heads up if you have it so it doesn't spoil a hunt for you

[@GunsandRadios]

Instead of drilling a hole to make the strap smaller. Get a leather punch from harbor freight or hobby store makes much smoother holes.

[@stevefountain]

Can you post a link to the “Anchor point” video you mentioned?

[@chompo9135]

I shoot that Truball Valor release and love it! Haven't had any D-loop wear because of the rounded inside edge on the caliper. It's a bit of a hair trigger, but can be adjusted to be lesser so. Glad it was included because it's one of those ones that I feel doesn't get enough love. I've noticed that mine has lost a lot of that sound you mentioned through use as well. It's a good fidget toy in the field too :D

[@evilryu29]

I watch the video he is talking about and it help me alot to shoot better.

[@AdventureOne]

Well presented and good content. I also love the TRUGLO boa strap. I use the detonator hook model.

[@claywallsoutdoors9957]

i’m thinking on the detonator release. do you recommend it?

[@AdventureOne]

@@claywallsoutdoors9957 I do. Just tinker with the adjustments a bit to where it feels right. The trigger has a wide range from so light it is dangerous to really stiff.

[@billjoanitis918]

Why can’t a compound bow release be used on a recurve bow? Thanks Great videos, great info.

[@tonypace2009]

I use to Use release on recurve the issue is recurve at full draw has a lot more weight on release therefore when trigger sear is released the string still has a lot more force opening jaws of release causing trigger itself to fracture. Tried 3 different releases and same type damage to all 3 of them . Honestly the reason I am getting back into recurve now is they are faster to aquire target and honestly a release just adds more that has to be addressed during the shot. For target shooting recurve I can see a benefit in shoot through riser recurve and a release but need to find a release that can cushion the jaws as they are forced open .

[@John_D2]

I've been using a carter 2 shot with a scott buckle strap for 10+ years.

[@mab0852]

Love my Wiseguy, but it is super sensitive (in a good way). When my Wiseguy strap goes, I'll be making a new leather one. My buddy's Scott got so frayed I decided it was too dangerous to shoot anymore. I cut the parts off and made him a new strap that will outlast his archery career and its custom fit to his wrist. Just because it came in the box that way doesn't mean it needs to stay that way. Better yet grab a used one with a bad strap on the cheap and make your own. Custom fit, fraction of the price.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Toy can make the trigger stiffer on your Wise guy

[@InsideOutPrecision]

@Jake P *you can make the trigger stiffer back out the tiny set screw behind the trigger a turn or so

[@bigfhands]

the wrist strap gave me carpal tunnel but i liked it way better then thumb release

[@JB-lp9gz]

Can you tell me if you have tried the Spot Hogg Tuff Guy yet? Is there more in length adjustability, some say it’s noisy, overall impression vs Wise Guy. Thanks

[@randykoster6587]

Torque-less string loops will prevent any sort of torque that could be put on the string from a release.

[@jalonmiller9320]

Very insightful information... you know what your talking about

[@tonyviers-de9qi]

Stan solex has s pretty good. I went from scott lil goose , then tried a few different ones. Wise guy had a lot of good reviews so i bought it. Comfortable, crisp trigger . However, it was way too hot for me. As soon as i felt my finger on it it would fire. If you like to slap the trigger, not sure theres a better one

[@russelllangworthy8855]

I found the comment about not having to look down to hook the release to the stringloop interesting. I was born with the kind of eyeballs that move freely in their sockets, allowing me to look down without moving my head. That's a terrible handicap for you to have, especially for bowhunting, to have eyeballs that are in a fixed position. Besides that, you said you can feel the loop with your fingers, so it doesn't require you to look down. What if you're wearing gloves?

[@wildsau1965]

thanks for the info on scott . was going to buy the talon but i think ill get the hawk from B3

[@patherbert6684]

Great video as always!

[@joeymurphy5617]

i shoot a Scott Echo with a Truball stinger as a backup. my Echo might be a tad too long, at least going by how you set length on yours.

[@howiegreene8018]

I really enjoy your videos. I have learned a lot by watching. You’re talking about me when you mention too long of a release. Does the “Stan Xtinction” hard (not rope) head fully swivel one adjusted? Thanks again

[@howiegreene8018]

That’s once adjusted

[@royfazenbaker3139]

I do not know if it was NOS or not but I just bought a wildcat 2 over the weekend

[@tronny4981]

I use the TRUGLO Nitrus dual jaw with the BOA strap and it has complete adjustability and there is no play in the trigger and I have it set very light, you should go over some TRUGLO releases

[@InsideOutPrecision]

We used to sell them but had a few malfunction so we dropped them. I thought they were a nice though!

[@tronny4981]

@@InsideOutPrecision thanks for the reply and I was very happy with the release I picked and great video I'd be interested to see comparisons of arrow rests too!

[@tronny4981]

Sorry I spoke too soon I looked on your channel and found it

[@kristianrobles6163]

When are you coming out with a overview of thumb releases?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

So I'm waiting on two other releases that we ordered at the ATA show. But I will absolutely do a review once I get them! Thanks for watching, good shooting to you?

[@kristianrobles6163]

Awesome, Thanks for the update! Keep up the reviews and tutorials!

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Also just realized I typed a question mark at the end of the reply lol. Have a good day?

[@boundlessobsession6266]

All these releases have trigger travel which is detrimental to accuracy. Gonna try the new Stan. I shoot the Wise Guy now and don't like the trigger travel also after time both mine have developed an audible "click" when I apply tension to the string. Great customer service but they're no Stan.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I have a Stan PerfeX thumb release and have sent it back 3 times because the springs wear out and there's a ton of travel after they do. Something must be wrong with your wise guy if there's trigger travel before it fires, because all the ones I have used don't have any travel that I can feel. Carter actually makes the best release if you're looking for something with no travel, we just don't carry them so no I couldn't review them.

[@jozsefpetrik7902]

Exellent content

[@hardys.5763]

I'm looking for a release that uses a release of tension. In other words, you apply tension to draw, and relax your hand, or finger to fire. I used one years ago, and was extremely accurate with it. Any ideas as to who is making such a release? Just seemed to make so much sense to me.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Spot Hogg used to make it...Haven't made it in years though.

[@stephenryder8143]

Yea. Im 6foot 3 ive had releases be to big .who are they for andrea.😅

[@gaelewis6623]

What's the name of that practice string you got for release?

[@MrTactiCALi]

Short N' Sweetr🔥 with BOA.

[@thomaspaumen8188]

In this release video, can you tell me what the draw simulator you are using on the trufire hardcore?

[@kevinfowler6065]

Have you ever seen a Fletch hunter release.

[@monkeymind7246]

Thanks for the video. I am a complete newbie. As a check, if I shorten my wrist strap, I need to increase the draw length on the bow. I am worried that my arrow length with be too short. How much length should I leave?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

You shouldn't need to lengthen your draw length...

[@tradrodsandcustoms]

i rifle hunted most of my life. personally i really like the wiseguy because it really reminds me of a rifle trigger. i adjust it so it sets on my first knuckle for that reason. i dont think in my case it requires more focus that way, it actually made it easier for me to not think about my release. maybe im wrong idk. im far from a perfect shot haha

[@badmoonrising87]

How do you reset the hook? When I got the Fang a year ago I think I remember just pulling the trigger again to reset the hook. Now I have to manually reset the hook with my finger and I wonder if a spring fell out accidentally.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Just depends on the release. Some you just manually reset it.

[@thestcroixkid]

my fang auto resets...

[@guitarwilly81]

Which wrist strap release will allow me to get my second index finger knuckle around the trigger? They always seem too long for me.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

The Wise Guy or B3 hawk can get really short. Same with the short and sweet from tru ball

[@imichael2411]

Got a noob question (Just getting back into archery after being away for 40 years). Just bought a take-down recurve 50 lb. bow. Question: To Release or Not to Release? Will be using this bow for target, and in time for hunting. Thank you!

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Definitely don't shoot it with a release. Recurves aren't meant for it

[@imichael2411]

@@InsideOutPrecision Thank you, Sir! Just saved me money, and more importantly, kept me safe!!!!

[@geraldtarrant7576]

you need a tab and then you need to bare shaft tune the bow . It is possible to shoot a recurve with a release aid but you will probably run into some clearance issues.

[@aymanjoudar5425]

What are the best release manufacturers??

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Stan, Tru Ball, B3 and Carter in my opinion

[@hcr1248]

I’ve got a question on the difference in draw length using a back tension release like the Silverback or a thumb release VS a wrist strap. Would the draw length be shorter or longer using a back tension? Thanks

[@toddlymburner5783]

Draw length is the same but you’ll most likely have to move your peep

[@michaelangelogarcia118]

What was that tool you had to help you release

[@hcr1248]

What release would you suggest for a beginner teen boy with a small wrist? I’ve been looking at the hardcore single hook but also looking into maybe something like a thumb release or like a silverback. Thanks

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I like the B3 hawk or spot Hogg wise guy for index style releases. Handhelds are great as well but you need to spend a lot of time blank baling with one to make sure you're getting a clean release. A punch or forced shot with a handheld generally punishes you more than a punch with an index

[@jeremymcclanahan2389]

great video....thx for taking the time to teach

[@marcodeleon2482]

What release trainer are you using?

[@robertfazekas4607]

Would you recommend Hook style release for beginners? Thank you for your help. Kind regards Robert

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yeah there’s nothing about a hook that makes it any harder to use than a caliper

[@robertfazekas4607]

@@InsideOutPrecision thank you so much for your reply!

[@bethg7026]

Can you recommend a release for a skinny 6 year old girl? She has a patriot junior but its a little bulky and she's constantly futzing with it to try to make it more comfortable

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yes, B3 makes a release called the Brave. Quality release and made with a short shank and small wrist strap just for kids!

[@johnniles7939]

Sir, what do you think of the new through fire by trufire. I really been focusing in not punching the trigger and wonder if this would help.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I don't have any personal experience with nor have a talked to anyone who has shot it. Looks like a cool concept though

[@johnniles7939]

There $150, saw one video on KZbin, seems like it takes some time to adjust in. If you get a chance to use one, let us know. I’m 65 and have only been shooting for about 10 years. Your videos are a great learning tool. Thanks.

[@jodokast2000]

Can you help me find a release for my smaller hands/arms? I need something that can really be made short. I’ve got small hands and fingers. 26.5” draw. I’m shooting a trufire wrist release at the moment. Belt loop style made as small as it can go, and it still creeps up my hand. Even with the release made as short as possible, my index finger has to reach for the trigger.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

The Tru Ball Short N' Sweet or the B3 Hawk would both be great.

[@talesofthebacksix1008]

How did you get a boa strap on the Scott Wildcat that you have in this video?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

You just have to cut it out of the stock strap and put it on the after market BOA

[@talesofthebacksix1008]

@@InsideOutPrecision Thank you. TruGlo?

[@minkmink410]

Do you like when realses have the nylon strap more

[@InsideOutPrecision]

It's all personal preference, but I prefer one that swivels. Nylon straps swing around too much when I'm hiking/hunting and can clink against my bow making unwanted noise

[@jsherrodmalone1]

Question - just purchased the wise guy..love the trigger, the feel in my hand and boa strap. However my accuracy is impacted due to the release not being a swivel (like I am used to shooting and more forgiving with my pull angle). Do you have a recommendation on a swivel with a boa strap that has a very crisp trigger like the wiseguy? I called Spott Hog and they said they do not have a swivel setup with the wiseguy trigger :( Help!!!

[@InsideOutPrecision]

There are couple things here...first, are you gripping the release shank when aiming? If so, swivel or no swivel, it's going to torque the back of your arrow. Relax your fingers so you aren't influencing the release at all. If you are already doing that, then I'd look at the B3 Hawk or TruBall short n sweet

[@InsideOutPrecision]

And you can buy a boa strap that will fit almost any release on the market. Tru Glo makes them

[@torreyintahoe]

Is anyone still using a glove and not using a release?

[@danielmartin9415]

Have you tried the bone single bevel or any single beve Broadheads

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I have not personally. Though I know a lot of people who shoot Kudu and Helix heads that have great things to say. Really can't be best for toughness and penetration.

[@erix288]

What is the name of the item you are using to demonstrate these releases?

[@joehernandez7498]

What and where is that practice draw you got there?

[@levimiller6852]

I wondered the same thing. Check out md50 gear archers release trainer

[@DaveGme]

What training aid is that?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

It's made by MD50 Gear

[@DaveGme]

Thanks!

[@michaelflowers6048]

What is main difference between the TRU Ball Short & Sweet, Beast, and Fang releases?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

The design.

[@michaelflowers6048]

Show all the internal parts on the head are the same?

[@michaelflowers6048]

That was supposed to say. So all of the parts on the head are the same internal and external?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

@@michaelflowers6048 haha I know, sorry. Mostly just the shape of the trigfer, length of the body, and ability to adjust tension/travel. Honestly their website could tell you more than I can.

[@michaelflowers6048]

Thank you

[@InsidiousRD]

Hey there! What was the name of that last TruBall one you referenced in the video? I couldn’t make out the name (camera focus). By FAR one of the absolute best KZbin channels for anything and everything archery related! You are super concise and break things down well. Thank you for taking the time to produce such quality content

[@rickyALH]

Truball Valor

[@mocheford]

Hello. I am wondering : Do you think it feels easier to pull with a thumb release than with a wrist one ?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I don't notice a difference

[@mocheford]

@@InsideOutPrecision oh, ok. Thanks.

[@maxmodalita]

Hi, finally a very easy and direct revew of some good releases..Thanks. Just one question: were did you get that "thing" with the green nylon belt on your bow press? Thnak you (and sorry for my english...)

[@InsideOutPrecision]

From Last Chance Archery.

[@danielkeenan8742]

What is that release aid tool called? Do you guys sell it on your website. The green string with black handle.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

It's made by MD50 Gear. We dont sell it but you can get it off their website.

[@danielkeenan8742]

@@InsideOutPrecision Awesome Thankyou Guys !!!

[@mattheller2476]

hey do you have trufire clutch and I cant find any reviws on it can you do one for me please

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Don't have one to review.

[@TheGnuAddict]

is it weird i use my middle finger for these releases, i feel way more in control and i makes the pull feel lighter. ive been grouping alot better lol

[@jacobscott7137]

Not weird at all. If it works for you, that’s all that matters.

[@gaelewis6623]

What's the name of bow release simulator?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

It’s no longer in production. But it was called the spitfire

[@GrizzAxxemann]

And here I was thinking that they're using midgets for wrist strap sizing... I can't seem to find one BIG enough. I'm always 1-2 holes from largest end

[@stevethedude8740]

What's the name of your shop and where are you located?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Steve the Dude! It's called The Bow Rack, we're in Springfield Oregon

[@christianpaul3303]

Bowrack.com site is up for sale - did you change site?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Its thebowrack.com

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Not updated very often though, better to call the shop at 541-746-9711 if you have any questions about equipment

[@christianpaul3303]

@@InsideOutPrecision Thanks!

[@justinreaser8268]

Exactly they need to fire that giant they test their wrist straps on

[@lancewoody6294]

Do you like the wise guy?

[@michaelangelogarcia118]

The string

[@Michigan_Highlifter]

I legit have never found a release that's long enough for my finger

[@tradrodsandcustoms]

i leave my wiseguy slightly loose so it rides down my hand a touch, i feel the same way

[@robertroberts9558]

Will going from my scott echo to a spot hogg wiseguy help ?? Which one do you like better??

[@InsideOutPrecision]

When you say help do you mean help you be more accurate?? The release itself isn't anymore accurate, in fact the wise guy doesn't have a swivel so it's a little more sensitive to any torque you put on it.. gotta make sure to shoot a relaxed hand with it

[@Erikfl348]

Do you have an Instagram??

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yezzir! @Inside_Out_Precision

[@noureddineelaroussi7680]

You dry fired at 6:02 !!!!!!!!

[@bensonhuber5928]

Is this recorded on a different camera than usual quality seems worse

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Nope, same camera!

[@DENMONKEY]

Guessing he can't drive a manual vehicle