Paul Heyman On How He Became CM Punk's Advocate

Back at our Inside The Ropes Live show in Manchester back in July 2016, Paul Heyman opened up about how he became CM Punk's Advocate from receiving a call from Vince McMahon, to describing the scenes backstage with the big reveal in the car, The Special Counsel to the the Tribal Chief explained how both he and Punk thought it was funny that WWE decided to pair them up, because it was a recipe for disaster. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!
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Paul Heyman Opens up about how he became CM Punk's Advocate from receiving a call from Vince McMahon, to describing the scenes backstage with the big reveal in the car, The Special Counsel to the the Tribal Chief explains how both he and Punk thought it was funny that WWE decided to pair them up, because it was a recipe for disaster. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!

[@bobbym50]

Where can we see the full segment

[@b-rye223]

Don’t act like y’all don’t know that we all want this whole interview 😂

[@thesopranosdynasty]

@@bobbym50 Brock can talk they just don't want him to

[@bobbym50]

@@thesopranosdynasty ??? Never said anything about Brock

[@ramizshould]

Happy holidays Merry Christmas.🎄🎄🎄🌲🌲🌲

[@fizzyfuzz5878]

That was an interesting partnership. Because unlike some of Paul's guys who can't talk, CM Punk was the master of the promo.

[@GoonerEagleEye1]

You are kind of a mr state the obvious ay

[@orangemaniabrother2232]

It might be obvious but it's worth saying

[@hurdyb1]

Yes!

[@chibullz0232]

Punk may not have needed Heyman, but they fed off each other so well I loved the pairing. Plus it was one of the few pairings that made sense with their history

[@dylancorcoran8801]

Punk my 2nd favourite ever

[@MetalGoatSolid]

Heel punk with Heyman was my favourite fucking thing.

[@achrefgaming8874]

it was one of my fav things on wee the thing they bowed by fansibut i was cherring them

[@alvaromedrano8236]

I lived for that duo

[@HorrorFreak68]

Me too. I was SO disappointed when they split them up.

[@Jjj-zz7bz]

I miss heel Punk

[@shaneomacdaddy]

Yeah 😊, I just wish that it lasted longer.

[@chrisgreig98]

*"Paul Heyman saw something in me no one else wanted to admit"* I always thought that was just a line he threw out there during the promo, I didn't realise they genuinely didn't know who he was when they hired him.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Heyman had a great mind for the psychological aspect. Just don't let him control the money.

[@samarthyarishabh5727]

Every single thing he said in that promo was true af

[@uncledrosselmeyer6480]

Everyone in rasslin knew who cm punk was. That’s why they signed him & started shoving him basically right out the gate

[@mohamad4257]

I think Vince was a little jealous of Paul. He knew how talented and creative he was.

[@ScumbagKazuela]

@@jasondyrkacz8270 the thing with ECW debacle was that it was going down anyways it was only due to heyman that it lasted that long.

[@serbonkers4130]

Punk feud with Taker was pretty underrated. He played that heel to perfection.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Punk was really the one where I thought The Streak was in the most danger of being broken.

[@TwoTwoThreeChris]

@@jasondyrkacz8270 nah fr

[@Tcrror]

Punk's*, just trying to help!

[@j86485]

Orton in 2005, Batista in 2007, Edge in 2008 and Punk in 2013 were the only guys I thought could end The Streak because they were younger top stars in their time

[@sinicalypse]

Using the urns to smash taker around was a stroke of geniusness

[@jaimemontejano8201]

"he had no idea what he was going to say" and yet he did better promos than ANYONE else BY FAR

[@jknight1984]

Because it was On the Fly. It felt natural because it WAS.

[@mrh9120]

People still say Punk's promos are scripted. I feel bad for them

[@sibusisonhlapo4428]

That true

[@dannysanchez3525]

Then we got stuck with roman reigns

[@AzguardMike]

John to Roman "come on man, its called a promo. Try again."

[@heatherdeans7899]

I absolutely love that Jeff Hardy's Swanton was referred to backstage as a "flippy dippy thing".

[@bigdrew565]

Basically what it was.

[@levisamom5069]

The most flippy dippy I've seen punk do is a moonsault allbeit a crocked one... That's where his name comes from btw... Crocked Moonsault Punk 😂

[@indrakanthshenoy3248]

😂😂😂

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

The fact that they hired Punk, not because they had seen him in a match, but because the _read about him online,_ is astonishing.

[@thekillionaire117]

Back when the internet didn't dominate culture like it does today.

[@ninjanunch2769]

Typical Vince era shit. No fucking clue and stupid ass characters he made and if they didn't get over he would fire them. When on the indys they were red hot. Glad Vince is gone good riddance

[@BearmanBob]

"I'll see your kids at Wrestlemania" is actually a hilarious line

[@Hellwyck]

The line was "I'd like to see your kids at Wrestlemania".

[@MrBeenus]

​@@HellwyckBruh

[@Sky_Blaze]

​@@MrBeenushe's not wrong

[@MrBeenus]

@@Sky_Blaze Never said he was 🤦‍♂️

[@user-ij3uq2rq5n]

His Vince impression is dead on. Close your eyes, and it’s Vince.

[@TheNepalesevideo]

You should listen to Bruce Prichard

[@TheDON914]

FACTS

[@ChrisNajdek]

You look like Don Cheadle

[@timothy4011]

Worth Storm Bruce does a good one, but not enough base in it.

[@Baraka_Obama_]

Jon Moxley does a good Vince impression

[@Ndihrkop]

I could listen to him forever. The way he tells stories is unmatched.

[@drrllhenry]

Listen to Kevin Garnett talk about the time he trash talked Michael Jordan lol.

[@samtipton9402]

Him and Cornette are the best storytellers!!!

[@corpseparade7500]

Chael sonnen

[@DeukJK]

​@@drrllhenryMichael took it personal

[@bradleysmoke1556]

I could seriously listen to that man speak about anything. He's hilarious, intelligent, and just an all around great person. I'd kill to meet this man.

[@notablink182fanaccount2]

He’s the person in wrestling I’d want to meet first, not any of the wrestlers, not even Vince, Id love to just pick Paul Hayman’s mind about anything for just an hour or two, the goat

[@demineon4966]

This man is a major part of this business and the best manager the business has seen.

[@malikevans2615]

Just don't let him control the money 😂

[@1refcortez]

I met him when he was Paul E. Dangerously.

[@bankaiiibankaaa4573]

For sure, Paul is smart and wise.

[@georgeedwards8189]

"Who you gonna put me with?!" "CM Punk!" "...Well, fuck, I'll see you Monday!" Love that.

[@mohamad4257]

Man I loved their story line.

[@scorptarget]

🤣🤣

[@eXHackeR]

Hell yea

[@kshinokevin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/goXWmZR7ZauBnpI - Paul Heyman and CM Punk's Joyride; Cena's Bad Day - RAW (9/ (1 min.) - by: MizesMelder on Sep 3, 2012

[@randommindz6782]

9:05

[@TheyCallMeMrMaybe]

There's a solid reason CM Punk is revered by the fans. It's because nobody in the business has been better at cutting a promo nor can back it up in the ring better than him. He is and always will be one of the all time greats.

[@joelhighlight6231]

Only reason people love punk was because they were tired of Cena after a couple of months punk was boring and people needed back Cena or Ortan

[@grammysworld5449]

@@joelhighlight6231 no you're just a casual fan.. Punk was over in WWE since 2009 and Cena got boring 2 years before Punk even got there.. Real Fans knew and respected Punk from his TNA and ROH runs.. Punk had a majority of his fans before he left the ECW brand Lmaooooo

[@abcsin6526]

@@joelhighlight6231 no it isn't..its you only

[@abcsin6526]

@@grammysworld5449 exactly!!!I didn't know about his roh run but I became fan of him,after pipebomb

[@grammysworld5449]

@abcsin6526 they ruined him on purpose after that.. Idk why because Punk and Heyman was gold every week trolling fans and being funny..

[@TakerKaneanite619]

14 more minutes of Heyman? Don't mind if I do.

[@johnblaydes2905]

I could listen to Paul talk all day.

[@urimbrati1099]

I’m back here in 2021 I would never be tired listening to him

[@MilMaska]

"Thats right. Im a Paul Heyman guy. You know who else was a Paul Hayman guy ? Brock Lesnar" - CM Punk

[@gtgamesnapz]

"And he split! Just like I'm splittin! "

[@ianlyon6224]

@@gtgamesnapz “except I’ll be leaving g with the wwe championship”

[@mrh9120]

"I've grabbed so many of Vincent k McMahons brass rings that it's finally dawned upon me that they're just that. They're completely imaginary "

[@prakharshrivastav127]

The only thing that's real is me and the fact that day in and day out for almost 6 years I have proven myself in the ring even in the commentary nobody can touch me

[@gtgamesnapz]

No matter how many times I prove it ... Im not on your lovely little collector cups I'm not on the cover of the program, I'm barely promoted I don't get to be in movies, certainly no crappy show on the USA Network"

[@sameerkashyap1750]

"How do you turn CM Punk heel in Chicago? Make it more difficult. Make him turn heel on John Cena."😂😂

[@indrakanthshenoy3248]

😂😂😂 yeah that's what you an impossible level challenge....Paul and punk did great together.😊

[@gourangkapoor6214]

Paul's impression of Vince is the best ever!

[@greenkidd529]

"Paul! give me a huggie!"

[@Grayson_Baker]

"Draw me money"

[@Godz]

History was made from their outstanding exchange between Paul and CM punk 11:31.

[@Lynn_Shae0915]

Who’s cm punch

[@leowato4392]

Just saw u edit it live lmao never happened to me before

[@TheDON914]

@@Lynn_Shae0915 🤣

[@Bonnysnipes]

Unpopular opinion: punk vs Lesnar was a underrated classic. Feel as punk got some of the best work out of Lesnar since his return at that time...maybe even to this day

[@steakkidneypie767]

Definitely

[@undisputed_54]

Punk, Bryan, and Joe brought out the best in Brock since his return if you want my humble opinion. All 3 matches were incredible!

[@shepja87]

And it'll never get the recognition it deserves until/unless Punk and WWE remedy a more formal relationship.

[@jaybarbieri8619]

@@undisputed_54 Rollins too

[@HEYitzED]

That was Lesnar’s last great performance.

[@geezushasrisen]

“I was forgotten.” Forgotten by WHO?? I stopped watching wrestling in 2009 and I STILL loved Heyman.

[@CarlosXPhone]

He's not wrong, though. I didn't know about Paul Heyman until CM Punk, then Brock. I know about ECW, but I don't know Paul.

[@SCBLGamingFilm]

that little giggle where he almost breaks character ... almost

[@TheDON914]

Punk the reason both hayman & brock cameback to the company GIVE HIM CREDIT

[@jacobunofficial1146]

@Shogun Shi nope Cena did nothing

[@jacobunofficial1146]

@Shogun Shi lol jokes on you Brock never liked to work with Cena.

[@shreyampandey1952]

Can someone tell me what plane incident he was talking about? I have actually no idea about it.

[@jaybarbieri8619]

@Delta Sev Brock respected him but he hated working with him. Brock loved Punk and loved working with him

[@HeadShotBoy_123]

@Delta Sev brock hate him

[@dod6031]

Storytelling is an art form in itself and Paul Heyman is one hell of a story teller.

[@idsie2]

CM Punk made WWE interesting together with AJ, who else does that these days - Edit should have made it clear I meant his wife AJ, not AJ Styles.

[@The-Marinho]

Our Tribal Chief

[@philo2189]

aj came way after punk left

[@SamuelDuplessis12]

@@philo2189 I think he's talking about Punk's wife not AJ Styles.

[@philo2189]

@@SamuelDuplessis12 oh shit forgot about her. Her and page def made the women's division better. And the other girl who was dieseled and did the spear. AJ came out dressed as her one time.

[@SWyrick366]

Last time WWE was interesting was when AJ Styles was WWE Champion.

[@brandeno919]

Them two together is like putting your best friend in a group project that your class clowns with

[@indrakanthshenoy3248]

😂😂😂🎉

[@ltdee1970]

What Paul Heyman is doing with Roman right now shows you how great he is

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Roman Reigns should've had Paul Heyman from right after the Shield break up.

[@dakotasantersiro5622]

We need more Paul Heyman unfiltered like this. I'm angry it took me so long to genuinely like him. I hated him as a kid and that's because kid me is an idiot. I became a Paul Heyman guy after I bought his wwe documentary.

[@kgot7436]

You hated him as a kid because he did his job. You were supposed to hate him. It’s actually a compliment.

[@ltbryad6045]

@@kgot7436 I’m pretty sure almost if not all greats and legends were top heels at some point

[@kgot7436]

@@ltbryad6045 Bret hart is the only great I can think of that didn’t have a monster heel run. I don’t count wcw because they shit the bed with him.

[@AkaAkahige]

@@kgot7436 yeah there's that john dude too

[@afikkusan]

Heel character are intended to be hated, or else the script planned for the heel might get ruined, or in some case heels got too loved, they had to rearrange storyline.

[@AlexM-iw1kd]

8:52 Paul laughing at his own (great) joke, amazing.

[@dicloniusgames]

Well fuck, I'll see 'ya Monday. Best response ever.

[@strawverry2845]

Yeah

[@mrboombastic4664]

💯

[@Lynn_Shae0915]

Cm punk was definitely the reason I started back watching wwe

[@Danny-xx3oy]

At least cm punk is good at wrestling. In ufc his trash lol

[@TheDON914]

BIG FACTS

[@TheDON914]

@@Danny-xx3oy nobody from wwe are good fighters irl , so that's not saying much TBH 🤷

[@oldmanbillybob8513]

@@TheDON914 Brock Lesnar

[@TheDON914]

@@oldmanbillybob8513 got stale

[@nightlordnorris4446]

Man, Heyman is such a good speaker. The guy is not only a great heel, and manager but also just a great storyteller. I was really hooked. I could listen to his WWE stories all damn day.

[@bellicoso]

cant wait to see these two together again

[@gravenwolf6535]

Paul Heyman is truly a legend like no other.

[@DarthMeteos]

There is nobody- repeat- _nobody_ that tells a story like Paul Heyman. I could listen to this man talk about buying wallpaper for his house and it'd be riveting.

[@Oh_I_Will]

Great talker…too bad he didn’t know Jack about handling business affairs in a wrestling org

[@knightshousegames]

Him and The Rhodes Brothers are just endlessly entertaining.

[@matthewhindi6368]

Paul is such a captivating speaker, so funny and enticing to watch

[@stuckenlos7009]

"see your kids at wrestlemania too" 😂😂

[@charongold6532]

His impersinations of Vince are immortal man...never gets old 😂😂😂 He's so good at telling stories like those that you can easilly imagine beeing there with him.

[@anachronologist2017]

CM Punk & Paul Heyman are a wrestling dream team. I would love to see them do something new with AEW considering what Kenny and Don Callis are doing at the moment.

[@timothy4011]

Omg are you AEW fans blind? That stuff ISNT. GOOD.

[@connorkimbral3034]

@@timothy4011 Better than 99% of what WWE is now

[@grunt-sw8si]

Omega and Callis aren't even good enough to carry Punk's and Heyman's luggage.

[@MrBeenus]

​@@connorkimbral3034😬😬😬

[@thejbuff]

i could listen to Paul tell stories for the rest of my life & never get tired of it

[@richlor92]

For some reason everybody that has worked in the WWE can do an amazing impression of Vince Mcmahon

[@JackgarPrime]

He has such a cartoon voice you can really put in the exagerration

[@TerrellMatthews]

I already know their chemistry was natural because CM Punk talked about how Paul advocated for him early on in his career + they’re both LEGENDS on the mic. I wish the WWE would’ve done what they needed to keep him happy so we got more of the Punk-Heyman team.

[@Bavdingo]

Respect for CM Punk just went up. Everything was off the cuff!

[@Hepausesshaving182GGMU]

Punk turning heel and teamin with cm punk WAS ONE OF BEST RUNS IN HIS CARRER SECOND BEST THING HE DID SINCE SES

[@Hepausesshaving182GGMU]

Teaming with HEYMAN

[@MrBeenus]

Punk and Cm Punk together was amazing

[@ozziegreene8108]

Heyman is a great Storyteller.

[@thewab1974]

I could listen to Heyman read a phone book. THAT’S how good a talker he is.

[@VenomEffects]

Paul can do a spot on "Vince" impersonation ... damn that was a sharp and accurate voice!

[@MaxMawGames]

I could listen to Heyman talk the whole day and wouldn’t be bored

[@LexysHereAfter]

Paul Heyman and Kevin Smith tell the best damn stories about their respective crafts

[@peteypopsGazeIntoTheAbyss]

Born raconteurs.

[@frankbonini9128]

That'd Be an Interesting Podcast or Interview ... Kevin Smith & Paul Heyman

[@samarthyarishabh5727]

I can spend an entire day listening to Cm punk stories 🖤

[@wasteville_productions3451]

I honestly hope he eventually writes a book one day. Doesn't even have to be a autobiography. He just got incredible insights into the wrestling business.

[@CzarAice01]

i'm convinced that everyone in the wwe has a great vince mcmahon impression

[@mikedip76]

I didn't want this to end, Paul Heyman and CM punk together was amazing. I wasn't excited for wrestling every week like I was with them

[@AkaAkahige]

well... maybe you'll get your wish

[@MPPharaoh]

I remember like yesterday when CM punk got in the car and it pulled off slowly and Paul Heyman was driving. That was crazy 🔥🔥🔥

[@ultimatestoryteller]

*8:37* Vince : "oh goddamn I'd like to see your kids at WrestleMania". Paul : "oh thank you I'd like to see your kids at WrestleMania too". *Lmao Paul Heyman is such an awesome storyteller I can literally listen to him for hours without taking a break.*

[@b-rye223]

The fact that nobody in that crowd knew of Prince is crazy to me...

[@KentrellJones1017]

Ikr

[@fernandoreyes680]

Fr that's messed up

[@b-rye223]

@@fernandoreyes680 really goes to show that it really is mainly kids that watch the product now lmao

[@Blackout.1644]

He died on my mom’s 50th birthday

[@shreyampandey1952]

Can someone tell me what plane incident he was talking about? I have actually no idea about it.

[@andreas798]

Punk did deserved better. I really enjoy Paul's interviews. Punk was the biggest name, since the attitude era's great, SCSA and THE ROCK, and other than Cena. Punk is a modern day legend.

[@andreas798]

@Lujack Shaw I mean, I guess you might not like Punk, and I get it. Opinions differ.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

CM Punk as an anti-authority antihero would've worked.

[@andreas798]

@@jasondyrkacz8270 yeah!

[@KA-rw6dm]

@Lujack Shaw keep crying

[@andreas798]

@P1 Styles yup

[@jordandabbs9805]

Dude is an AMAZING story teller and hes hilarious, I love it

[@chriscoe3045]

If he firmly believes it in his heart. Isn't that how it's supposed to be. That's what's missing these days.

[@ec5018]

I was so big on Punk in 06 and 07 and on 2011 when he finally broke out it was amazing to see then 2014 happened ........ hopefully he comes back I miss him in wwe

[@regulardadhere8832]

Hey yo! He’s back in wrestling. 👍

[@chrisarney8265]

... They really don't know "Purple Rain" or Prince?

[@GeekExtremist]

I find this hard to believe considering everyone automatically knew Velveteen Dream was a take on Prince.

[@KasinaMedeis]

@@GeekExtremist maybe at the time

[@crist3809]

i dont even know ,maybe because im not american?

[@GeekExtremist]

@@crist3809 That makes sense

[@shreyampandey1952]

Can someone tell me what plane incident he was talking about? I have actually no idea about it.

[@sph3re]

13:58 This is, uh, _mindblowing information._ CM Punk didn't know what he was going to say before he went out there? So all of those bangers were just off the cuff? Good _lord._

[@ravenlit]

That's one of the reasons he's a legend.

[@danielnichols4228]

"Do one of those flippy-dippy things like Jeff Hardy" "I don't do one of those flippy-dippy things like Jeff Hardy!" 😂

[@ziegfeld4131]

Jeff Hardys flippy dippy things destroyed his body the swanton bomb was terrible for his back

[@ProfJasonX]

Paul is on a savant level of intelligence and brilliance in story telling

[@chaysejordan1544]

The thing about Heyman is how good he can tell a story he could make you hate a pencil

[@jaeoen5636]

@3:53 it sounds like he says “and niggas looked at me like I was nuts” 😂

[@goober1022]

I love Paul man, he's so good at what he does, I used to hate him when I was a kid bruh mannn good memories.

[@krazyeman4]

"I want to see your kids at WrestleMania!" "Good, I want to see YOUR kids at WrestleMania." made me legit lol

[@rioducci4798]

Punk's old theme was 🔥🔥🔥

[@xthevortexknightx6356]

I would love to meet this man at a convention or something. He is so knowledgable and I could listen to him for hours. I hope one day he gets a podcast, that would be amazing!

[@devinaschenbrenner2683]

I wish there was more of this, I love listening to Paul talk

[@SketchBlakely]

Brock and Heyman is the prototypical team of brawn and brains in action. They work beautifully together. Brock never needed to talk, but when he did, it did mean something. “Say something stupid, Paul.” The genius of Punk and Heyman was that their characters were both conversationalists that got where they were by outsmarting other people. Punk/Heyman was more like a comedic duo than most manager pairings. More akin to Fry and Laurie than they would be Andre and Bobby. The work was awesome because of its freshness at the time.

[@DanteDH2]

"Dont hurt me dont hurt me" turns to *great Vince McMahon impression*

[@tdsthedevilsadvocate7111]

I love this man's sense of humour

[@PalmerPerspectivePodcast]

I could listen to Paul Heyman's stories for an eternity

[@CK2008able]

Cannot wait for the first segment back between these two!

[@jeanc3167]

Paul is just gold!! Seeing how funny he is in real life away from wwe cameras is just amazing!!

[@SamsarasArt]

Paul Heyman's impression of Vince is perfect.

[@djdannyd816]

CM Punk & Paul Heyman 👑

[@notsmii7y]

Dude I could sit here all day and listen to heyman talk about regular shit and still be hooked on what he says

[@slumpdawg4156]

“THE SHIT WE’RE GONNA STIR” 😂 CM Punk took that personally

[@jkokubu1984]

Heyman is such a great, natural storyteller.

[@seabassmcbigfat]

Loved growing up with the show and now it’s like getting to enjoy a whole other lane of enjoying your favorite guys.

[@chunky9791]

9:09 Classic wiseman right there!

[@jakeohalloran952]

Heyman is an incredible guy at story telling.

[@IIDROGOSII]

God I love Paul Heyman! He is the absolute best. More than Vince or the majority of wrestlers...Heyman makes me tune in . Very FEW stand above him in the Industry for me

[@CarlJohnson831]

14:15 Umm excuse me I was enjoying that

[@thunder21x]

I’d listen to this man talk all day…

[@davsavchav]

On Jericho he said Morris Day and Jerome and realised how old he was 😆

[@stephenharper9961]

I think this is why Paul heyman is the best mind in the history of the business, his versatility to do different things

[@djdangergaming8708]

I was in the crowd when Punk FULLY turned into a Paul Heyman Guy. I was 8 and I lost my mind

[@fragdq]

Damn, his impression of Vince and his voice is amazing. What a talent

[@Cluv22]

Did Paul just try to make a Morris Day and Jerome reference? Lol. Thats awesome

[@kamerenhalk8355]

Growing up I hated Paul Heyman, but being an adult now and seeing how genuine of a person Paul Heyman really is I have to admit.... I'M A PAUL HEYMAN GUY!!

[@someguywithtoast9776]

Heyman making me laugh is something I'd never say.

[@FSMusicLTD]

Shame there was no response to the Purple Rain reference because Paul's comparison with him and Punk with Morris Day and Jerome is great

[@johnking3135]

I need a full hour of Paul Heyman, please

[@simpvanas]

With Punk back in the WWE, I hope Heyman betrays Roman to side with CM for one last ride.

[@sppsports2449]

I feel like the only person who is in touch with what wrestling fans want in the WWE is Paul Heyman. A true living legend. There was always an edge to Heyman, and his impact on professional wrestling is timeless.

[@MinimiMax]

And this is why it's nuts that he's the one whose wrestling company went out of business. If only he had someone rich to back home up, ECW could still be going strong.

[@Blackhawk211]

I guess you haven't heard of Jim Cornette?

[@guess6635]

@@Blackhawk211 the guy stuck in 70's Mid South Wrestling philosophy??

[@Blackhawk211]

@@guess6635 Jim invented the hell in a cell. That was 97. He is behind the attitude era

[@guess6635]

@@Blackhawk211 hr invented that yes but left shortly afterwards from that department... how could he "invented it" if that was litterally everything he hated about wrestling and didn't want?? Russo was the head writer during that time doing what Jim wasn't doing at the time and making wrestling relevant.

[@christianmatico9689]

Paul Hartman needs to have his own podcast

[@JnEricsonx]

Suprised he doesnt.