Insights on Aboriginal Culture with Shirley Crane

[@lauritzmelchoir9275]

This account of life in Katherine deserves a wide audience.

[@ix-Xafra]

13 years ago I dated a woman who'd had a 12 month contract working with indigenous affairs in NSW. She had been a stay at home mum for 20 years and was now earning $90k / year and mostly attended conferences in 5Star Hotels with other women like herself. In the year of her contract, she visited the indigenous community she worked for twice briefly on day trips. She was quite amused at how government funds for indigenous affairs was being used to keep many white women in jobs that did nothing!

[@tonyryan43]

Not all of them are white. Curreently there are investigations into Aboriginal fraud running to the billions in the NT. Not one of these criminals speaks an Aboriginal language or knows anything about the culture, They are paid for their sun tan, nothing else.

[@henrydodd7001]

Many such cases...

[@jamesdanton9033]

Yup, my father worked at an Abo dental center. They hated him because he was white and heard them say so, the car park was always full of brand new Land Cruisers, the shelves always triple stocked with supplies that just went to waste because next to none of the patients turned up to appointments or couldn't be located when the Land Cruiser fleet was deployed. It was a complete wealth transfer scam.

[@nikitaw1982]

Sounds about right. Feminists and government seem natural allies.

[@dayamitrasaraswati6276]

I love the honesty of this great lady!

[@user-tq4zm9yr6l]

This is exactly as it is.Well said Shirley

[@rosriggs9728]

Wow.... that is honesty for you. Well said Shirley Crane. It also highlights the massive problems. And throwing billions at it, is not working.

[@klausmuhlhoff1464]

This is Heart breaking

[@JimboJones-f3r]

What good are handouts to those not educated enough to invest it wisely. It goes right back into the hand of the provider. Easier said then done but it's needs to be invested into a specific education system that is catered to the younger generation. Edit Shirley just said the same thing ^

[@jamesdanton9033]

Big wealth transfer scheme.

[@anordenaryman.7057]

If this video was made compulsory viewing and topic for discussion at every high school and university it would change the country for the better. It would also force many government departments to be declared not fit for purpose. That will never happen. It would force many aboriginal leaders / elders to address the problems in the communities instead of saying it is all the white man's fault. Sadly, that is not likely to happen either. She is absolutely correct...money makes the world go around. But free money is the root of all evil. When you hand out large sums of money evil just keeps going around. And that evil will ensure that this video is never seen.

[@monsel97]

The dance was just made up. I remember E Dingo taking about that many years ago on a tv show.

[@patrussell8917]

The Gap widened when Reconciliation entered Indigenous don't like education silly fella stuff taking kids from school refusing to send them trashing education promoting own cultures yet most locals in Qld or NT know Welfare is killing their imagination or aptitude to work

[@JamieNelson-v4f]

Amazing lady . I think the first big step we need to take is to tell the pretend aboriginals on the eastern states that they just need to allow real Aboriginal people to do the jobs, because they're not getting anywhere. Also with family conflicts and that sort of thing how can you have people on the eastern states looking after people in the northern territory? The reason why they keep talking about changing the day and what they want to be called is so they don't actually have to do any real work

[@GenproEnterprises]

Captain Cook reported very similar to this in his journal stating the Indigenous people lacked the ability to work, this was from after they slipped the Endeavor to fix it from hitting the reef which is called Cook Town today. They encountered clashes with locals and eventually captured some. I personally witnessed the barochory of the local Alice Springs Aboriginals when I was working there back in 1978 so nothing has changed. Even after listening to Shirley Crane she told us all of the problems the local white population are injuring but no solutions. She would have seen all the Government schemes come and go with little to no effect, so what is the answer? As she mentioned this is probably playing itself out in most of the Aboriginal communities and billions of tax payers money is spent to try and rectify the problems. It is very clear the Aboriginal people are not of one culture and they have their own set of language and rules which would have been the way before Whiteman ever set foot here. The evidence is evident from the lack of Aboriginal population across the cotenant. From being in country for 65,000 years there should be at least 45,000 of them but there was at best 1 million when White settlement came. In fact they were on the brink of extinction. The reason for lack of numbers was waring and killing each other over limited resources and having their own form of birth control which was either killing the baby at birth or simple abandoning the child. The other evidence they were never at one is the 700 plus languages there was. No one has the answers to try and simulate these people into the Australian way of life. Maybe the solution is to just leave them alone.

[@geoffreyfulton-ko1fu]

So true from my personal experience!

[@tonyryan43]

Basically, what you have demonstrated is that, like Shirley, you misinterpret all that you see because you lack transcultural abilities. This seems common to all English-speakers, but especially Americans and Australians.

[@graemesydney38]

@@tonyryan43 What is "transcultural abilities" and what has it to do with the issues? These are human observations of other humans - no special qualifications are needed. There are contemporary written accounts by objective observers that describe personal and collective interactions between aboriginals. They weren't pretty - fighting for territory, raids on other clans for women, wife beatings, etc..

[@tonyryan43]

@@graemesydney38 They were mosty the misinterpretations of profoundly ignorant people who judge everything by the measure of their own life experiences... ie their culture. I can see this goes right over your head. Nevertheless, a good example was the response to a paper I wrote in the 1970s, pointing out that a survey of Top End Aborigines shows 60% were teetotalers, and had never even tasted alcohol. Most whites were incredulous because they presumed every Aborigine was a replica of the drunks they observed in fringe camps. Some of these whites refused to believe the evidence because it was more important to them to believe in white supremacy, in any shape or form. Not surprisingly, these were centred overwhelmingly in Katherine; also the source of the local KKK. Ironically, since "government began helping them", that 60% non-drinkers had fallen to 40% in two decades. It is probably lower now. Like all realms of knowledge, it takes hard-won information and painful insights to comprehend the truth and this is never achieved by those who observe remotely from their couch.

[@graemesydney38]

@@tonyryan43 Wow, your arrogance is only exceeded by your narrow minded stupidity. I can quite believe you are a self righteous, self satisfied, self important, know-it-all academic. You sure like to use the sweeping generalisation tar brush. Shirley's commonsense observations and honesty are far closer to reality than anything you have posted.

[@captainmanic]

How to close the gap. 1. Get an education. 2. Get a job. 3. Stay out of trouble. 4. Stop blaming your problems on everyone else. Gap closed with no handouts and no more racist bullshit `cultural` excuses.

[@scottjones6921]

I think as Shirley is saying, the issues are deeper cultural issues that need to be eliminated first.

[@JamieNelson-v4f]

Also there are no jobs

[@_nebulousthoughts]

Don't teach your kids "you'll never amount to anything cause the white man will keep you down".

[@kayrushton1108]

Culture

[@DrWoofOfficial]

Government is too focused on making sure we capitalise the C in Country

[@tracywhiteing8414]

What is their obsession with smashing glass?

[@nickabrahall1412]

Maximum damage for minimum effort

[@JamieNelson-v4f]

Because they've been taught by the white Aborigines to hate normal white people so that's what they do

[@precillaboota3362]

FYI - She is referring to one group of First Nation communities ONLY.

[@JamieNelson-v4f]

Yes I believe she said that and they're not first nations they're Aboriginal . As she said they fought they weren't a nation.

[@southern-samurai]

“First Nations” is not a term relevant to this country. It was only used to legally bind treaties between the French and English and Indian tribes in North America. They had to call them Nations for legal purposes only as treaties could only be recognised if it were between Nation states.

[@JamieNelson-v4f]

@@southern-samurai there's also the thing of the white Aboriginal women that have been paid enormous amounts of money . Now if they decide they want to be called first nations that involves thousands of meetings meaning that they don't actually have to address what's actually going on in the bush . All these symbolic things are to make sure they don't actually have to do any real work

[@Luna-ki3rj]

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[@tonyryan43]

Correction: this is not a kreole/kriole. It is pidgen English, comprised of one Aboriginal language word derivative for every 17 English words that are modified to accommodate Aboriginal phonetics. Pidgen is very destructive because Songlines cannot be conveyed in pidgen, only in each tribe's language; so two entire generations have lost that culture. This woman's overview is so distant from reality or informed insight that I cannot justify commenting on her extraordinarily ignorant narrative. For viewers/readers, here is a word of advice, if the person describing Aboriginal culture does not speak an Aboriginal language, they know nothing. Actually, as this silly women is doing, her misinformation is actually execerbating the problem.

[@shirleycrane8787]

Probably around half the people identifying as Indigenous don’t speak an Indigenous language, but they don’t seem to have any trouble thinking they have the right to speak for all Indigenous people. By the look of things, a few of them were spokespeople for the referendum. By your standards, none of them should have had anything to say on the issues and I’m not inclined to argue on that point. As for the rest of your reply, I’ve spent a very long lifetime living with these issues, so too bad if you don’t like my perspective. If you take note, it’s a personal point of view of someone who has to live with the outcomes every day. My home town is in the process of ‘dying the death of a thousand cuts’ with what’s happening here. If you don’t live here (and I have no idea where you live), you probably don’t have to factor those outcomes into your daily life. Lucky you!

[@shirleycrane8787]

I’m a bit confused about your comment on Kriol. It is, in fact, one of the most widely spoken language variants in the country and is now regarded as a language in its own right. It is not pidgin English.

[@tonyryan43]

@@shirleycrane8787 You misjudge me. I live variously, in Darwin and homelands in East Arnhem, depending upon work requirements. Most of my family is Aboriginal. I speak Dhuwal and to a lessor extent, Dhangu languages. My background in Aboriginal culture goes back to 1971. I represented the Commonwealth Government (Welfare Branch) until self government, and then the Department of Community Development (Welfare) in many communities, but primarily in Arnhem Land. In 1977, I demanded an end to ignorant white people launching tragic and pointless interventions into Aboriginal families (now the distorted Stolen Generation fabricated history). In 1979, backed by tough cop Dave Walter of Maranboy,, we used Aboriginal Law to transition basket case criminal community Bamyili, into showcase Burunga that it became pretty much overnight. Petrol sniffing, juvenile crime, and adult crime ceased abruptly. I currently record Aboriginal Law for the YNA Recognition Project and produced the paper "Causes of Aboriginal Illhealth" that has the bureaucrats and activists worried. Australia-wide, less than 0.2 % speak languages but in Katherine, you are probably right at 50%, mostly because of migration from Arnhem Land. For your information, the Voice Referendum was launched by Paul Liebler, President of the Zionist Federation and supported by urban part Aborigines, pretend Aborigines, and gullible white upper-middle class public servants. The goal was to divide Australia and dismantle all ownership of land. Meanwhile, what you have done is make my work a whole lot more difficult by injecting another shot of homespun white misconceptions into the narrative.

[@ix-Xafra]

I did a quick search and wikipedia (It is what it is) states that kriol is a language derived from pidgin en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Kriol

[@tonyryan43]

@@ix-Xafra That about sums up your knowledge skills.