Insta360 Ace Pro 2 In-Depth Review: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

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DC Rainmaker

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@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Note: Somehow I forgot to mention the price, which is $399USD or $419 with a dual-battery bundle. Doh!
2 ай бұрын
In Europe it's 486,17 USD 😮. With single battery
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 2 ай бұрын
No fluff and no ads, just info and facts. I have currently Pocket 3 as my main camera, X4 for 360 shots and H12 for cycling/skiing/climbing. Though I have been thinking of selling H12 and getting something that would fare better in low light. During winter we only have 1-2h of daylight here in Finland. Any suggestions 😅
@kjdtm
@kjdtm 2 ай бұрын
europe sux ! everything is more expensive !!! and importing just became a nightmare !
@nrs8043
@nrs8043 2 ай бұрын
In Aus, they’re selling it $100 over the conversion rate. Massive price grab. Now it makes sense to get the alternative. Insta just priced themselves out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@georgedoolittle9015
@georgedoolittle9015 2 ай бұрын
The AI starting to have its first real World impacts the biggest change will be ending the drop down menus although the overlay function from phone to camera is amazing all 3 offerings look great but the purpose behind The AI is to take the thinking out of these devices and use them to create the maximum amount of footage possible both raw and in post production so huge improvements in 2024 in particular for GoPro with battery life making some noise to convince buyers to part with some scratch but still no compelling *"AI Wonder"* yet for imaging and sound with the new Apple iPhone camera button the first offer at "let's go backwards with something new to remind everyone how this stuff really works." Verdict: always underwhelms always brings buyer's remorse prepare for moar of both😊😊
@MainelyElectrons
@MainelyElectrons 2 ай бұрын
Perfect! My Hero 9 black is showing its age.
@tayloreke
@tayloreke Ай бұрын
It was interesting to hear your take on the underwater footage. Every other review I watched regarding underwater footage goes to the ace pro 2.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker Ай бұрын
As noted, it looks prettier at first glance, but isn't represenative of the scene - and the goggles *very* clearly illustrated that.
@joshgolo
@joshgolo 2 ай бұрын
Top video. the action camera that pulls in stats so easy is why i would choose 360 over dji and gopro. Cant wait for your new hoover drone reviews. Your video will make my decision. Hope they release them from customs soon
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Indeed the sports file connectivity is best in class, so good. As for Hover, still stuck in customs. :(
@GrumpyGoat
@GrumpyGoat 2 ай бұрын
Great review. I was especially interested int eh Ace Pro / Ace Pro 2 comparison as GoPro is dead to me ... they have been bypassed and their [un]reliability is still an issue for me. Thanks again.
@ricarmig
@ricarmig 2 ай бұрын
Excellent review! For my taste the insta360 Ace Pro 2 is MUCH better than the rest: from the resolution, dynamic range and night mode. I have the 1 and it’s already fantastic! @DC Rainmaker : where are those underwater shots? So clear water…
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
All in Mallorca (Spanish island). Cheers!
@OneSingleBreath
@OneSingleBreath Ай бұрын
As mentioned by quite a few other folks,… THANK YOU. You‘re the only guy by now, that I still fully trust. Of course I wasn’t surprised, that some Companies try to influence what is said and shown about their products on YT. And this has to be condemned of course. But the ongoing bashing of Brands in Reviews of products by other Brands isn’t helpful at all. So,… Thank You for being honest and fair regarding the products. As you teased the possibility of another comparison,… I would highly appreciate it. I can’t decide wether to go with the OA5 Pro or the Ace Pro 2. I don’t color correct in the post,… so I‘m just looking for the best out of cam Material regarding picture quality and Sound. A big plus would be the Feature of programmable Recording on the OA 5 Pro. For example to capture sunrises. On the other hand I‘m a bit stunned that the mounting of the DJI in comparison to the Insta 360 seems to be a bit loose. Anyway,… I‘ll wait with my purchase until your next Video on the cameras.
@Alexskiing
@Alexskiing 17 күн бұрын
Again the best action cam reviews!
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 2 ай бұрын
Great video and you connected a lot of dots of the Ace Pro series and where Insta360 is going with this camera and the demographic they are targeting, obviously it's working ;)
@BobBroeking
@BobBroeking 2 ай бұрын
I know you cannot compare the Ace Pro with the Insta360 X3/4 but I rarely use my 360 camera now due to the amount of effort it takes in post production. Doubt the Ace pro will interest me. Also left Go Pro for the DJI Osmo 5 and the Mic2's... perfect for my YT needs. Your videos are useful content on YT as always! thank you. Bob
@thejjtp
@thejjtp 2 ай бұрын
I have so much x3 unedited footage 😂... Technically ace pro from my last trip too. I'm bad at editing and doing stuff with the footage....
@BobBroeking
@BobBroeking 2 ай бұрын
@@thejjtp yes as a YTuber I can edit hours of regular action camera video to minutes in a few hours but with the 360 it’s an extra step to go through the footage and frame the shot you want and then save it as a USABLE video clip. Did not mean to get this off topic and it’s good there are 3 major action cameras on the market now and we have choices past GoPro… sticking with DJI Osmo for the future
@FFTuk
@FFTuk Ай бұрын
@@BobBroekinggot to give a shout-out for the insta360 studio app to edit 360 footage. It’s as easy as it can be really, but I’m also guilty of having loads of unedited footage from it. It has saved me in a pinch though when something happens off camera and the 360 has come to the rescue capturing it, albeit in quality only good enough to view on a phone screen 🤣
@BobBroeking
@BobBroeking Ай бұрын
@@FFTuk That is right if it happens around you the 350 will capture it. I have been using the PC studio to do my editing but maybe the app is slightly easier… I have learned not to shoot “hours” of 360 footage but rather snippets when something interesting may happen in my videos. Otherwise just too much to process. I can go through hours of my POV action camera footage pretty efficiently and no post processing required.
@FFTuk
@FFTuk Ай бұрын
@@BobBroeking exactly, short bursts of footage or interesting shots that can only be created with 360 cameras are cool. Long format is always a pain to sort through. The PC based and mobile device versions are pretty similar, but strangely I don’t think you can add soundtracks to the footage in the Pc version in the studio software which people get really annoyed with
@effuseakay
@effuseakay 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos my friend. Clear, valuable, honest and straight to the point. Keep going ❤
@TalmageBryson
@TalmageBryson Ай бұрын
Great video! Awesome to see an unsponsored videographer discussing the insta 360 vs other action cams.
@davet9633
@davet9633 2 ай бұрын
Once again the best review on youtube. My go to reviewer! Thanks!
@adifeier
@adifeier 2 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that now the lens cover is removable.
@mrcycling7007
@mrcycling7007 2 ай бұрын
Another straight talking, honest and very informative review! 👊🏼
@DougBow96
@DougBow96 2 ай бұрын
Excellent review, watched to the end 👍💪 Thank you for your honesty and style.
@tonygoinggonzo
@tonygoinggonzo 2 ай бұрын
Awesome review, as always Ray! If I had to nitpick, it would be to suggest that you keep the orientations of the camera feeds consistent. For example, when you have all three cameras showing, DJI is left, GoPro center, and 360 right. But when you dropped down to just DJI and 360, you swapped them left to right, example at 2:20. Maybe it's just me, but it took a bit in my mind to "switch" the two streams.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think that's the only one that was off somehow. I only noticed it after publishing. My bad!
@tonygarlick7775
@tonygarlick7775 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for maintaining your integrity.
@ArlindoOliveira81
@ArlindoOliveira81 26 күн бұрын
Yo, that video comparison of those cameras was dope! Thanks a ton for sharing your stuff, man.
@FabrizioNannini
@FabrizioNannini 2 ай бұрын
You’re the only toutuber I’m not watching at 2X speed. Man, your mind CPU rocks!
@Kam-r9l
@Kam-r9l 2 ай бұрын
Great review, straight to the point! Kudos to you! I’m leaning more towards the DJI Action 5 now.
@rhenceocampo3253
@rhenceocampo3253 2 ай бұрын
The only reviewer I trust
@dadfixdit
@dadfixdit 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Ray! Always can count on you for your honesty!
@collin3000
@collin3000 2 ай бұрын
They had me at having the same sensor as my Action 5 Pro. They lost me at still 8-bit video. Having 13.5 stops of dynamic range and neutering it to 8-bit is properly maddening. It's like they built a McLaren but then made it only able to hold a single passenger that's shorter than 5 foot 6. Yes, it's technically usable, but you're unnecessarily neutering its full capacity.
@ruicosta3396
@ruicosta3396 2 ай бұрын
It's more like building a McLaren but then limiting it to 50hp. And they even have the audacity to put a log profile in it. What's the point of having log if it shoots in 8-bit and you can't retrieve any detail afterwards? That's actually sad because otherwise it would be a great camera.
@lemdemar6054
@lemdemar6054 Ай бұрын
Dynamic range has nothing to do with 8-bit or 10-bit color space. If that was true, why does the action 5 pro captures less details/textures than the ace pro 2? Lol.
@ruicosta3396
@ruicosta3396 Ай бұрын
@@lemdemar6054 Wrong! DR has everything to do with 8bit vs 10bit and here's why: the entire point of having 13.5 stops of DR is post production. You can recover a lot more highlight and shadow detail with such high DR, ultimately producing a better final rendering. But if you try to do that with 8bit files, you'll end up with A LOT of colour banding. That would be minimised by using 10bit because you would be starting with a lot more colour information. Regarding the comparison of Action 5 Pro vs Ace Pro 2: you're just proving our point because the footage you're talking about is the 8bit footage. Even the Action 4 is better in normal 8bit footage than the 5 Pro. All the cameras mentioned use active HDR and try to fit all the information into an 8bit file. The Action 4 and Ace Pro 2 are better at that conversion. The 5 Pro advantage is that it has much better 10bit footage than the 4 due to the higher dynamic range and by editing, applying LUTs, etc. you can end up with the style of image you like, instead of the one the manufacturer chose.
@lemdemar6054
@lemdemar6054 Ай бұрын
@@ruicosta3396 from all the research I’ve done. We’re both right and wrong. Lol. Dynamic range is not directly related to color depth. So Im right regarding that. Meaning the ace pro 2 is capable of capturing 13.5 stops of dynamic range. You’re right that once you go in post and push the image to the darkest and brightest, it will start to have banding. But, how many of the user base do you think is gonna do that? Even those who bought the action 5 pro for having 10-bit. Also with the amount of videos I watched. What good is the 10 bit if the action 5 pro captures/renders less details and highlights than the ace pro 2, which cannot be recovered in post. Also it doesnt matter how much color space you have, you’re not editing that ugly conshaped lens flare out of the video. That’s one of the reasons why I went with the ace pro 2.
@ruicosta3396
@ruicosta3396 Ай бұрын
@@lemdemar6054 I think you are missing the point. We know what DR is. One is related to the other because in order to use all that DR to our advantage, we need 10bit color depth. You would be surprised at how many content creators use these cameras and shoot in 10bit. But the point you are missing the most is that when you say the footage from the Ace Pro 2 is better, you are comparing 8bit footage from both cameras. In order to do a proper comparison you should put the 8bit footage from Ace Pro 2 against properly edited 10bit footage from the Action 5 Pro, because the thing with the 5 Pro is that I don't have to rely on the camera to have great image quality from the start. I can take all that information and make it a lot better image in post. And yes, the normal 8bit video from the Action 5 Pro isn't the best.
@sullfolife
@sullfolife 2 ай бұрын
Ray, you rock! Thank you for your amazing attitude and we appreciate the transparency. Great work on this video.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated!
2 ай бұрын
Interesting to hear that strong wind noise on the DJI, i've seen other tests (from Dale Stone) and wind noise was basically non-existent. Nice review, still not going to by anything from Insta360 though, once shady, always shady
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Yup, after looking/hearing that clip, I went back to other clips I've recorded over the last while, and once the wind/ground speed hits about 30-35KPH, it kicks in pretty clearly on the Action 5 Pro. Fine at lower speeds.
@VisionMTB
@VisionMTB 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I've noticed that if I use high wind reduction on the DJI 5 it does work on wind, but really mutes the trail sound too making it seem unnatural.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
@@VisionMTB Interesting, I just used defaults (as I usually do). I find that 99% of the time when I dork with any wind/noise reduction settings, I end up making things worse (true on all these cameras). 😂
@VisionMTB
@VisionMTB 2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker I've done a few rides with wind settings and have just gone with foam on the unit. None was a non-starter on the trail without foam or dead cat. High was just too much, you couldn't really hear the trail. Media mod was great on GoPro but no option for that sort of thing with DJI.
@neil527
@neil527 2 ай бұрын
Yes insta360 is very shady and the AI will copy or steal all your video data and store it themselves
@flymypg
@flymypg 2 ай бұрын
Splendid review and overview. I'm still using my phone for action footage due largely to the excellent mounts I've found, which lets the multiple phone sensors show their value and versatility. That said, my favorite webcam is a 4K action cam with a very capable USB webcam mode that, when combined with tools like OBS Studio, lets me dynamically crop the wide view as desired. For example, for various reasons my 3D printer is in the field of view behind me. I can create a separate stream for the printer that allows me to monitor it remotely without needing a dedicated camera. All while keeping the main portrait stream going for things like Zoom. The notion of feeding OBS an 8K view is very tempting!
@erbartlett
@erbartlett 2 ай бұрын
Never change, you are the best
@slick-riq
@slick-riq 2 ай бұрын
I love your reviews DC!
@AdventureVitamins
@AdventureVitamins Ай бұрын
Amazing work on the video as usual your assessment of all action cams is on point. Thank you
@pahoaproductions9991
@pahoaproductions9991 2 ай бұрын
Always love your reviews!
@MrPashee
@MrPashee 2 ай бұрын
We say thanks to the Universe for you, man) Best and honest "active track" reviewer!❤
@sohaibyounus
@sohaibyounus 2 ай бұрын
That’s a solid comparison. I just upgraded my hero 7 black with a 12. The Jump is pretty significant and I am fine with just point and shoot capability and not really into all the other cool options lol. This video was very informative and based on a lot of important details. Keep up the good work!
@torbjornhb
@torbjornhb 2 ай бұрын
Just hit me... If Mr. DC decides that living in Mallorca is so chill, that he doesn't want to review stuff anymore. What should the world do? Thanks for another great review 🌟
@ChosenWon
@ChosenWon Ай бұрын
A great video. I'm switching from GoPro. Thanks.
@zyghom
@zyghom 2 ай бұрын
the "problem" with your reviews is: you don't give a sh..t about their vendors. And we love it. You cannot imagine how many people I met who said: "DC Rainmaker reviewed it - I don't have to think twice as his review is positive!" - that is your image. Please: NEVER EVER CHANGE IT!
@Curtis-Randall
@Curtis-Randall 2 ай бұрын
Hell yea
@RioHusnadyHidayat
@RioHusnadyHidayat 2 ай бұрын
yes we love this
@3runjosh
@3runjosh 2 ай бұрын
yep I am not even interested in getting an action camera but I come here because of the name DC Rainmaker.
@pokketato3002
@pokketato3002 2 ай бұрын
Hi really good videos of showing the advantages of each camera, I also think GoPro with Daylight is the most realistic one, but some times facing underexposed or overexposed problem. What I really wonder is, how do ace pro 2 perform in low light with normal mode? I returned my action 5 pro, but during the time when I using it, I much prefer the normal mode of it other than its supernight mode, I wonder if this would happened to Ace pro 2 or you have to use the night mode and that's its best performance, really want to confirm about it.
@dgutie8
@dgutie8 2 ай бұрын
Great honest review! Thank-you!
@DejanSmaic
@DejanSmaic Ай бұрын
Listen, I've owned almost every generation of GoPros for whitewater kayaking, probably 11 GPs. I now have the Insta360 X4. The nice thing about shooting video in 8K is you can pull larger resolution stills from your video frame. I am sold on the Pro 2 and will probably pick one up this winter at some point.
@flexfashionmagazine2585
@flexfashionmagazine2585 Ай бұрын
Excellent review! Thank you.
@ChazTyldsley
@ChazTyldsley 2 ай бұрын
Action 5 is interestingly consistently sharper with additional detail in daytime footage shown on your comparisons but didn't see that mentioned.
@MrWiseinheart
@MrWiseinheart 2 ай бұрын
Sharper but digitally it doesn't look natural.
@DisgruntledDoomer
@DisgruntledDoomer 2 ай бұрын
@@MrWiseinheart Could have fooled me! And it should have been mentioned, none the less.
@OskaBc1
@OskaBc1 2 ай бұрын
I noticed that too, it just has that slightly bit of more sharpness in some scenarios compared to the other ones. The Ace is really not far off that. Some of the lightning i preferred in the Ace, some i preferred for a dji. (and some day time footage gopro did look more dynamic)
@Mike0193Azul
@Mike0193Azul Ай бұрын
In good daylight, Go Pro 13 looks best by far in all videos i’ve seen. In low-light, generally the Ace Pro 2. I may just get both of them
@dtjmonk
@dtjmonk 15 күн бұрын
no no no gopro sucks now overall!!!
@denissidney4081
@denissidney4081 8 күн бұрын
@@dtjmonk What makes you say that ? Want to know as I am planning to buy one
@dtjmonk
@dtjmonk 6 күн бұрын
@@denissidney4081 i had so many gopro since they were invented when i bought the insta ace pro i was finally shocked at how amazing the video and the way it worked was i will never buy gopro again so buy what you want
@dtjmonk
@dtjmonk 6 күн бұрын
@@denissidney4081 i have the ace pro not the ace pro 2 and was blown away so im getting the ace pro 2 now so sorry but im so done with gopro and the app
@svcyclops
@svcyclops 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for being a reviewer not a shill.
@HoreanAir
@HoreanAir 2 ай бұрын
love you DC!!!!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Ай бұрын
Small note about wind noise test: the ultimate test is when you change directions rather than going straight - so try to make a turn when testing the wind noise, see how much hiss there is. GoPro is insanely good at that, but both DJI and Insta360 are really bad at it.
@IImVoltagee
@IImVoltagee 2 ай бұрын
Amazing review as always, please keep up your work! I would love to see an action camera "round up" with a winners in a few categories e.g. Best value, best overall, best stabilization or something like that. I'm in the market for a camera but it's hard to figure out if I should just buy an older one or not, and which one to pick.
@AlexLepoutre
@AlexLepoutre 2 ай бұрын
How does one get a pre release unit if it’s not sponsored? 🤔
@firstnamelastname5736
@firstnamelastname5736 2 ай бұрын
Because it's Ray we are talking about here. Even a thumbs down from him is still good publicity for the brand.
@ChefIan73
@ChefIan73 2 ай бұрын
Do you really not understand the difference? Getting a loaner piece of equipment to have temporarily allowing you to TEST it vs getting free equipment to keep and getting paid (often by Affiliate Link) are two VERY different things. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@TiagoWolf
@TiagoWolf 2 ай бұрын
You have to be someone that is at least Relevant and can contribute positively to enhance and make cameras better based on your overall tech experience. Yeah basically its that. Relevant content creators can gather all the experience and provide feedback that a brand like insta360 actually applies to their products that's why it's light years ahead of competition. For example dji never updated the dji asteroid for vertical mode. I rather use my insta360 sphere and have all tha 360 flexibility in 5.7k
@dayworkhard
@dayworkhard Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. In short, go pro 13 is the winner for correct color but worst for video shooting at night time. Also insta360 ace pro 2 is the winner for other features such as sound, 8k, overlay data, fast charging, flippable monitor,
@willbermudez2386
@willbermudez2386 Ай бұрын
Its an action camera. Flippable monitor for me its an actual flaw because it makes it more fragile. No 10 bit color rate and less crisp image compared to the other two brands. I already have the gopro 11 so thanks to this video it makes me wanna go buy the action 5. Just mentioning this because all cameras have their flaws.
@jimjimplus
@jimjimplus Ай бұрын
Great as usual, would love chapters/sections in the video though
@joeabrenica4467
@joeabrenica4467 2 ай бұрын
i like your content NO BS!..👍👍👍
@simonkellerer1469
@simonkellerer1469 2 ай бұрын
Hi, loved your video and the comparison. Do you know if the ace pro 2 can fit in the underwater housing of the ace pro 1? Without the microphone ofc. On paper the cameras are the same size 🤔 I still have an unused case of the ace pro laying around. Would be great if the ace pro 2 was compatible with not only the "normal" accessories but also the Dive Case.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
I'll find out. I don't have an Ace Pro UW housing (Ace Pro 1 or Ace Pro 2).
@erik-t5x
@erik-t5x Ай бұрын
A shame you had to cut out that part where you were cycling 96 MPH in a 35 MPH zone...
@T3chWarri0r
@T3chWarri0r 2 ай бұрын
I know it’s bar far not the same but I would be interested in a comparison to the X4 as well especially in underwater scenarios.
@OsvaldoCiprianoSTr
@OsvaldoCiprianoSTr 7 күн бұрын
Nice video, so in your opinion the the insta360 is better then the DJI? I want one camera to film indoor basketball games, do you think that the insta360 is still better then the DJI?
@SupersonicTraveller
@SupersonicTraveller 2 ай бұрын
Awesome camera, indeed. I am wandering how it behaves below 10meters depth. How the colour correction will work. Probably I might to check it.
@Dreoni_
@Dreoni_ 2 ай бұрын
For what I've seen it is significantly better than the others at color correction at depth (Ive seen up to 40m)
@FinnishCaveDiver
@FinnishCaveDiver 2 ай бұрын
Critter Hunter youtuber has some footage in his video from 40m
@SupersonicTraveller
@SupersonicTraveller 2 ай бұрын
@@FinnishCaveDiver so I suppose it was a post-processing of the video. Because Insta360 Ace 2 Pro had a limit of 12meters. I was wondering how it does the video correction, like Osmo action 5 pro does, with the pressure sensor.
@FinnishCaveDiver
@FinnishCaveDiver 2 ай бұрын
@@SupersonicTraveller he had it in a dive case. In his video its compared to GoPro13 which is next to it
@SupersonicTraveller
@SupersonicTraveller 2 ай бұрын
@@FinnishCaveDiver I will check this video. However, as my personal preference, to use the camera without a housing, so it can be used as a normal camera right after exiting from water without removing the case and losing it while carrying all scuba equipment.
@erjonb
@erjonb 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Any timeframe when you plan on doing an indepth comparison of the 3?
@striff
@striff 2 ай бұрын
Few things I like to see if you do a full comparison of all three. Charging time for each. How long they last on a full battery with different resolutions) Weight of them, as I chin mount, weight is very important (and size) Did you use High bit rate option on the DJI, which is available in the latest firmware or when / if doing a comparison to use this.. Also, a big benefit of the DJI is Bluetooth pairing of two DJI Mic's at the same time. Oh lastly like to see MTB and trail running in low light on all three, or even at night with head torches on!..
@danielk7111
@danielk7111 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the blistering pace review lol. Great job. Overall, I came hoping to hear 10 bit was available. Maybe the next iteration.
@lioluq6071
@lioluq6071 2 ай бұрын
great review 👍 is it possible to add macro lens like gopro ?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Nothing at this time.
@infocuslearning
@infocuslearning 2 ай бұрын
If only you had got this video out half an hour earlier, I wouldn’t have had to watch two other reviews first!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, first I got caught in a nasty thunderstorm trying to film the last bits of my b-roll, hosing my by an hour (and drenching me), and then saldy, my internet has decided it's on vacation today, leaving me with apparently dial-up speeds. A literal example of when it rains it poors. Sigh...
@infocuslearning
@infocuslearning 2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker Better late than never. Certainly better than the other two reviews I watched (no names - to save the creators' blushes)
@AlexanderOutdoor
@AlexanderOutdoor 2 ай бұрын
As a IRL live streamer (meaning UVC/RTMP mode). What functions will work? Pure Video? Stabilization? Higher resolutions than 1080p30?
@DisgruntledDoomer
@DisgruntledDoomer 2 ай бұрын
Is there even a single review channel, that specializes in IRL streaming capabilities? Because I haven't seen one. Seems like an untapped niche.
@FinnishCaveDiver
@FinnishCaveDiver 2 ай бұрын
Where you able to pull any data overlays to any of the diving clips you filmed? In Garmin at least most of diving data is the dive app and api for overlay to my knowledge comes from Connect app
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Oh, that's right, let me check. I had asked them weeks ago about doing/showing that, let me download those clips to the phone and pull in the Fenix 8 dive data (which I had). When I asked weeks ago, they said they were going to follow-up and see if it was easy to add.
@FinnishCaveDiver
@FinnishCaveDiver 2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker cheers, because when they released the feature to Insta app, had few tickets about with they support. So it would be good know how its now
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
@@FinnishCaveDiver Ok, I checked. In short, it's not showing depth data yet. It is pulling data from everything else in that file (e.g. distance/HR) though at least.
@FinnishCaveDiver
@FinnishCaveDiver 2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker yep so its the same issue still that had it at launch. The connect has some dive to show if its your latest activity, but not sure if this would help, since reported few bugs from it earlier
@Deathbynature89
@Deathbynature89 2 ай бұрын
Could you do an actual ISO to ISO noise and low light test? What’s interesting is even the DJI Action 4 could go up to ISO 12800 in standard video mode, higher than this year’s Ace Pro 2 and Hero 13. And now the Action 5 does iso 25600 and an expanded iso in Super Night mode.
@rilezbathurst
@rilezbathurst 2 ай бұрын
Can you show off more of the 8k in action and why you are disappointed in it and they don't recommend it?
@nomad0714
@nomad0714 2 ай бұрын
@DCRainmaker, another good review! A few questions/comments: 1) Did you do a near focus distance to see if they fixed this vs AP1? 2) Can you remove the lens cover? 3) Do they use face detection to expose the face?
@brettmcdonald1798
@brettmcdonald1798 2 ай бұрын
How did you find stabilisation and battery life. I record races where I want stabilisation and up to 2 hours using 1080, this is where my older GoPros fall short with battery life
@TheLazyGarden3r
@TheLazyGarden3r 2 ай бұрын
Thoughts on the insta360 go 3s? do you plan to review that?
@marcberry5751
@marcberry5751 Ай бұрын
I am ready to buy one of these 3 latest model cameras. Mainly NOT for night video. To start with, our holiday in Orlando in February/march. As such, which should be best?
@mahd1dz
@mahd1dz 2 ай бұрын
thank you so much
@wv5959
@wv5959 Ай бұрын
Great comparison, but one question: Was the GoPro on HDR mode too in the section "Active HDR"? I've seen other videos that show GoPro handling hard light situations worse, despite having a HDR mode too.
@affandih
@affandih 2 ай бұрын
The rich features of the Ace Pro 2 make me jealous while I’m using the OA4. I don’t want to switch ecosystems or spend any money on accessories. I wish OA 6 Pro much better next year 🤞🏻
@terano999
@terano999 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review. Is the DJI Mic2 working in the Quick Capture Mode or do I have to reconnect it every time I use it?
@lonniesfilmmaking333
@lonniesfilmmaking333 2 ай бұрын
Cheers so much 😊 360 is simpler to use ❤
@VisionMTB
@VisionMTB 2 ай бұрын
Great review as usual. People love to knock GoPro, but for daytime footage it still is very good and most times better. I'm disappointed you're only wearing one watch.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Wait, I thoguht I had two on?!?
@AZGeek520
@AZGeek520 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the quick comparison. I'm done with GoPro and will be most likely going with the DJI Osmo Action 5 over the Insta360 Ace Pro 2. The DJI has a smaller form factor -- very important for weight considerations when mounted to a helmet -, seamless integration with the DJI Mic 2 (no adapter required for multiple audio channels, which the ACE Pro 2 needs), 47 gb onboard memory, higher log bit rate for better color grading in post, just to name some of the major differences that have influenced my decision. Looking forward to your more detailed spec comparison (even though I will ignore the GoPro).
@mountainbikingfortherestofus
@mountainbikingfortherestofus Ай бұрын
Agree, Gopro will not get my next purchase. Bad customer service, to say the least, camera always seems to have issues and the app is a joke. DJI here I come.
@timrock01
@timrock01 2 ай бұрын
There are so many accessories for GoPro that it is still a major reason that I use them. You can shoot GoPro 13 at -5 or -10 for underwater and retain more highlight too and still see the eyes in the face masks and not loose the detail at the surface areas underwater. Great review as always.
2 ай бұрын
At least! Someone told thwt it works with only one DJI mic 2 via Bluetooth. So only DJI cameras can work with two mics simultaneously though.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Correct, but only the new Action 5 can do both wirelessly. Mainly cause it’s not actually using Bluetooth under the covers, but rather basically just replicating a DJI receiver. They do initial pairing via BT, but then handoff to backend wireless instead. Clever.
@ruisantos5746
@ruisantos5746 Ай бұрын
For mountain biking and road cycling, which one do you suggest? Stabilization would be important. Also, some trails can have shadows and low light. Do not intend recording at night and also don’t have much time and skills for editing. Thanks
@striptyler
@striptyler 2 ай бұрын
For underwater mode- Pureview does a better job honestly, especially freshwater (green) and night dives. Night dives with this camera are incredible - and that’s why I went with the first ace pro.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Interesting - that's something I'll give a whirl!
@DireAdventure
@DireAdventure Ай бұрын
I'm really curious about this and the DJI for scuba diving. After a bit of depth my GoPro 12 starts to look like a muddy mess, I'm assuming because of the lack of light. I'm hoping the better low light in the Ace Pro 2 and Action 5 Pro would make the diving footage look better.
@datapro007
@datapro007 2 ай бұрын
Are you planing a DJI Osmo 5 review? Sure hope so.
@nctrns
@nctrns 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for that one too :D
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Yup, on the docket. I had the Ace Pro 2 about a month ago, so been collecting tons of side by side footage, was easier to do an Action 5 review after this releases, rather than reshoot all that stuff. Same goes for Hero 4K.
@reemaszero
@reemaszero 2 ай бұрын
Honest question - does getting a camera for review qualify as not sponsored? Are these companies really sending their products to KZbin reviewers who give a strong negative review?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
No, plenty of publications and media outlets get loaner cameras. That’s not a sponsorship, that’s simply a media loaner. Just like it’s been that way for decades before the rise of influencer and paid garbage. I give tons of “bad” reviews.
@reemaszero
@reemaszero 2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker thanks - appreciate your honest content in a sea of click bait fraudsters
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
@@TopblokeGolf Just my policy to give it back.
@Kunal0915
@Kunal0915 2 ай бұрын
I am a first time Action Camera buyer. Need the camera for travel, holiday and family videos. A bit of biking around with family members, but nothing extreme. I don't want the hassle of grading the videos and stuff. However, the camera needs to work decently inside restaurants, cathedrals etc. Which one of these cameras is a good option? Could Action 4 be a good choice too? It is available for a good price now.
@LuciferMorningStar-vt5gd
@LuciferMorningStar-vt5gd 2 ай бұрын
Insta 360 Ace pro
@MichaBareja
@MichaBareja 2 ай бұрын
I love your testing rig for 6 cameras.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
It's funny, I'll show it more in another video, but that's like V6 of that, just found a bunch of totally random things in my office to make it all work.
@aaronli1488
@aaronli1488 2 ай бұрын
Did you ever review the Action 5 pro?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Not yet, started down the road, but basically was capturing Ace Pro 2 footage by time I got my Action 5 Pro I bought, so was easier for me to just wait till this came out to show them all side-buy-side.
@frankstrobel4350
@frankstrobel4350 2 ай бұрын
For fun…..it would interesting to compare a gopro,insta360 or any latest model camera to a first generation camera…gopro 1 or 2. Just a side by side vieeo comparison quick video.😊
@L2theWcarscoffeelife
@L2theWcarscoffeelife 2 ай бұрын
can you test the pause feature let it sit for 3 minutes and see if the audio is out of sync my ace pro does it and I wonder if the problem is fixed
@ShaggyFPV
@ShaggyFPV 2 ай бұрын
Which exact settings did you use on the night comparisons, are they truly equal? Gopro doesn’t have a ‘night mode’ so im curious which iso and color profile you used to make it a reasonable comparisons
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
For all shots in all my reviews (and also true of other device types like watches/etc...), I always use defaults unless explicitly stated. Thus in this case, I used the PureVideo mode (what Insta360 calls their night mode), and then for DJI I insured it was at 30FPS and that low-light was activating. For GoPro, as I noted in the audio, they don't have a night video mode, so I let it control the settings automatically. While users could theoretically manually force things like ISO/etc, I don't consider that a 'good enough' solution that a user is expected to figure out how to do that at night with changing light conditions. Thus, GoPro fails there.
@ShaggyFPV
@ShaggyFPV 2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker ok but now it’s very hard to know how they actually compare. Does default mean max iso was 1600 and shutter on auto? Looks more like lower iso to me, but without that info there is no way to actually compare
@PatrickVroonland
@PatrickVroonland Ай бұрын
Will there soon be a comparision between the gopro, dji and insta360 camera's?
@ian-mucarruthers441
@ian-mucarruthers441 2 ай бұрын
Hi Ray thanks for the review. I have a technical KZbin question. Re watching to the end. Does that 'work' if I scrub to near the end then let it play? I want to support you but can't always (or don't want to) watch all the way through.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!! No, unfortuantely not. Basically KZbin has a metric called "watch time", and essentially, KZbin only cares about two things: CTR (Click Through Rate) and Watch Time. But ultimately, it's watch time that wins. If you have a super high CTR, but low watch time, that means you probably have clickbait as a thumbnail/title, but people quickly realize it's a bad video and click away.
@gregdavidd
@gregdavidd 2 ай бұрын
Yeah they really missed the boat with the lack of 5.3k60. THis is the only mode I use on GoPro so that I can use gyroflow and export to 4k without any loss.
@spiderwaui
@spiderwaui 2 ай бұрын
Just curious. Did you use the underwater mode in insta 360 ace pro 2 while recording underwater?
@DB6904.
@DB6904. 2 ай бұрын
Hi, do you know if the accessories are interchangeable between the pro and the Pro 2. Thank you.
@DNKF
@DNKF 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Insta360 and DJI wins way far from GoPro. Sad to see GoPro is going downhill.
@bainoe
@bainoe 2 ай бұрын
This review are fair enough to this 3 cameras. It's up to you or to me on what action camera are you getting according to your style and content to make. You are the truly Rainmaker. I got the GoPro 13 for MTB, Osmo Action 5 Pro for my music activities and Ace Pro for daily rides. I like the Dash Cam mode on Ace Pro 2. Thank you anyway.
@bigshnitzeljesse
@bigshnitzeljesse 2 ай бұрын
Have you tried action 5 and ace2 with low light mode at night, mtb or dash with only your headlights, no city lights?
@bainoe
@bainoe 2 ай бұрын
@@bigshnitzeljesse not yet it’s coming. Thanks
@ThePreparedWanderer
@ThePreparedWanderer Ай бұрын
does it record stereo? Can I use a rode wireless mics?
@jkotsche7035
@jkotsche7035 2 ай бұрын
Ray, is there an accessory you would recommend to attach the camera to a Garmin computer mount or headset? How well does the Bike Bundle accessory work? Thanks
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын
I just use the standard GoPro adapter mount, and then any bike computer out-front mount will have a GoPro attachment.
@Nevarez-r5p
@Nevarez-r5p Ай бұрын
Does the camera have the ability to display time stamp during recording/playback?
@Fishcracker23
@Fishcracker23 Ай бұрын
Is there a current action cam that can record continuously at 4k while also being plugged to a power source to go for hours of recording?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker Ай бұрын
Yes, all of them cam. Obviously, if it's super hot out with no wind, some will struggle, but most are fine in 4K/30FPS (60FPS can be more challenging).
@Fishcracker23
@Fishcracker23 Ай бұрын
@Dcrainmaker what would be your pick, esp with a chest/neck mount?
@soupnazi81
@soupnazi81 Ай бұрын
Can you test the new "endurance mode" for battery life and if ut makes camera less responsive?
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