Insta360 Ace Pro vs DJI Action 4 - LOW LIGHT Comparison

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Phillip Skraba

Phillip Skraba

7 ай бұрын

NOT SPONSORED. This is a night city walk with the DJI Action 4 and the Insta360 Ace Pro, nothing crazy, just showing you how they stack up.
I've listed my observations about the two cameras, you're welcome to comment and add your own.
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@dyluht
@dyluht 7 ай бұрын
Both are really great but I think the ace pro has more dynamic range in low light settings. Really can’t go wrong here.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I think it's at the point where if you'd watch them separately you'd never know the difference. Both have their strong points in low light, and both beat the Hero 12.
@mikhail823
@mikhail823 3 ай бұрын
how ever there is a focus issue with ace pro @@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 3 ай бұрын
@@mikhail823 Well, I wouldn't call it a focus issue, but rather a minimum focus distance that some of us ignore. I've learnt where the sweet spot is and I'm always in focus now.
@RINGOTVReactions
@RINGOTVReactions 6 ай бұрын
This is why I subbed to your channel. Most of the other channels were sponsored videos and was only focused on praising the Ace Pro while posting misleading video comparisons with the DjiAC4 and Hero12.
@xenay911
@xenay911 7 ай бұрын
I’ve learned that you can get near perfect EIS in low light on DJI OA4 by setting the white point to somewhere between 5000-5500K instead of on automatic. Haven’t tried it myself yet as I only learned this yesterday but if anyone tries it or has done it before, I’d love to hear your experiences - to whoever may read this comment lol Thank you so so much, I’ve asked for low light comparisons on other peoples videos and you are once again way ahead of me xD
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I'll have to try that out and see how well it does. The AWB at night needs to be spot on, especially with all the coloured lights, so 5600k might be something I'll have to try, I have it set on just about all my other cameras, so why not! Lol, thanks!
@alexanderk.villach
@alexanderk.villach 7 ай бұрын
Great the insta 360 👍👏👏😁
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
It does a really good job when it comes to the stabe in low light, but I'm guessing that's a little bit of magic when it comes to processing, whilst pixel peeping you can see the image suffers from softness and this almost kind of pixel mashing look. The Action 4 has more brightness and can see in darker situations, but its stabe goes to hell if you're moving around at night.
@simoz78
@simoz78 7 ай бұрын
Those who care for night time videos want to walk to show the streets and people without the ugly EIS jitters. So the Ace pro looks 10x better than DJI in the automatic mode. If you use your footage for a walking at night style of channel, most viewers would leave the video seeing the DJI jitters at every step while they would keep watching the AcePro footage. If using manual settings on the DJI can fix the jitters, then is worth to compare them again in those settings.
@itsmattyboom
@itsmattyboom 4 ай бұрын
Yep! 100%
@mad_bad_cat
@mad_bad_cat 8 күн бұрын
Simple as that. It’s unwatchable when you have micro jitters everywhere, I agree the colours look nicer but you can get tiny improvements on ace pro in post, you can’t fix jittery mess in post.
@Mn-xh9ps
@Mn-xh9ps 7 ай бұрын
The Ace pro with no lens removal is a definitely no-go for me. But the improve stab in low light is very nice and obvious over the action 4 in the setting you choose. Would you be nice to do a comparaison in low light but with EIS prioity on action 4 (If i remember correctly it exist on it) ? Or a 1/200 minimum shutter speed (also think it exist on it) ? If the action 4 manage to have a good low light stab even if it s a little darker, it s a total win for action 4 imo. On other subject, I have watch a lot of Ace pro review and I really find most of the time that the footage is ugly, the over sharpen is very agressive, over saturation too (maybe less) and most of the time you also have very crushed black, I hate this look. On standard setting with low sharpness or in log, the action 4 really manage nice quality imo. TY.
@craigshandworld
@craigshandworld 7 ай бұрын
same but 360 announced free replacement on the lens if broken with in 1 year. Not bad
@AdamHreszczyk
@AdamHreszczyk 6 ай бұрын
Actually it's the same system like in GoPro, but they put some glue on it. If you use the force, and remove the glue, it's removable.
@jakevisuals1
@jakevisuals1 7 ай бұрын
looking at that big fingerprint on the insta's screen, you basically ruined its footage...and I am not a big fan of that oa4's jittering, the ace pro does do a better job on highlight control and stabilization; please be mindful when you are doing the comparison, this is not an authentic but unfair comparison
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I think the thumbprint is pretty authentic, who out of us has never touched the lens on an action camera, I mean they're made for getting dirty. Yes, the jittering on the DJI is hard to watch, it's like bad audio, makes me want to turn it off.
@ArcticExploring
@ArcticExploring 7 ай бұрын
Better stabilization on Ace Pro, but overall OA4 do look best. I just hope DJI could improve this in a firmware.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yes, fully agree.
@happy1wandering
@happy1wandering 6 ай бұрын
A big point that ppl forget to mention, is that the acepro can only shoot only in 8 bit color & no Log picture profile, while the action 4 shoots in 10 bit & has a log option.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 ай бұрын
Yeah and it’s a huge difference! 8 bit= 256 RGB Colours while 10 bit = to 1024 RGB Colours, which means smoother gradients, less noise, less banding, less blotches.
@itaktozrobie297
@itaktozrobie297 2 ай бұрын
Chce kupic Dji Action 4 do jazdy na motocyklu. Doradz prosze jakie wybrac ustawienia do nagrywania w dzien i po zmroku . Kamera będzie na kasku . I jesli mozesz to podpowiedz jaki w miare budżetow mikrofon wybrac do kasku. Z góry dziękuje !
@Adventure-MTB
@Adventure-MTB 7 ай бұрын
great video what setting on action 4 i know it says 4k 25fps does that mean auto or are you in pro mode ?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
It's all on auto, I thought I'd let the cameras decide the rest to level the playing field.
@ebikecrusun1483
@ebikecrusun1483 Ай бұрын
can you advise the full list of settings on the action 4 u used
@JoZhWorld
@JoZhWorld 7 ай бұрын
Agreed with your observations.. I am looking to upgrade my Go2.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yes, it did a magical job when it comes to stabilisation!
@wheelxtech
@wheelxtech 7 ай бұрын
which stabilisation mode did you chose on DJI?Insta stabilises better on your video.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Hypersmooth. Yes, the Insta360 does a better job, though at the cost of extra processing having a strain on pixel quality.
@wheelxtech
@wheelxtech 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba thanx for the reply and review
@westwingaero
@westwingaero 7 ай бұрын
Wow, I don’t know what to think of all other KZbinrs who tested this before and showed the Insta 360 camera coming out a stop or two better than DJI & GoPro. Did they intentionally deceive us as well or their none production units were actually better?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I really don't know what to say.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
@@drizzlemint Sure, but that doesn't matter, I get paid for most of my videos but I still stand strong and say what I think.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkrabaOthers get scripts, and a list of things on what to mention and what to leave out.
@GaryTravels
@GaryTravels 6 ай бұрын
Honest review, thanks
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome, thanks!
@michaelmarcano9200
@michaelmarcano9200 7 ай бұрын
Did you need to clean the AcePro camera? If not then the lens flares are pretty bad and it almost had a smudged look to it. I'm starting to think I should stay with my Action 4!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Well, it's possible that when I film these tests I touch the lens, I try not to, but it might happen. However, being action/vlog cameras, I'm guessing if they don't get dirty then it's not very authentic, right?
@Itellthetruth58
@Itellthetruth58 7 ай бұрын
what is the point of doing an “honest review” when you are asking every single commenter to go for action4?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Well, for the fact that it's the better camera, so I'm being honest. Simple.
@xenay911
@xenay911 7 ай бұрын
Cause he’s stating the facts and basically the insta ace pro is way too hyped and expensive when you compare footage quality of its competitor(s). Maybe they can tweak it in firmware updates to toggle the AI influence better, in the future… so far I’m disappointed by the glorification of reviewers when it’s not actually that good…
@teofilol2666
@teofilol2666 7 ай бұрын
Easy, it's not honest despite his assertion 😂
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Care to explain?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully Insta360 is on top of all the bugs that they can fix via firmware.
@eiyt
@eiyt 7 ай бұрын
I find that the Action 4 footage looks quite bad especially with the stabilisation. Yes, in some parts, it looks brighter but this is offset by the bad image quality. The Ace Pro definitely looks better to my eyes here.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
They both have strong points. The Action 4 is brighter and sees in the dark better, the Ace Pro has better control of the stabilisation in low light. Take away the stabilisation and the Action 4 will come out on top.
@anhonestreviewer7015
@anhonestreviewer7015 Ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkrabayes, but why would you want to take away the stabilisation?
@HanoiCitizen
@HanoiCitizen Ай бұрын
these are look a like with a little diffirent in saturation , action 4 with a bit higher saturation in red and yellow and ace pro had a bit lower normal saturation .i think DJ action 4 had image enhancement make its set in high EV.
@b16bkostas
@b16bkostas 7 ай бұрын
good job, the action 4 is better in very bright places and in very dark, you do not make me a favor to compare dlog-m anyway, i think action 4 have a settings that priorotise the stability over the image at low light do you have try that also?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
It does seem the Action comes out on top, and with stabe on it would look at ton better. Yeah, I forgot the DLog-M, next time. The stabe on the Ace Pro wins, hands down, the image wins on the Action 4.
@grzegorzkrajewski1095
@grzegorzkrajewski1095 7 ай бұрын
In the past, action cameras were compared during mountain bike rides or jumps to the water. Now 99% of reviewer films their dogs, garages and walks in the parks.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yes, that's correct, nowadays few people use them for action. I think the larger screen on the Ace Pro is no doubt a positive side for vlogging.
@grzegorzkrajewski1095
@grzegorzkrajewski1095 7 ай бұрын
I think Ace360 should be compared to Osmo Pocket 3. Not for real action cameras.@@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I can do that, however, it's like comparing the Hero 12 to the Ace Pro in low light, the Pocket 3 is rolling with a 1" sensor and has a completely different field of view, it's a quite a different type of camera, but sure, I've got a load of questions about that.
@IbbySS.
@IbbySS. 7 ай бұрын
Is it be or does the action 4 crop in low light mode? If so I wonder which has a wider field of view in their respective mode?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think so, seems like it stays the same. The Action 4 is the widest action cam of all of them, it’s silly wide.
@IbbySS.
@IbbySS. 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba it's really noticable in the daylight but hard to tell in the dark (maybe on video I guess. Maybe it's me.) Thanks for confirming!
@paulshanesmith
@paulshanesmith 7 ай бұрын
Very deceitful of Insta to send reviewers a different version than was going on sale.. its almost as if they knew a non replaceable lens cover would be a deal breaker for many. It is for me.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Me too, that's why I never bought the Hero 8 myself.
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 7 ай бұрын
Enough reason not to support a company with those sort of practices
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 ай бұрын
lol. I can't. Amazing AI processor, great low light, flip out screen, amazing quality... Can't replace the lens? PASS. People that are more concerned about the replaceable lens are the people who don't actually use an action camera for action sports and have never damaged a lens. @@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 7 ай бұрын
@@xundeadxempirex sorry but enough times a scratch can end up on a lens. Next to that giving reviewers a different version than the one in the shop is just not ok.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 ай бұрын
I can agree with this thought process. However, Insta is offering free "no questions asked" lens replacement for a year after purchase of an Ace Pro. I do agree giving creators a different version is def not ok, and I do not agree with that. That does frustrate me as well when watching review videos. @@Slashingthrough
@DigiDriftZone
@DigiDriftZone 4 ай бұрын
You can replicate the better stabilisation by manually pushing the shutter speed up on the Action 4, which will result in a similarly darker image.
@JosephCartertheMinkMan
@JosephCartertheMinkMan 3 ай бұрын
LOL -6C is just normal winter weather. Last winter I spent an entire day hunting in -35C.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 3 ай бұрын
I really loath the cold, some people like it, I just don't enjoy it unless I'm on skis.
@Coaster_Crazy
@Coaster_Crazy 5 ай бұрын
What camera was the audio captured on ??
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
Ace Pro
@Coaster_Crazy
@Coaster_Crazy 5 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba should have used the DJI as it seems to have better audio from all the reviews I’ve seen
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
@@Coaster_Crazy I'd say fairly similar, in some situations the DJI does better, in some the Ace Pro, but in general both very similar. No massive gap there in terms of audio.
@TheRealityTwister
@TheRealityTwister 3 ай бұрын
So did you change your mind and like it better then the DJI Action 4? Please let me know. I need a camera to work with me doing street magic at night please film my stage show indoors in dim lighting.. please tell me what you think
@petehikers6003
@petehikers6003 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see full screen video of both cams in a camera video quality comparison..
@tonycapil1022
@tonycapil1022 5 ай бұрын
The blown highlights are killing me on the DJI. What would the image look like if it were exposed for highlights? I'm just curious on how much shadow detail would be lost. I've never owned an action camera before btw.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
These things have tiny sensors compared to your full frame mirrorless cameras, so they really have a hard time during low light. The Ace Pro does such a good job due to the A.I. in camera processing. The Action 4 does a good job, but as you see it fails in the highlights, has more noise and can't stabilise as well as the Ace Pro.
@bubunpapau
@bubunpapau 5 ай бұрын
Stabilization on ace pro is insane!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
It's pretty wild right?!
@flyzone7441
@flyzone7441 7 ай бұрын
Greetings from California the action 4 is fn great
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yes, yes it is.
@allenmyers8568
@allenmyers8568 7 ай бұрын
It looks to me like the Ace Pro has moisture inside the lens cover that is causing the picture to had a smudgy effect. Also, I'm curious as to what ISO settings you had on the cameras.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Both had very clean lenses, all was on auto. The Action 4 is in my books the winner. Turn off stabe, stick that thing on a gimbal and it's over.
@ronnyrandertjes
@ronnyrandertjes 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba can you remind me of a good gimbal?
@kickasshole
@kickasshole 7 ай бұрын
Wish you try the eis priority on dji osmo action 4
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I will have to try that out!
@gco2075
@gco2075 Ай бұрын
4:30 The low light stabilization of Ace Pro is no match to action 4 if you check the jittering of the neon light (dom) of the bog building in the background. But action 4 has more colors in post and less wide lens distortion.
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 ай бұрын
DJI is better but jittery, AP is much smoother, hmmm... this is a hard one. But some areas, AP is better then DJI with exposure and still consistently smoother video, where as DJI is 'cleaner' but framerate is jittery so I guess which is more important both can be fix via post production. But again, look at the background detail, AP has that hands down with this camera as well, hmmmm. with the 8k being kind of goofy on this camera, do you think with the 5 nm processor and the 8k sensor that it would very be improved in future firmware upgrades? I'm curious.
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 7 ай бұрын
Manually increasing the shutter speed eliminates the jitter, but makes image stop or two darker.
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 ай бұрын
@@kaltask1 why compromise if you don't have to is all I'm saying. You make one thing better but the other is worse, if you had to do that to competing camera, it would be a negative right? It's a catch 22, increase shutter for better quality but lose light, decrease shutter for better light but lose quality.
@LandOverview
@LandOverview 4 ай бұрын
Myself, I went for Action 4, as for low light I still carry the Pocket 3 as it does better in low light even at 60fps than Ace Pro does at 25fps and if you pan too fast at 25fps you get nasty blur which I hate. So in my opinion Action cams with low frame rate, I don't class as action cams any more, especially as their stabilization goes out the window anyway and in the case of Ace Pro, although its stability may be slightly better it is at expense of picture quality and blurring in the darker regions, good for daytime only, still, unfortunately.
@user-hb8um9po3l
@user-hb8um9po3l 3 ай бұрын
Which cam will be the Best to vlogging my truck driving job?
@LandOverview
@LandOverview 3 ай бұрын
@@user-hb8um9po3l If you don't already have the action 4 which is cheaper than maybe the ace pro if it's just a choice between the two?
@yamahaevo
@yamahaevo 7 ай бұрын
Did you have smudge in the middle of the lens on insta? Why the flickering on insta?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
No smudge. Flicking - no idea, had it on auto-flicker.
@yamahaevo
@yamahaevo 7 ай бұрын
@PhillipSkraba Well you did touch the lens and I clearly can se the smudge ruined your video. Just like you touched it in the new video.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
@yamahaevo I did? Well, I guess that makes it authentic.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 ай бұрын
I have seen that flickering on other Ace Pro reviews, it’s kinda funny when it happens in the middle of their paid glorification of the Ace pro.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 ай бұрын
@@independentmind6345 Yeah, I think it's about the auto-flicker, it has trouble with some light sources sometimes. If I have it on 50hz it seems to work fine. Maybe the auto option needs an update.
@TravelwithDavid360
@TravelwithDavid360 7 ай бұрын
Shutter blur on the action 4 in a few spots , very minor though. Ace pro colours are weird in some spots .
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I agree with both comments.
@DarkFire515
@DarkFire515 7 ай бұрын
HDR from the Action 4 looks like it has a better dynamic range. Interesting video, thanks for freezing & recording this for us all!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely no problem at all, happy to bring you all these comparisons.
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 ай бұрын
Very nice video
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Thank You!
@gin21zkato
@gin21zkato 4 ай бұрын
4:54 hold this frame and compare. 1. Action 4 don't have blur fixing on stabilization 2. Action 4 add some bad digital yellow tint
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, the Ace Pro does a much better job at night.
@gaiusmarquez6344
@gaiusmarquez6344 7 ай бұрын
To be honest, i don’t always use the low light image enhancement on OA4. I think it’s better natural looking when you prioritize EIS in shooting lowlight and just custom set the sharpness and noise red.. that’s just my impression.. 🫶🏻👌🏻💯
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think so too, but here I wanted to level the playing field and see which camera actually looks better, and it's not easy as one is brighter, one has better stabe. If you were to turn the stabe off though, which I do a lot at night, the Action 4 is the King of low light.
@gaiusmarquez6344
@gaiusmarquez6344 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba precisely! And the over-sharpening(due to AI) happening in Ace Pro is just not good looking though!
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 ай бұрын
Isn’t the tape the actual electronic cords going to the screen?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
That's correct. I open and close it all the time.
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba I found this on Amazon to protege lens since I know like me you don’t want to scratch it, CYNOVA Screen Protector for Insta360 Ace Pro, Ultra Clear Tempered
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yes, saw those all over the place.
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkrabaI bought some will test it when I get my ace pro
@mgarkartun2023
@mgarkartun2023 7 ай бұрын
i like 360 insta Ace Pro 🥰
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
It's not all that bad in low light.
@mgarkartun2023
@mgarkartun2023 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba Thanks Brother 🥰
@paulshanesmith
@paulshanesmith 7 ай бұрын
It'll make a lovely paperweight after you scratch or break the lens and even if you never do you'll always be worried about it.
@RdOZITO
@RdOZITO 7 ай бұрын
1:38 you can see the wires in the sky of OA4, but nothing in ACE PRO
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Yes, it does a pretty good job, mind you, both of them do at night. If we switch the stabe off, the Action 4 comes out on top.
@FelipeHernandez-pk1ww
@FelipeHernandez-pk1ww 7 ай бұрын
Fax. I just bought the OA4
@droneeye2618
@droneeye2618 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate your alternative view, thanks for the refreshing non sponsored review
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
You're welcome, I'm a fan of showing people how things really look. Here you can notice a couple of things, the Action 4 is brighter, but falls apart in stabilisation, whereas the Ace Pro is a touch darker but controls stabe with A.I. technology, giving it a head start over the DJI. I'm playing more with the Ace Pro, even right now, I'm doing a time-lapse as I get ready for bed to see how all its features work.
@WiljanWiljan
@WiljanWiljan 7 ай бұрын
Biggest concern is still the lack of a lens guard for the ace pro. This needs to be fixed first before i will decide any purchase.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I fully agree.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 ай бұрын
Insta360 offering 100% free "no questions asked" lens replacement for the 1st year after purchase. I've had every iteration of Go Pro's, Action 3, 4, Insta360 X1, X2, and now the Ace Pro. In the 10+ years i've used an action cam for dirtbiking, motovlogs, skateboarding, bmx, surfing, etc, i've never once, not even close damaged a lens. {EDITED} Thank you for your response, Phillip
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
@xundeadxempirex Did you know that I’m also an Insta360 affiliate, actually longer than I’ve been a DJI affiliate. I’m just saying what I see and feel. The lens is a problem, and I’ve been gathering information, from various sources. It was meant to be a removable lens, but the test models were causing leakage, so Insta either could push back its launch many months or drop this as a fully sealed camera. I do appreciate they’re offering free lens replacement, I think that puts a lot of peoples minds at ease.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the calm demeanor in which you handled this. As a consumer trying to get accurate reviews, I feel there is a lot of biased reviews which is only beneficial, imho, to people who are loyal to a specific brand and don't get an accurate account of what we're looking at. I'll do best in the future to have a better outlook on how I respond@@PhillipSkraba
@WiljanWiljan
@WiljanWiljan 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba the free lens replacement is only valid for the 1st year. Next you have to ship your camera to nearest insta360 service point, which means your camera is gone for a few weeks. Also the shipping costs are for the customer. So is this a good offering? No no no.
@johnhill6794
@johnhill6794 Ай бұрын
The image looks sharper, image stabilization is better, and a lot more detail in the highlights with the Ace.
@pinnysun8442
@pinnysun8442 7 ай бұрын
while most of the reviewer out there says that the ace pro are better, you are the first person that has the same opinion as i do, ace pro is over processed and sharpen.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people have that option, they just couldn't say it.
@simoz78
@simoz78 7 ай бұрын
Most people hate jitters of walking footage at night. Those are 100x worse than any overprocessed or sharpness issue.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I fully agree, drives me crazy. That is why I usually turn off EIS at night.
@pinnysun8442
@pinnysun8442 7 ай бұрын
Its not that the ace pro is bad, it has excellent out of cam quality, the down side is sometimes we want more control of our video style instead of the hdr look all the time.
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. The ace pro is my choice. Much less wobble in the night image. I wonder how the image would. Look at night without the special mode. Like a 60 ffps mode.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Well, if we turn stabe off on both cameras, the extra low light brightness on the Action 4 would win. I've never tried at 60fps, but I might give it a go.
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 7 ай бұрын
At least some clips I saw they where quite dark, but no noise in the image. It was as dark as hero 12, which had really noisy image.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
The Hero 12 doesn't hold up too well in comparison to these two.
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response. For me the image stabilizer is essential. I would then use the pocket 2 or 3 for lower light but field of view is less on those. I had the action 4 for a few weeks and made many indoor videos with it and the action 3 at the same time. The action 3 was darker but did not show the same stabilization wobbling, so I used the action 3 footage. I think the Ace Pro will do what I need and bridge the gap more between low light and using a pocket 2. Thanks for all your videos i enjoy them.@@PhillipSkraba
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 7 ай бұрын
@@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes manually setting higher shutter speed on action 3 or 4 will fix the stabilization. More frames to process the information.
@4seasonbackpacking
@4seasonbackpacking 6 ай бұрын
The low light stabilization is much better on the ace pro
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I fully agree.
@Hfdsyi0pnvcx
@Hfdsyi0pnvcx 7 ай бұрын
Привет🖐. У тебя лучшие обзоры.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Thank You!
@AdamHreszczyk
@AdamHreszczyk 6 ай бұрын
But it is visible stabilization issue in lowlight on Action 4
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 ай бұрын
That's true.
@f.frknkocaaslan4440
@f.frknkocaaslan4440 7 ай бұрын
I bought dji osmo action 4 recently:( should i get refund and buy ace pro for leica ? Is it worth?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
My gosh no! This has nothing to do with Leica!
@f.frknkocaaslan4440
@f.frknkocaaslan4440 7 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba oh, thanks i'm relieved🙏😁
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 ай бұрын
@@f.frknkocaaslan4440yeah that was a shameless name drop by insta360 lol
@travel_like_me
@travel_like_me 7 ай бұрын
A very good test, thank you. I was also considering buying the camera, even though I already have the Action 4 and Pocket 3. But I don't see any advantages here, but a lot of disadvantages compared to the Action 4. And in poor lighting, the Insta will probably clearly lose out to the Pocket 3.
@tonywang9264
@tonywang9264 7 ай бұрын
Hmmm, the Ace Pro has a better stablization and HDR.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
It does have better stabilisation at night by darkening the image, and it has hdr, whereas the Action 4 opted for wider dynamic range, which I prefer.
@agatachinalska6377
@agatachinalska6377 7 ай бұрын
Philip, as always, in good shape... but maybe you could run a little :D it always increases the viewership :P Will he have a heart attack or not :D When I'm walking along Piotrkowska Street, I always look around to see if there's a crazy guy with a camera running on OFF :) My first GoPro is Hero4 Black, the second one is Hero10 and the higher one will be... Insta360 Ace Pro 2 (if it turns out, because if I need it, GoPro 10 will be enough :) I'm already excited about DJI Action 4, and here's the twist...
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
The Hero series and Action series are fantastic action cameras, but I wouldn't pigeon hole the Ace Pro as an action camera, but rather a vlogging camera, and viewing it that way I'm a lot more at ease using it.
@aidenandrowan
@aidenandrowan 7 ай бұрын
Great video. I'm really struggling with DJI A4 results when compared to my GoPro10. Perhaps that's just a reflection that I've been using gopro cameras for such a long time and I know them back to front! I just turn on my gopro and film... it always works! Problems I hate about my gopro are over heating (fecking nightmare... hold in the start button for 10 seconds to reset!) and shimmering (aliasing) in many scenarios. Despite your negativity (and they are much appreciated!) I far (by a long way) prefer the images you are getting from the Ace Pro.
@mirroreffectchannel
@mirroreffectchannel 6 ай бұрын
Some say turn off low light some say turn it on am confused
@EspenJohan
@EspenJohan 7 ай бұрын
An incredible number of people say that the Insta360 ace pro is absolutely king in low light. Yes, it seems that the ace pro has slightly better stabilization. But the picture quality is more or less exactly the same. Shame on those who had the camera before it was released, must be allowed to say that they lied. I will get my ace pro in a few days. If this is what I get. Then it will be returned after some tests
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
What I do at night is turn stabe off, as I just don't run at night lol, so with it off I'm pretty sure the Action 4 is still the King of low light. I'll do another video testing that out.
@danymaggiolo
@danymaggiolo 7 ай бұрын
So.. Action 4 with a gimbal is better than Ace Pro? @@PhillipSkraba
@MAURITS_BIKE-HIKE
@MAURITS_BIKE-HIKE 7 ай бұрын
Nice one Espen. It is really difficult this year. Also you can bet that all companies will make better cameras next year after what Insta360 came up with.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Hell yes.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure GoPro is hard at work to make their next camera THE camera.
@ijs_diy
@ijs_diy 7 ай бұрын
Dji osmo action 4 looks a better choice for a action camera.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
For an action camera, I'd probably have to agree, for vlogging I'd go with the Ace Pro.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 ай бұрын
DJI Looks way better! Nice!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 ай бұрын
Well, both look pretty good, the Ace Pro seems to hold the jitters a lot better, but it is running on A.I.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 ай бұрын
It will depend on your settings and how much light the sensor allows. you can use the included night time glassless lens that come with the dji, giving you more fstops.@@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, throughout all my tests, it's almost impossible to beat the Ace Pro in low light, unless you have a gimbal.
@antonijakubiak
@antonijakubiak 6 ай бұрын
Cześć, Jak dla mnie Ace Pro ma lepszą stabilizację. Action 4 więcej widzi gdy mocno brakuje światła.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 ай бұрын
Zgadza sie.
@user-hb8um9po3l
@user-hb8um9po3l 3 ай бұрын
Polak
@itsmattyboom
@itsmattyboom 4 ай бұрын
That "wiggle" on the DJI is horrible! Ace Pro all day! And I'm a DJI owner. But this sold me on my next vlogging camera.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 ай бұрын
The Ace Pro is by far the best vlog camera I've used, really loving it for vlogging. 2 months later video vlog coming soon.
@alinflorindumitru6565
@alinflorindumitru6565 6 ай бұрын
the lamps at 2.08 tels evrithing .
@alterculture
@alterculture 4 ай бұрын
Why are you shooting in PureShot instead of the new low light mode called PureVideo that is only on the ACE Pro??? Came here trying to see how the low light modes compare, but you used the wrong mode! no?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 ай бұрын
No, I just messed up and called it PureShot instead of PureVideo. In this instance, I'd roll my eyes and say "potayto, potahto". I am using the PureVideo mode.
@General.Audience
@General.Audience 5 ай бұрын
Aren't you supposed to be on pure video on the ace pro? On other reviews, I've seen the Ace pro beat out the action 4 in low light.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
Yes, Pure Video. It did beat it here, right?
@General.Audience
@General.Audience 5 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkrabaI think the Action 4 looks better in low light more times then the Ace pro
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
Yeah? That is odd.
@HeroVange
@HeroVange 7 ай бұрын
Ayo the ace pro is better BUT by how much? Is it worth the trade for your peace of mind that if you scratch the lens, you can just buy a replacement? Is it worth the peace of mind you get knowing that the tape to make your screen work isn't exposed? I hope next year they come out with ace pro 2 with changeable lens cover, no flip screen, just dual screens like the dji action 4 and the go pro 12, 10 bit. OR dji action 5 with an AI chip. Even with that statement, i know i want more improvements for the ace pro vs the dji, i just want the same improved low light (and maybe the ai warp... it's fun and if you can apply it to photos too, that would be HILARIOUS)
@Verbisdeturi
@Verbisdeturi 5 ай бұрын
Oh my....! The stabilization on the Action 4 is way worse than the Insta360 Ace Pro. For each footstep we can see the lights trembling....either walking or running. The colours are more natural in Action 4 though.
@alyiga
@alyiga 7 ай бұрын
Looks like the Ace PRO is doing better overall but the Action 4 is still a solid contender. Great review
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
They have their good and bad moments. I think if we were to turn stabe off on both, the Action 4 would come out on top. I might need to test that out.
@grahamjones7070
@grahamjones7070 7 ай бұрын
I think the Action 4 was a lot better. Especially the lit up car,there was a significant difference. It looks nice and quiet around there but does look cold. Nice review 👍
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 ай бұрын
@@grahamjones7070 ? 4:35 on Zoom in the background where the mini van is on the left, vehicles are more defined on Ace Pro, also, look at the hanging christmas lights on the light poles, they are also more defined, both colors are off imo, DJI is over saturated and Ace is under saturated but I'm a detail person, I can alway fix color post edit.
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 ай бұрын
@@grahamjones7070 5:06 when he pans up to the light bulbs, yes we have lens flare but you can see the detail of the light bulb area on the Ace. hmmmm the detail is better on the Ace but it is undersaturated.
@grahamjones7070
@grahamjones7070 7 ай бұрын
@@MiyagisRant I suppose our vision varies from person to person,I'm actually colour blind so i wouldn't argue with anyone else's opinions. But for me the Action 4 looks better.
@droneeye2618
@droneeye2618 7 ай бұрын
I hate to say it because I really have hated the hype for the Ace Pro, but as far as image is concerned, the colours look beautifully graded straight out of camera on KZbin to me, its possibly over sharpened, but hard to tell on KZbin. In this videos the Ace Pro looks more like a larger camera image to me than the Action 4 image. Look at the street light at the end on both cameras (6:33), lights just seem to be flaring on the Action 4 but the Ace Pro sees detail in the bright lights?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I'm right there with you. It's not always easy to say, hey, I was wrong, but I was and I wasn't 😂 The Ace Pro is not a GoPro killer, I'm standing strong on that, it is also not the King of Action. The Ace Pro is by far the best vlogging camera I have ever used, and so IF Insta360 were to label it The Vlog King, I'd be right there egging them on, however, I think all the confusion and bad blood came about when they labelled and marketed it wrongly causing hype of the wrong nature. The Ace Pro, after using it for a few days, and looking at it in a completely different mindset, as a vlog camera, is so far excellent.
@Kildzr
@Kildzr 5 ай бұрын
Your image quality look way different from everything I've seen comparing these cameras on the Ace Pro. Dark, very little detail, soft, etc. It doesn't help that the Ace Pro looks like it has a smudge or condensation on the lense. Instead of having the same settings on each camera, how about the best settings FOR EACH camera. That would make more sense. BTW, the stablization is terrible on the Action 4, in this test.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
Well, in low light the Ace Pro wins, I’ve not found anything that beats it yet, and I’d say it’s on par with the Pocket 3, but that has a gimbal.
@bevolkisch4628
@bevolkisch4628 7 ай бұрын
the background lights were very shakey even when you were just walking on the dji action 4, but seemed flawless even when joggin on the ace pro.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
That’s true, yes.
@Cameraflyer-
@Cameraflyer- 7 ай бұрын
The Action 4 looks better but the stabilization goes to hell in low light.
@RdOZITO
@RdOZITO 7 ай бұрын
just limit the shutter speed of OA4 to 1/100 or quicker, stabilization will performances perfect
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
That’s true.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
It does help, yes!
@megapixelmicron6360
@megapixelmicron6360 3 ай бұрын
are you paid by DJI or what ? ace pro less detail ? check 1:15 lightings in the building.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 3 ай бұрын
Nah, I’m not paid by DJI, I know who is though 😂
@Tier1L1fe
@Tier1L1fe 5 ай бұрын
Ace Pro looks like it's on a gimbal the Dji looks jittery
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that's true.
@bigstreetguns6619
@bigstreetguns6619 7 ай бұрын
Stabe better on insta, but color science is way worse. It looks soooo artificial.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Fully agree.
@TacBlades
@TacBlades 7 ай бұрын
Insta is more hype than camera, people just buy hype without really thinking critically. With any product i look for the fault and problems before any positives.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I’ve had a few days playing with the Ace Pro with my family, and sure, it was hyped to be a GoPro killer, the King of Action, but it’s not. It appeals to a much larger audience, to me, it’s a vlogging camera, a camera for people who don’t care about action sports, about 10-bit, Log footage etc, it’s for those that want camera to social media without a complicated workflow. That’s how my conclusion, and I’m on board with that mindset.
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 ай бұрын
From 5:57 on with the darker area, do you not find the DJI over saturated? doesn't look natural to me, and also, look closely behind you, the background the jittering and blurring on the DJI is bad, it's actually giving me a headache, I'll say AP is the winner overall. Great review, thank you, this camera isn't as bad as you think is it? lol
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 ай бұрын
Unusable footage, imo. I would never use that footage in any situation. Its jittery literally the whole video except in higher lit areas.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
@xundeadxempirex I do agree with you about the jitter, it’s like listening to bad audio, however we can always turn off EIS and have a super bright image on the Action. I do have to admit though, the Insta did win all the low light tests which totally surprised me.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 ай бұрын
Again, a great response to a rattled viewer. Thank you for your honest, and calm feedback@@PhillipSkraba
@wargor
@wargor 7 ай бұрын
It's sp clear that you are bias to DJI.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Well yes, because it’s the better camera, that’s pretty obvious. However Insta360 have done a good job with stabe at night, but that’s not enough to make a good action camera, it’s missing so much and has so many design flaws for an action camera.
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 7 ай бұрын
Nothing of what he said was biased.
@vladgingu
@vladgingu 6 ай бұрын
The lens look dirty
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 ай бұрын
You like that huh?
@StephenGolding
@StephenGolding 7 ай бұрын
Action 4 looks so much better in low light. Despite the hype around the insta.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
I feel the same.
@robcorrellphotography7213
@robcorrellphotography7213 6 ай бұрын
I agree that DJI has the brighter natural colors, but the insta 360 stabilization is much better and that is what’s important to me.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 ай бұрын
Yes, the Ace Pro kills it when it comes to stabe.
@kir11
@kir11 6 ай бұрын
AcePro is a winner in most scenarios. Dynamic range, zoom, low light and stabilisation without motion blur are much better on insta 360. But not ideal, 06:42..
@xenay911
@xenay911 7 ай бұрын
Please wear at least some fingerless gloves 😅 don’t freeze your fingers off! (Coming from someone with Raynaud’s Syndrome)
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Oh my G, my fingers are so frozen!
@geodrone7643
@geodrone7643 5 ай бұрын
Action 4 is unusable in almost all your footage, the background is crazy.... Insta is wayyy better as i can see....
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын
The Insta360 does hold its own here, yes.
@petrub27
@petrub27 7 ай бұрын
Useless test. Those cameras are not for low light
@TomCaptures
@TomCaptures 7 ай бұрын
Both have been marketed with the mention of improved low light performance, how is this useless to test claims the brands are making to sell their cameras?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
Lol, I FULLY agree with you. I’m just bringing you guys THE test you wanted.
@westwingaero
@westwingaero 7 ай бұрын
Useless comment, many people want to actually see how well they perform in low light as action cameras
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын
That's true, people are wild about low light capabilities.
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