Installing A New Railroad Crossing Bell (And Interesting E-Bell Problem)

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@ryanstrains6446 8 ай бұрын

Love how the 2 GS type 2 E-bells reverbed with the NEG E-bell when the video started. Sounded awesome.

@ryanstrains6446 8 ай бұрын

It’s also very common to see those WCH e-Bells ring so slow these days. I wish the railroads that use those bells would turn up the rate.

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Some signal maintainers I have spoken to never even knew they were adjustable. Most of the time, whatever is factory adjusted is what is used.

@ryanstrains6446 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignalsI am suprised. From what I have seen, you have to take off the top cover of those bells to access the controls. There the rate and volume knobs will be found. Easy to adjust with a screwdriver. I know the older WCH bells rang faster than the new ones do.

@zachzebra56 8 ай бұрын

Nice video! Now this is definitely closer to a modern UP signal. Especially with the NEG E-bell. Also I have seen that extremely slow WCH ring glitch on only a few other crossings so far. First time was this UP crossing that used to have EM signals. The closer one in the video had a WCH Type 1.5 that rang just like your type 2 here.

@MSCM2000 8 ай бұрын

Nice job glad to see two side mounted bells!

@OfficialMilkyFoxChannel Ай бұрын

I think the WCH e bells have adjustable speeds, that probably means the bell sound speed was set to a low pace

@TotalyDrunk1579 8 ай бұрын

Looks like a WCH they can go this slow or extremely fast , pots are under top lid it has a volume adjustment and a rate adjustment both are labeled and require a mini flat head to adjust

@TwinLitz2 8 ай бұрын

I’ve always wanted to build a crossing in my backyard. Do you have any tips to find pieces or full crossings?

@Indianarailproductions 8 ай бұрын

Facebook marketplace, eBay, Craigslist (not my first choice), and auctions. I’ve gotten all my crossing parts from eBay, and im buying a mast/base soon from a guy.

@rodgodx345 8 ай бұрын

Just curious by any means but have they done the track inspection or how’s it going with it?

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Still on the same last step. That step is not in my control as if it was, it would have been done long ago already. You will see a video on it when it is completed though. It could be next weekend or another year.

@rodgodx345 8 ай бұрын

Yep like another 1276 time of this crossing going upgraded 😂 but I love where this is going!

@molossis 8 ай бұрын

question: how did you get your crossing setup back when you had it in your yard?

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

From a contractor removing an abandoned railroad line.

@FloridaRailfanKidWith804 8 ай бұрын

Great video and also what happened to your general signals type 2 electronic bell ?

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

All the removed parts went back to my maintenance yard with all my other unused stuff. If they still work and look good then they will get used again.

@FloridaRailfanKidWith804 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignals Oh Ok Thanks For The Update

@ToothlessThedragon9 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignals Do you know how to speed up your WCH?

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Yes, the slow WCH bell has been readjusted to an acceptable ring rate now.

@ToothlessThedragon9 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignals I think you should get a Safetran type 3 e-bell/Siemens high pitched ebell but those are used for a railroad ride for passengers from amtrak

@odinconnor-randomvideos5267 8 ай бұрын

Nice I like WCH electronic bells

@BBFHD7216 8 ай бұрын

Woah, that’s cool. 😊

@GWM_Clips 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video!

@nstrains4001 8 ай бұрын

is the NEG a type 2?

@coltconnorproductions1016 8 ай бұрын

Those don't exist, they just made them louder and the sound more crisp

@nstrains4001 8 ай бұрын

@@coltconnorproductions1016 it sounds similar to a GS type 2

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

The answer to your question is yes, this is technically a type 2 NEG bell. The first design had a casted aluminum base and not a welded brass base like the modern ones are.

@ccm088 8 ай бұрын

You ever heard of a NEG E-Bell that comes with a Light Bracket Mount? I know CSX Railroad uses those on their signals.

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Yes, L&W has those on inventory and I believe they were designed and made by WCH.

@vedorocc_ 7 ай бұрын

Yes, normally all of the msg e bells that I come across are owned by CSX and they’re mounted onto the WCH 12x24 inch light mount

@Pikachu-h8d 7 ай бұрын

The wch ebell has the same speed as Italian railroad crossings

@mariahm8056 8 ай бұрын

do you fix public railway crossings?

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Technically yes. This is a public railroad crossing as well as the other location I am installing signals at. I also assist signal maintainers from time to time when they have questions about crossings they maintain when they have issues they cannot solve.

@mariahm8056 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignals oh okay

@Isaactheviolinistandviolist 8 ай бұрын

Some railroad crossings I seen on KZbin where some rare crossing bells are like that they ring that way and they get fixed it may be rainwater getting into it

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

After going back up to check things out, the bell was working properly, just the varistor was of a higher resistance than what WCH usually used. This caused the integrated circuit to ring way slower. I didn’t notice any faster maximum ring rate compared to the other ones. It didn’t like to be adjusted anywhere in between really fast and really slow easily though due to the greater ohm variability of a higher ohm varistor. The IC definitely reached its slowest ring potential as 3 seconds is a full cycle prerecorded on these bells. The varistor went lower but the bell still rang at that 3 second Approx. recorded value (including silent non-ring time) and no slower because of the original recording length of a ring. At the end of the day, the bell is now at a more reasonable ring rate than what was seen in this video.

@Isaactheviolinistandviolist 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignals that makes sense okay 👍

@hotbytesB 8 ай бұрын

When are you going to post a another video? Let me know please.

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

I have nine confirmed videos in the works. I should have a video posting tomorrow.

@SoCalRailroadCrossing 8 ай бұрын

Board on the last bell is bad. Unfortunately there’s nothing you can do unless you completely gut out the internals. No WCH E bell can ring that slow by default or adjustment

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

I was able to speed up the ring rate though it was tricky as it was either ringing really fast or really slow and not so much in between, I was thankfully able to get it working though!

@SoCalRailroadCrossing 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignals Interesting. A friend of mine had one that was doing the same thing and it was pretty much just stuck like that. Cool that you got it working

@FloridaRailfanKidWith804 8 ай бұрын

It actually all depends on what type of WCH electronic bell it is. Because they all have different sounds and WCH type 4 electronic bells usually ring that slow.

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Not all that conversant in WCH types but I do know that the bell was made in 2013.

@FloridaRailfanKidWith804 8 ай бұрын

@@RailroadSignsandSignals Amazing

@TPNWR10 8 ай бұрын

The silver ring actually comes with the bell from the NEG factory when you buy bells from NEG. There was a video of one guy unboxing this bell and it had the ring on it.

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

They come with them only if it is ordered with a side mount adapter as those are a 4 inch mounting mast size. You cannot install the ring on a 5 inch mast as the screws stick out and that would also defeat the purpose of the lock ring being on top of the mast. Their reasoning for the ring is so when it is on a side mount adapter and low to the ground, it gives the option for a railroad to lock them so people can’t tamper with them.

@thebnsfrailfan43 7 ай бұрын

Can you please change the crossing bells in Mundelein, Illinois on Maple Ave and Hawley St and reinstall the Automated Wayside Horns in Mundelein, Illinois on Maple Ave, East Park St and Hawley St

@RailroadSignsandSignals 3 ай бұрын

Wayside horns have been removed in most locations due to the ineffectiveness and cost and had an easier and cheaper alternative, horns or bells on the train itself. Unfortunately I do not cover any of the mentioned crossings.

@hotbytesB 8 ай бұрын

Why do you work on train gate?

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Railroad crossings play an essential role in the safety of railroads, maintaining the operation of these warning devices is just as essential and that is why I work on these signals.

@hotbytesB 8 ай бұрын

How many times does the train go by?

@SignalMan9292 8 ай бұрын

6:42 this is a type four. Some people like to call it the lazy WCH E bell

@threepea1151 8 ай бұрын

There are no types, there never has been, all of them are the dame model just with different pitch And ring rates

@TripleH-WVCR2018 8 ай бұрын

@@threepea1151finally someone with common sense, the only ebells with "types" are GS and GS will openly state that.

@SignalMan9292 8 ай бұрын

There are types. 5 types and which all have either gen 1 or gen 2. Also the type really depends on the revision

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

I like the sound of that! “The lazy WCH bell.” Unfortunately it has been readjusted to the right speed now but that’s definitely what I will call it from now on.

@RailroadSignsandSignals 8 ай бұрын

Revisions are the “types” of changes that a company openly acknowledges when a change happens in their product. Any time you hear the word type, it is a railfans terminology for a different visually or audible difference between the bells, not the actual revisions.