Installing an EXTRACTOR FAN and some ELECTRICAL TESTING

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

I always cut the pull cord string at the same height as the door handle. If the user can open the door, then they can definitely operate the pull cord switch.

[@duncanmacleod7283]

I remember back in the day my journeyman telling this young apprentice that the item in question was a lamp, not a bulb. "Lamps give us light, bulbs give us flowers!" was his favourite saying.

[@digitalretoucher]

Very true my tutor said the same and always remember him saying it hold both in his hands in class lol

[@barryturner1146]

Nice work im spark worcster pk whats day rate?

[@stephen5598]

Nice video always different ways people do this trade. I was always taught that anything after the outlet plate is then classed as the appliance and is then under the PAT testing regs. But I do always do an extra check to confirm earth at the appliance no harm in going the extra mile to confirm these things. Good to see an electrician taking pride in their work not many tradesman out there who do nowadays!!! Keep up the good work

[@PhilipHudnott]

Had the label ‘discussion’ when I did my 18th update recently. The BBB clearly states ‘not smaller than those illustrated here’ so the tutor said that’s what we must do. At lunch we photocopied the labels at actual size, gave the tutor the inspection label, the RCD test label, the 2 colour label and the multiple supplies label. Gave the scenario of domestic with solar panels and 10 way CU. Challenged him to fit all the labels on the CU. Guess what he could not do? I think that as long as they are legible then they can probably be smaller. I use my Brother printer and 24mm tape, double height if needed, for all my labels. If needs be I’ll put it as a departure on the cert due to size constraints just to be bloody minded.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

If all the labelling can't fit on the consumer unit, it can be attached close by, on the wall to the side of the consumer unit for example.

[@beardedsparks2825]

Which they'll soon fall off of within a day or two.

[@alexanderkerr2663]

There has been an amendment to the 18th edition and they are putting the labels back to the old size. Must of realised they couldn’t work at that size

[@craigemmott4976]

IEE NUMPTIES!

[@CrazySparkie63]

Being told by my area manager that the labels for the 18th are the same size as printed in the book!

[@craigemmott4976]

Yep, bloody ridiculous! Makes you wonder what these clowns are up to at the IEE?!

[@Tokaisho1]

Pullcord heights, I normally set them at the same height as lightswitches

[@zedman442]

That plasterboard job gapping is shocking!

[@jaysgardens4626]

Brilliant video 👌

[@donnierobertson3088]

Good work

[@waynewinky2754]

Shocking plasterboarding - at 11:50 it looks like piece on the LH wall panel has been put on back to front ,wheres the grey face to it?

[@tc_electrician5329]

I test between outer casing and live in switch easiest way and you get a good readying 👍🏻👍🏻💡

[@anelectrician]

Very well presented 👍🏿

[@ThePhilandPam]

Great video, enjoyed that thanks 👍

[@tomorichard]

Your RCD test notices require changing also for the 18th. Crazy I know!

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

You may have been able to get all your lighting cables into the back of the fan isolator box, four 2 core and earth cables and one 3 core and earth cable.

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

Yeh I thought about that. Would have been perfect. The box was cut after boarding and I didn't want anything live floating about.

[@okan4875]

Also a video explaining what feed, supply and loop is please.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

Test and record at the fixed wiring point only, you can test at the appliance for your own piece of mind but it shouldn't be recorded on the test cert. Your circuit ends at the outlet not the appliance.

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

It let's me sleep better at night. Like I said "it's just how I do it". If a live conductor comes into contact with the ovens metalwork I want to be sure that the protective device will operate before my customers next meal.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

@@MyTrustedElectrician Yeah, as I said, do it for your own piece of mind if you like but come 10 years time, I doubt the next guy is gonna test at the appliance and if he's using your cert as a reference, he's gonna be thinking "Why's my reading lower then his???".

[@tomorichard]

Always take a reading at the isolation point and just a r2 to the final appliance for peace of mind and state on test sheet what has been done

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

@@tomorichard The reading should be taken at the extremity of a circuit, in Luke's case, this would have been to the oven outlet and not the isolator.

[@tomorichard]

Alvin Ashman sorry yes I agree but I wouldn’t go to the extreme to retrieve a R1 R2 / zs at the appliance itself maybe just confirm cpc continuity at the appliance

[@hotelhero4193]

So many Sticklers trying to pick out any tiny fault they feel you've made... Good honest videos, nice finish on your work. I've been on the job with plenty of cowboys Hat's off to you for testing the oven. Might confuse the next tester in but it'll hopefully make him use a smidge of common sense and check the oven housing when the values come up different. Cheers for the great efforts

[@SME_Ste]

32 amp ring shouldn’t be an issue. A ring leg is actually only designed at 20amp

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

How do you work that out, the typical current carrying capacity of a 2.5 mm sq copper conductor is about 22 amps, since a ring circuit has 2 feeds, the csa is 5.0 mm sq, that would give you a current carrying capacity of 44 amps.

[@tomorichard]

Because you are only joining one leg of a ring...

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

@@tomorichard Ok, in that case, yes I'd agree with the original statement.

[@LordRedDragon]

can u explain it in detail

[@ericthekingthekingtheking4842]

Great video mate your stuff is the best on you tube by far the likes of thomas nagy very good but never explains what hes doing testing or the like you and gsh electrical first class

[@okan4875]

Hello, can you please do a clear video based on how to wire up a one way ceiling rose

[@marcryan7800]

For the sake of the little cupboard and where the board is located I would have just pulled a separate lighting feed in so minimise the cables and the pull cord. Feed in and a switch wired would have fitted in the pull cord pattress surely?

[@shilks8773]

On the weight of the Oven. Do you check if oven doors can be separated from the body of the oven. I have a large double oven (De Dietrich) and both doors are triple glazed units. Both of the doors can be easily taken off with hinged securing clips on each of the hinges. The two doors make up about half the weight of the complete oven. This feature is prob only on the more up-market makes of oven. Neff/Miele etc. On the matter of CPC testing - My oven has a separate connector block (GB6:SF4506/CK) downstream from the isolater. This is situated behind the oven - so it would be this point that needs to be tested. Always best to test the oven itself as its about the biggest lump of metal in the house that's hard wired to the Electric circuit.

[@raychambers3646]

I think the fb will have to be made bigger to accommodate all the signage required! One that should be attached is don't touch if your not qualified.

[@johnoreilly7052]

I always test casing on the ovens all the time

[@abscomm]

As far as the labels go I thought the wording included the phrase "at or near" which would indicate that the stickers do not have to be on the unit if they are too big for it.

[@hotelhero4193]

I see your using the Kewtech KT64, i've always used Megger but fancy a change. Would the KT63 be just as capable as the 64?

[@garymckeown4278]

Hi Luke, just watched this great video. The font size of the labels should be in accordance with reg 514.12 in BS 7671 2008 (2015) A3. This is as stated in BS 7671 2018 corrigendum December 2018 and not as stated in BS 7671 2018. Hope this helps. Regards Gary.

[@markyd2633]

Another good vid......more testing and filling in certs please.......label sizes are the same as the ones in the book.....stupid I know.....keep em coming

[@linksone6287]

Fantastic video and explanation as well mate. Keep up the good work! I’ve got a question: I’m due to sit my 2391 exam in a months time, and wanted to erect a rig testing board. However, when ask my tutor for specs and how many circuits should I incorporate to test and have a good knowledge of testing for the exam etc, it was like he didn’t really want to tell me. Please please..? If you can, can you let me know what do install on a board in order to build my testing confidence? Your hep is much appreciated. Thank you Lincoln Thompson

[@alexdougherty4905]

Got flicked in the eye with copper before, nice trip to hospital.

[@Xenon777_]

I usually see emergency luminaries labelled EMG LGT

[@dianedyas5665]

Mmm yes but the problem with ring mains is sometimes people go from the consumer unit round all the sockets to the furthest point. The longest leg is from the furthest socket back to the board and it's pointless. Sensible way to do it would be to stagger them so as to share current more equally but no one does. Do you think it's ok to use a 30 a jb on a 32 a ring main? Thanks again for videos and happy new year.

[@Jannerjaunts]

What size core bit did you use. My fan says use a 117mm for my 100mm rigid sleeve. You reckon 107mm would be ok ?

[@generaldefencecounsel3490]

What is the name and artist of the song on your theme intro? It is a brilliant song! Great work also mate- absolute joy watching the way you work!

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

Not sure of the artists mate. I sometimes look for free music online and save what I like.

[@jamesmoon5632]

Thats a neat hole what size core you using mine always leaves a gap. I thought it was just over 100mm but looking at yours its perfect.

[@petertallowin6406]

Could you not have set one of your many other drills up with a masonry pilot bit and kept the core gear fixed on the other? The pilot bit in my core set nearly always falls out. :) Great video. Lunchtime Henry........

[@acelectricalsecurity]

I was told by one NIC guy that labels had to use a Font size of 12, but I watched a video of another you tube guy, john ward, and he said they had to be the same size as they are in the regs book

[@prabhsidhu308]

What core drilling set do u use luke for the extractor fan cut outs etc?

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

F@#k knows mate. Had the core set for years 😅

[@stephenpower9572]

Great video as usual. How did you make your own labels. What printer do you use to print them out?

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

Normal printer and parcel labels

[@britannic2000]

Hi Luke helpful vid as usual can I get the model of drill you used for the 110 core cheers

[@Mark-gf7yw]

Doesn't that model fan call for a 3A fcu? Or are you happy that its fed from a 6A mcb?........Seems pretty pointless I know.

[@stephenrowley4171]

In work we have a EL light which called CP30 which always makes me smile(yes Im a bit sad)

[@edglue6138]

We do d two

[@raychambers3646]

How many rings run at 32amps.

[@SME_Ste]

6mm into one of those hagers boxes, how on earth?

[@bumbles1584]

If its a J803 they are 4mm max

[@markyd2633]

Another good one......and label size ....the same as the ones in the book......stupid I know

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

between me and you, I didn't manage to do it because the fucking thing had 2.5mm wago's inside. That's my fault for not looking when I asked for it over the counter that morning. I had to make do with a standard Wago box and 6mm Wagos.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

She loves me, she loves me not, she loves me, she loves me not... If you know what I'm hinting at, you're a wrong'en 😂

[@markyd2633]

My comment shouldn't be here.....

[@DavidBromley123]

The value at the oven is actually an appliance, the fixed wiring ends at the cooker plate

[@DavidBromley123]

@@MyTrustedElectrician yeah there is a common misconception that appliance testing is only done on portable appliances, or things with plugs on them. There are many different types of appliance that should be tested, including everything up to fixed equipment. The Zs is up to the accessory and from that point on the Earth bond requirement is 0.1+R Ω for a class 1 appliance, the R being the resistance of the CPC in the supply cable. Nice to have a conversation about it though.

[@michaeljohnson1006]

The earth loop on to the case should not be much greater that at the s/w

[@ningis21]

The kettle and toaster fridge etc... ha...where will it all end?....Surely with PAT and FAT testing. Good point though. Thanks.@@MyTrustedElectrician

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

Yes, you probably should of had a separate emergency lighting key switch by the emergency light... you could say switch off the circuit breaker for that particular circuit for 3 hours but that would also mean you have no lighting to other parts of the property for 3 hours.

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

Hey mate. It wasn't serving as an emergency light. Just a clever idea to help somebody reset an RCD if it's dark.

[@GSHElectrical]

This is a late video Luke.... but as always 😁👍

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

is it a late Wednesday video... or an early Sunday video ;)

[@LordRedDragon]

whats the problem with prividing a 30A junction on a 32 A circuit

[@dianedyas5665]

There's not one as far as I know think it's a bit like the metric versus imperial thing.

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

Overload devices should be rated equal or lower than the equipment it protects. Just puts everything right for the next chap who turns up a few years down the line and wants to add a little more load onto the circuit. I nearly had this issue with an induction hob. I was going to use an old cooker supply that wasn't being used anymore. It would have probably gone unnoticed until christmas day when all rings were maxed out.

[@dianedyas5665]

Yes I know what you're saying but how is a 2.5 ring main on a 32a compliant? Excellent video thanks.

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

@@dianedyas5665 A 2.5mm ring (2×2.5) is similar to a 5mm radial which can carry more than 32A.

[@tomorichard]

Do those j803 except a 6mm?

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

Nope. I didn't realise that until I opened it up (bloody wholesalers). Had to use 6mm wagos and a wago box. The idea is idea is sound though so I left it in.

[@SME_Ste]

Theres also a driver called a Phillips 2 you know. Not many do

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

I remember Philips mate. When I was a lad my mum and dad had a little screwdriver set in the hallway cupboard which we generally used for everything. It had a bradle, 2 philips and 2 flat heads.

[@jongurney]

It’s actually a Philips/Slotted PH/S #1 ...... *nerd moment*

[@niallers8572]

Hi. Have you ever not been paid for doing a job?

[@carolhames4066]

Please consider the quality of the outdoor light fittings, how long will a Chinese fitting keep the rain out ? Before it gets damp inside ?

[@paulteasdale7112]

The eterna gear is actually decent quality. Have used loads over the last few years with very few failures.

[@DerekHundik]

Gravity is a myth

[@marceloness]

is big as is in the page >.

[@neilvincent9530]

do you have to swear

[@anonymoususer6248]

Yo i can edit videos well mate let me know if u want to me give you an example. I am a level 2 electrical installation student in collage.