Installing Apps On BYD

[@Doyouknowwhatimsaying]

Just got our seal the other day - also in bne. I'll be following your vids, keep up the great work.

[@TallPaulTech]

Have you pulled it apart yet? :)

[@Doyouknowwhatimsaying]

Nah - it's simply a second car for the kids. I won't be throwing any attention to it apart from charging during solar 😉

[@wongsifu460]

Could it be that BYD has disabled that feature on the new version of the car multimedia management (version 1) ? I plugged my USB stick and it doesn't pop up so I accessed manually the USB drive and I tap on the apk file, got a message "don't install 3rd party app"

[@SwiftChon]

Have exactly the same experience. Did you manage to solve it?

[@PAIHITECH]

same here

[@SkyPerspective]

Hi Paul, have you tried uninstalling the app? If yes, how do you do that. Thanks. Love your videos.

[@walterpark8824]

Oh yes! It-s fun to see some access to your own hardware. Like the Raspberry pi and esprssifs chips, when stuff gets used in unforeseen or creative ways, they become more interesting.

[@TallPaulTech]

Someone gets it

[@SergeiJonovich]

Wow - what a surprisingly open (password excepted) and responsive system you have in the BYD. Do the apps remain accessible whilst the vehicle is in motion? I'm thinking if for legal reasons (viewing video whilst driving being a no-no over here in the UK) they aren't?

[@Clove_Parma]

Because these apps aren’t made for automotive use, they don’t have any restriction to prevent use while driving to my understanding. Think the rule you should apply is Don’t Be a Dickhead. Unfortunately requires some uncommon common sense

[@shaawin]

Bloody love these BYD videos, keep em coming!

[@TallPaulTech]

Some commenters on here are saying that method of installing apps no longer works on newer versions. If that's the case, I'm going to go off about this in future.

[@francescopalmi3835]

Hi, I have BYD seal with 1.3.0 firmware and I confirm that this methods doesn’t work. Could you have a workaround? Thanks

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

Very interesting! I actually wanted to install the Alexa app on mine so I could unlock my garage via voice commands. You've given me hope.

[@TallPaulTech]

Nooooo!

[@Kieran28]

Just use a key fob,

[@SergeiJonovich]

“Alexa, emergency stop”, To which she replies, “the weather in Majorca is sunny, with chance of rain later….” 😳

[@TallPaulTech]

It's an 'it' not a 'she'.

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

​@@Kieran28you can also use a physical key instead of a fob... Doesn't mean you have to..

[@tld8102]

Does this void your warranty? Can you install a skin for the BYD UI? I find it very unintuative especially when it comes to climate control

[@chunkitpoh3749]

Just taken a Seal excellence in the UK. Seems that perhaps a new 'patch' or update to software over here in Europe has prevented installation of APK. The car recognises the USB stick (symbol top right hand corner) but does not prompt for password or installation. And using a file explorer to click on the APK files prompt a warning message NOT to install any third party software. I wonder anyone in Europe / UK has any bright ideas?

[@fortran31]

Have the same issue

[@TheGreenkey]

If it's just an android system anyway wouldn't it be possible to mute the startup/system sounds through android? Of course only if the android system handles those sounds...

[@TheOrgonaut]

nice , question do you have accses of the filesystem or root ???

[@stevenleonards4843]

Can you add the Android play store on byd and get access to apps from within byd that way? Do the apps need to use your phone as a wifi hotspot while driving, away from home

[@deserialized]

Really interested if you could download any of the "volume booster apps" to test what, the system handles. Right now we can conclude it does not use much of the 775w system. Seems, at least partly, software limited.

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

There is a method that can change the sound. So it gets much higher and much better. I have heard it irl. In a vip event. It sounded really amazing.

[@deserialized]

@@frankbjrnsten7189 please investigate that and come back to me this... Really looking for this

[@ghjdhghj1]

That’s not how it works. It’s a DAC amp which gets PCM data from android multimedia system.

[@MrGeekGamer]

Is it just regular Android or Android Auto?

[@yNeville]

what version is your system on? i didn’t think this was possible after the latest update (that includes the BYD Store app)…

[@pantherpigeon3048]

You are correct. 1.7 update you can no longer use the USB method

[@TallPaulTech]

So after that update (surprise surprise it takes some ability of the consumer away), is there still a way to put APK apps on there?

[@jamo128]

Apparently you can downgrade the software put the apps on, and then "upgrade" again.

[@ghjdhghj1]

There is - but you’ve deleted my comment on the byd enthusiast group I run, so I guess it’s nit welcome here. 🤷‍♂️

[@huntchris]

Thanks for the great video! Re the BOM and http - I think it is intentional. Not all apps require encrypted connections, and of course, there's a cost in providing one.

[@TallPaulTech]

That's crap. Certs are free or low cost for gov, and the gov is paid for anyway. Also, they have a server running https anyway, just to bounce you to http. It's bloody stupid.

[@christopherhunt9150]

Well, crap is a bit strong. Certbot requires regular renewal and setup. There is overhead. What do you see as the benefit to encrypting public BOM data?

[@Smallwood-pw1mm]

I heard that one reason to use Http is to accommodate old/incompatible devices used by old people. Given weather is essential service, they want to reach as many people as possible.

[@TallPaulTech]

Nah, because it would be easy to just serve on both rather than the weird bounce scheme they've got going.@@Smallwood-pw1mm

[@gnikolov]

Hello! Excellent video Do you know where can i get the latest firmware for the Seal?

[@Arnio-w2d]

thanks Paul. We have an Atto 3 with ota 1.7. It seems like we are unable to download and install any new apps into the OTA anymore. Can you provide some advice?

[@Andrew-Night]

Would we lose our car Warranty if we install third party apps??? I did the downgrade to the previous official BYD firmate update, installed All apps I wanted, and updates to latest OTA update. Everything os fine, however Today I went to BYD Málaga,Spain, and the seller made me think about this issue, ... nevertheless, I think amy engine issue, car parts issue etc should have a different Warranty, and infotainment another One . If your Seat, belt or a windows does not work properly, Warranty should cover those kind of issues independently if you installed third party apps or not... What do you think ?

[@TallPaulTech]

Sounds about right to me

[@Andrew-Night]

@TallPaulTech well , nowadays BYD Seal or any BYD user with the newest BYD update cannot install any third app, we cannot access to the hiden option to enable permissions to do It, but, there is a way very easy for this porpuse , check Felipe Correa, youtuber, his vídeo slideload apps for byd seal explains how. It just consists of installing the previous official BYD update which allows to give permissions, so you install the apps you are intetested in and then, you update again to the newest OTA BYD update. So that, the logical thinking takes for granted that the "general" car Warranty should cover all car parts (Windows, door car, seats etc etc ) even if you installed KZbin app or any third app...(If not it would be really crazy) Infotainment is one thing, and general car parts, other different. Besides, bearing in mind that we also are using the newest official BYD update...what's the problem?? we are of course using the latest BYD firmware, everything OEM as from factory. Despite of being in the latest BYD update, the installed third apps work fine. In addition to this ...we have always used official BYD updates. That all. The warranty would cover everything.

[@TallPaulTech]

@@Andrew-Night Sounds about right.

[@EzraH]

In the android developer menu is it possible to disable animations completely I'm wondering if it will make it feel more snappy its normally the first thing i do on my phone

[@ghjdhghj1]

You can set profiles if you root the head unit - I’ve done that. Seems to be snappier - but haven’t done any measuring.

[@MustyDeep]

@@ghjdhghj1how’d you root it????

[@gerhardtiller9286]

Do you have the latest update from Nov installed? Reason for asking is because i heard the password changes from version to version. Also they want to lock the possibility to install apps via sideload.

[@TallPaulTech]

So basically, they want to take a feature/function away from the user. Fantastic.

[@gerhardtiller9286]

@@TallPaulTech basically yes, but you also have to say in some cases or for some people it's saver for the car or user. Bad thing for us yes

[@ghjdhghj1]

You can roll back firmware - that’s what I did. 😊

[@gerhardtiller9286]

@@ghjdhghj1 so how does that work?

[@fog4260]

any method to record the 360 camera so no need to buy dash cam ?

[@rabbitazteca23]

would the app also rotate if the screen was rotated?

[@ugurdemir1506]

Hello, thank you for your sharing. I installed the APK files as you said to my BYD ATTO 3 my car. Some opened but some did not. For example, Yandex-Maps is opened, but applications such as Netflix and KZbin Music give an error and close before opening. Google cannot load at all. Recently, a software update was made to my vehicle by the authorized service for some corrections. Installed Software version: 13.1.32.2310180.1 After this update we can no longer install apk files. :) They blocked this. Before the update, when the USB memory was inserted, the password screen would appear and we would type the password. This password request screen no longer appears. Do you have any comments or solution suggestions on this issue? Thank you from now.

[@alejandraariza8213]

I got the same problem, do un fix it? Or found any solution?

[@voltare2amstereo]

BOM not https so everyone can access it regardless of system

[@hydroconcepts]

It seems the new 2041 seal version has changed file structure and the security password question is not there any more when you load a USB with the correct file structure. this makes the files imposible to load .. any ideas on that will be appreciated .

[@maz1980s]

I have the same question. Hopefully, someone will give us an answer.

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

What is the difference from this method compared to "silentinstall" and third party apps" method. Course they dont work anymore.

[@TallPaulTech]

What? You mean they've taken away a feature/function by doing an update? These companies never do anything in the consumer's favour.

[@ghjdhghj1]

I can help with that ^^ but my links get deleted so… oh well

[@gsw8995]

The Silentinstaller method do not require password. I hear it was blocked in recent OTA releses

[@williamdgh7942]

I wonder if you could just sideload an App store like aptoide and install apps that way?

[@rohitambani3257]

Nothing pops up after inserting USB. Please help 🙏

[@Carl_Georg]

That's awesome. I wonder if you can root the android distro.

[@TallPaulTech]

I could as long as it isn't fat

[@Carl_Georg]

what if it was fat 32?@@TallPaulTech

[@ghjdhghj1]

I already have

[@funty3000]

Just bought the seal 3.8, cant wait till I collect it!

[@TallPaulTech]

From Brisbane?

[@funty3000]

No I'm from Ireland, but I want to install apps straight away lol@@TallPaulTech

[@funty3000]

No from ireland, just on sale here since last week, still waiting for collection!@@TallPaulTech

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

Looks like it needs a car game or Minecraft 😊

[@kotasaikumarvarma2158]

I’m trying to install, but in Byd Sale, the software is not installing

[@merhaba12he]

Does this void warranty?

[@randyparra68]

Hey buddy how do I do to downgrade my byd sunplus 2023 ev, because I want to install apps

[@TallPaulTech]

No, but I think someone has done it. I didn't need to so never tried myself.

[@p3p5y2k]

This no longer works if the Seal software version is 2310 or newer.

[@TallPaulTech]

Well then that's rather shit and annoying, but sadly not surprising.

[@wenhaochong7466]

The password changes with each update. Just need to search for the latest one

[@ghjdhghj1]

So roll back 😊

[@ghjdhghj1]

@@wenhaochong7466 new firmware variants use a QR code based “BYD Auth” service - so not a hard coded password but a one-time-code based on car variables and byd cloud service. No known workaround (other than replacing aftermarket installer or sideloading certain apps BEFORE applying newest update)

[@i00Productions]

It's not a matter of the password changing.. it doesn't prompt for the password at all even!

[@mikechristie6556]

Hi from NZ. Will your install procedure work for my ATTO 3 ?

[@TallPaulTech]

I don't know, will it? (probably) You need a newer method since some upgrade where they apparently stopped that.

[@mikegofton1]

I wonder how secure BYD’s OTA update process is to a MITM attack ?. Perhaps I’m a little paranoid, however we seem to be accumulating a large number of devices in our homes that have encrypted traffic going to Chinese companies - which have a legal obligation to implement any changes required by the CCP for ‘national security’. The same CCP which has conducted cyber attacks on Australian government departments and private companies.

[@TallPaulTech]

None of my home IoT shit leaves the house. Packet captures so far on the car show nothing either. I prefer how this car behaves compared to others.

[@Alexpktang]

Yes you are overly paranoid ! My advice to you is to stay away from any Chinese products !!

[@mikegofton1]

@@Alexpktang Easier said than done now China is the world’s factory.

[@ghjdhghj1]

Very secure. Been trying to crack it for a while now.

[@TzaraDuchamp]

Happy New Tinkering Year!

[@Y2Kvids]

Now you can chase Tornadoes

[@palsingh720]

Hi Paul. Do the apps stop working when the car updates OTA . Thanks

[@dbmgreen]

They keep working, at least on my Atto they do

[@Makdroid]

Hi there, i love your enthusiasm in dissect this new car and show us what have behind the plastic. There is a new BYD software version, did you now? They erase and blocking third party installations, Byd is launching your own store with "certificates apps".

[@TallPaulTech]

I'd best not update then

[@andgate2000]

Do cars have anti virus software?

[@PatrickInCayman]

Hey thanks! I'll try this on my BYD HAN.

[@soulking_o1]

Where I should write this code?

[@mouskilla]

On PC cauz he have linux operating system, in case that you have Windows pc just format the usb stick in Fat32 and copy the apk to a new folder

[@greggpon7466]

Nice technical info.

[@voltare2amstereo]

Video series could be called BYDing time

[@sirgunar7608]

Hello! Is it possible to install a navigation application, for example Waze? I'm asking because you should see the GPS antenna and the mobile network there.

[@wikizhiyu]

Maybe I'm just dumb.. but why does your computer look like that?

[@TallPaulTech]

Look like what?

[@Crazy--Clown]

Probably never heard of or seen Linux

[@ricosun]

Watching this video on my seal while its charging

[@TallPaulTech]

Does it make a loud noise from the pump like I showed in my other video?

[@ricosun]

@@TallPaulTech Yes I think its the liquid cooling pump working... but in term of loudness, I think its okay, not that loud. But i was just charging at home using the granny charger.

[@TallPaulTech]

@@ricosun I hooked my charger up to my mate's Dolphin, and we could just hear the pump if we got close to listen to it, but it's nothing like mine.

[@sidelias]

Can you install KZbin?

[@stephenurquhart4117]

Well done. You are carving the BYD up - making it yours. PS - looking trim in that suit coat!

[@ceejcity]

I wonder if the password works on the Atto 3 aswell. This is game changing

[@TallPaulTech]

If I bought an Android anywhere else I'd be able to put apps on it. The fact that it's in a car that I also bought shouldn't really be any different.

[@funty3000]

I cant get the password to come up? I wonder is it updated, it says don't install apks for safety on mine!

[@TallPaulTech]

fucking 'safety' bullshit

[@luisjjjj]

Did you solve it?

[@baigui123]

Can install TikTok,KZbin, FB OR Instagram ?

[@TallPaulTech]

Why in the living fuck would I want any of that shit?!

[@sonysutjiono9052]

how can i get the password for my byd seal? or every byd seal password is the same

[@chinyurtidagiyurtdoshimras1332]

How it is asking password? And how to know the password? Or you set up the password for this usb card after formatting? Thanks for the answer… i have tried like this, but it didn’t open by itself and didn’t ask any passwords…

[@TallPaulTech]

Apparently it stops working after some particular version. I also disabled updates for that reason.

[@audas]

Wow - this is great.

[@chechech91]

Can install netflix?

[@capadosio]

Tesla could learn a thing or two...

[@senwang1982]

got a sealion hope it works too

[@SuspectAccount]

Seems to be an easier way of doing it directly from your phone according to a Russian KZbinr

[@ismailkaraik]

Can you give the link?

[@rolly4x4]

Happy New Year @TallPaulTech

[@TallPaulTech]

New year.. old year... it's all the same

[@zmey-]

@@TallPaulTech Nah, it's getting worse

[@賢劉-z5y]

If the car is Android can't we root it and delete the fucking chimes etc?

[@TallPaulTech]

I know a guy who's working on that side of things.

[@albaniigilikov3865]

how to install in BYD Song ?

[@bobbyblagov]

when i plug in the usb nothing happened, i can go manually to the folder, but cant open same as you

[@xiaojunyang483]

Need to buy a package of BYD diagnostic equipment contact me

[@TallPaulTech]

Tell me more

[@ML-cr7ds]

load home assistant on there :)

[@Lachlan.Wright]

Reason enough not to buy a tesla.

[@TallPaulTech]

Among many others.

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

It doesn't work anymore. So the video is nothing worth.

[@TallPaulTech]

So if/when I do an update, what method lets you put apps on? If there are none, then I might as well rip that screen out and put my own in.

[@kotasaikumarvarma2158]

I need your software copy

[@Pedro-1964]

With the new update is impossible

[@TallPaulTech]

Then don't update

[@fresh4u]

Good luck, that it soon will not work anymore.

[@TallPaulTech]

You assume I didn't block updates

[@fresh4u]

Yes. Because you hate the sounds @@TallPaulTech

[@baudhuinvansteenberge2279]

Do you have to catch a bus ? You speak too fast.

[@nunya2036]

Why swear all the time?

[@TallPaulTech]

What?

[@DrGnRIDER112]

Australia has very colourful language

[@Lachlan.Wright]

Australia

[@Kieran28]

Go and fuck yourselves, OP is clearly Australian and just trying to ask Paul why he swears so often in the videos. “aUsTrALiA

[@TallPaulTech]

@@Lachlan.Wright With a name like Nunya, I'd have thought you'd know the lingo. Nevertheless, I'm sure team Australia can chime in here

[@sovannpanhasum]

Hey bro! Could you help with BYD Song L? version 23.1.6.2401253.1