Installing EVE MB31 in the Gobel Power DIY Kit V2. But it does not turn on...

[@THI031969]

I had the same problem with the balance cables. 2 resistors blowed on the BMS. After I reported the problem to Gobel, a note was immediately added to the instructions and there was supposed to be a V2 cable set for which the labeling should be changed. BMS was replaced by Gobel. That was already in August 2024.

[@zonta71]

feels like home hearing that music. thanx Sir

[@davidpenfold]

I've just installed six wheels on my battery boxes this week, for 500kg each, which I thought was more than enough. Now I'm jealous 😁

[@geraldzincke2218]

Less wheels are better on an uneven floor.

[@rcinfla9017]

1) Try pushing the BMS reset button on the left side. 2) Try removing BMS Batt+ power wire for a minute and reconnect. Check amperage on Batt+ line with Uni-T clamp-on meter 2A scale. Normal running draws about 19 mA. BMS turned off Batt+ line draws about 0.15 mA. If doesn't fix, I would not leave BMS powered up in that condition.

[@AX2SEG]

Good call sometimes it might come good after a power down and drain to get all IC's behaving but I don't like that flickering usually that's a sign it's bricked and game over.

[@marcoarpago]

Cells hard to get in... can't imagine to get out . Thanks for this video as always !

[@sunshineossi]

That's why you should always have a spare BMS 😅 Luckily I always have 2 spare JKs lying around in my workshop 😂 I've finally got my 16 Eve MB31 cells from Gobel Power a few days ago. They really are very good quality - video coming in the next few days 😉 All the best for 2025 and keep up with the good work Andy 👍 Greetings from Germany 😎

[@Vanjonsorz]

Careful with those wheels Andy. All of mine fell apart whilst rolling the battery pack over Avery slightly uneven surface. Ball bearing s everywhere from the bearings breaking, then the wheels dropped off one at s time. Gobel replaced them, with no quibble, but the cases got damaged by the concrete floor.

[@kecke2937]

Hahaahaa what a nice dolly. Happy New Year Andy!

[@mikischiro]

Hi Andy, just yesterday I was testing for a review the same cell, (from another seller) and I confirm you that is May, mine 23/5/2024

[@m_cabral]

To lock your boxes together you can get knock down/flat pack server rack rails meant for low weight deployments like a network patch panel. Since you’re just using them to keep the boxes from shifting the rails wouldn’t be stressed.

[@TheCruisinCrew]

I recently fried one BMS by making a minor mistake with just one of the balance leads... hope you get it sorted!

[@murraysissons1809]

Love your SPAT break! You see your wife walking by the window with two ice cold SPATs! You live a charmed life! Other people talking inside their shops are viewed, by their wife’s, as nuts!😅

[@waardom]

Great work Andy! Re-use your stuff and make it better than before.

[@ronhellenbrand]

I'm happy I bought the EEL box!

[@joseo.cordero7286]

I have the EEL Vertical JK BMS Box. Very nice DIY box.

[@typxxilps]

@@joseo.cordero7286 really - i got it too and when it arrived it had been forbidden. In case of an accident no house insurance will pay for the damage cause the EVE cells are not built for these upright case. We had to sell the case. Huge mess and the should be forbidden in the EU cause all the insurances end in german re insurances which are not happy about these. The customs will no longer let them in due to the risk when the valve is not facing to the ceiling.

[@DonnieThomas-m2y]

@@joseo.cordero7286 I’m actually looking at that eel vertical battery right now, my yixenergy battery order just got cancelled from a US source so I need on like today!!

[@olafschermann1592]

Testing the cheaper Hithium cells would be something different what nobody (we trust) did before.

[@leumel900]

Can you please test the Hithium 314Ah cells? Original cells this time ;-) They are usually cheaper than the MB31 and have both a better cycle life and discharge stats, according to the datasheet.

[@Danish3Cubed]

I'd like that too

[@jeremyallard7015]

Andy Pandy. That is a Trolley and a half try the Reset Button, if that does not work investigate the wiring harness in more depth. Check the BMS for Blown Resistors. Are there any cables missing from your kit?

[@dreckbaer]

Thanks for the video - like always great job! I wonder which "other manufacturer" provides flexible bus-bars with an M3 thread?

[@michaelkaufmann2729]

had the same problem, cleaned the connections from the frontpanel. Bingo.

[@CienagaSolar]

Hey Andy, how many filled diy boxes do you think should be stacked without creating a real fire hazard if one cell in one box happens to get too dam hot?

[@stephan.scharf]

You should connect all four boxes via rack ears using two metal rails.

[@romocolan]

Hi even though the temperature probe is glued to the cell, I who live in a colder climate, would put some insulation over just the probe just to ensure that all the "heat" comes only from the cell. Anyone know which connector fits the Jk socket for the heatpad?

[@Handy-Harry]

Hey Andy, could you make a video about the difference in current between equal battery banks connected in parallel to te same inverter. I’m amazed how much the difference can be.

[@beefa5649]

Andy, looks to me, on there diagram, they start with a cell in the center of the box at the front and back, and the other cells are 90degrees to that cell, there for the main negative and positive are coming from one cell?, am I crazy?

[@SylwerDragon]

Nice video.. Now i know where you made a mistake.. I went and watched video on Gobel website how to make it done properly. I believe it was genuine mistake from your side.. I think it has a bit no sense why they put two connection into one connection in middle of battery.. I did check it few times just to see it correctly and box is Indeed only for 280Ah battery cells but from description and cells mentioned it looks like higher Ah cell could go in..that is why it was so tight for those cell ..I believe..

[@caesarvalenti2763]

I just finished my V2 build this week with MB31 cells. They fit very nicely. I did not have the problem that Andy had with the tight fit.

[@Lucy-StarMax-lithiumironbatter]

Yesterday I assembled a vertical 51.2v 280ah, it was not easy

[@SamiiEsra]

Do the MB30 have the same dimensions as the LF280?

[@322-Dota2]

yes. MB31, 30, lf280 are the same stuff, probably while manufacturing they test how much is capacity. So best is 31, a bit worse is 30 and worse is 280. That's how I imagine

[@leumel900]

No, they are very slightly bigger in all directions by design. Not very notable though, regarding the tolerances. At least judging by the allowed dimensions in the datasheet, a quite big LF280K could theoretically be bigger than a quite small MB31.

[@olafschermann1592]

@@322-Dota2and 2024 LF280K have 5% more capacity than 2023 LF280K. No idea why they kept the name the same

[@leumel900]

​​@@322-Dota2 This is wrong, I'm afraid. The amount of "goop" slightly different (so the weight is also higher) and also the internals of the cells are different (thicker separator layer). That is also why the MB31 has a much lower discharge current rating (never higher than 0.5C!) than the LF280K (1C cont. or even 2C pulse). That is not important for slow discharge solar storage purpose, but might be for other applications.

[@mandimandi2523]

@@322-Dota2 no, i do not think so. the chemistry might be different. LF280K has recommended max. discharge 1C, the MB31 only 0.5C!

[@derfreiemensch]

How much Energy storage do you need?

[@davidruhdorfer3857]

... and then we go nuts ... 😂

[@erickvond6825]

"And then we go nuts." LMFAO.... Didn't see that one coming. Nice dad joke.

[@olafschermann1592]

Any idea why EVE came back from their double screw hole battery terminals to single stud terminals?

[@uselesseater5916]

Eve lets other manufacturers put whatever they want on.

[@mandimandi2523]

the mb31 was first sold only with single stud. now you can buy it with double stud (original eve with the stainless steel coils). look at the dutch dealer.... word is nkon ..available in 8 days from now on....

[@calarndt]

Once again Andy great video! However once again you've neglected a glaring issue with the JK BMS. I bought one from china and its very annoying that they don't provide a installation manual. It's extremely annoying to have to take a picture of the chinese text and use google to translate the chinese pdf... So what do you miss EVERYTIME you install one of these bms's, you ask? Those goofy balance leads have two black leads. The manual says they are ground... OK great. Which ground, battery ground or cell ground??? There's only two black leads per four red leads so it must be battery ground, RIGHT???? I don't know and with the consequences of hooking up balance leads wrong resulting in letting the magic smoke out, I need your help. I've had this BMS for a month now and I still have no answer.... And the most annoying thing is that if it truly is battery ground then there is absolutely no good reason to have these black leads included with the cell positive balance leads. You can't convince me that the ground plane of the bms itself couldn't provide the accurate ground reference needed. Thanks for the excellent videos. But please don't skip this info on the next JK BMS install...

[@RobSteve1]

If it’s the inverter BMS, the first two black wires are the temperature sensors. On the first connector, the third wire, red, b0, is the first negative. The manuals are challenging at best. I am not sure if the people that translate or write the manuals are actual engineers or know anything about electronics. The manuals also seem to be coming from the distributors/resellers, not Jikong themselves. To top it off, the wiring diagrams seem to be low resolution thumbnail images enlarged, not the actual high resolution image that you could use to trace the wiring.

[@calarndt]

@@RobSteve1 I can't thank you enough! If I had only just looked a little closer! DUH...

[@kecke2937]

What happened to the BMS

[@322-Dota2]

nothing, wrong wiring by him

[@AndreaFurlan-ro8cw]

Does anyone know if I can parallel two inverter jk bms, one version 14 and one version 15? Thank you guys 😊

[@afferzikes]

U can.. I AM running 6 in parallel.. One v15 the rest is v14

[@AndreaFurlan-ro8cw]

@ thank you very much 👍👍

[@rdcabal]

Ok, 6 bms and how mamy batteries?

[@zorandjordjevic1969]

Holes from the front are 19 inch rack, or they suppose to be. And they also should have height of 2U or 3U or 4U ....

[@SK-ly1od]

Andy the man the myth. @17:48 swinging a uninsulated tool around. Then seconds later telling us to use isolated tools and cover life bars. 😂 just don't drop it and you'll be fine😊❤

[@jcgcs]

The latest 200A bms are giving problems. All kind of errors

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Get a 19" server rack, front of battery boxes have the correct mounting holes, add some 19" shelves, that way each battery will be removable. Get a tall rack, may get 6 or 7 of these battery boxes in. (None of this metric stuff)

[@stocki_esy625]

i still dont like the compression system that gobel uses. i just built an apesium(seplos) battery, and there you have a frame between the 2 rows of batterys, which allows the compression plate, to also pull between the 2 cell rows. so you have compression left,center,right which compresses the cells uniformly also they have one big pcb for the balance leads, which is easier and cleaner than a bunch of wires in my opinion

[@d.7189]

Ciao manca traccia audio in italiano e siamo in molti a seguirti, perchè?

[@super_hot_gatto]

se hai un minimo di dimestichezza con gli argomenti di questo canale dovresti anche saper masticare un minimo di inglese....

[@d.7189]

@@super_hot_gatto E quindi? Cos'è che ti disturba nella mia domanda fatta tra l'altro non a te.

[@marianoortiz7408]

pistas de audio tambien en español

[@HelmutWernerKulicke-wk6oo]

Check the On Off Switch

[@FlorinUrzica]

👍👍👍

[@njksky]

Bitte entferne die Transportfolie von deinem Newtonmeter Display 😩, please

[@olafschermann1592]

16:42 Machinegun Andy

[@olafschermann1592]

10:18 you need 6000N as there are 2x300kg which need to be compressed with 6 screws.

[@olafschermann1592]

I should have watched until 11:00 where you corrected it

[@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat]

THIS CHANNEL BECAME GOBEL POWER COMMERCIAL AD. I agree that needs info about stuff but not every single video last 3 months. Gobel doesnt send us those items so we cant buy new one every month if they screw up we stuck with what we got :D

[@PierredeVilliersLife]

🎉🎉🎉

[@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading]

Heya, lol great adverticement for JK BMS's. well the gobelbox looks great.

[@Shadow-ua.]

I watched a lot of videos, Gobel cases are just terrible. How can the holes in the factory-made case not match? Why don't the holes for the battery valve match?

[@RobertKooijman-x6c]

Indeed, doesn't really give confidence in their quality thinking.

[@rdcabal]

I like the Apexium DIY box

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

Like# 601 - darn notifications... or darn - no notifications

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

the Cherry Picker!!! 2 strips of aluminum or steel along the left and right side to lock the batteries together! Then moments later you say just this! Great minds!

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

What do Gobel Power cases, Walruses and TupperWare have in common? They both like a tight seal...

[@jonasgranlund4427]

Andy! I love you man but you remind me of my mom a little when you just push and push and push that button even tough something clearly is faulty! Please, the same second you notice something is wrong, take a step back, breath and think through everything, it an be an expensive mistake otherwise. :D

[@IchBinsBistDus]

ich hab deine Videos so gerne geschaut, auf Englisch, jetzt kommt diese Übersetzungscomputerstimme und ich kann es nicht umstellen, könntest du das bitte wieder Rückgängig machen? Ich würde gern weiter deine Videos schauen. LG Peter

[@michaelkaufmann2729]

Sprache in den Einstellungen ändern, also nicht deutsch wählen

[@IchBinsBistDus]

hab ich, trotzdem die Deutsche Frauenstimme

[@pondandmore873]

Das hatte ich auch. Es ist eine Einstellung in YT. Andy kann dagegen nichts tun.

[@nilskruger6534]

Versuch es nochmal, das klappt eigentlich ​@@IchBinsBistDus

[@olafschermann1592]

Ich hab den Mist auch seit 2-3 Wochen. Deutsche KZbinr reden auf englisch und englisch sprachige auf deutsch. Das doofe KZbin behirrnt nicht dass es Menschen gibt die beides verstehen.

[@jamiroquai33]

Only Seplos guys:)

[@rdcabal]

Try Apexium, change your mindset.

[@cyberplebs6577]

🐸🐸🐸

[@PlexMulti]

Hi

[@peterle987]

M6-Myth of force: you havent specified the size of the plate! the 300kg is only the force on the tip of the screw - not the whole area of the plate! Remember your Victron screw, which has to be tightened with much higher Nm rate. multiple tons ? Who needs hydraulic presses, when you can just use an M6 with 10 to 20 Nm....

[@holdenman8850]

Hey Andy. take a look at this sh1t so be on a T-shirt mate. You're welcome :)

[@you2bevsgoogle]

Das kann ja nicht angehn,weil dein FI auf OFF steht.

[@twingoman2000]

Der ist nur für den Ausgang gedacht, nicht für das BMS.

[@mosfetkiller3851]

bms müde, will schlafen

[@AX2SEG]

Yep bms has kernel panicked and dumped it's program most likely that or a component failure. Bricked you see this with a lot of things.

[@super_hot_gatto]

yixiang diy battery box is a lot better, more robust, better build, with a lot of accessories, a lot better cable managing, and last bust not last a lot cheaper than Gobel

[@Lucy-StarMax-lithiumironbatter]

maybe in the future ,you can have a try, our products☺

[@mandimandi2523]

I would never trust these toy-rollers. And never use the rotten pressboard sheet. get the GBL Castors rollers (8 pieces instead of 4, 150 kg each) and a real 24mm textured coated board. Andy, thats not real german craftsmanship........🤔🤔

[@Lucy-StarMax-lithiumironbatter]

In order to avoid unnecessary trouble, it is important to choose good quality🤭

[@slowjames6904]

Plywood is the go, chipboard is never cool, just saying

[@mandimandi2523]

totally agree....

[@camielkotte]

A non functioning device, i d rather take the power of by disconnect of the + and- terminals in the battery before leaving it unattended. How about insurance on the house and or garage when building batteries in Australia?

[@uselesseater5916]

No insurance without inspection. Nothing in there is inspected,

[@offgridgarageUSA]

Maybe you should've gone with the Pace BMS... LOL. I'm building the same box (#3) but with the Pace. 🤔

[@caesarvalenti2763]

I just finished building my box this week; also with the Pace. I had no problems at all. This is my second Gobel build. The first was with V1 and I can say that the V2 build went much smoother. Of course, there were NO instructions with the V1.