Installing Lucky Dave's Lucky 13 13" Bars on 2019 Harley Davidson Sport Glide M8

[@mistergoats]

The most common question I get here is "how tall are you and how do they bars sit?". Should I do a short video on the bar height/seat/riding position with the stock seat and the Saddlemen Step-Up?

[@michaelkozak7295]

Also no need to pull harness under tank. You are going to cut/splice wires any way. Just cut measure in how much wire needed. Then use a solder connecter and heat gun. Better connection then hand gun solder. I've done it his way. To each his own and found it easier then messing with thr harness under the tank.

[@Jacob-hf7fv]

Hey just for information I just did mine but I didn’t have to cut wires to feed through the bars it was a pain in the ass but I got it through the bar without any cutting

[@mistergoats]

Oh yeah, it CAN be done. Depends on the i.d. of the bar you purchase and how much patience you have! Hahahaha! I'd rather just solder than fiddle, but good on you for pushing that six pin TBW connector through the bars!

[@Jacob-hf7fv]

@@mistergoats I wanted to cry so bad lol your way was def easier then sitting their struggling for hours

[@mistergoats]

@@Jacob-hf7fv man, I have been there on lots of other projects. I'm proud of you for persevering.

[@michaelkozak7295]

Nice work.. BUT ya can't fine tune the handlebars. The tilt up or down. Your bars are stationary. To each his own. Enjoy. I put 12 in mini apes with a 3 in pullback risers. This set up can be fine tuned.

[@mistergoats]

Thanks Michael. That's true; the Lucky Dave's bar is designed as a one piece. In my experience, and for my riding style, I prefer a stable, solid bar. I'm always skeptical of multiple failure points on critical control elements of a motorcycle.

[@obiwanhavanese]

Nice work Geoff. Next time, I'll try to be your second set of hands.

[@jeffnemeth1493]

I am trying to get exact bar job done on my 19 M8 Lowrider, nervous about the job if I do it myself and the labor costs are crazy. Was quoted $411.00 for just a Harley cable kit, did the extensions cost far less? I've got no experience currently with a sawdering wire.

[@mistergoats]

Hey Jeff, yes, I got the Guerrilla Cables kit and it came in for the light extensions and clamshell wiring at around $120 USD; significantly less than the Harley kit for effectively identical wiring. Here in Canada a bar job is quoted at 6-7 hours at $140/hour. After doing it twice now, I understand why. This job is a pain in the ass. It's not hard, it's just tedious. As long as you take your time and make sure you mark each wire, you'll be okay. When I did my first M8 softail, I had almost no experience with soldering, and there's lots of opinions and techniques on how to do it. I give myself enough bare wire to make a mechanical twist that holds pretty tightly and then place a small bead of tiny diameter (0.6mm) solder onto the connection, then heat shrink the wires, which you have to prepare for BEFORE soldering the two wires together (or you can tape them after, but this is less "watertight"). I'm by no means a pro and I did it. Good luck and let me know how it goes.

[@LonerBoi88883]

nice video man. sport glide is such an awesome bike

[@mistergoats]

Rad man, thank you. I have a 21 RG now, and I miss the Sport Glide lots. It's really a versatile bike. I should have kept it and done a cam for a little more power.

[@jorgesevilla6582]

How are those golden tight bushings feeling these days, still feeling solid or have they loosened up?

[@mistergoats]

Hi Jorge; sorry, I've since sold the bike and I'm on Road Glide now. I know the new owner - I'll check with him and see.

[@johanw8157]

Hi! Awesome vid, thanks for taking the time to make and post it! I got a 2019 sport glide and ordered the same bars from lucky daves. I got the plug n play extensions from Guerilla and they are super helpful over there! One question, which length of clutch and brake lines did you buy?

[@mistergoats]

Hey there! I took the bike into Harley and had them order the lines. When I spoke to the parts person, we discussed getting the stock lines off the Street Bob, as they are already the right length needed, so he looked up those part numbers. I didn't get the actual measurements, sorry.

[@johanw8157]

Np, thanx for getting back so fast

[@dino5254]

Geoff did the stock grips just pull out without any issue like adhesive? I would want to use the same ones for now.

[@mistergoats]

Hi Dino, the throttle side grip comes off without any effort... it's just held on by the clamshell housing. The left side is glued on to the stock bar. I've seen some people remove it and reuse it, but I think it's a combination of solvents/compressed air to get it off. That's why you see old Harley bars on craigslist with one grip on them all the time. So, if oyu can figure out how to get that grip off without damaging it, go nuts, but you'll likely have to glue it on to the new bar so it doesn't spin around.

[@anthonygm85]

I just pulled my tank on my 2018 fxlr. Do you think I need to grab extensions? I got 11 inch lucky daves, they seem like they'll Mach up up with no problem

[@mistergoats]

Hey Anthony, I'm not expert, so don't quote me on this, but I think you'll be fine. I literally extended the wires on mine by about 2 inches.

[@anthonygm85]

​@Geoff Gauthier where did you the wire extensions? I'm having hell of time trying to depin the connectors I'm thinking of cutting and sodering in a few inches of wire

[@mistergoats]

@@anthonygm85 the kit is from Guerrilla Cables. It wasn't super expensive. I had to cut and solder a few wires, too. The de-pinning tools I have are terrible!

[@Steve-fq1ln]

Hey Geoff great video, like you vision. Just wanted to know your thoughts on the klock works windshield? I'm 6 1 want to increase from the stock but don't like the look of huge big screens. Appreciate your time thanks Steve

[@mistergoats]

Hi Steve, apologoes for the late response. I had that Klockwerks screen on there about a month or so, and while it worked really well for me, I decided to change it up and went with a Memphis Shades Road Warrior with a n 11" screen. It ended up being the perfect set-up for me. I'm a bit taller, so it's more like a wind blocker for my chest; I'm too tall int he torso to use anything for a face-covering windsheild, and I like my head in the wind anyway. I've since sold the Sport Glide and moved on to a Road Glide, where I intend to put a Klockwerks screen on this bike, too. Hope that helps!

[@juliol2144]

i have a 2020 lowriders and I'm installing the same bars as you, for the wiring if i get the 12 inch gorillas will that be ok?

[@mistergoats]

Yep - that should work just fine.

[@Krippztr]

How tall are you? And where does the bars place your hands? Due to your shoudlers height? Lucky Daves Lucky 13" are for shure a nice looking bar. I cant decide if to go 11" or 13" thats why all the questions :)

[@mistergoats]

Hey there, I'm 6'0" (183 cms). I have a pretty long torso and long arms. This bar hits perfect for me. I put the bar on before I changed the seat. With the stock seat, it was a tiny bit tall (the stock seat is plush/cusion-y, so your ass sinks down in the seat a little). I replaced the stock seat with a Saddlemen Step-Up and now it's perfect. The harder seat also pushes me about 2" more forward. Hope that helps!

[@danielhagerty8460]

Did you have to extend your break line and your clutch? I just got 6 inch risers and 4 inch bars

[@mistergoats]

The stock brake and clutch lines are very short. You can get about 4" of additional height out of them and they will be very taut. I had to exteend both the clutch and brake. It's all explained in the video.

[@patrickboccio8016]

I know this video is a couple years old but I’ve hit a lot of dead ends. I’m trying to mount the same bars. Do you remember the cable extensions( brake and clutch) you bought?

[@mistergoats]

Hey Patrick, sorry, I don't have the part numbers (I don't have the bike anymore, either so I can't have a look), but when I went to Harley and asked, they gave me the clutch upper and brake cable from a Street Bob, which are about 12" over stock. Keep in mind this means they are about 12" from the termination point of the abs connection under the triple tree, not 12" total over the cable, so the clutch ended up being really long. One of the parts folks at your local dealer can get the numbers for you. Hope that helps.

[@AntipodeanDescent]

How long did you go for the cable kit for these?

[@mistergoats]

Hey there, I bought the Guerilla Cables "softail" cable kit. I think they give you 12" of wires, and you have to cut them to your specifications. It's lots of cable to work with. If you meant the clutch cable, I asked Harley for the Street Bob length one as they have the higher bars.

[@LOMROB]

Would clutch and brake line extensions be needed for the 11” Lucky Dave bars?

[@mistergoats]

I'm not entirely sure. On the Sport Glide, the stock clutch and brake lines are VERY short. The signals and the throttle by wire cables will be fine (internal wiring), but you might be a little short on the clutch and brake. I remember reading that you can raise the bars about 6" without having to change the brake/clutch.

[@EazyE11]

My bike sat in the shop for 7wks waiting to get 12in mini apes installed but due partly to the current pandemic and whatever else is going on at harley they never got the parts. So I just pulled the bike out and canceled. Never was happy about the $1000 qoute I got but it was better than the others who were over $1400. Didn't think to have them meet me half way and just do the clutch and brake line 🤔.

[@mistergoats]

Ya, that was sort of a side thought - I only asked them to do the brake line as I didn't want to mess with the possibility of the ABS locking up on me. They installed the clutch line, too (that's BY FAR the easier one of the two as it only takes a couple of a seconds). That's a bummer about the time it took. Sorry to hear that.

[@ellissmithjr6599]

Question: Why did you choose the "pull back" bars instead of the MX bars?...Do you have short arms?...isn't the pull-back mostly for the wheelie crowd?...I really want to know Why...Thanks

[@mistergoats]

It's all personal preference. I have long-ass ape arms! The San Diego bar is the straight equivalent to this Lucky 13 bar. After talking to the rep at Lucky Dave's, he said the pullback is WAY more comfortable on long-range rides. I also got the bar before I got my Saddlemen seat. Had I known the seat would push me forward a couple of inches, I would have gone with the San Diego instead. Also, I wanted the extra 1" taller of the 13" bar (over the 12" San Diego) as I have a long torso, too. As it sits right now, fully together, it's pretty comfy. There's a little slack in my elbows, which is nice. I am certainly not a wheelie guy, so there was zero thought put into the purchase about that. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need more details.

[@ellissmithjr6599]

@@mistergoats Thanks for replying,everything you said does make sense and I Agree about going with the 13"over the 12"👍. This info will help me when I choose my risers,many are choosing the pull-back so I guess it mostly for the same reasons. Again,thanks for all the info 👍😎🇺🇸

[@mistergoats]

@@ellissmithjr6599 You bet, man. Let me know if you need anything further!

[@podi1984]

So, 12 in bar won't need any extensions?

[@mistergoats]

Hey Mark - you won't need electrical extensions, but you will 100% need to extend the brake and clutch lines.

[@MC-eq8sm]

Nice set up! Can you tell me what you have done to the turn signals so they point forward? Mine are at the end of their adjustment and are misaligned

[@mistergoats]

Thank you! Hey, mine are very slightly misaligned, too. They toe-in a bit. I took the time to loosen the nut and aim them as best I could, but ya, to my eye they are still crooked and drive me nuts. I considered filing off the little tab on the top of the light pod mount that locates to a hole in the clamshell and that would make it very easy to align the light pod properly. The problem is that it would end up spinning from vibration. I might have to fab a new mount for the light pods. Hope this helps!

[@MC-eq8sm]

I stopped by the dealer today for ordering the clutch cable and the break line. I spoke to them about the turn signal and they offered me Part Number 68185-00. They had a used one on hand so I can try it out. I must say that it works good and not expensive (for a change).

[@mistergoats]

@@MC-eq8sm Oh dang - that's cool. A little more swivel/rotation in that, hey? Now, do they come in black...

[@MC-eq8sm]

Geoff Gauthier Bare metal and chrome...

[@paulmears825]

When you pull the rubber housing off how do you know what wire goes were? I’m attempting my first FXr division bar install this weekend

[@mistergoats]

Good question, Paul. They are relatively easy to trace as it's split in half, physically, by the way the plastic is moulded. There's an upper section (right hand side wires) and a lower section (left hand side wires). The headlight and ABS wires have their own ports (you don't need to remove these). The blinkers are grey connectors, and the hand electronics are black. The housing colours match the ports where they insert under the rubber housing.

[@paulmears825]

Geoff Gauthier Thanks Brudahh!

[@mistergoats]

@@paulmears825 You bet Paul. If you need anything else, let me know. I've done two M8 bar jobs so far. I'm stripping mine down again this winter because I need to change the chrome blinker shells to black. Just creating more work for myself! Best of luck! You can do it.

[@paulmears825]

Geoff Gauthier well I thought everything was a complete success and I used all plug and play Guerrilla cables in my FXR division 14” split angle t-bars so I didn’t have to solder anything. They look insanely good! I’m blown away at the quality etc! Only one problem. When I snapped a photo yesterday I noticed both tun-signals stay on like parking lights everything works correctly other than that. I’m going to switch the bulbs out first before I pull Humpty Dumpty apart again. I know bulbs are integrated and I might have joggled on around in the process somehow but outside of the bulbs any suggestions? I took detailed pictures of the wiring lay out and it’s all plug in play connections. Just doesn’t get much simpler. I just can’t imagine what I did. Definitely no pinched wires or anything. Any help would be appreciated! Cheers!

[@mistergoats]

@@paulmears825 Hey Paul, mine are running lights on the M8. I have the Custom Dynamics LED inserts, and they are on as running lights (white) when the bike is on. They change to amber when the bike is signalling (on the side that it is signalling; the opposite side stays as a white running light). I'm not sure if you did anything wrong at all. I think it's supposed to keep them on at all times.

[@bcbsilverhawk8426]

Nice video. To confirm, you did say you can go up to 12" bars without needing wire extensions? Take care.

[@mistergoats]

Hey, sorry for the late reply - you'll need to extend the brake and clutch lines, for sure - the stock ones won't reach at 12". The internal wiring - both clamshells, TBW, and turn signals will totally reach at 12". I extended all of them by 2" for safety and now I have a small clump of wires at the housing that makes it a little bit of pain to open and close the fairing clamp on that side. Hope that helps!

[@alecwilliams9207]

Hey! I assume it’d be the same thing for 10” bars as well? Just the clutch and brake line?

[@mistergoats]

@@alecwilliams9207 Hi Alec, ya, for sure with the 10" bars you're only going to need to extend the brake and clutch lines. Everything else should reach just fine. Just be prepared to set aside a good couple of hours to work the wiring through the bars. Do the TBW side first because it's MUCH harder; that's leave you with the left side done in no time. I literally added 2-3 inches of extended wiring and I have a small surplus of wiring at the housing in the frame. Good luck and let me know if you need anything else.

[@TheMisterNyceGuy]

If I were to put 10 or 12 inch pullback T bars on my sport glide what all would I need to extend?

[@mistergoats]

If your Sport Glide has ABS (petty sure they all come standard with it, but maybe some don't) you'll need the brake line extended by a Harley tech as if you do it yourself you can get air lock in the ABS module. You'll also need an extended clutch upper cable. You'll need an internal bar wiring kit (I use Guerilla Cables) for the clamshells and the throttle by wire. You'll also need turn signal wiring, too if you go any taller than 10" and want to keep the blinkers in the stock location. You can reuse the riser bolt hardware, but I would suggest against it (I replaced mine with longer bolts from LA Choppers). And you'll want to get stiffer riser bushings like the Gooden Tites I used in the video.

[@kiwimoto9056]

Did you go 2 1/4” x 1/2” with 13 thread? Cheers.

[@mistergoats]

@@kiwimoto9056 hey there - I went 1/2" - 13 x 3" LA Choppers Riser Bolt and Cone Kit. I emailed Lucky Dave's to see if they could tell me how far up the threads go, and they told me it varies depending on the size of the threaded bung they get made, but that that the 3" long bolts would be fine.

[@kiwimoto9056]

Thanks for the fast response man! I’ve just ordered 2.75” Gardner-Westcott riser bolts (05-11430). ...The OEM bolts are 2.5” long. Bars i’ve ordered are fat 1.5” dia 14” Drag Specialties Big Buffalo T bars - Flat Black (0601-4323). I’ve bought the Alloy Arts Gooden Tite bushings (GT-2S), NAMZ 4” TBW (NTBW-JO4) and 4” clam shell (NHCX-JO4) wiring extension kits. I’ll wait and see if i need the turn signal wiring extensions before I order them. If anyones reading this and installing 14-16” tall bars on a ‘18 onwards Sport Glide the OEM HD black upper clutch cable you’ll need is 37200327 (41” +6”) and black upper brake line 41800678 (27” +7”). You’ll also need HD ABS adaptor 41600260 for OEM black finish brake lines. Now the fun part is over, thats the online shopping part, let the real work begin .... 😎

[@DerekFurtney]

The more you know!

[@maheshamarasinghe4372]

If I install a 10 inch bar do I need new cabel kit?

[@mistergoats]

Yes, absolutely. You might not need the wiring for the turn signals (there's easily 12 inches of wire for those) but you will 100% need a wiring kit for everything else. All the other stuff is stock bar length.

[@maheshamarasinghe4372]

@@mistergoats , Thanks!

[@philmarquez8707]

Fuck that imma pay a pro to do it... no can do...

[@mistergoats]

For sure, I get that man. Make sure you find someone capable to do it - the labor is expensive. The video doesn't show it, but this took me almost 5 hours.

[@jackchristodoulou197]

Way above my ability I would have just told the shop to do it for me

[@mistergoats]

The shop quoted me $1700 CAD to do it. It ended up not being that hard.

[@dino5254]

6-8 hours @ $150 labor rate plus your parts, yes about $1700

[@dino5254]

@@mistergoats I'm just going to put the OEM pull back risers on mine with no need for new cables and extensions. This is the easiest way for me plus powder coat the bars and risers. Same quote for me to install bars. The tech says its the same amount of charge to do the stage kits lol.

[@mistergoats]

@@dino5254 ya, I mean, they are skilled professionals putting stuff on your bike, which is good, but that charge for things that I'm skilled enough to do, I can't justify it!

[@kgphxaz]

Any chance you could break down were each of those plugs go in wire harness?

[@mistergoats]

Hi Keith, for the harness, almost all the plugs can only go into one slot. The turn signals are the same size on both sides, but one plug is grey and the other is white. When I removed everything, I marked the throttle side wires with a bit of tape both on near the switch and near the plug and that made everything easier. The TBW and both the starter side and high beam side are three different sized plugs, so it was not problem fitting them in. I hope that helps.

[@kgphxaz]

@@mistergoats it does I appreciate the help 👍🏻