Installing Newel post and stair railing | Finishing my Basement | Episode 28

[@TomKaren94]

THANK YOU for not editing out your mistake. Too many aren't man enough to admit they made an error. Leaving that in creates a high level of trust. Very useful video. Thanks.

[@PlatoonGarage]

Yep, I'm definitely not perfect. Figured if others could avoid the same mistake it would be helpful

[@LensCapJB]

not gonna lie, youve done a great job here.

[@mahjab1338]

Great job. Full of information, would use.

[@jeffdeluca1153]

I'm a fairly accomplished DIY-er. But this project is not for the faint of heart! You did well! Pretty sure It would have taken me at least 2 newel posts as well!

[@PlatoonGarage]

@@jeffdeluca1153 thanks for the compliment, it definitely was tricky, but turned out great

[@alexalbaugh8829]

Great video. The ol' trip back to the hardware store lol classic.

[@2getherWEventure]

Great video. Thanks for the detail as well. Big props for thinking ahead where the plugs are going to avoid having them overlapping with the balusters.

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks for watching. Definitely put a lot of homework in before I got started, but the results were exactly what I wanted

[@VinMotors0613]

even with the mistake, you are still saving a ton of money doing this install your self. Good work Sir!

[@PlatoonGarage]

Absolutely right 👍. Saved a bunch and learned some new skills along the way

[@robertcasey7312]

Thank You! I’ve been wanting to do this for a long time. Sincerely appreciate your producing and sharing such a great video.

[@PlatoonGarage]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@weekendhomeprojects]

Awesome video! Thanks for sharing.

[@jacobcairnes521]

How did you attach the rail to the box newel post?

[@beardedelephant3023]

Watching this video is going to save me $800 in labor. Thanks bro

[@PlatoonGarage]

You're welcome! It's going to save at least that. Contractor labor has gotten way out of hand over the pandemic. Good luck, you got this

[@beardedelephant3023]

@@PlatoonGarage absolutely. I understand they have to make money too but come on. Lol

[@VictoriasFolly]

Looking brilliant Chris!

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thank you! Really happy with how it came out

[@Slydo]

The 3" rookie mistake, failing to account for the newel post moving closer to the wall, so resonates. I've lost count of how many mistakes like that I've made.

[@PlatoonGarage]

Painful 🤦‍♂️

[@dilldowschwagginz2674]

Same here. I've been doing work like this for years and still occasionally slipup like that.

[@keithcaldwell7187]

Nice job. How did you attach the hand rail to the newl? Zipbolt?

[@theapprentice1302]

Nice work man.

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@sanmac9621]

How did you installed that wood block? !

[@millidollarduck9300]

Do you have a link for the attachment kit for metal stair rails?

[@teodorpodaru2350]

Well done!

[@baq8680]

Looks great! Nice job!

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks 🙏

[@bennyportillo7674]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@dcal7406]

How does it install to the post at the bottom end where you did the 45 cut ?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Not sure I understand your question. The Newell is attached to the small pieces of wood via screws

[@mjanampa01]

How far from each other did each banister had to be install?

[@PlatoonGarage]

@@mjanampa01 it depends on your county's requirements. Back when I built mine you could not have a 5-in ball pass between two of the balusters

[@NickC4real]

Awesome video and I like how you admitted u messed up. Kind of funny actually. But this video is perfect for me I have the same set up but opposite side of the stairs. And I don’t have the angled wall continuing down but I might include that. I will be for the most part copying this set up . Thanks a lot for the video

[@PlatoonGarage]

Glad you enjoyed it 😊. I wanted to make sure to include my mistakes in my videos since everyone seems to do all diy projects perfectly on KZbin 😊

[@Yoyo-np8kn]

Thanks for making this video & good job!!!

[@PlatoonGarage]

👍

[@greenreflections]

Gorgeous. But how did you attach the rail to the Newel post?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Glue and a 3" wood screw

[@cheezmeeofficial]

I didn’t understand how you measured the nevel post, and how you did the cut exactly. Btw it’s a good video. Thank you very much🙏

[@PlatoonGarage]

It's kind of hard to explain in words only. The measurement is to get the proper rail height. So you need to make the measurements based off of where you want your handrail. If you are not going to notch the bottom, you can fit it right up to where the stairs are going to be and make your measurements that way. If you notch like I did. You have to take into account the fact that you're moving the Newell post closer and it changes the calculation

[@cheezmeeofficial]

@@PlatoonGarage thank you very much 🙏it was helpful.

[@gexoll]

If you put a rail on the wall side and left that open would that be to code?

[@PlatoonGarage]

I'm not a professional inspector, but I'd say that is highly unlikely

[@avaalbertini9584]

Sorry for being dense, but explain why notching it and having the wood closer caused you to come up 3 inches short on the cut? notching it didn't cut any length off so math that you described to come up with the height should still have worked as it was described? Any additional information would be appreciated. It looks great.

[@PlatoonGarage]

It's hard to explain, the best way I can think is if both rail attachment points move when notching the Newell, then the distance the railing is from the knee wall wouldn't change. But since the railing is attached at the wall, but moving the Newell closer to the wall actually changes distance which made the railing too short for the local code. That's super confusing and probably not helpful 😂. Anyway, I tried 👍

[@donthom1924]

I missed the part showing how you connected the railing to the newel post....

[@PlatoonGarage]

Railing to post is a 3" screw

[@louisvenezia7422]

Do the ballusters come with the adjustment screw and boots?

[@PlatoonGarage]

No those are sold separately unfortunately

[@louisvenezia7422]

@@PlatoonGarage Thank you excellent video and helped me with my stairs project!!

[@DonaldHall-v9f]

What is the kit you used to install the metal balusters? The rubber insert at the tip? I didn't see it in the video description. Great job btw. Stairs look great

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks for watching. Is this what you are looking for? www.homedepot.com/p/Stair-Parts-Tap-and-Twist-1-2-in-Hollow-Metal-Baluster-Install-Kit-92001-TNT-HD00S/300431475

[@giannidonadoni3758]

Hi, my name is Gianni and I'm writing to you from Italy. great work, I would like to do a similar project to my house. How can I purchase the kit material to make Thank you God bless you

[@mre1107]

What are the baluster plugs you have?

[@PlatoonGarage]

I put links in the description for everything I used in the install

[@AAHouts127]

Can you put in a link for the hand railings you chose, including the hardware and the angled railing? I love everything you did and I want to do something similar. Great job!

[@PlatoonGarage]

Sorry I missed your comment. the description of the video has links to the things that I used for this project. The newel post I picked up from lowes locally. hope that helps

[@patricksullivan9713]

Awesome job I’m going to try this soon!

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks. I love how it looks

[@Dave-pp3eq]

How did you fasten the rail to the newel post😢

[@PlatoonGarage]

3" screw 👍

[@jessiemoss9568]

That’s was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 thanks for the Video

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@franciscocruzjr5721]

Thanks, very helpful.

[@Faruk651]

The caps that you slide to cover the plugs bottom and top, how did the angle work out perfect? Every staircase has different angle. Did you have to cut those to your angle?

[@PlatoonGarage]

I measured and cut the handrail to be 45 degrees, which is the same angle as the baluster caps 👍

[@Faruk651]

@@PlatoonGarage You can't just make your handrail to be 45 degree. You handrail must be same angle as your stair stringer and every staircase has it's unique angle. And I doubt that is 45 degree, probably 37.5.

[@dawitabate2939]

You didn’t list the plug please where do I find?

[@8BitLife69]

You didn't link the kit for the baluster installers.

[@PlatoonGarage]

you can pick it up at home depot. made by evermark

[@8BitLife69]

@@PlatoonGarage Thank You!

[@rationalistinanev]

Thanks so much! What are those black pieces you used to tighten the balusters by turning counterclockwise and using the 8mm wrench? We've chose balusters with a decoration in the middle, I'd love a way to adjust a little vertically

[@PlatoonGarage]

They are small threaded adjusters that have a screw in them. They came in the baluster kit. You might be able to find some separately

[@jacobcairnes521]

What was wrong with the post being 3" closer to the wall? Im getting ready to make this same cut.

[@chrisb4769]

It's in the video, it made the post too short

[@jeremyroach6971]

Where did you get the plugs for installing the ballusters? Thanks for the concise video

[@PlatoonGarage]

Plugs came with the kit

[@DIYJIM]

I plan on doing something real close to what you showed in this video Thank You

[@PlatoonGarage]

Glad you found it helpful

[@DIYJIM]

@@PlatoonGarage your channel is looking good. I started posting videos on my channel almost two years ago now. You have any questions just ask.

[@DCDLaserCNC]

Looks great!

[@freedomtime1287]

What saw did you use to cut the bottom of the post?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Miter saw for most and finished the cut by hand with a hand saw

[@jaybilling9678]

What clips did you use for metal ballisters and where did you purchase? Thanks

[@PlatoonGarage]

Material list of everything I used is in the description. You can get them most anywhere, Amazon, Lowe's, home Depot etc

[@codywild278]

Great video. I have been over planning this so I don’t have to buy a new one with a mistake. How did you make the cut? I’ve been going back and forth on what I should do. Thanks

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks for watching. I made the cut with a combination of my miter saw and the angle I did by hand with a small wood saw

[@dilldowschwagginz2674]

If you have a 12" compound mitre saw it would help. Otherwise, you're looking at a circular saw and most likely a rough looking cut.

[@Rayquesto]

I understand there is confidence in the rigidity of those dowel screws to put the turn pieces of the rail together, but would there be a problem if you glued every piece together with the wood glue instead of the dowels?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Not sure honestly, this is the first railing I've ever put together and I only wanted to do it once. Maybe, try it with just gluing and see if it holds up, you can always fix it if it comes apart later

[@rdigity1]

Yeah man, there's nothing easy about doing stairs. I'm surprised you did this all yourself! I always bring an extra body for this kind of work.

[@PlatoonGarage]

Definitely a lot easier with an extra set of hands

[@nicoleangelfacereid]

Wow, you are so handy! Are you going to do a tour when everything is complete?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks for the kind words. I'll absolutely be doing a tour when complete. 👍

[@tomcvan]

What is the kit you used to install the metal balusters? The rubber insert at the tip? I didn't see it in the video description. Great job btw. Stairs look great

[@PlatoonGarage]

You can use a kit like this... www.homedepot.com/p/Stair-Parts-Tap-and-Twist-1-2-in-Hollow-Metal-Baluster-Install-Kit-92001-TNT-HD00S/300431475

[@AmericanBadAss901]

Hey, what is the color of that black wall if you dont mind me asking. I want to paint a ceiling black and trying to get exact color ideas

[@PlatoonGarage]

Benjamin Moore Kendall Charcoal is the dark wall color

[@AmericanBadAss901]

@@PlatoonGarage Thanks

[@kwesip6267]

Very nice

[@johnbrill1183]

Great video and love the classy look. How did you determine the spacing between the ballusters...?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks, it turned out great. The spacing was determined by code, I can't remember off hand but I think it stated a certain diameter ball could not pass through between them so I measured and set the spacing for that

[@owenw.9372]

What are your plans for the actual stairs?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Stairway is going to get carpet. We were thinking of putting wood down, but my kids are still young and we thought carpet would be better for now

[@sultanabasi9105]

hi where buy this are?

[@ryanpeurifoy9121]

How did you calculate the angle for the stair rail going into the Newel?

[@PlatoonGarage]

I did a bit of trial and error on my miter saw using a 2x4

[@briangeraghty7163]

Looks great! Where do you get the top rubber stoppers and bottom plugs kit from? Thanks

[@PlatoonGarage]

the kit to install the balusters was from home depot

[@thomaso.branch8604]

What are they called???

[@nephewsque6751]

Nice job .... question how did you finish your stairs and landing area

[@PlatoonGarage]

I stained the handrail black and installed carpet on the stairs/landing. check out some of my videos showing what i did handrail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqitYXeEgNymbrs walkthrough: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXa8kmZmd8yMirs

[@jamienanni-disalvo8542]

What was the spacing center to center for spindles.

[@PlatoonGarage]

They are spaced 3.5" on center

[@PLEDGE2WS777]

Hey I know its off topic... but what type of watch is that that you're wearing?

[@PlatoonGarage]

It's a G-SHOCK

[@PLEDGE2WS777]

@@PlatoonGarage do you remember the model?

[@PlatoonGarage]

@@PLEDGE2WS777 GA-1100-1A

[@williammoser9101]

Question: how did you get the top baluster shoes to stay so well? They just like hugged the baluster when you slid them up there lol mine need to be super tight with the set screw, and the more I tighten it, the more angled it gets which isn’t good. Great video though! Just curious how you got them to stay so well

[@PlatoonGarage]

Ahh, you have a different style baluster shoe than I do. The style I have uses a small bit of rubber inside that makes it stay in place. No set screw needed

[@williammoser9101]

@@PlatoonGarage no kidding?! Where has this been all along? Haha do you remember where you got them at?

[@PlatoonGarage]

@@williammoser9101 picked them up at home Depot 👍

[@williammoser9101]

@@PlatoonGarage thanks man, appreciate the info!

[@scubaseppy]

Do you have a link for the baluster hardware you used?

[@PlatoonGarage]

They're in the description

[@scubaseppy]

@@PlatoonGarage I didn't see them, thank you.

[@PlatoonGarage]

@@scubaseppy no worries 👍

[@juliotrujillo2683]

Adding some premium wood glue, inside the wood blocks will make it even stronger

[@about2flip]

Wish you would have showed how you laser the lines.

[@PlatoonGarage]

It's not too difficult, just plan out where you want things to line up, take some measurements and then line up the measurements with the laser level and you're good. 👍

[@deesnutz74]

Approximately how much would this cost me for a contractor to do?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Good question, unfortunately I have no idea. You would probably need to contact some carpentry or contracting companies and have them provide a quote

[@edjones8706]

PL premium for newell Tightbond 2 for handrails

[@travissamuda6069]

Hey great videos! I’ll be starting my basement diy soon snd we have a fairly similar layout. Quick question i don’t think was mentioned in the earlier video. How did you determine how far to cut the wall back?

[@PlatoonGarage]

Thanks for watching and good luck with your project. I cut the wall back as far as the floor support extended, there were 4 2x4 supports under the beam, so I left those in place to handle the vertical load. If yours is similar to mine, once you peel back the drywall it will be pretty apparent where you can remove studs, and what you should leave in place

[@travissamuda6069]

@@PlatoonGarage thanks that makes sense

[@jeffreyra1350]

I'm not understanding why you had to notch the bottom of the newel. Doesn't it look better with a full newel.

[@PlatoonGarage]

Depends on the look you are going for, you can do it either way and have a finished look. My upstairs railing has a newel that is notched and I matched it

[@jrusselliii]

I'm disappointed that you didn't show how you connected the railing to the post

[@PlatoonGarage]

Hard to capture everything during the filming, sometimes things get missed. Railing is attached with a single 3" wood screw that had a pre-drilled hole in the rail so as not to crack the wood

[@jrusselliii]

@@PlatoonGarage Thanks for the detail and quick reply.

[@Alphasig336]

Pl premium or PL premium max would have been stronger than those screws in the Newell post blocks

[@mminlamesa1032]

nice workmanshio

[@Valient6]

You really put some force on that post when you were testing the rigidity... Lol you need lags bro. Laaaaaags. 8"

[@PlatoonGarage]

Ha, I'm not putting a car hoist on it, but lag bolts would definitely keep the post more secure than the tapcon screws and 3.5" wood screws

[@Slyder695]

Hey man kudos to you for admitting the mistake as we all have done at some point. You could have never shown that in the vid by redoing

[@PlatoonGarage]

Wanted to leave it in so that others don't make the same mistake 👍

[@evandollinger2815]

Rookie mistake: Always use wood glue. #YouGotSqueaks

[@DrHughWegwerth]

How did you attach the railing to the lower banester?

[@PlatoonGarage]

3" screw