Installing sump pit footing drains & stone in new construction basement for beginners

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Today I installed a sump pit footer drains & trucked in and installed all the stone, stay tuned to see how its done! Hello my name is Mike and I'm the owner operator at TCM & Excavating also known as Dirt Boss please leave a comment and tell me what you think!
#sumppit #skidsteer #footingdrain
Installing sump pit footing drains & stone in new construction basement for beginners
Tri-County Excavating
My Equipment:
KOBELCO SK160-6E
KUBOTA SVL 90-2
KOMATSU D51 PX22
KOMATSU PC88 MR-8
JOHN DEERE 310G
BOMAG 172-2
BOMAG BW900-2
HYDREMA 912
MF 35
BIG TEX 7 TON
DYNAWELD 20 TON
KENWORTH T-800
GMC W4500
RAM 3500
TRI-COUNTY EXCAVATING

[@twolfordjr]

You could make a killin out here in Colorado working in the drainage challenged areas up in the mountains. I'd hire you for every one of my builds because of the standards you set for your work.

[@BBearBuilds]

Can you use corrugated pipe inside the basement ?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes

[@janethouck9763]

Do you ever put a moisture barrier under the stone ? Or. The slab

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes it goes under the slab on top of the stone before the concrete..

[@dalepremo3695]

That was great content. You were hustling and doing it right, too. Oh, and the humor was priceless - especially when you were riding over the bumps with the skid. Thanks much, Dirt Boss!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yeah i still feel the vibration! Thanks Dale

[@stedder8436]

Good video man. Maybe one day my channel will be as big as yours. Keep it up.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Hey it's hard work and just keep pushing content out.. it's just climbing the KZbin ladder everybody wants to get to the top! Thanks

[@blackdogexcavator21]

Looking good brother. Thats a lot of work for a solo day. Keep on keeping on.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yeah i hear ya.. actually my shoulders here ya!

[@blackdogexcavator21]

@@DIRT-BOSS ha! I bet they do. Im getting too old for all that beating and banging anymore. I have to rely on machinery. If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself. Lol.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

@@blackdogexcavator21 lol yeah The machines will do the work.. stay safe bud whole new craziness out there!!!!

[@fanningconstruction2050]

@@blackdogexcavator21 or have gotten machinery sooner. 😁 at the ripe age of 31 I gave up the roofing gig and transitioned in to machinery and trucks... still no one to work. So I find myself shoveling alot. 😆

[@Kevin-wj4ed]

Lose workers are not out there!!!!!!!!

[@RuggedArtistry]

Isn't there supposed to be a drain tile around the outside as well that goes through the footing and ties it all together?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Every house and every site is different it's drawn up different all depends on soil conditions tomorrow's video we will be installing one and it will only be on the outside

[@northjerseykevin3915]

Do people ever wrap that in filter fabric before the stone?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Na no need sometimes fabric causes issues

[@chopshop6446]

Nice channel. I've been binge watching the past few weeks since I found it lol

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks buddy much appreciated!

[@northjerseykevin3915]

The back portion of my house is built into a hill and I’m getting water in my basement/ crawl space. The space has a concrete floor but only 3’ tall. I like to do French drains but being it’s only 3’ tall nobody can work in there. I’ve considered putting footings drains on the outside of the foundation but have trouble finding daylight for the discharge. I’ve considered putting I a pit with a pump but it seems most guys don’t like that idea. What are your thoughts about a pit with a pump?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Sump pit will work

[@northjerseykevin3915]

@@DIRT-BOSS I had a guy come that’s one some of our job come and look at it but he wanted to use perforated pipe from Lowes that’s wrapped in filter fabric but I didn’t like the sound of that. I assume that the fabric could clog relatively quickly. I’d rather use pvc with holes ,gravel and the wrap like a burrito. He said that’s a lot of work. Do you have any experience with the pre wrapped pipe from Lowes or Depot? How far of a run do you think a good Zoeler pump could push water. Only 4or 5 foot lift

[@william81tell]

Maybe I missed it, but no need to pitch the drain pipe to the sump hole?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

No water flows

[@BassPotter46]

Do you suspect a Radon problem from all that rock?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

We vented that pipe out the roof

[@northjerseykevin3915]

Great video. Where you out of?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Northeast New York

[@pablosanchez2428]

Another great video- nice work and that you take pride in what you do, by simply cleaning off the footings and driveway !

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes sir I don't like to make a mess for the next guy!

[@iantheplumber5734]

Nice work,Im a plumber from uganda any job?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks

[@j.c.smithprojects]

who needs 4 men when you have mike on the job?? nicey nicey......on to the next one!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yup! LOL

[@tedohio3038]

Few years your son can help, started working for my parents when I was 6.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

I hope so!

[@djremy3394]

In Wisconsin, the top of the sump crock must be 1" above finished floor so that no sewage could get pumped out with the storm water. Most cities here separate the storm and sanitary sewers so that, when it storms, the sanitation station doesn't get overwhelmed. Also, let's say that your sewer backs up your floor drain. Your method would have raw sewage being pumped out onto your lawn. I'd be curious to know your thoughts on this. Thanks!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

That's city life sewer and water around here we have wells and septic systems That's my thoughts on that this was drawn up by an engineer I just put it together

[@cameronbridges5607]

A shooter truck would make that go way faster LOL

[@cameronbridges5607]

Put the sump pit looks good

[@DIRT-BOSS]

definitely

[@markg.2501]

Mikey Mike......You know when the very first race was between Kenworth Dump Trucks? Oh, About 12 Seconds after the SECOND Kenworth Dump Truck rolled off the line. Your killin it out there My brother........Like a one man band...... Like A one legged man in a shit kickin contest. Your a Beast! Did you say you were lookin for some"Good Guys"......Dude, all the Good Guys are our age. Thanks for the video as usual.... "My People". 👍👌🆗✔🤘🚚

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Mark tell me about it crazy that young strong men don't have it in them it seems! KW 💪🏼

[@markg.2501]

@@DIRT-BOSS dude seriously?....not a word about my Truck joke???? Thats some of my best stuff..LOL

[@DIRT-BOSS]

@@markg.2501 That was the great! Sorry hahaha

[@fillowtree5505]

Dude no “back on-site” intro? One man getting a lot of work done. Great job and content

[@DIRT-BOSS]

LOL nice!

[@jeffjones4006]

I wish contractors knew the difference between plumb and level and use the terms correctly. You sound like you’d be difficult to work for/with. I’m a retired millwright with 45 yrs experience and know plumb and ,evel.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes I agree maybe I misspoke if that's what you're talking about plum is vertical & level is horizontal duh... Lol you just made me rewatch it I said make sure you level it so it's plum yes so the pit is plum straight up and down.. now do you feel better?...🤣🙄😋

[@elmerkilred159]

Why did you not use the black corrugated drain pipe? Is it a cost thing?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Different builders different specs different engineers

[@My6216]

Drain tile on the inside of the house is useless the water comes from the out side and seeps in on the cold joint of wall and footing. If your doing this just lay the same pipe on the outside the hole is open and you have easy axis . Hydrostatic presure?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Sir we only go by the engineered print so thats whats in contract I dont make the drawings!

[@fanningconstruction2050]

Haha Mike when your driving and going uhhhhh..... I can feel my brain rattling too. 😆 these track loaders are like little tanks and if the grade isn't very smooth it makes a very rough ride. 😆 still love my loader though.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Oh yeah

[@sj7601]

This was very informative since I recently moved into my first home with a basement. If my sump pit has two drains connected to it, why does one drain always have water draining through to the pit while the other drain just has some water sitting in it (I never see water flowing through to the pit from this drain)? My sewage pit is right next to the drain that never has water flowing through, are the two connected in case the pump fails? This drain is also directed from the front of my house, which is higher up and by the garage so perhaps there just isn't much ground water? I'm trying to learn how everything works 🙂

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes You must have a high water table and that is groundwater coming into the pit then it gets pumped out The sewer is totally different they do not mix

[@martinedelius]

Good people is always hard to find but with the extremely unfortunate situation with unemployment in the US right now there ought to be some candidates at least?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes I agree

[@teak5476]

Whats the status with big Meek, thought he was back with ya? Cool Video, now your back to your normal self, good to see Bossman!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Meek is hit or miss some days he can't come in..

[@CYUNG467]

You are Da Man! Doing this job solo 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾and looking Great! I’am so Hooked on your videos..Br Safe..✌🏽

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks Craig!

[@ConstructionMachineryChannel]

The video reminded me to change my sump pump backup marine battery.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Good Glad I could help!

[@perekegerd2952]

Good vid, but I'm questioning the purpose with the system. The general consensus is that an exterior french drain is superior to an inside french drain. As this is a new construction, it would be so easy to excavate a bit more outside the foundation and install perforated pipe and gravel. Also, avoid 90's in french drain. It is very hard to scope and clean out in the future.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

I agree there's many different applications.. this is not new construction It is a rehab burnt building we tied into existing and we only are going to do what's engineered on the print. That is what was bidded That is what was budgeted.

[@jimcraig1097]

Enjoyable video I really like the way you work. I've watched all your vids and I just can't understand why your subscriber count hasn't gone up faster than it has. Looking forward to the next one.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks Jim.. my channel can only grow as fast as people watch & subscribe for KZbin to put it out there.. it has been starting to take off more from the last month.. Time will tell!

[@aarongallaty9546]

We are in the Detroit area and they make us do the inside and the outside but we have alot of clay do they make you guys do it that way on all foundations or just where they make you?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

We do outside and inside only when you can put the outside to daylight

[@Jiggz9]

Yesterday my sump pump stopped working and learned that the water from the storm pipes laid out in this video was coming into the basement through the exterior walls. I got the sump pump replaced and the water stopped coming into the house. This is was a pretty interesting video as I am trying to figure out how that leak took place. Thank you.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Glad you got it figured out Thanks for watching

[@scottgoessling]

It looks like you pulled the rebar out it bent it down to get the skid steer in. We’re they bent or removed ?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

We bend them over then bend them back up after

[@Jack-vm1fg]

Did you slope that boss?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

No

[@Jack-vm1fg]

@@DIRT-BOSS dang that dont seem right

[@DIRT-BOSS]

@@Jack-vm1fg water is seeks level it's got automatically 4 in inside the pipe

[@mikelmartinez5015]

When installing the sump pit does it need to have water run off level? or just be level floor.?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Either way will work I put it slightly low than the floor

[@raypowell5268]

Great looking work. Looks like the gravel is not a washed gravel. Drain tile works best with 3/4 washed gravel.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

You're right if I can remember correctly that come from a different plant the old rain water wash! Only plant open on Saturdays

[@skeezle1337]

How come you don't put drain tile on the exterior of the footer?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Each house is designed different because of ground conditions and elevations

[@andrewhillstrom8397]

I don’t know how you only have 5.5k subscribers. Your videos are awesome! Keep the content coming, please.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Share like and subscribe help me grow! Thanks buddy 💪🏼

[@tylerpittmon7936]

Good content man. That old international just doesn’t quite have it anymore haha. She moves the stone though.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes she does!

[@dirtwork]

I do my sumps the same way. Except we usually put out holes on top so it picks the water just below the floor.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes I agree that always could be done afterwards also.. 10 different ways to skin a cat if this site wasn't all gravel they'll never be water in the basement.. we would have done different tactics..

[@LAKESIDEBOB1]

Sounds like you are going to have a good year this year with work, price you got the work at is a different story.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Looks like things are picking up

[@mav5204]

How many inches of stone compress to 4 inch after you whack it

[@DIRT-BOSS]

It only compresses 1/2 inch

[@mav5204]

@@DIRT-BOSS thx

[@mav5204]

What size stone 3/4 I've dug out an area 33 feet by 12 feet in an old basement at the drainage part now using similar setup to what your doing here

[@DIRT-BOSS]

@@mav5204 I use 2" which is a combination of three-quarter ones and twos..

[@mav5204]

@@DIRT-BOSS thx your videos have been really helpful

[@anyetakabogera9549]

Why perforated pipes. I thought the idea is to catch all the water and the sump pump will collect the water then up and out of the basement.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes it's collecting groundwater in the basement bringing it to the sump

[@anyetakabogera9549]

@@DIRT-BOSS thank you👍👍👍

[@brianbaughan5683]

Nice job dirt boss, neat and clean looks very professional, KW is awesome

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks buddy

[@Jamieclarke88]

Awesome job mike looking good the Kenny looks to be going well for you thanks for the video 👍👍👍👍

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks!!!

[@Danmc-li3pg]

Doesn’t that pipe go on the outside of the footing?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Most of the time it goes both inside and outside but this was designed like this.. there was no place to daylight the pipe so but they weren't going to bring water from outside just to pump it back outside.. The whole site was gravel no water issues

[@robertrichard9460]

Nice job! You don’t have put in piping for radon in NY?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes That's going to be scratched in after when he finds out where his closet is

[@daveinch8781]

Does the pit have to be at the lowest corner so water flows downward to it ?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

No sir just put your pipes at the bottom of the footings and then the pit at floor height It will automatically run in the pipe

[@heithdotysadventures7824]

Good gob man . Some times I miss that work . Some times I don't.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Right on

[@roadrash90]

Is that wash stone from the gravel you normally get?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes

[@excavatorguy]

very nice

[@PenguinKnightilia]

was the rock shooter way expensive down there

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yeah I've only seen one in all my ears not even sure if they're still around.

[@sonnyblazer5504]

See, your truck, going uphill & under load, is quicker because of that 'hand-rubbed paint job' - makes it sail smoother through the wind resistance! Capece? Hey, Sump Pit Footing Drains (INSIDE) - How come I never saw them? I got nice footing drains around the OUTSIDE but unaware of inside. Course, I'm not in the business either. Learn something every day they say especially from you. Bet you sleep very well. I mean you really put in a solid day's work and then some. Great job and thanks for taking us! Sonny (CT)

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes in a perfect world there's always footing drains inside and outside.. the inside ones make sure there's no water that can enter and raise up in that floor.. 10 in of stone allows water to get less than 1 in high before it hits the pipe and gone! Outside footing drains always lead to daylight gravity fed if the elevation allows.. this site didn't so we do not want to bring water from outside back inside to a sub pit then pumped out.. Hope that made sense..

[@sonnyblazer5504]

@@DIRT-BOSS With a big 'thank you' and yes it did make sense. Would you have done just the outside one 'IF' you could have? I like this inside one and better still, your words of installing BOTH! Thank you! Sonny (CT)

[@DIRT-BOSS]

@@sonnyblazer5504 no I always do both if I can.

[@ralphgwynn9325]

Always very professional, you are the man!👍

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks bud

[@christopherboucher9271]

I am building a new house and I hit bad soil and had to use 1x3 crushed stone as a base for pretty much the whole basement. I've had 3 sump pumps get absolutely coated in lime/calciuim and in turn, the float wouldn't rise so I had water in my basement multiple times. I asked my neighbor who just built his house a year ago and he has zero issues with lime/calcium buildup on the pump. Is the 1x3 the culprit? How is this getting into my sump pit if peastone was used on top of the interior and exterior drain pipes? Any ideas?

[@memyselfandifarmer]

One man band. Nicely done. Took the case 450 track loader out for a spin, nothing like the smell of fresh dirt!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Totally agree fresh dirt smells awesome!! 💪🏼

[@gimpy8349]

Always liked the smell of wet clay and diesel

[@Boscovius]

Seems like a lot of trouble to save one freakin' wall on an old house. lol. Thanks for the tips.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yup tell me about it

[@ryanglaser5336]

​@@DIRT-BOSSfor tax purposes 🎉🎉🎉

[@vvsiva007]

Good one - however, pipes could have been put inside a fabric - just to filter out the water from the silt

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Sometimes fabric will hurt you and clog it Got to do what engineer specs out to cover your but

[@ryanglaser5336]

​@@DIRT-BOSSanother pro for washed stone

[@elliottkrieter4640]

In your other videos, I noticed the drain pipe is outside the footing. What determines where you put the drain? Great video!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

We always put them in the inside.. the outside ones are only if we can put the drain pipe to daylight... The elevations on the project would not allow us to and there's a swamp behind the house. house.

[@skliros9235]

Yeah in the Midwest we always put the drain outside the footing.

[@jaxturner7288]

What areas do you work in?

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Albany capital district

[@louisianadirt2188]

Love to see that hustling, 😁 Capeesh

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks buddy

[@jesperdahl1486]

There is obviously a reason for what you do, but I am curious as to why you do not use a pressure tight sump, and let the 4" drain tile penetrate to the outside connected to the perimeter drain and vented to air, to release the Radon, with that rocky bottom, that must be a concern ? Keep up the great work

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Sir we are only contracted to do what's on the print that the engineer and architects drew up.. Yes radon is an issue in these parts and we pipe it in and vent it out.

[@jesperdahl1486]

@@DIRT-BOSS That was quick, I get it, doing only what the drawing says, I have to do that myself.

[@jesperdahl1486]

@@DIRT-BOSS That was quick. I get it, do only what the drawing says, I have to do that myself.

[@vinnythemooch4158]

Up in Michigan we put drain tile (pipe) on the outside of the footing with a tee in the middle going thru the footing & teeing into the inside piping. We then discharge th.e sump to about 15 ft from the wall.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Yes I've done them like that also.. but the homeowner did not want to bring the outside water into the house to be pumped out.. the whole site is perfect gravel so there's no water issues anyway.

[@jojocastillo7506]

@@DIRT-BOSS Otherwise, for new builds, do you usually do/recommend both internal and external drains with an internal sump? Great video btw.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

@@jojocastillo7506 usually the engineer draws internal drains only if they could be led out by daylight.. but if it's a high water table and they will put it in a sump and pump it out.

[@terrybergin4921]

Love hard and skillful work - could watch it all day!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks bud!

[@mrandrewdennis1]

Great job

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks Dennis

[@davebrittain9216]

Good video!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks

[@johngaster7020]

Came out nice and clean! Great work

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thank you!

[@arielmatozzo2744]

Nice work

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks

[@nik0la263]

10:42- lmao

[@DIRT-BOSS]

LOL

[@fuddmethen]

nice work!

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks

[@TimBurke-sb4bs]

Per code you must keep the crock must be kept at least 1 inch above the floor. This prevents any backed-up sewage from entering the pit and being discharged outside the house.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Check your local codes

[@crdjeep123]

form a drain that's old school your doing there

[@DIRT-BOSS]

What do you mean form a drain? I think you're saying form a French drain in the concrete.. totally two different jobs this is sight work and you need a footing drain by code.. French drain around the perimeter between the wall and the concrete floor would be done by the person doing the concrete and that is not code it is preference. BUT footing drains are code!!!

[@crdjeep123]

@@DIRT-BOSS this is what people use around here in pa www.formadrainsolutions.com

[@crdjeep123]

its the concrete form that you don't remove, it's plastic with drain holes on the outside, you use cross pipes to connect them into the sump pump.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

@@crdjeep123 nice

[@KiotiTractorNL]

nice clean work

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Thanks Jordan