Installing Tannus inserts on my Himiway Cruiser - Tinkering Turtle

Installing Tannus inserts on my Himiway fat tire bike.
Tannus website:
tannusamerica....
Bike tire lever:
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Himiway website:
himiwaybike.co...
Tinkering Turtle

[@ozzie444]

I just did my Himiway Cruiser with the Tannus liners. Before I installed them I wiped the inside of my tires and the inner tubes with baby powder. Everything went very easily. The baby powder helps everything slide better and seat the tire inside the Tanus liner. Also the bit of baby powder residue where the tire bead is helps the tire align properly when inflating it. I also added 12 oz of multi-purpose FlatOut. There was a test done by Bolton eBikes recently where they tested different liners and liquid tire sealant and the combination of the Tannus liners with the FlatOut was the best.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Sounds great!

[@wezzhunte3440]

Old school techs

[@robpasma567]

Robert from nearby Byron Center. Thanks again for your contribution! I had a flat tire at just 50 miles on the odo and rather than get a $25 tube from Village Bike I decided to order Tannus inserts. QuietKat had them in stock. Had to wait a bit but it was worth it. While following your instructions I found the source of the flat. It was a cm long shard of glass which wouldn't have been a flat had I already had the Tannus. Thanks again and possibly I'll see you on Lake Shore Dr next summer.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Bummer about the flat, hopefully you won’t get another anytime soon. I have 1400 miles on my bike with no flats, and my wife has around 1250 miles with only one flat. (she picked up an 1 1/2” nail...Tannus wouldn’t have stopped it) Be sure to subscribe and I hope to see you out there next summer!

[@kendonlan5880]

Thanks Tim, you were correct. The insert was pulled off the center line, pulled it back, rides good. Did place the insert in the front tire, just because it is easier to remove. Thanks again Ken

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Glad I helped!

[@middlesteven5477]

Awesome job. Great series of instructions for Himiway owners.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Be sure to subscribe for more great content.

[@steve_main]

Insted of checking that line is perfect all the way around a trick is to use soap and water and make the edges soapy so that when you inflate the pressure will allow the bead to find its place

[@TinkeringTurtle]

interesting tip

[@scottsworld21]

Wow great video! Can’t wait to get some of these inserts. I’ll save this video for when I do my install. Thanks!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Your welcome!

[@markryle1]

My tire is Rad Mini rear 20 x 3.3. The insert is for 3.0 - 4.0. I'm having trouble getting the valve stem through the hole in the rim. One of the edges of the Tannus insert seems to be in the way. So I think I'll need to trim the insert down. I watched you video to see how much to cut off and you did answer that in the first couple minutes - 1/4" on both sides. So thanks.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I’m glad I could help!

[@tomgonzales3105]

Another informative video, good job man. They are still sold out but I’m on the notification list. I’m gonna have to roll with Tuffys till they are in stock.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I appreciate it! Some people have had luck purchasing from Quietkat.com. You might check there.

[@johnf3326]

Useful, as the care and maintenance suggests you take them out now and again and have a steamy shower with them to 'revive' the foam, which compresses after a while!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Great tip!

[@ralphs007]

That's a deal breaker for me. Once they're in,they ain't coming out for a shower.🤣

[@johnf3326]

@@ralphs007 Me neither, but if I don't use the bikes for a while I deflate. The inserts have saved me a thorn or two punctures

[@Flowfully]

i felt very confident in California riding with the Tannus insert until i started getting flats again, i had just repaired my tire from a flat friday, rode it home from work once, and today the same tire is flat again and the tire has nothing lodged in it. so its Tannus' make but they dont survive long in southern cali roads/the very very few sidewalks- only status riding it.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Interesting, that is the first I have heard of issues with Tannus.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I wonder if, somehow, the tube got twisted or had a fold in it during installation? That could explain the flats...

[@Flowfully]

@@TinkeringTurtle both times it was done by motorcycle owner's that had mountain bikes and lots of experience installing and have been helping me but are also puzzled why it happens so much, ive had 5 flats in less than a year

[@Flowfully]

there are goathead thorns out here but i researched the inserts and the Tannus are supposed to be made to protect against goathead thorns among many things it protects from

[@TinkeringTurtle]

That is surprising. I don’t have Goatheads around here, but I’ve seen pics...their no joke! We have two bikes with inserts. 1600 miles each, with only one flat between them. (1 1/2” long nail) I hope you get it worked out!

[@777brucekim777]

I had a 4 inchoate tyre bike and they only recommend a max of 20 psi in those tyres and because you have the Tanks insert you can actually have less air than the recommended pressure.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Good tip!

[@goldviper5280]

Nice job. Thanks for the demo.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

your welcome!

[@maxmaxed2887]

So we got both Tannus and Mr. Tuffy installed, got two flats literally next week and week after. Both went right through both liners. Second actually went through the rim itself, now riding with a huge hole in a rim lol. So they don't do crap

[@TinkeringTurtle]

What gave you flats? nail, screw,?

[@maxmaxed2887]

@@TinkeringTurtle first one was large nail. Went right through Tuffy and Tannus. Second one is a huge bolt. Went through both again + through rim itself.

[@maxmaxed2887]

@@TinkeringTurtle www.bikeforums.net/electric-bikes/1234841-himiway-rear-rim-pierced-through.html#post22144671

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Wow, that is crazy. My wife asked, “How does that even happen?” I have to agree with her… Bummer this happened to you.

[@maxmaxed2887]

@@TinkeringTurtle rode on a road, kinda around some construction happening, foundation building going on, that is where second bolt happened. First one when riding along suburban road.

[@pharrohku5922]

Just a tip after tube install just put a wire tie or a twisty tie on the stem to keep it from being pushed back into the tire while inflating

[@TinkeringTurtle]

good tip!

[@pharrohku5922]

@@TinkeringTurtle you can just leave the wire tie n place to keep the stem straight so it does not shift as well.just trim it down. Also how are the inserts working out i was thinking about doing my 3 fatbikes even though i dont have many flats but had one a couple days ago. ended be that i guess my tube was to OLD because i patched it twice and when put back in it blew another hole just an inch from the original hoe on the seam on the inside of the tube not the tread side.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

We have over 2000k miles on each bike, and we have only had one flat. My wife picked up an 1 1/2” nail. No liner would have stopped that… ;)

[@vorletzter2004]

Thanks you for your response.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Any time

[@LEXICOGRAFFER]

Much easier to have a little bit more are in the tube to maintain its shape and install tire, liner and tube together. Let some air out for the second bead.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Thanks for the comment.

[@foxy663]

Thanks for video!!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

My pleasure!

[@__J__A__X__]

Tip for you. Always fit the tube into the tire BEFORE fitting the tire onto the rim. That way you dont struggle threading the valve through the rim nor accidentally twisting the tube inside the tire.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

good tip

[@wellfleetion]

I ordered 26x4 Tannus and just got a call from my bike mechanic that they don't fit. He sent a picture showing a liner easily fitting inside the spoked part of the rim to prove it clearly won't fit into the tire as the tire is way too big. Not sure why. This is a 2022 step-through model. Ugh, it's one thing after another, especially with the flats. These bikes seem more costly and much more of a PITA to maintain than my car!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Sounds like Tannus sent a liner that was too small…? Let us know when you figure out what happened. When you say “2022 step-through model”, is that the standard, zebra, etc?

[@wellfleetion]

@@TinkeringTurtle The Cruiser. I just got the new liners from Tannus delivered today, but had my bike mechanic already instal a flat-out like substance into the tubes so I'll just keep the new ones they sent until these give.

[@russelpieper4349]

UPDATE. I knew I read it somewhere, so I got out my Tannus installation guide and on page 3 under Tips For Installing Tannus Armour it states (It is common for the Amour to compress over time. It still is providing shock absorption and puncture resistance but will perform better when properly maintained. To minimize compression deflate the tires while not use. This allows the Armour compound to rebound to provide ideal performance.) So does that mean when your not riding your bike, your suppose to let the air out of the tires? I'm sorry but that's not happening. I don't know how everyone else feels, but if I would have known that earlier, I would not have purchased the Armours.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

It means once and a while they recommend that you allow the Armour to rebound. I have over 2700+ miles on my bike and have never had an issue. You could consider deflating your tires over winter, other than that I feel your fine. Enjoy your ride!

[@uttaradit2]

good job

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Thanks!

[@alfbaldwin7144]

Great instructional video - thank you

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Your welcome. Glad it was helpful!

[@paulh4866]

Love your very informative videos...new subscriber

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@mrdre9241]

I have use three tire lovers and broken all three tire lovers doing this I need help

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Tire levers? If so, I am not certain how I can help. Mine were a little tough at the end, but as you have seen they worked.

[@Sharonbonds007]

Very helpful. Thank you.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Glad it was helpful, your welcome!

[@maxspruit8370]

This stuff probably does a number on your rolling resistance.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I haven’t noticed any difference.

[@cguymartin]

Can you please tell us which measurements are needed when ordering these for the himiway cruiser?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

26 x 4 tires need 26x4 inserts. You can purchase the smaller tubes that Tannus suggests or the stock tubes will work as well.

[@stringer5385]

I just put the tannus inserts into my 26x4 fat tires. I just can't seems to be able to get the tires even on the rim all the away around. Very frustrating.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Fat tires can be challenging. I put a low pressure in the tube and slowly work around the rim to get it close…

[@TRUMPSUCKSBIGTIME]

1 inch nail went thru my tannus insert boom flat tire on my Himiway and of course it was THE REAR TIRE🙄

[@TinkeringTurtle]

It happens. The one flat we have had with the Tannus inserts was an inch and a half long nail. A foam insert won’t stop that.

[@thomashood3748]

Looks like a lot of work and it will still be possible to get a flat. I plan to try installing liquid Flat Out product that seals any leaks much like Slime. Any reason to avoid Flat Out?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

The drawbacks to slime or flat out would be the potential mess, clogging of the valve stem. And my understanding is that the slimed tube needs to be replaced every two years. That being said I think both products can do very well.

[@Wolf-3.5.9]

Are you going to install these on the Magicycle also? If so, we would like to see a video showing how hard it is to remove the rear wheel for the install. I have heard that that is a issue with the Magicycle.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I likely will add the Tannus inserts in the future. Regardless of that, I plan on doing a rear tire removal video in the near term. If you haven’t already subscribe so you get a notification or it shows up in your feed when I release it.

[@robh063]

Hi Tim, I hope you've been well. Recently, my wife had a flat tire on her Himiway Cruiser. Of course it had to be the back tire! LOL. Anyway, I had installed Tannus Armour liners about 2 years ago but I was surprised when I took the tire off the rim to repair the inner tube, that the liners were now thin. They no longer had that cushion like they did when new. I reached out to Tannus and was told that they will compress and I should air down the tires monthly and put the bike in the sun to help decompress the liners and for better results, to remove the liners and leave them in the hot sun for several hours. I thought that was a strange response. Who is going to do that every month? What are your thoughts on this? I can forward the email response I received if you like. Rob

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I have heard that before. I didn’t realize they wanted you to do it monthly, but I have heard they wanted you to let it relax. I personally don’t. So mine are likely thinned out. I figure they still give some protection, just not as much. I haven’t been purchasing them for new bikes, but I have been re-using them when switching tires. I went to a new type of tire and so far I haven’t had any flats. I think the knobby tires that come with the bike tend to catch debris and sets it up for a puncture. My new tires don’t seem to catch the debris the same way. They just roll over them. They do feel a little different while riding … more grippy. But once you’re used to it, it is really nice. I show them in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoDciJebitlqqtU

[@robh063]

@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks for the reply Tim. I agree that there is some protection there but not much anymore. We have over 1,000 miles on the tires so maybe it's time to get different ones. I'll watch the video you linked!

[@LunkerLou30]

Hi tinkering turtle man ! Nice videos you are doing. I got a magicycle and have 20 miles and my first flat. Bummer. I'm new to this. I'm old school repairs from years ago. Should I get some liners now ?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Since we put in these liners almost 3000 miles ago (on two bikes…almost 3000 miles each) we have only had one flat. It was an inch and a half long nail…liners won’t stop that. I think they work really well on shorter objects and debris on the path. I am happy with them. I also considered “Flat Out” but I never went and put it in, but that is also an option. Many people swear by it.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Oh, and I should also mention that you will NOT be able to “ride flat” as Tannus claims with a fat tire bike. It may work with smaller tires, but the fat tires pop off the bead. Hope this helps!

[@maxmaxed2887]

I have Mr.Tuffy and I wonder if I need these instead. Tuffy still got flat with a nail

[@TinkeringTurtle]

That’s a tough question. I haven’t used Tuffy, so I don’t know if I’m the best judge. Check out citizencycle on KZbin. He did a comparison video on these two options.

[@vorletzter2004]

The dimensions are the same,but the hose is wrinkled too much

[@TinkeringTurtle]

“hose”? Are we talking about the same thing? As you can see in my video the insert was not wrinkled. If yours is wrinkled, I would strongly recommend taking a pic and speaking with Tannus support.

[@jonbenetunveiled]

Excellent video!!!! I noticed the Himiway spare inner tubes are out of stock on Himiway's website, can you suggest any other brand inner tube that will work with the Himiway Cruiser? Thanks!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Absolutely! I have used these in my tires. They have worked well for me! amzn.to/31VG2AG

[@jrlawes1838]

Could you please recommend a good 26x4 tire that's thicker and stronger than the original ones that come on the himiway Cruiser?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I’m sorry, I am don’t have much expertise in this area. You might want to look for an article that explains e-bike fat tires.

[@Mike-tc2rl]

Thanks Tim! Would it be significantly easier to install these while initially putting a new bike together vs. later? Wondering if I should buy these while waiting for our new bikes, so we can install them while building the bike, it if it isn't that much more difficult to add them later. 😉

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I don’t think it is any easier/harder installing these initially vs later. You are fine waiting. Plus, I understand Tannus is sold out of the 26”x 4” size again anyway.

[@Mike-tc2rl]

Thanks, that's good info! 🙂

[@greatguildersleeve8861]

@@TinkeringTurtle Think that may br due to influx of Himiway? ;)

[@TinkeringTurtle]

@Great Guildersleeve Could be.

[@robpasma567]

I'd definitely order them ahead. I just left a message above that I had a flat at just 50 mile. Simply a small shard of glass. QuietKat had them in stock. We needed 4 so I also ordered Co2 inflator and cartridges to get the price above $250 for free shipping.

[@enquezproductions]

I feel like taking off the back tire would be a pain in the ass.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

It’s not too bad. Check out the videos I did on removing the back tire. And make sure to also watch the addendum video. It has a pro tip to make it easier.

[@Casenundra]

What is the life cycle of tannus liner ?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I don’t know. That would be a good question for Tannus support.

[@gilgonzalez723]

Where did you get them? they're sold out everywhere. Good for you, man!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Hey Gil, I purchased them from the Tannus website...before they ran out. Keep looking they will come back in to stock eventually. Be sure to subscribe so you can catch my future content!

[@gilgonzalez723]

@@TinkeringTurtle I just subscribed, cheers!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Thanks!

[@joemag6032]

After installing the Tannus liner the available space for the inflated tube is significantly smaller than before, right? Does this mean that the inflated tube will have wrinkles in it ?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

If you use the Tannus recommended tubes I would think you would be fine. If you use the oem 26”x4” tubes take extra time to make sure there are no kinks or wrinkles before inflation. Once you inflate, the tube compresses the foam and should allow the tube to not have kinks. I have been running the oem tubes almost 2 years without issues. I hope this helps!

[@joemag6032]

@@TinkeringTurtle thank you for your reply.

[@rogereich5444]

Forgot to ask...Will all those great mods to the Himi cruiser work on the Magicycle? Need to have an upright riding position, thumb throttle, and so on. You did a great job showing what to purchase and how to modify things. Also, can you set all those settings that you did on your Himi....like levels of peddle assist, percentage of power so take off is not so abrupt, and so on? Thanks again, Roger

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I am 95% sure all the sizes and connectors are cross compatible. You should, for due diligence, double check sizes and connectors to verify they look the same.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

The controller programming for settings will be similar, but will require different key strokes to get there.

[@lemix69]

Good job, very informative. 🖖😎

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Glad it was helpful!

[@bazzrik5426]

Very instructive, but I was wondering if you noticed any difference in the ride or feel since installing the inserts?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I haven’t. I do run the tire pressure fairly high at 25psi, so that may be part of it. but they are just fine.

[@emaguigad]

How's the ride and performance on the Tannus while riding on them? Any difference? And....any flats since your install?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I don’t notice any difference in the ride with the Tannus liners installed. I have had one flat between the three bikes I have them installed on with about 8000 miles combined. It was an inch and a half long nail in front of a construction company. The “ride-flat” claim did not work with the fat tire bike. It popped the bead and there was no way to ride it flat. I hope this helps!

[@davoncci]

Nice guide.. I have a 20 x 4.25 Inch tire.. which size would you recommended? Can you install Tannus on just the rear tire?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I don’t see why not. It should work fine.

[@davoncci]

@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks for your reply. I have a 20 x 4.25 Inch tire. Which size would you recommend? Have you had any flats since?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

20”x4.1”-4.8” and I would probably use the stock tubes. We have had one flat between our two bikes in the 1500 miles we have had the inserts. It was an inch and a half long nail.

[@davoncci]

@@TinkeringTurtle Thank you. I actually ordered new tubes from them. My tubes are damaged already

[@steeba1]

@@davoncci ...i just put mine in 2 days ago (20x4.0")...wouldn't use 20x4.0" tubes...will be kinda crammed in there and mite pinch...i used 20x2.75-3.00" (Tannus suggestion) and they slip rite in and inflate perfectly...and, u can knock off PSI down to around 10-12lbs and still get a great, firm ride...TANNUS ROCKS !

[@rogereich5444]

I am in the market. Trying to decide. I am a large man...400 lbs. Himiway told me I can ride their cruiser line with no issues. I am 6'2" and big. Himiway or Magicycle? There is a new Zebra that looks interesting at $1,899.00. Have watched your videos with great interest...you are great. Would appreciate your input. I probably would buy and install all of those add-ons you put on your cruiser. Please offer me your ideas ... I fear that I may be too heavy for the Magicycle, but it looks like the same framing mateial is used. Thanks in advance. Roger

[@TinkeringTurtle]

The part that is most likely to fail at your weight would be the motor. I don’t have enough miles on the Magicycle to have faith in that motor for you yet. Don’t get me wrong Magicycle makes a great bike and it may work out fine…I just haven’t got the same amount of miles on it yet. I think if I were going to steer you into a bike it would be the Himiway Zebra. It has an upgraded motor and a larger battery, which comes in very handy for us bigger guys. Just remember to try not to put all the pressure on the motor while riding, pedaling helps reduce heat buildup in the motor. Good luck, let me know what you pick!

[@rogereich5444]

I have a Zebra in my shopping cart. Info reads as if was built for me!! Ships during mid to late April. Thanks, Roger

[@maxmaxed2887]

Are they actually any good? Reviews are very mixed, ppl get flats with thrm

[@TinkeringTurtle]

My wife and I have a combined mileage of about 3300 miles on our bikes. We have had one flat (with Tannus installed, 1 1/2” long nail) in all those miles. Neither Tannus or Tuffy will stop all flats. Nails and screws can and will cause problems. Yes, I think they are a good product. Perfect, no. But a good product nonetheless.

[@maxmaxed2887]

@@TinkeringTurtle in your opinion, do you think it is realistic to have both MrTuffy and Tannus installed at the same time? Is there room for that?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

It adds a lot of weight to your wheel increasing the rolling resistance and adding load on your motor. And I am not sure that doubling it up would increase your protection proportionally.

[@NuMuzikZYX]

Max Maxed not sure if schwalbe carries your size but I'm usuing marathon plus tires which have good puncture protection the tire themselves and I use tannus so it kinda is double protection

[@jameschang4341]

Very very detail thank you　, and by the way ,how’s the 4 inch tubes working?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Your welcome! I haven’t had any issues with the stock tubes at all.

[@snip_king428]

I obviously did mine wrong the smaller tube they sold me blew out.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Bummer, I used the tube that came with the bike.

[@snip_king428]

@@TinkeringTurtle That's what gonna do

[@snip_king428]

@@TinkeringTurtle Worked!!

[@goproracertv]

Is there only one tannus 4in liner size I see they advertise a 4-4.6 liner size

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Yes the 4-4.6” liner size is a single liner that fits that tire size range. It fits 4” tires all the way up to 4.6” tires.

[@goproracertv]

@@TinkeringTurtle thanks and keep up the video production

[@goproracertv]

@@TinkeringTurtle sorry and does the standard 4in tyre tube still fit? or do you have to buy a tannus tube

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Yes, I talk about this in the video. I spoke with Tannus support and they told me that the tube that comes with the bike will work with the fat tire liners.

[@vorletzter2004]

What size hose do i need ???

[@TinkeringTurtle]

It depends on what bike/tire size you have…? For the Himiway cruiser and stepthru we have, both use a 26”x4” tire…so the Tannus insert size you would purchase is 26”x4.0”-4.8”. I hope this helps!

[@Lqviolin2]

Have you ever used flat-out tire sealant? My Himiway Escape is shipping to me and am wondering if it might be a good idea to put something like that in immediately.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Hi Wendy, I chose not to use a tire sealant. Mostly because, from what I have read, you need to replace the tubes every couple of years as the sealant (slime) will harden over time. As you can see from the video I chose to use the Tannus inserts. So far, between two bikes, we have only had one flat. (1 1/2” long nail) Over 2500 miles on each bike… I figure, if I feel the need to add sealant in the future, I can. But for now I am happy with the inserts. Thanks for the question!

[@bsmirz]

Flat-Out is a great product it will stay liquid for 10 years !! A lot less hassle !!! 🤣

[@cotilynn]

I didn’t really see the liner sticking out the other side. You just dealt with the majority of the tannus liner on one side then? I’ve just had 2 flats within 3 weeks and I’m over it lol

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Not completely sure what your asking. You put the liner in the tire while it’s off the rim, then slide the first side of the tire/bead over the rim along with the first side of the insert. Then put in the tube and put the valve stem in. Followed by the second side of the insert and finally the second bead of the tire.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

You can also add slime for extra protection.

[@aymankamel3743]

Where is this liner from and how much is it for my bike Please help me

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Link is in the description. Price was around $100 give or take.

[@CraigForbes1]

Did you go down in tube size as they suggested, or can we use the same tube that comes in the tire? What do you recommend? I may add this to a Juiced HyperScorpion.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

No, I spoke with Tannus support and they indicated that the stock tubes would work fine. So I used the stock 26”x4” tube on our bikes. I think this has to do with the tires being fat. I have almost 1600 miles on them with no issues. I hope this helps!

[@NuMuzikZYX]

Tinkering Turtle what do you mean by "stock" ? So are you saying we can use the same tubes as we used originally?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

When I say “stock”, I am referring to the tubes that came originally with the bike. The 26” x 4” tubes.

[@johnherring597]

Looks like you used the existing tube. Did you get a chance to put many miles on since then? Everything okay with it, or would you use a different tube if you did it again?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I have put on an additional (approximate) 1200 miles since installing the inserts. No issues at all. The stock tubes work perfectly. I verified their use with Tannus support prior to using them. They told me that both sizes work with the fat tire inserts. Hope this helps!

[@johnherring597]

@@TinkeringTurtle Thank you, I will order without tubes. Happy new year!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Your welcome.

[@enquezproductions]

The $50 coupon is expired. Can you get a new one so you can get credit for the sale?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Done, thanks for the “heads up” and the support!

[@FC2ESWS]

Can you use these with slime or another sealant for double protection?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Absolutely. Although Flat Out is a superior product over slime.

[@FC2ESWS]

@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks I'll check that out

[@FC2ESWS]

@@TinkeringTurtle How many ounces of Flatout did you use for a 26x4? I've heard 16oz but that seems like alot (compared to 8 oz Slime).

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I believe it is 16oz. But unlike slime, flat out lasts 10 years , I think. With slime you have to replace the tubes every two years. www.flatouttire.com/

[@FC2ESWS]

@@TinkeringTurtle Yeah cool. I had been using Tuffy Liners and Slime which worked out well. But then I got a new Ebike for off-road and Tannus had a 60% sale so I grabbed a set. Hoping for no flats! Thanks for the install video and responses.

[@robh063]

Do all Himiway Cruisers come with innertubes in the Kenda tires or did you add the tubes first and then the inserts?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

The Himiway bikes come with tubes. You can down size the tubes per Tannus’s recommendations or just use the original stock tubes. Both work with the armour inserts.

[@robh063]

@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks for the reply!

[@davidrosa3182]

The website says you need a slightly smaller tube for this. Has there been an issue with your tires since this install? All good?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

When I spoke with the Tannus support team, they said you can use either the smaller tubes or the stock tubes that came with the bike for fat tires. I haven’t had any issues with the stock tubes in over 2000 miles. All Good!

[@davidrosa3182]

@@TinkeringTurtle lovely! Thanks for the super fast response

[@greatguildersleeve8861]

Were you experiencing flats often that made you install Tannus?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

No, I put these in shortly after receiving my bike as a preventative measure to getting flats. Although I have read about others struggling with multiple flats I a short period. My wife did get a flat after installing these. She picked up an 1 1/2” long nail. It is unlikely that any liner would have stopped the nail.

[@jameschang4341]

👍

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Glad you liked it!

[@SMG-lz1zq]

I think you didn't have to take the whole tire of the rim to put the Tannus Armour in. You can just shove it in with one bead off.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

good tip. I just thought it was easier to have them separate. That last/first bead isn’t that hard to get off/on.

[@dad7720]

Great video, how good are these things at running flat on a tarmac road?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Not good at all on a fat tire. We have had one flat since installing (1600 miles on each of our bikes) and the insert did not work at all for running flat. It popped off the bead immediately.

[@mikek2879]

@@TinkeringTurtle That sucks because I bought these and smaller tubes ($143 total) to have run flat technology. Company claims the world to sell a product. Sounds like a waste of money. BS

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Well it may work for regular bike tires, but the fat tires (in my limited experience) pop right off the bead when they go flat. I chose the inserts because I didn’t want sharp debris on the bike paths constantly giving me flats. So far that has worked very well, even though the run flat technology really didn’t happen.

[@mikek2879]

@@TinkeringTurtle Thx for the response. Subscribed. I've been running Mr Tuffy liners ($50) for years with no issues. Got another fatbike and thought I'd try the latest and greatest flat prevention. The 'run flat' was the main selling feature. All I can do now is install them and purchase another undersized tube to carry. A quite costly project. Will keep you updated. What fat tire and size did you experience the 'off beading" on? I'm running Maxxix Minion 4.8" tires.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

@Mike K, I thought I would mention that I spoke with Tannus support when I installed my inserts. They told me that you don’t have to use the smaller tubes for fat tires. The stock size tube works just fine. Just an FYI. I am running a Kenda 26” x 4” fat tire on my Himiway.

[@erikkalifornia5182]

You're not supposed to fully remove the tire from the rim when installing these..

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I have done it both ways, and your right you don’t need to fully remove the tire to install these.

[@erikkalifornia5182]

@@TinkeringTurtle which way do you find easier?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

@Erik Kalifornia I would have to say they not removing the second bead from the rim makes it easier.

[@wade5544]

What size Tannus insert and tube for your Himiway?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

For our Himiway cruiser and step thru, we purchased 26” x 4.0-4.8 armour inserts. You can purchase the tubes from Tannus, which are smaller then your stock tubes. But these smaller tubes are not required. I personally spoke with Tannus support and they told me that the stock tubes that come with your bike work just fine. That is what I used. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any further questions.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Here is the link, although they are currently sold out. tannusamerica.com/collections/mountain/products/armour-tube-bundle?variant=31860526022767

[@wade5544]

Sorry for all the questions, but what size shim for you seatpost model? Thanks!!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

I purchased the Suntour NCX suspension seat post with the 27.2mm post. amzn.to/34s8Sa7 And brought it up to 30.4mm with the Cane creek 27.2-30.4mm shim. amzn.to/2IXB3W4

[@TinkeringTurtle]

The post on my suspension seat post is 27.2mm. The tube on the bike is 30.4mm. You need the 27.2mm-30.4mm shim to fill the space.

[@kendonlan5880]

Good morning Tim. I finally received my Himiway stepthru , and installed the tannus inserts. Have you heard anything about soft or hard parts in the inserts. Front tire rides fine but the back has a drop or soft spot of about 2 inches per rev. Feels like the rear tire is going over a 2x4 once per rev. pulled tire apart 4 times now, cannot see or feel an issue. Thanks for the great videos and info. Ken

[@kendonlan5880]

@@HornshawWoodWorks Thanks Tim. Have already reached out to them, Will let you know how it works out. It isn't a wobble. the tire actually has a depression in one area. Not there with tube only. Ken

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Did this get resolved?

[@kendonlan5880]

@@TinkeringTurtle My issue. installed off center. you were correct good job. did put that tire on the front. Old men learn slow. thanks again, Ken

[@richardm893]

Which inserts did you buy on the website?

[@TinkeringTurtle]

26” x 4.0-4.8” schrader

[@richardm893]

@@TinkeringTurtle They're sold out of course!

[@TinkeringTurtle]

figures… check back often!

[@richardm893]

@@TinkeringTurtle Im going to see if I can make it on some green slime for a while so I dont have to take that rear tire off more than necessary.

[@jayhernandez6812]

So if i don't wanna change the tires or tube or liner just tannus armour is okay right? Also radrover 5 tire size is 26x4 and i don't need to trim the tannur armour to fit right?

[@dhyogofotografia]

@@HornshawWoodWorks Thanks for the answer.. im buying the original just in case it goes flat! I almost buy the one is 3 inches! Thanks Tim! :)

[@dhyogofotografia]

@Bodfishblues Yeah 4 inches on amazon.com my friend! works pretty fine ok?

[@dhyogofotografia]

@Bodfishblues mine is 26x4"

[@TinkeringTurtle]

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[@geckocanyon]

I can’t find the liner only for sale. Just the liner + the tube option at $45.00 each. Says its for 26X 4.0 - 4.8 tire size. Is this correct or can you just buy the liner?

[@mr.benitez5846]

Those make the bike heavier.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Anything you add to the bike makes it heavier. These are excellent for deterring tire punctures so their worth it. And with an Ebike pedaling is basically the same.

[@ropeyprune4216]

These things are a nightmare to install on a small wheel.

[@TinkeringTurtle]

What size wheel did you install it on?

[@ropeyprune4216]

26 x1.95

[@NuMuzikZYX]

Tinkering Turtle I'm installing them on a 700x38C tire but the inserts just reach the tire bead it doesn't overlap. Shouldn't the insert overlap the bead?

[@RLowVaughn1]

Tannus liners suck

[@TinkeringTurtle]

Hasn’t been my experience, but...ok.