Installing Tongue and Groove Ceiling on Covered Porch in Cleveland TN

[@juangiraud6013]

Nicely done - my next project this summer.

[@MattFreytag]

Thanks bro. It turned out nice!

[@erlpen2016]

awesome job ...i like the color of the stain and the knots that show...good job and appreciate your posting...

[@gusk2635]

Great work. Very well made.

[@MattFreytag]

Gus K Thanks for the complement!

[@villeloko]

Beautiful!

[@MattFreytag]

Oavp Thank You!

[@jessydraves]

Gotta sand it with a brown paper bag.. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@andyramz1705]

Good job

[@MattFreytag]

Thanks a bunch.

[@onebad36ford]

I’m wanting a light gray white wash over a medium brown T&G pine ceiling. Should I wipe the medium brown? Do I need a stain prep first?

[@MattFreytag]

I really don’t know how to do that process sorry. Thanks for watching.

[@luischavez730]

Quick question if the porch sealing is covered with plywood do I still need to nail the shiplap to the 2x4. Or can I just nail it to plywood

[@MattFreytag]

I would still recommend nailing into the ceiling joists if at all possible.

[@jalacaha]

How did you attach the trim boards until the T and G. Is that hardy plank siding?

[@MattFreytag]

I don’t think I am understanding your question! The siding on house is LP smartside the soffit is hardie the porch beams are wrapped in 1/4” hardie soffit and the 1 x 4 and other trim is mirtec

[@Alphasig336]

Custom color looks like Minwax Special Walnut stain. You can use a compact router with flush trim bit to cut out those can lights

[@MattFreytag]

@@Alphasig336 I believe I had the color mixed to match my mahogany front door. Im not a fan of min wax products. I bet router would work good but id probably mess it up. If you mean cut it out like you would sheetrock. There is no way i could install the T and G then cut them out.

[@conkyjoe]

My patio cedar ceiling is rough finish. What do you recommend to oil it and how to apply it?

[@MattFreytag]

You could definitely use the same products as what I did but I would think the rough cedar may take the stain more darker than the wood in my video since it’s rough. May not show the grain the same. I have seen people use linseed oil but I would do a little research on that because I have never used it. Thanks for watching hope this helps a little.

[@ThisTall]

That looks great. I’m about to do 300sq ft of Meranti T&G soffit like this. I’m curious if you had to leave any gap around the perimeter for expansion if you weren’t covering it with crown?

[@MattFreytag]

I really not sure how it act s out side. I’m sure it does move a little from season to season

[@daltonarnett4831]

What is the best thing to use to sand with after you get your coat of polyurethane to get the smooth feel?

[@MattFreytag]

I don't sand the tongue and groove at all since you don't ever touch it. it has a good looking finish how it is. If I were to sand it I would use my surfprep air sander with a medium grit pad!

[@leadchange415]

Great video… we’re about to do the same thing but curious why water born versus oil clear?

[@MattFreytag]

Paint store recommend me try it and it’s ease of use. Easy cleanup, less toxic fumes, quick to dry and re-coat. It has held up well and looks the same now as when I applied it.

[@leadchange415]

@@MattFreytag our PPG store is recommending oil based so was curious.

[@MattFreytag]

@@leadchange415 I guess it’s just matter of opinion since I use the PPG store as well. Lol. I also used the same Deft Waterborne Clear for my interior stair treads, hand rails, mahogany front door, and front and back porch posts which are white pine.

[@shantor100]

I think it called synergy brand. Already finished and can butt it tight against wall. The butt ends can float past the joist too

[@MattFreytag]

Not sure what your talking about. Thanks for watching

[@phildoleebowitz5335]

How are your boards so straight? We just got our delivery and its so warped and bowed. Only 11% mousture

[@MattFreytag]

I really don’t know. I just have a good reliable supplier that has good quality. This was a few years back also. Maybe things have changed.

[@ranigill2921]

Hey Matt, did you coat both sides of the pine planks before installing on the ceiling?

[@MattFreytag]

Rani Gill Great Question! I did not coat both side nor did I stain both sides. I did stain the edges in the case of expansion and contraction so you wouldn’t see raw wood. I considered sealing both sides and the ends after cutting to length to minimize moisture absorption but did not. Thanks for the comment and for watching my video! I hope this helps.

[@ranigill2921]

Matt Freytag thanks so much yes it really helps. Your ceiling looks amazing. We are doing something similar to our new custom build and we’re just about ready to do the ceiling. Your video was a huge help. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@jesuscristo400]

Hey buddy Great job I like to ask you how can you install a plank celling boards on a second floor porch that have a regular decking boards; I thing water will go thru. What do you recommend

[@MattFreytag]

Edgar Morales Thanks! You would have to install some kind of deck gutter or drainage system. Look them up you will find something that would work. I have never seen one in person or installed one but have heard of other builders have success with them. Thanks for the comment and view.

[@ralphhenderson6086]

Looks great, but I didn’t learn anything much

[@matthewfunk5643]

I’m debating using some sort of exterior deck stain vs what you did, which is more of an interior finish because mine too is under a ceiling outdoors, but not directly exposed to sun. Do you think the finish will hold up through humidity changes of the outdoors?

[@MattFreytag]

Matthew Funk I’m sure it would hold up if you are using an exterior product! The stain I used was interior but the water base poly was an exterior or interior product. I did not seal all sides so the moisture could still enter or exit the wood I used causing expansion and contraction but I would be willing to bet no one would ever be able to see it

[@lizmiles3139]

@@MattFreytag What is the benefit to not sealing all sides to allow for expansion/contraction?

[@zaynemcmahan]

The Classic American and the Jacobean stain..Did you mix them together to get your custom mix?

[@MattFreytag]

Zayne Mcmahan No actually the PPG store custom matched it to my door. They used the Deft Fast Dry Stain (Interior) oil-based Classic American (DFT572) base color and added stuff from their. I will get you the formula

[@zaynemcmahan]

Matt Freytag i appreciate if you could do that. Thanks

[@garydavis9427]

Big fan love your work is there any way you can send me the color code 🙏🏽

[@IbelieveinJesusAmen]

@@MattFreytag That looks GREAT. THANKS. Did you get the formula yesterday?

[@kmdd654]

Love that was your one groove roof or smooth b4 stained

[@MattFreytag]

It was pretty smooth. I did not sand them since they were on the ceiling and you couldn't touch them.

[@KelsiShelton]

Is a tyvek vapor barrier not necessary?

[@MattFreytag]

For where? Not sure i understand the full question! Behind the T&G ceiling?

[@KelsiShelton]

Yeah between ceiling joists and t&g. I’m about to do this on my back porch and am curious.

[@MattFreytag]

@@KelsiShelton no its not required per code in TN. Only required on walls of living space. Even if you did put tyvek on there you would still have moisture and air intrusion through the soffit vents.

[@christravis7011]

Did you use 1x4 over the joist on 24" centers

[@MattFreytag]

Yes 1x4 but 16” centers

[@christravis7011]

Thanks

[@onebad36ford]

How did you apply the stain? Did you wipe it?

[@MattFreytag]

I used a small roller and rolled it on for quickness and wiped it off with a rag. So yes I wiped it. Thanks for watching and for the comment.

[@stang92504]

Where did you find square edge tinge and groove pine? It looks amazing!

[@MattFreytag]

Cool thanks! I bought it at a local building material place called Interior Trim and Supply. It is just your basic Tongue and Groove. It is beaded on one side and plain on the side I used. The edge is actually not squared but has a chamfered edge.

[@protectork9831]

Lumber yard delivered half my wood in 1x6 and other half in 1x8 .

[@MattFreytag]

Dang that’s crazy. Once you put it together can you tell the difference

[@MattFreytag]

You could always alternate 1x6,1x8,1x6,etc….

[@snakeeyes1649]

Did you face nail the boards or blind nailed?

[@MattFreytag]

I only face nailed the starting piece and the ending piece which will be covered with crown mold. I blind nailed them through the tongue like you would hardwood flooring with a 16 gauge finish nailer. Thanks for the comment and view. 🤙

[@TheKeyboardGuy-f3c]

How long are they?

[@MattFreytag]

I used 12' long boards and ran them out from the house so there are no seams. Thanks for the comment!~

[@TheKeyboardGuy-f3c]

@@MattFreytag Gotcha, perfect. Excellent work man. Keep it up. 👍

[@MattFreytag]

Thanks!

[@duartepaintinghandymanservices]

those tongue and groove ceilings came out beautiful but I'm sorry the rest of the decor and color of the house isn't in harmony with the stained ceilings

[@MattFreytag]

Duarte Handyman Services LLC. Duarte You know what they say about opinions!

[@duartepaintinghandymanservices]

Matt Freytag 😂👍

[@markster55555]

What would i need to get that same look, what kind of stain? Love that t&g!

[@MattFreytag]

Marky mark Thanks! I used a deft interior oil base stain that was color matched to my mahogany front entry door. I top coated that with 3 coats of Deft water base polycrylic. These products were purchased at my local PPG paint store!

[@kevinkramer4182]

Any chance you could post the stain formula you used? Love how the color turned out! You didn’t use any prestain conditioner? Just rolled on and sealed with a couple coats of poly?

[@MattFreytag]

I honestly don't have the stain formula any more. No prestain just the stain showed in the video and 2 coats of polycrylic water based clear in satin finish

[@pixmaspider]

Where is the installation showing...

[@MattFreytag]

Sorry it not really a how to video but just portion of what I did.

[@swissstays3899]

Love the look and I am getting ready to do the same on my porch. Did you use a wood conditioner on the pine before staining?

[@MattFreytag]

Thanks! No I did not. I just used the Deft interior oil based stain and used the satin Deft water based polyurethane. We did not even sand the boards first since they were on the ceiling. I did have the stain custom matched to my front door!

[@MELOMEOUT]

Too much talking, all we know, he hired a bunch of Mexicans, can lights🤣🤣🤣, you mean pot lights

[@MattFreytag]

No I meant what I said. Can lights! We don’t grow pot on the back porch.