Installing Upper Side Metal Skin

[@mobiltec]

So sorry for the multiple uploads. I kept getting copyright claims on this video. It should be ok now.

[@virgilnix6896]

I’m six years late but I was trying to find out about cutting out the penetration after and all I could find is folks doing templates. Thank-you Virgil

[@LongWalkerActual]

I had the same thought, but Larry has told & shown us that original builds were quick & dirty. This rebuild is dang near perfect comparatively.

[@georgesgambellone1483]

I have found your tips very helpful, so here is how I was able to raise the sheet metal by myself. I modified my engine lift ( cherry picker ) by extending the boom with a 2x4 so that it could reach above the roof of my trailer. Then I drilled a hole in the long 2x4 midway then put a rope through the hole before screwing the metal to the 2x4. Then attached the rope to the boom and up she went. Was able to get it just right where it needed to be.

[@mobiltec]

OH how fun! Good job. If you have any photos please send them to [e-mail]

[@beentheredoneization]

Love the end outtake guys. I too learn from my mistakes and still making a few with 70 on my horizon. Still I'll bet the three of us never built a boat in his basement like that guy back in the 60's did. lol

[@wilkiepup1]

Larry, you guys cracked me up but you persevered and it looks just great!! I just love the interior also. So light and cheerful! You will really shine in your new digs!!

[@mobiltec]

Educational videos can tend to be a little boring. May as well share some of the funny stuff too. Glad you got a kick out of it.

[@wadesmith7041]

Bill you should move to Nevada it would give you something to do more than just flying pretty ingenious Lyft system guys👍

[@bigairbailey22]

Happy for you and your new place! Can't wait to see it in full operation.

[@rossse02]

When you are use to making mistakes it's great fun to watch someone else making theirs. Your last scene had me laughing uncontrollably. Thank you Larry. PS: Bill needs some new Nevada air under his wings. It will keep him young.

[@mobiltec]

I'm with you. I've been telling him the flying is great up there. Slide Mountain is a wonderful place to fly and he hasn't flown there yet. I've done it many times and when you get up high you are looking down on Lake Tahoe. It's beautiful..

[@campfire52]

Larry, you just need to tell Bill that he has to move up there with you because I am voting for him to do so. You are a team and teams need to stay together. One is none and two is one. Thanks for sharing your videos with us my friend. Take care Buddy.

[@mobiltec]

I told him that. He's not listening LOL>...

[@rudrapawo4736]

nice dissident piano at the end of this video, when yall were moving that panel music is perfect match and reminded me of the first year of my sheet rock apprentice ship with Craig.

[@mobiltec]

LOL That was quite a day. I tried to use the Benny Hill Theme for that clip but I got a copy right hit on it. I was a sheet rock hanger for 10 years. Fun but it was tough work for sure.

[@rudrapawo4736]

really, i ended up working with Craig for 24 years hangin and taping Gypsum. - This literally just crossed my mind, i wonder if there is a cost effective way to spray a vapor barrier on the insides of the metal panels. You see i live in sub-tropical South Carolina, mold happens fast here and i have become almost neurotic about how air with moisture in it flows. Even a minuet gap between plastic sheeting and metal can create a place to grow some microbes.

[@mobiltec]

I don't know. But see here is the deal with moisture being created on the inside of the metal. It needs to cool off for moisture in the air to condense. If the air is just moist as in high humidity, no water will be created on the other side of the metal unless it cools off suddenly. And I mean a great deal. Not just a few degrees. I've tested this. So I would just go with the regular plastic sheeting such as Tyvec or the Roberts Unison that I show in my videos. I've done my own taping but I worked tracks for a long time and we had tapers that came in behind us. Then the spray guys came in.

[@icantintyou]

that is one slick side. excellent job! love these videos larry

[@mobiltec]

Thanks Tommy...

[@Nojack71]

Should you put a rubber gromet in the hole of the tin so the wires don't get chewed up from vibration? Looking forward to you being in you new shop.

[@mobiltec]

Yes a rubber grommet is a great idea. I've been doing something like that in the past but I like the grommet idea.

[@bear4532]

Did I miss something Larry, like a vapor barrier? Love the antics at the end . Hilarious!! Bill has to go with you because I haven't gotten my Billroy Shirt yet! Looking forward to the new shop!

[@mobiltec]

I didn't use a vapor barrier on the sides Bear. This trailer and most others actually came with no side wall vapor barriers. I've never put the vapor barrier in the side walls of any of my trailers before. I know a lot of people think they are necessary but they really aren't. They are mostly needed for the top, and on canned hams the top includes the front and rear walls. This trailer actually needs no barrier on the front or rear either but it will have them.

[@bear4532]

Learn something new every day!

[@mobiltec]

I would advise using a barrier on the sides any time you can. Especially in very cold weather using a heater. This trailer will live in California.

[@bear4532]

Good to know thanks Larry.

[@couerl]

I wondered if it was better to let the things breathe and worried a vapor barrier just makes a place for water to pool and collect.

[@1bakerblue]

Great Job Larry, Its looking very nice. I understand why you're falling in love with it....

[@mobiltec]

Thanks Rudy.

[@Linda_Mayoh]

The end of this video reminds me of Gilligan and the Skipper!

[@mobiltec]

LOL... One of my favorite TV shows.

[@dontpayretail_thrift2687]

awesome video, we will be doing this in the next few weeks, thanks for all your return emails, Cary (and Angie ) in Colorado , yes he should move with you :)

[@mobiltec]

Hey guys nice hearing from you. Good luck with your metal install... Send photos..

[@EASTSIDERIDER707]

Now we meet Bill. Fly, Bill, fly!!

[@valeripicchi2]

How do you know where to put the screws in the field? How many and how far apart?

[@mobiltec]

Please tell me for screwing what? Interior paneling or exterior metal?

[@raymondmedicineelk7690]

Couldnt you use small quick clamps rigged with holes through handle for ropes instead of having to put screw holes in it

[@mobiltec]

The part that the screw holes are in get's cut off anyhow.

[@raymondmedicineelk7690]

mobiltec thanks

[@valeripicchi2]

The exterior metal, I replaced all my skins and I can’t find the video on how far apart and what pattern to follow for screwing the screws in the field of the external panels. And hello Larry! Should be finishing my camper this year, hopefully ! It’s been a long 6 years since I started!

[@mobiltec]

That depends on a few things. Many trailers have no screws on the outside of the skin. The windows and baggage doors hold the skin on. Along with the brows and the outside ports. If you do need screws on the outside it will be in just a few places where ever it looks like the metal is not held to the framework very well... I don't really have a video that shows that because each trailer is so different in that respect.

[@valeripicchi1367]

@@mobiltec I have a 1963 Shasta Airflyte www.thepeachypost.com Should i use screws on the skins? I took out the baggage doors because i didn't like the idea of someone being able to pry it open and put something under where i sleep.

[@mobiltec]

@@valeripicchi1367 Yes you should have a few screws here and there on that trailer especially if there are no baggage doors. I would say where the baggage doors are use three between the bottom of the window and the bottom of the trailer. Evenly spaced in height. Put them only in the creases of the metal. Not on the high parts. So 3 in the field under the windows. Two vertical rows of three each. Then maybe tow more vertical rows in the same creases somewhere in the middle. If the front side metal looks a little loose under the front windows then maybe a vertical row or two there. Just don't go crazy. You don't need them on every stud. Feel the metal and push on the creases and make up your own mind where they need to be before installing them. Make sure you hit a stud and hopefully you know where the wiring is in the wall if there is any so you don't hit that... Keep the lights all lit up while installing the screws. That way if you hit a wire you will know it right away.

[@valeripicchi1367]

@@mobiltec Thank you so much, you are the best. You really are.

[@MidAmericaPrep]

Just picked up a 60s Fan camper that is in fair shape but needs a new life. Learning quite an it about the restoration process. Where do you find your new skin?

[@mobiltec]

You need to visit my website. Hemet Valley RV and Siding is where I get it. He ships too. I have lots and lots of videos on the subject including the process of how they make the skin. All my videos are listed on the website so you can go to the one you need for your part of your project without sifting through them on You Tube. My next video will show how they make a new roof.

[@MidAmericaPrep]

mobiltec thanks! You make some great videos that are otherwise not made!

[@TONSOFVANARCHY]

Awe, we can't live without bill!

[@mobiltec]

I'm thinking of getting a Billroy puppet...

[@rosewomn]

Aww, if Bill isn't cooperating just stick him in a suitcase and take him with you. He's small enough, he'd fit. He really needs to break out of his rut and take a real exciting leap to Nevada. 😁

[@mobiltec]

I agree but he's Billroy... I'm hoping at the very least, when I need him he can come up for a week or two.

[@yoelroque3950]

Hi Larry I saw that u put home insulation on the camper , I put on mine 1 1/2 of insulation panels I saw this in KZbin bc it said bc the humidity or u get a leak inside it won’t get sag or go bad inside the walls of the camper what u think of doing it this way

[@mobiltec]

I disagree with the logic. First off, build your trailer so it doesn't leak. Second, the insulation is made out of fiberglass. So moisture that is just in the air won't hurt it because it will evaporate. Third, that solid foam panel does not work as well for insulation because it STORES heat and cold and eventually transmits it to the inside of the trailer. It's terrible for insulation... Fiberglass insulation does not transfer or store heat or cold. And it includes airspace around all the woven fibers which keeps it from storing heat or cold because it will dissipate into the surrounding air.

[@yoelroque3950]

This is my first project I do so I ask questions around plus u have the experience in building that’s why I ask u

[@mobiltec]

@@yoelroque3950 Im always here for your questions. Good luck on your build. I also have a great website where it is much easier to find my videos. www.cannedhamtrailers.com And I have on line classes. Link to the class on my website.

[@yoelroque3950]

@@mobiltec thank u Larry I appreciate it & u guys are great & funny

[@justjeff2849]

Whatcha going to do without old Billroy...he doesnt just stand there and look stupid...hes an idea man!

[@mobiltec]

Yes he is. I should listen to him more. It won't be the same without Billroy.

[@charleslefebvre5515]

Does anyone know what kind of staples he's using?

[@mobiltec]

1/4 inch crown staples that are 3/4 inch long. You want to buy only Porter Cable Chisel Tooth staples because they are the only ones I've found that will penetrate two layers of the .030 in metal skin. That would be in the fold over area.

[@jacobh1997]

What insulation do you use?

[@mobiltec]

I use R-13 in a roll and separate the layers into three. It's just the right thickness and sticks out just a bit so when you put the skin on you get the "puff factor"... Makes the skin feel more solid when you push on it slightly.

[@jacobh1997]

@@mobiltec I am going to be using 2x2 walls actual 1.75x1.75 can please make a video about you cut it I have been try to figure it out for over 2 weeks and cant find out. This was the exact thing I have been looking for!

[@mobiltec]

@@jacobh1997 I did a series on the 59 Forester which had 1.25 inch studs and rafters. Go to my website and look up the 59 Forester Project. www.cannedhamtrailers.com

[@xxclorox9096]

don't you put.silicond to prevent water damage? or leaks

[@mobiltec]

Never. Silicone doesn't work on Metal. Metal shrinks and expands with cold and heat. The seal is broken first time there is a temperature change. If you install the metal properly and apply the putty tape under the J Rail properly it won't leak.

[@couerl]

So do you just use it around the windows?

[@mobiltec]

No. I hardly ever use it. The only place I ever used it was around the solid front-side windows of the 57 Shasta and that was because of the poor design of the wooden window frame itself. Silicone does not seal anything metal because the metal shrinks and expands with changes in temperature thus breaking the seal immediately... Just stay away from silicone calking. Stay away from calking anything on the outside of the trailer. If sealed properly it won't leak.

[@alfredkabura4101]

Need this done to mines just found out it leaks and one end should be in the emergency room like right now.

[@mobiltec]

They all leak...

[@alfredkabura4101]

im up north in maine how can you help me.

[@mobiltec]

Watch all my trailer videos. That should help.

[@mtpalms]

Billroy needs to move with you!

[@mobiltec]

Agreed...

[@CDubsJourney]

In my head your line kept running through... I make mistakes... so you don't have to. Good job once the bugs were out. Yes, Bill should move too! Was it Groundhog Day??? LOL

[@mobiltec]

Yes it was Groundhog day LOL...

[@wild-radio7373]

Smart!♡♡♡ 🤜🏻👍🤛🏻

[@darrellwampler6473]

Keep Billroy!!

[@Toluca47]

Yes he should move with you.

[@mobiltec]

I'm trying to talk him into it.

[@pixotee2007]

take Bill with you.

[@mobiltec]

Would have loved to but he doesn't want to move...

[@DanielinLaTuna]

Bill should stay, and so should you; actually, we'll miss you. Is Bill going too?

[@mobiltec]

I'll still be on You Tube... Bill may travel to work with me when I need him.

[@Silvervwolfee]

Bill is goofy guy!!

[@billyslone6125]

That was a good video to learn how not to do it. That travel only takes 20 min to hang both sides and front and back ,

[@mobiltec]

Yes I was trying something new and it failed. But that's how we learn isn't it? This is why my motto is "I make mistakes so you don't have to"... Thanks for watching.

[@barnclebill6333]

funny stuff

[@mobiltec]

Gotta have fun with this stuff too.