Installing Vevor 8kw Diesel Heater In Garage, Will It Heat It?

[@FlawedOffroad]

Vevor 8kw Heater: s.vevor.com/bfQORw Use 5% off code: VVMH5%OFF

[@JustCallMeChad]

Pro setup tips: 1. Move the heater to the floor (heat rises, use it to your advantage) 2.get a 10 to 20 foot copper pipe to use as your exhaust run it a couple feet away from the wall, THEN outside, the heat exchangers on these things suck! most of your heat is going out your current exhaust pipe setup. 3. Put a very low speed fan blowing along the copper exhaust pipe.

[@r.c.d.creations7402]

There is a guy on youtube who has one of these and he is running the exhaust through a cast iron radiator and then outside, he is capturing all that exhaust heat through the radiator and then it goes outside, i might give it a try next winter.

[@FlawedOffroad]

Yeah that would work, especially if a guy was to rig up a little computer fan or something to blow over the exchanger to maximize it. I got mine mostly for camping but with the thought of using for supplemental heat for garage too so IDK if I would go through all that.

[@ThaRealGSP]

The “Out of Context Comments” were hilarious! 🤣👍

[@FlawedOffroad]

That clip went on forever and I had to delete most of it but then I noticed the theme so I went with it lol

[@RIMHQ-YT]

I have 2 of these in my workshop that is about size a double garage and a little more. Heats it from 2-3 Celsius to 18 celcius in about 35minutes. I have the remotes by my bed. I drink my coffee and then go into the shop.

[@FlawedOffroad]

It puts out great heat I’m sure it would do what I had hoped with 2 of them, or 1 of them in a 1 car without such a high ceiling that I have. I ran it a few times with my existing heater and it got warm way faster and was able to maintain 65 degrees once it was warm

[@RIMHQ-YT]

2 of these is the best. And before when i only had 1 i boosted the room with a propane cannon to get the temperature up and then the heater would do the job rest of the day. And also, having the cap on the end of the warm air hose is really holding back air and that makes the heater warm so it slows down and the total air moved wont be so much than having it all wide open. I on the intake where the fan is removed the gitter in front. But what really made everything awesome was having 2. They stay at the same place,and just are awesome. But you need to have something under to raise it for sure. And that smell was just the heater being run in. They dont smell anything. But you smelled your garage about to burn down lol.

[@FlawedOffroad]

yeah they need to include either some sort of elbow that's low profile or make the standoffs taller. For now I just put a piece of sheet metal down under it as a heat shield

[@White000Crow]

I run 2 in my container shop which is ~650 square feet. R10 on the walls, R3 on the ceiling, complete thermal break.

[@MT454]

Almost wonder if you attached the output to HVAC vents along your loft with a few off chutes if that would spread the heat more.

[@FlawedOffroad]

Not sure this thing has enough output to make that viable.

[@simonmatthew4553]

Id drink a beer with this guy and solve woke issues

[@johnboy3216]

It’s funner creating work issues while drinking lol

[@FlawedOffroad]

You Buying? Haha

[@Titan-mq6vy]

I need an update on how it worked and some tricks you ended up doing

[@FlawedOffroad]

Just watch the whole video to see how it worked, I did several tests

[@bkee62]

Nice job buttoning down the loosey-lazy stuff and making it proper and most likely safer🎉

[@FlawedOffroad]

Yeah it was bothering me being all tangled, I’ve become a bit of a wiring snob. Now if I would just take apart my jeep and fix the wiring that 12 years ago me did 😂

[@pksystems4714]

I had the same experience. The only difference is my unit is mounted outside, with insulated ducts for cold and hot air being pumped in/out of garage. Even warming up the entire garage with a propane torpedo heater, the diesel heater couldn't keep the garage a decent temperature.

[@FlawedOffroad]

Mine worked pretty decent to maintain the temp after I warmed it up with both. I mostly bought it for camping, this was just a test to see if it would do it

[@FIXitBUILDitGARAGE]

Great vid, very honest which I like - I recon this would heat my garage fine, about 1.5 car size but man that clicking sound, if that's all the time - I could not get away with that, would drive me made

[@FlawedOffroad]

Yeah its all the time. I saw another video on my feed, I did not watch it, but it was someone that found a quiet/silent fuel pump to retrofit

[@privatedata665]

very in depth video . better than other videos about this heater

[@FlawedOffroad]

Thanks. I was not expecting this to get viewed so much, It was just a little experiment but I'm glad it's helpful.

[@cottonpreppinpoor2709]

Find ya a old radiator from a central heat or drain the oil outa a space heater radiator n run the exhaust through it before goin outside

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@cottonpreppinpoor2709 that’s actually a pretty wicked idea. If I was relying on this thing to be my main heat source I would probably go do it but realistically this was just an experiment

[@robertbarcus1963]

Put a small fan in front of the heat duct and set it to low. your not moving air in stock form from that 3 inch tube. I use a ryobi fan. Do not run that 8KW on high for too long or your gonna get a overheat error. Run mine 24/7 and zero issues working out in the garage. Wrap your exhaust pipe with exhaust insulation tape. Use cement board between your studs for added fire safety.

[@davej3487]

For a 200% better heat exchanger, I ran my exhaust down to a welded 2 inch diameter black steel pipe radiator using T and Elbows. A 4 foot square radiator will catch a lot of heat from the exhaust. The pipes are vertical so any condensation can run outside and the bottom pipe is sloped to the outside. May get a bit of ice collected.... I also put the outside air intake pipe and the exhaust pipe together at the bottom of my radiator to preheat the intake air. Removed the stupid duct hose setup.

[@BarbarianInFact]

​@@davej3487great idea

[@marvinsauer8493]

8kw is about 27,300 btu/hour. That is input not output. Output is 27,300 X efficiency of the heater. If exhaust is ~250 degrees probably around 70-80% efficient. 27,300 X .75 = 20,500 btu output.

[@FlawedOffroad]

I've had a few suggestions of running the exhaust through a radiator of sorts to leech all the heat out of it. Pretty good idea on a permanent install.

[@Oofsmageroo]

​@@FlawedOffroadrun the exhaust through an old EGR cooler and run the liquid through a radiator

[@gerardjones7881]

use a torpedo heater running kero to get the temps up, then run the vevor to maintain.

[@taterzsalad9252]

my basment is 24 by 56 with a 9by7 roll up door and mine keeps it nice

[@FlawedOffroad]

I’m assuming it runs nonstop or it’s at least attached to your house so it gets some residual heat from there

[@MalarkeyTaylor]

I have the same problem as you with the propane heat in my shop when I’m making dust. The headache I get from it is pretty nasty.

[@FlawedOffroad]

Sometimes I run a box fan with an air filter tape to the back next to where I’m grinding to catch most of the dust

[@victorreece9256]

can you build wall brace outside and put it outside with intake and output in the gargage.

[@FlawedOffroad]

you could but I think it would be much less efficient(heat loss)

[@cottonpreppinpoor2709]

Volume, a lighter is hot too but not near enough to heat a room

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@cottonpreppinpoor2709 this whole thing was just an experiment, I got the heater for cold weather camping but I wanted to see if it would take the edge out of the garage

[@skblack5050]

What's the Sq. Ft. of the garage? , Also, remember that all the steel in the garage has to be heated up as well.

[@FlawedOffroad]

think its about 22x24 or somewhere around that.

[@DaddyJeepGarage]

A desktop computer power supply puts out 12v on some of the outputs and 5v on others.... Just so you know

[@FlawedOffroad]

Suppose I have a few old legacy psu's laying in a tote somewhere, I used to build pcs for people

[@GoPaintman]

I’m not sure if maybe mine wasn’t up to snuff, but the label on the side said it would do 20A. It kept on dropping as soon as the unit used any current. Comp power supplies might be more sensitive to inrush than say a Meanwell LRS-350-12

[@Akira-gi6vz]

U missed the part of how u hooked the bottom could be confusing for some but good video

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@Akira-gi6vz it was a pain in the ass, there’s not enough room to do it properly but I made it work

[@elisekuloski3951]

Nice install but you really didn't need to run your intake outside next to exhaust

[@FlawedOffroad]

You can choose to do it wrong if you want to but there’s a reason why basically every heat system ever does this and I explained it in the video. Walk downstairs and look at your furnace, it sends the combustion intake outside also. It’s not the intake for the air blowing across the heater.

[@davej3487]

For every cubic foot of hot exhaust expelled outside, the room must draw in that exact amount of COLD air, defeating the efficiency. Why heat cold replacement air when you can draw in outside air?

[@Josh-dy7pf]

What is the constant ticking noise?

[@FlawedOffroad]

Pretty sure I mentioned its the fuel pump. Most of these diesel heaters are like that, Ive heard there are silent pump upgrades

[@Josh-dy7pf]

@FlawedOffroad thank you, I was thinking of buying one but if it ticks like that constantly, it would drive me nuts.

[@petem.3719]

Fuel pump is supposed to be mounted at a 30⁰ angle.

[@danielpiche6759]

Definitely if you run a exhaust heat exchanger you get more out that unit..

[@travismcvey]

8kw is only 2.7btu. You'd need like 10 of those to cone close to your ventless. If you really want to eliminate your wall heater get a used gas furnace.

[@FlawedOffroad]

I got the thing for camping, I just wanted to see how it would do since I’ve seen some other videos on KZbin of people saying it worked, I was skeptical from the get-go for that big of a space

[@codprawn]

These are actually only 4kw - still brilliant value though.

[@ThaRealGSP]

Have you ever tried a patio heater? Just an idea…

[@FlawedOffroad]

What like those stand up ones? Lacking floor space. I got this thing for camping and decided to experiment with seeing how it would do in the garage. It’s not a huge deal that it wasn’t enough cause it was just a test. and it’s working quite nicely combined with the existing heater.

[@walleyeye]

How do you prime that heater with that specific controler?

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@walleyeye don’t recall. Pretty sure it self primes when powered on

[@Mezzgrave]

Maybe good for heating a tent??

[@FlawedOffroad]

This thing will burn you out of a tent it puts out quite a bit of heat. This was just an experiment

[@andyteal766]

I bought 2 8kw for my 2 car fully insulated garage. It was 50 degrees outside and it took 3 hours to raise the temp 10 degrees. I’m not impressed with them at all. They don’t maintain even. I had the temp up to 67 shut one off and it drop down to 63 in an hour. Mind you 50 degrees outside I’m gonna keep them and use them for my fish house

[@FlawedOffroad]

I mean they are meant to heat a car or a tent, not a full size garage. This was just an experiment for me and I largely had the same results. Although it was much colder when I did it which is harder to raise the temp. It does help my other heater get the shop warm faster though. If you had a storage container sized shop that would probably be the max.

[@jasonmorehouse3756]

If the temperature in your garage dropped 7° in 1 hour, then your garage is not nearly insulated as well as you think it is. It's a problem with your garage. Not a problem with these heaters. Educate yourself kid. You answered your own problem with your comment.

[@petem.3719]

1 kwh = 3400 BTU. 5k and "8k" are about 17,000 BTU.

[@jimschaffroth5652]

You're supposed to crack a window 1/4" when you run a ventless heater. You're starving it of air and creating carbon monoxide. You'd be surprised how well they burn when given air.

[@FlawedOffroad]

I've got enough fresh air inlets in there to equal more than a 1/4" cracked window. No seals on garage door theres between 1/8 and 1/4 all the way around the door most places anyway. doesnt change that when you kick up dust they burn orange and make fumes

[@codprawn]

These are not 8kw - actual output is only 4kw. Having said that they are brilliant value. I run 3 of them on kerosene. One has over 5000 hours of use and still going strong.

[@FlawedOffroad]

around here kerosene is stupid expensive compared to diesel. does it burn longer or what reason are you using it?

[@codprawn]

@@FlawedOffroad ​@FlawedOffroad Kerosene is much cheaper than diesel in the UK due to our taxes. Without the tax they work out the same here. Kerosene is cleaner burning but has a slightly lower heat output. Not much difference really.

[@davej3487]

@@codprawn Here we can get #2 stove diesel oil without road tax. It is dyed different so if you get caught running it in a car or truck the fines can be harsh. Road diesel runs about $4.60 US$ for a US Gallon, 3.8L.

[@codprawn]

​@@davej3487​@davej3487 Our current price in the UK for road diesel is $6.64! People blame the oil companies. Itis government taxes that are the real rip off! Our heating oil/kerosene is currently equal to $2.77 per us gallon.

[@norrisheckwine7439]

I can almost smell the oil in your garage... 😀

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@norrisheckwine7439 not sure if that’s a compliment or an insult but you’re not wrong lol.

[@nonoyorbusness]

Don't take the cold air from outside, take the air from inside and recirculate it.

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@nonoyorbusness it’s just the combustion air that I took from outside which goes right back outside out the exhaust pipe. The air that gets heated is pulled from inside

[@davej3487]

@@FlawedOffroad Most viewers do not understand there are two air intakes. First one is for the intake to the combustion chamber and is NOT shared with the room air flow. Second one is just for the heat exchanger and does not mix with the other one. Only goes out the fan to the room.

[@jasonmorehouse3756]

Incorrect

[@jasonmorehouse3756]

That wouldn't be recirculating yet. The air is drawing in from outside Is used for the combustion chamber and it vents directly back outside through the exhaust. It never comes in contact with the inside of the building

[@talonpilot]

17F = -8.333 °C

[@Slayer-di2ih]

I would have tested before putting a hole in my wall😂

[@FlawedOffroad]

I have 2 future projects that require said holes so they will be dual purpose haha. If I ever get around to it.

[@MudMonsterRacing4]

That clicking is a deal breaker for me

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@MudMonsterRacing4 I’ve heard you can get silent pumps for them.

[@talusranch990]

Unless you're freezing your ass off

[@MudMonsterRacing4]

@@talusranch990 There's plenty of other ways to heat.

[@bloothedog4443]

My neighbors propane wall unit (looks same) turns orange after it heats up. I dont like it because of the moisture. Heck im almost in a subtropical forest in southern Appalacia. Moss and lichen and black mold sees lots of opportunity here.😀 Line level ✔. Also, here's how your heater was made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHy4g3hmasSFhqs

[@roadrunner3563]

Don't quite understand these vids. If you put a little insulation in the garage, you can heat it with one or two 1500 watt heaters. I heat mine down to the 20s this way. Gets it to the low 60s at least. And my garage door is uninsulated wood/masonite. INSULATION!

[@FlawedOffroad]

@@roadrunner3563 I don’t know if you looked around anywhere during the video the entire garage is insulated including the roof lol

[@robbiehamilton4424]

Your wasting so much heat/time with the heater so high up, you need it as low as possible for best results and quicker heat time

[@fedorp4713]

When it comes to F vs C. It's not fore those in Canada.... It's for those in the rest of the world. Have a think about that...

[@FlawedOffroad]

Well Canadians are the closest to me and the ones most likely to be watching my channel that use c, sorry you felt left out lol. And sorry you don’t use the superior measuring system😅🦅🦅 all that said it was meant to be a joke

[@fedorp4713]

@@FlawedOffroad Haaah It's all the same at -40. Diesel heaters are only about 70% efficient. I have 3 of them and only use them for tent camping and in the van. It would cost you a fortune in diesel and 10 of those heaters to get your garage to room temp if it's below freezing outside.

[@FlawedOffroad]

Good thing I didnt get the thing with heating the garage in mind. I got it for camping and decided to run a garage test for science lol. That and I heard someone at work talking about getting one to heat garage. I was a doubter from the beginning. I do believe it would eventually get it heated.@@fedorp4713

[@fedorp4713]

@@FlawedOffroad I use a 45,000 BTU propane heater (which is about 4.5X the output of a diesel heater) in an insulated 24x32 garage and the temp only goes up by 5 degrees after an hour. Those diesel heaters are designed for small spaces like cars and trucks, not garages. Realistically a double car garage would need a 80,000-100,000 BTU heater.

[@davej3487]

@@fedorp4713 I use to get ice forming on my garage wall when using unvented Propane. Too much moisture. Found a used Mobile Home Propane forced air furnace that was 60,000 BTU.

[@j0hnny_R3db34rd]

Wow. 5% off. Generous..

[@FlawedOffroad]

Better than 0? Wasn’t meant to be a sales pitch, I just asked vevor if they had a coupon