Instant Analysis - The Toronto Maple Leafs Sign Three Goalies!

Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the Toronto Maple Leafs goalie moves today. They extended Joseph Woll, signed Anthony Stolarz and extended Matt Murray. What do you think of the moves?
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[@RobbieG17]

So Murray is the new Jones, and we got rid of Sammy for Stolarz? I don’t hate it.

[@cjmllvv]

Average but not above that

[@KS-xk2so]

cheaper overall too I believe... at least this year.

[@Doodledawgg]

I hate it. Matt Murray is terrible

[@acobb7961]

@@Doodledawgg lol he's our third string goalie. Who does Florida or Edmonton have?

[@drexxler138]

Dude you literally traded mediocre goaltending for mediocre goaltending and you call that a win?

[@jugsteve]

100% agree on. Having healthy Murray play 5-10

[@alphadog1961]

SHIFTS

[@biffstrong1079]

Guess 35 for Woll, 25 for Stolarz , 10 for Hildeby, 5 for Murray. And twelve games just running out six forwards.

[@TheLoneDrow22]

The new NHL😂

[@ryder5122]

Hildeby isn't close yet...

[@sinnistar99]

86 games, so out in 4? 🤣🤣

[@nostradavus5051]

You’re mathing wrong.

[@biffstrong1079]

@@sinnistar99 I am mathing wrong. Nothing worse than trying to be funny but mathing wrong. Short version is I'd like another veteran goalie to carry or at least be there to carry part of the load. Big problem in Ottawa was Korpisalo but expecting Korpisalo to be good and start more games than he had ever started before. No back up plan when it turned out he couldn't.

[@gregkirby9059]

LEAFS defence is now 1.Tanev-Rielly 2.Beniot-Hakapenaa 3.OEL-Liligren

[@anthonydurante1149]

Forgot about McCabe.

[@filipohman7277]

Hakanpää

[@larrygill2223]

Tanev is good, but he’s made of glass. He’s 34 signed until he’s 40 lmao. He may have 1 or 2 years left before he’s an anchor. And your other answer is OEL???? Lmaooooo

[@alltheworldsastage.]

LTIR Read behind the loopholes ​@@larrygill2223

[@alphadog1961]

@@anthonydurante1149 THE BEST was left out

[@biffstrong1079]

If Murray is your Third goalie, you need a fourth goalie.

[@stephenphillips6245]

Should have kept Martin Jones as third

[@mattheww7846]

Hildeby should be ready for Kallgren duty

[@topperharley7892]

Murray signed. He must have made huge improvements

[@stephenphillips6245]

@@topperharley7892 I hope you are right...might have to be the go to guy for parts of the season.

[@cbi-ju5mi]

@@stephenphillips6245not sure but Jones may have wanted more term. Matt Murray was open to a one yr deal at minimum- hoping to get a chance to show other teams he is healthy again…

[@vipeholmskolan6052]

I think the Woll gamble is a sound one to make.

[@jpmartin2312]

Based on what? 35 starts, no clue what he is. Price is right I guess.

[@vipeholmskolan6052]

@@jpmartin2312 Small sample so sure there is risk, but the glimpses he has shown scream elite.

[@canadian__ninja]

If I'm a leafs fan (I'm not) I'm pleased to see Woll get pretty much guaranteed starters minutes because he's real good, but I'm also worried about the workload issue with his injury history already coupled with the fact that Stolarz has never played more than 29 games.

[@payrysdoscs4903]

Stollie the goalie!

[@giii7599]

TORONTO PROJECTED CAP HIT : $88,794,667 PROJECTED LTIR USED : $0 PROJECTED CAP SPACE: $0 (-$794,667 ) Leafs 794K in the hole as they sit.

[@morequinnoliver9005]

Weber probably starts in the A

[@HandsomeDanVacationRentals]

Murray will be LTIR'd before the season.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

They are allowed to be up to 10 percent over the cap until opening night.

[@filipohman7277]

Get Finnish Goalie Harri Säteri!!! CHECK His Performance!!!! Awesome and Cheap Goalie!!! 500.000

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@filipohman7277 He is going to play for less money than the league minimum?

[@northernpike7668]

So, were putting all of our stock in Woll then? This is the game plan? What are we even doing here? I hate being a leafs fan.

[@johnwicks4936]

Meanwhile, Ottawa gets Linus Ulmark who won a Vezina a year ago.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Are the Leafs even going to make the playoffs?

[@filipohman7277]

Get Finnish Goalie Harri Säteri, check his performance guys!! He is Awesome and Cheap 500.000👍👍😎🇫🇮

[@amgm4824]

Good work for the leafs 🎉

[@chriswall1667]

Three backup goalies, we are screwed.

[@GenericUsername23]

Goaltending still feels like such an afterthought in Toronto

[@5ayes12]

30 games woll 100 stolarz --hardest thing to do is be a no.1 given the load and increasing book on weaknesses

[@HandsomeDanVacationRentals]

It's a weak goalie lineup unless Woll hits big or Murray rediscovery his first year Pens form which doesn't seem likely. Not unexpected though when all you can afford for your whole goalie tandem is 5M per.

[@xtrickster6556]

Why didn’t they try for ullmark?

[@scruffybearbreaks8774]

They did try for Ullmark...he had Toronto as a no go on his no movement clause.

[@filipohman7277]

Too Expensive

[@Scoots_McGee]

If they traded Marner they would have had plenty of cap space for a #1 goalie. They were in on Markstrom, and they were interested in Ullmark. They are $800k in the hole for cap space, Ullmark has a $5M cap hit. The leafs MUST trade on of the 4 guys so they have money for goaltending and depth forwards. It's gotta be Tavares or Marner

[@filipohman7277]

@@Scoots_McGee Markström😅 yesterday Goalie

[@filipohman7277]

@@Scoots_McGee CHECK Harri Säteri

[@elviscalahasen9488]

Goalies in the NHL get better after 30. Like a fine wine.

[@BrentGiroux]

Why can't they have a three goalie rotation. Less chance of being overworked thus less chance of an injury??

[@everyonesguy7466]

This is basically two goalie and a half 😂

[@hockey_highlights_and_more]

Between the three it’s more like a goalie and a half

[@stephentyler4352]

Chris Kreider is already planning how and when he’s going to end the Leafs entire season. Leafs might as well rename their arena House of Cards Shack.

[@MrNicolas61]

Couldnt they have kept jones instead of murray?

[@Michael-pg7rv]

Signing a third goalie only makes sense if you are planning to run a tandem. We know Woll has issues with injury so they are going to have a trigger finger and send him on the IL if he has the slightest injury.

[@J-Dogg-wt1hp]

Boys -Same results next year . They will have a fantastic regular season . And you will get what they are paid for in a 82 game season . Then 28 Days pass (Rage virus) and then Your talking pucks again for next year ....repeat.

[@sman8491]

Hmmmmm.......3 goalies. Leafs can dress all 3 start 2 of them at the same time. Each can cover half the net & have a backup on the bench. They might stop a puck.😂

[@3flavourscornetto237]

makes zero sense, old man type joke tell it to ur nurse

[@phillipc.1805]

Once again the leafs will enter another season without a true standout goalie. More bets, more spit balling, more of the same. 2 injury prone goalies and a backup - yup, thats about right.

[@boneseyyl1060]

How many standout goalies are there and how much are you willing to pay for them? Really the only way to get standout goalies now is to draft them, and most teams still don't believe in spending picks on goalies. Shesterkin drafted. Oettinger drafted. Hellebucyk drafted. Demko drafted. Still playing for original teams. Last time Leafs drafted for a decent goalie was Tuuka Rask. And we know where that went.

[@phillipc.1805]

@@boneseyyl1060 Well yes and no. Belfour, Joseph, Anderson were all acquired through trade. Though Boston probably wouldn't want Ullmark to play in Toronto - why not just go for it and build out the team with solid goal tending in addition to the defensive additions? Ullmarks 5 million? Brodie pays for that - and next year Tavares stupid money comes off the books. I think the Leafs aren't thinking big and drastic enough - they are no where near cup contention and that's what this whole thing is about. The Tuuka Rask situation is another clear indication that the Leafs organization more times than not, has there collective heads up their ...fill in the blank when it comes to goalies. Raycroft for Tuuka good lord. Bringing back glass jawed Murray, yowza. Woll gets hurt after 2 games after sitting for months - yikes. The Stolarz deal is decent.

[@boneseyyl1060]

@@phillipc.1805 Pretty much agree. But those goalies you mention were pretty far back in the day. It's a different game now, especially when it comes to goalies. Agree Stolarz is a solid addition. Murray can play. He just can't play more than 5 games a year. Woll is starting to look sketchy too but I blame a lot of his injuries on the Leaf defence hanging him out to dry every other shift. Some of the new guys should help him out there. I think they are doing what you want basically. Rebuilding from the back out. Lots of changes and a new coach, it should be a different team to watch this year.

[@jamesbruce8749]

Woll needs to stay healthy...I am sold on him, if he is not hurt he is a quality #1 by his numbers. Just please for the love of God stop getting hurt!!! Murray is an Insurance plan for Woll. If Woll ends up hurt again the Stolarz and Murray tandem could be what we watch most of the year.

[@anikinkhan]

Question. Campbell over Murray? With the same cap hit and term. Who would you sign?

[@alphadog1961]

NEITHER

[@cameronlorenzo780]

Except Silvos is young up and coming their goalie with potential

[@timnoseworthy4623]

Jesse is 100% correct in Murray. 10 games, playoff ready. He could be super important in the playoffs of things go sideways

[@geoffreyhigginson5290]

Treviling needed to save all this cap space instead of assigning it to players leading into their 40s. Sign 1 yr deals and let this Tavares contract expire. Work on unloading on great defense and goalie if one doesn't come to fruition this year.

[@jussaysomethin8923]

You sign Matt Murray that cheap because of Wolls' injury history. Stolarz will share the crease almost 60/40 with Woll if Woll can stay healthy for the 60%. Otherwise, it's 60/40 Stolarz. Woll only has 36 NHL games under his belt. They needed MM after Wolls' latest back injury in the playoffs. You dont miss a game 7 unless it's either a legit injury or your goalie has no balls. Either one is a red flag for Woll! It's the cheapest way to make sure you always have somewhat of a dependable goalie and backup each night, whether Woll is hurt or not. They went out and signed Hakanpaa, OEL and Tanev to multi year deals past their prime(all over 30)[Signing Tanev @34yo to a 6 year deal is a head scratcher] because they knew they needed to put solid defensemen in front of these goalies. Morgan Rielly defensively just wouldn't cut it! Imo, It's Wolls' job to lose to Stolarz. MM is nothing but a safety net for now. But I'm gonna pick him up in my dynasty league anyway to possibly handcuff Stolarz when Wolls inevitably hurt! 😝...

[@GP8201]

Martin Jones proved this past season he's a viable backup somewhere. Murray knows this is his last chance to get back in the league and good on the Leafs for giving him one last shot.

[@TheLoneDrow22]

Matt Magic Beans Murray...😂Let's Goooo.

[@rhaspados666]

My predictions woll has a top first 6 weeks and blows his knee stolarz is average and murray starts in the play offa

[@samuelclemons-d7p]

And Hildeby comes in and blows everyone away with how good he actually is.

[@KohPhanganSummer]

Plan the Parade! Finally the edges around the Core4 have been fixed.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

i have this sinking feeling that we are looking at the Leafs line up come October. The Core Four in Leafs jerseys promising a Cup and having another first round exit in the playoffs, if they even make it.

[@TooncesTheDrivingCat]

Stolarz will be #1.

[@scruffybearbreaks8774]

Good gawd I hope not or we are doomed next season.

[@ccgear4367]

Why not try to collect 5 goalies?

[@budgetbirder]

Also keep in mind that the Leafs may bring Hildeby up and give him 4-5 games just to see what they got.. so long as they don't play him 10 games or more to burn the first year of his ELC. I know Leafs left themselves in a spot to approach the goalie situation in the manner they did. But Murray is an insurance policy, per say, and if he gets hurt then he put him on LTIR ( again) and pick up another guy for that 3rd spot

[@trollthedicey]

"per say" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kevinjhonson5925]

I don’t care anymore every year it’s the same thing. I’m full of hope they might do something. I watch every game to just get crushed in the playoffs again and again. I don’t know if I can keep doing this I’m 47 and just want one cup before I depart this earth.

[@PeteNice29]

I don’t think Matt Murray isn’t vying to start in camp. Yes, I said it.

[@MrNicolas61]

Matt murray got robot hips now. Hes better than ever.

[@filipohman7277]

Or Get Finnish Goalie Jussi Olkinuora he is Awesome Too and Cheap 400.000 😎👍Greetings from Helsinki, Finland🇫🇮

[@paulrafiq2525]

Are the leafs trying to break the record for how many guys you can put on l.t.i.r. In one year they just might go avs go.

[@fedadeg]

Stolarz is probably going to become the starter by the end of the season

[@danhillgartner4741]

The Leafs are a personal ATM for Murray. 😅

[@OotoriKyouya]

So they still don't have a number one reliable goaltender. The Leafs complained so much about goaltending this past season and then they wet the bed this offseason by signing Murray and Stolarz. Nothing against Stolarz, but he is not a number 1. As for Woll, he is made out of glass. The Leafs went cheap on goaltending...again. Prepare for another goaltending issue talk this upcoming season

[@KS-xk2so]

There's a cap bud. Gotta do what you can with what you've got to play with. Also, a bonafide number one isn't really neccessary anymore. Look at the Avs and Knights. Heck even Florida had a solid tandem in reality, with stretches of Bob remembering how he used to play lol

[@canad1anadventure]

Matt Murray signs, woohoo!!

[@S0RR0WSPELL]

They signed Murray because they aren't sure Woll can stay healthy

[@troybarton3515]

I think if Murray plays average it’s something like 30-30-20 for games played unless Woll plays outstanding

[@matthoffman6962]

Woll is the guy if he can stay healthy. Stolarz can be a good backup. I’m fine with this goalie tandem. Murray is an after thought really because he hasn’t played in how long?

[@hyperdyper9816]

hopefully tree has a trades in the work to move lilgren, that signing makes no sense for the leafs... its time to move him. we got a bunch of big boys now

[@KS-xk2so]

Apparently Lilly would've gotten upwards of 3.5 in arbitration, so this was probably the minimum he'd agree to. That being said, with them signing Tanev and Hak, the right isn't as bare, I agree, trade his ass.

[@rickyma3189]

Woll will last 2 weeks because the Leafs for the life of them can't limit the number of 10- bell saves he's always forced to make, going side to side and blowing out his knees.

[@PeteNice29]

The goalies you have when your top four sucks your cap dry.

[@wilseph1]

Leaces have 3 goalies in name. In reality, they have 2 playable goalies.

[@topperharley7892]

They have a better defense that should be a factor

[@chuckmaloney1298]

There is an opportunity for a chance for Murray to play some games.

[@dynamoproductions5]

Everybody dumping on Murray already... smh

[@Paul-eb9qj]

Same old Same old. Too much money on 4 guys and you end up with bottom tier free agents

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Is there ever any doubt? Something tells me that this is the Leafs line up come October.

[@Omegatherebel]

Stolarz needs to start because we’re actually overpaying Woll as is and any team that pays him over 3M is madd 😂

[@RumAndWhiskey]

Murray. Again. Hey do you think that after 25 years of fandom it’s okay to switch teams? Asking for a friend.

[@Harosho]

I would have gone with Campbell again over Murray. I think Murray is finished in the NHL-AHL

[@craigharrison5406]

I would bet money Murray doesn't play 10 games before he gets hurt.

[@matthoffman6962]

@@craigharrison5406he won’t even need to play that many so it’s fine

[@gregkirby9059]

LEAFS Goalies The WALL, The STOLI, The MUR

[@scottpressnail543]

I am not knocking this goalie arrangement for The Leafs. I do find the talk about Joseph Woll extension eerily similar to the talk when they traded for Matt Murray.

[@jameson1239]

Just watch Woll is going to have an average at best due to the defense in front of him and these guys will be back saying “well in Toronto we have a culture of never blaming the goalie but you need a save from Woll”

[@KS-xk2so]

comparing the two is insane, their play, style, and career experience, are all wildly different lol

[@scottpressnail543]

@@KS-xk2so It's nothing to do with them personally. It's how the team is talking about the trade/extension.

[@davidwarrenboucher9011]

Murry at legue minimum???

[@afzalhakeen4941]

hopelly the leafs will let all their 3 goalies play net at once during play-offs .so they can win in the first round

[@austinberger3247]

Matt murray is there for injuries and to mentor hildeby. Guys that never played hockey talking about hockey doesnt work....

[@johnwicks4936]

This is a disaster waiting to happen..lol. They gambled before like this. I think his name was Jack Campbell.

[@ed230]

The woll situation isn't a good deal until hes a good deal just saying

[@99HockeyDad99]

Top 15 is a STRETCH !!!!

[@gordonmacdowell8117]

I think that Stolarz is a solid signing for what the Leafs have to spend and Matt Murray is high risk, low price. It would have been better to bring back Jones or with Woll's injury record go harder on someone like DeSmith. As Steve said, not a lot of goalies available and if he''ll be playing behind the Leafs instead of Florida.

[@ge2655h20]

Panther fan here...Stolie is a good guy, coming from a good organization with an excellent goalie department. Faith is bestowed upon Spencer Knight, making Stolie expendable. I believe you will be pleased, no only with Stolie but OEL too.

[@gordonmacdowell8117]

@@ge2655h20 I think he's good, but he did have the added benefit of playing behind the Panthers, compared to the team defence of the Leafs, which can really throw goalies to the wolves.

[@babayaga4355]

@@gordonmacdowell8117in the past for sure. New coach, new Defensive and d zone systems…..I have hope he’ll do well.

[@KS-xk2so]

@@babayaga4355 yeah I agree. This new D core, with Berube at the helm, won't be as pussy soft net front as the 2023/24 Leafs.

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

MUSTACHE MOUNTAIN IS BACK BABY!!!! MATT MURRAY

[@johndondertman1502]

Goalie issue not solved.. same same..

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Get Cujo back ....

[@KimBouchard]

I thought Matt Murray retired.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

The cupboard is bare. Remember when Cujo came back from retirement? Same idea.

[@danielgertler5976]

I'll be happy with anyone but Samsanov. I can't believe people are still defending him.

[@TorontoMapleLeafs-yt2xv]

But you have faith in these 3? 😂 What a joker!!!!

[@markdowding1933]

If Steve likes Zoo animals, I am a zoo keeper in Niagara, he can come and feed my rhino.

[@Fritz823]

Giggity

[@zascorpusa]

WtF is Marner still a leaf. Big L Treliving. Move him for cap space

[@KS-xk2so]

He has a full no move clause dude, its not a simple thing to pull off.

[@Alexdenomme]

We got some good signings this year. Next year with Tavares and Marner gone you have 22 million to add a Rockstar goalie, and have 16 million to spend on adding more depth

[@krob5375]

​@@Alexdenommeexactly. And the goalies available should be better than the thin crop this year.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

He's not going anywhere until his contract expires. He will be a Leaf next season, and will disappear in the playoffs, if they get there.

[@ultraginge1990]

I don’t hate this. Considering the whole league is trying to prevent us getting any tending :P

[@Patatetbk]

No one is trying to do that but the Leafs themselves, they have no money for goalies.

[@philc824]

Mat Murray will be healthy and get the Leafs past the first round of the playoffs.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Isn't that what they said about Samsonov .... Campbell ....

[@richardkeller4892]

Leafs need 1 goalie. Bobrovsky

[@scruffybearbreaks8774]

Murray should be retired. He hasn't got it anymore and Woll is not ready to be #1. Stolarz makes for a good backup. So when are the Leafs going to get a good goalie cuz of they don't they might as well pack in in next season.

[@robertgosselin14]

Three plugs, yeah, it’s very interesting.

[@hjallebyss2603]

Hot take: Leafs make it in a deep PO run with Marner and Tavares stealing all the cap-space! Thay need to wait a season and when the Leafs get 20 MILION in cap space thay can sighn a elit goalie! Like Ullmark! Then were talking!

[@KS-xk2so]

Anyone investing 7+ into a goalie right now is a goof, no matter who it is. Superstar goalies don't win cups anymore, gettings 2 or 3 really solid tandem guys is the play. Even Florida was a strong tandem. Besides Tampa, most of the last several Cup winners don't have superstar goalies making 8-10.

[@KS-xk2so]

@@CLIBBINSANDHAWGS Bob has significantly underplayed that contract every single year except maybe this one. Even this one, he got caved in right at the finish line, didn't he? They gave him a rest with the rest of their tandem, and then he came back and won them game 7. If your proof of success is the Bob contract, your argument sucks. He's spend signifcant stretches of it being a 10 million dollar back up, tying that much to any one goalie is foolish in today's NHL.

[@SNFDNSD]

Woll isn't even a proven goalie, he's looked good at times but at a small sample.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Reminds me of a very young James Reimer ... except he gets injured a lot.

[@Winamp_]

i dont like 888canada, i had to sell my kidney. But im happy the leafs got a new goalie!

[@jean-lucmongrain1971]

beep boop

[@deltagolavista1]

High risk at a key position. Career back up + Sophmore + an injury proned goalie who runs cold more than he runs hot, shouldn't give fans hope for next season.

[@oo7952]

Saros😢

[@waynemclean1799]

Wow, depending on Murray is bad idea.

[@jugsteve]

They have the Hildebeast

[@02smithm1]

They aren't depending on him. If he gets 10 games, he'll be lucky. Hildebeast is on the cusp on making the jump so if MM gets injured (apologies, *when* he gets injured), we're fine.

[@KS-xk2so]

3rd goalie with a promising rookie in the AHL right behind him is "depending on" now?

[@Jays5.0-x6o]

Not a fan of this trio. Woll stolarz and another goalie other than Murray be nice

[@mns2360]

Still need a stronger starter in goal and more importantly, a topp tier defenseman to create a balanced team. Sorry, I'm still not seeing anything that would change things next year.

[@MatthewDavies-w6m]

They’re not getting stronger goal tending, this is it

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

I'm with you. Just a lot of tinkering around the edges. DUmBAss and that Leafs Killer, Shanahan, really ruined the Leafs.

[@scottcampbell5536]

Still no top goalie.

[@Doodledawgg]

Woll is not getting 5 million haha he can’t even stay healthy

[@tylerjohnson8973]

Everyone is down on murray.....he needed hip surgery..thats why he sucked, watch and mark my words....murray will end up being number 1

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Considering who else they got, you may be right.

[@markirek8956]

Matt Murray is many things being a goalie isn't one of them! lol

[@99HockeyDad99]

Bunch of 2nd string goalies !!!

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

I guess the Leafs will hope to outscore their opponents ...

[@timw4369]

they will all be injured by christmas

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

I guess they're going to have to call their Zamboni driver ... again.

[@norrislaitinen5011]

You guys are literally celebrating three goaltenders that nobody wants lol. You have to appreciate Toronto's ability to throw parades for failure. Good luck with Eckman Larson LOL

[@jeffsframe9927]

Lame. Typical Leafs lame. Did you see the level of goaltending needed to even get to the Conference finals ? Shows the Leafs aren’t serious. Which we knew I guess 🤷‍♂️

[@pantsumonster]

Cope

[@KS-xk2so]

I saw the Knights and Avs win Cups last and 2 years ago with a tandem core of goalies... so not sure what you're on about.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

@@KS-xk2so Yeah but not these type of goalies: Murray - washed up & injury prone; Woll - gets hurt a lot and ordinary when healthy; Stolarz - career back up. You might as well get Cujo back.