The Metabolic Classroom, Ep. 12: Salt and Insulin Sensitivity

[@UnapologeticAhole]

If Ben knows the answer he explains in detail. If he dosent know, he simply says,I don't know. This is the man I pay attention to.

[@benbikman]

Thanks for your kind comment.

[@DearSweetMelody]

I remember telling friends to stop drinking soda as a good start toward improving health. One of my friends came to me later and said, “You should be careful because you’re not a doctor.” So I guess I need a medical degree to recommend not drinking soda. 😅 That’s an extreme example, but it’s one of the many things I hear when giving advice.

[@monnoo8221]

you should not give direct advice, but always wrap it like "there are scientific studies that demonstrate that it is very likely not a good idea to XYZ...."

[@GoneCarnivore]

It's sad that the world doesn't know how lucky they are to be alive while Ben Bikman is blessing us with this knowledge.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

I'm a heart patient. My cardiologist told me, "Don't take vitamins", because I told him I take vitamin supplements. He said that I'm just pissing my money away (because he thinks all vitamins are water soluble). I asked, "Can I eat vegetables?" because vegetables contain vitamins. After my heart surgery, he wanted to put me on statin drugs. I said, "Absolutely not!" So he kinda hates me. But I figure, "Patient heal thyself."

[@tserevenad]

I have read that statins may have a place when you’ve experienced an event. You may want to research this further. I agree in general don’t take them. But in your case dig deeper to understand as well as possible.

[@sdluedtke7803]

I just smile and nod my head. It’s a win win situation.

[@C2yourself]

Interview another couple of doctors. You can find one who listens

[@kenmerrill4061]

How can he get any freebies from the statin pharmaceutical companies if he can't put you on their payroll. 😊😊

[@donshelton7332]

What's frustrating is having to educate your personal doctor, especially when they compliment you for doing a great job following their instructions; then you tell them that their instructions were not followed and explain the process you did follow. The doctor enters into denial that your process would never work and then terminate you as a patient. I've experienced this twice and remain prescription drug free.

[@keinokfarang851]

Yeah,I had that experience today with a NP. I learned more on KZbin about what needs to be done for Type 2 than anything coming out of their mouth.

[@hockeymomavalon2499]

Good for you!

[@Ulbre]

Exactly and when these video's add their disclaimer to consult with your physician before making any changes they are setting you on a path of futility because very doubtful any doctors would agree.

[@mdbontrager]

@@Ulbre I too have been terminated by a Dr. and I'm currently expecting to be terminated by another soon on a different issue. The first time around, my research and rebellion actually saved my life according to the 2nd opinion I received from a foreign educated Dr./nutritionist who I saw outside his office. He would have lost his American license had he seen me as a nutritionist in his office. Just goes to show how corrupt the Americam Medicial System actually is.

[@louisaccardi2268]

A lot of these doctors don't stay up with current research. They are still using the same old hack kneed advice from 20 years ago or more.

[@barnaclebob7530]

I was a never salter until I saw this... I started Keto in Jan it is now Sept... lost 40lbIs(from 200 to 160).... but my blood sugar levels remained 105ish and I felt weak, maybe even dizzy sometimes... Until I saw this video. Now I am starting to get my blood sugar levels down like this morning... I got up at 8:00 AM took a reading and my blood sugar was 93. Then I took the dog for a walk and went to the driving range to hit a bucket of golf balls. I came home and took a reading at 11:30AM. It was 99 and I had eaten nothing yet. I sprinkled a little bit of salt on the back of my hand and licked it off. I drank 2 cups of water and went in the back yard for 10 minutes. Then I took another blood sugar reading and it was 86. Thank you so much!

[@Billy97ify]

Keto and now carnivore. I eat tons of salt. My blood sodium is at or below the bottom end of normal.

[@greggartdept]

I’ve been keto carnivore for a year and a half. My glucose levels are higher now than at the start of keto. 80-90’s before 100-110 now. Will investigate salt and water. Glad you commented on it

[@jimmyhvy2277]

When you are Physically Active your Liver make Glucose to feed your Muscles , so it should be Higher for a time , than go back down !

[@richardwhitehead4684]

The fluctuations in glucose numbers you mention could easily be explained by nothing more than variation in testing accuracy. Just for laughs, try testing 3 times in succession to get a sense on the variability of your meter.

[@melissal3383]

Do a search of “blood glucose levels elevated while fasted”. I wear a glucose monitor. It drops into 70’s & 80’s at night & during the day it jumps into 90’s then 105 or 110, even if I’ve not eaten. I guess the body starts making its own glucose so your brain has a constant supply of food. So we don’t die.

[@seanolivas9148]

For thousands of years, humans have been storing fish and meat in salt as a food preservative. Salt was our ancient ancestors refrigerator.

[@sukeywatson1281]

Salt is the basis for all vegetable ferments too.

[@Belltuck]

Mmmm! Salt fish

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@Belltuck - 🐟 👌

[@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions]

Yes good thinking

[@kayc.8283]

Been saying all my life, I feel better when I eat tons of salt. Every one made me feel like I was gonna die of high blood pressure (even though its been low my whole life). I learned the hard way to listen to my body. Everyone told me to eat breakfast. I felt better when I didnt. They told me to eat 6 times a day. I felt better with OMAD and TMAD. They told me to eat carbs and eat low fat. I felt good when I ate more fat and low carb. They pretty much lied to me my whole life. The only thing that was true was to eat my greens and get my protein. I always listen to my body now.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

I hear that .. 👌

[@arlrmr7607]

I have BP but my tongue loves salt!!! FINALLY as an old man I am rebelling and avoiding salt NO MORE! In fact the great Dr Fung says avoiding salt shorten life.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@arlrmr7607 / Yes indeed . 👍

[@mb8219]

So important isn't it...... all these guidelines everyone is forced to adhere to makes you not listen to your body and it's hard to unlearn all these things and also having to explain yourself....but yes ... I'm also learning to listen to my body

[@judylloyd7901]

@@mb8219 Guidelines are just guidelines. No one is forcing you to follow them. If you are forced, then guidelines are no longer guidelines, they become law 😁

[@lauragarofoli78]

As a patient diagnosed with idiopathic hypertension, I was told to cut my salt and reduce calories to lose weight. My insulin was never tested. It took losing my Dad a year later to diabetic and pancreatic cancer compilations to light a fire under myself and start researching for my own health. I am now a low carb/keto/IF person and healthy as can be. And I use sea salt in EVERYTHING, including my coffee. My BP is normal for the first time in years. Thank you for highlighting this issue! I never felt worse than when I had high BP and was taking in next to no salt (such dangerous advice, given all the systems in the body that rely on salt for normal function!) TY!!!!!

[@Kili098]

Can I ask what your meal schedule is like? I recently started a low carb/keto (more keto. I eat two meals a day and fast the rest. How long do you fast for? I’m also still on the fence regarding low carb being good in the long term. Goes against all my bodybuilding nutrition. Just wanting to learn.

[@lauragarofoli78]

@@Kili098 I vary my fasts over the course of the week. I do a lot of 18 hour fasting with two meals a day, but I throw in 24 hr fasts every week, too. At least twice a month I do a 36-48 hr fast. I usually allow myself a treat meal each month, but most of the time, I'm just not interested in it bc it just causes water retention and makes me feel sluggish. I also step out of keto for 3-6 consecutive days a month and add some high fiber, progesterone building carbs during dinner. I'm 46, so I need to keep my metabolism flexible and pay attention to how my eating patterns might impact all of my hormones. Dr. Mindy Pelz has great into on this, and Ben Azadi (keto kamp) has a great approach to flexible keto and IF.

[@Kili098]

@@lauragarofoli78 thanks Laura I’ve lost 11 1/2 lbs in not even a week. I’ve not been looking at calories, just avoiding carb rich foods going high fat and protein, cooking with butter. I’m going to cook my steak tonight in beef dripping with a little bit of broccoli. I may have had a cheat day on Sunday with a small dominoes pizza. Realising this will have kicked me completely out of ketosis I’m back on it this week and cheat meals will be rare. Im trying to fast for more than 12 hrs with the goal to be OMAD. Im excercising with body weight circuits so I don’t know whether (for building muscle) it’s best to a little before or just have I exercise.

[@meatdog]

I have eaten tons of salt my entire life. My now deceased mother in law used to scream at me for using salt telling me I was going to die from it. I'm now in my 70's, extremely healthy, normal B/P FOREVER. I still eat salt in everything. And, Noone to scream at me anymore.

[@elisafrye2115]

Hey gang, I’m about to give you some of the best Medical advice you will ever receive! Don’t EVER stay in a Rehab. Center, any kind of personal care facility, or a hospital (for more than overnight) UNLESS you take YOUR OWN FOOD. Their “ Healthy Diets” will kill you! I’ve visited numerous friends and relatives in those dietary hellholes on special “ Cardiac/ Diabetic Diets” composed of low sat fats, overcooked vegetables, CORN, high carbs, high seed oils, and extreme-low sodium foods. I saw FRUIT COCKTAIL brought for dessert for a diabetic friend with a broken hip...AND a BG of 165. Etc, etc. And how ‘ bout that ubiquitous instant chocolate pudding? ‘. Any time you visit a “ care facility” of any kind pay special attention to what they feed The Inmates. I The bottom line is ignorance combined with the need for providing the cheapest food. (Corn oil and canned fruit is way cheaper than what WE know humans ought to eat) . 😳 It is a disgrace, and it is TERRIFYING. I think I’d rather die in the street than be locked up for 2 weeks in one of those places. 😱

[@danielmatuska795]

Absolutely my experience too! I had quarrels with both the doctors and the "diet experts".

[@MyUltimateStuff]

Amen to this!

[@tallowturq]

Indubitably. I was in hospital last year for a week. I came out fully addicted to carbs. They don’t feed you enough fat, so if you’ve been low carb for a while you’re never satisfied with their carb/sugary meals and down the corridor are all the biscuits you can eat. A bad bad situation for a recovering carb addict.

[@RonaldGuest-ct6xq]

I was forced to rehab for passing my drug tests I gained 45 pound s now I have all kinds of health problems mayer arizona

[@lnwmelon]

I am currently at BYU education week attending Dr. Bikman’s class. I’m also a heart patient with high blood pressure and hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. What I’m learning from Dr. Bikman is turning my world upside down. This is all so new to me.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

After all these decades of mainstream medical, is society healthier or not? They do not have our best interests at heart. They are in bed with Big Pharma. Yes, it is a paradigm shift, an internal earthquake, but you are not alone in this journey. You do have to seek it out though. Dr Bikman will lead you to other reliable sources.

[@Missjiji33]

They told you to cut salt, but never tell to cut sugar.

[@JohnnyBGoode215]

I was told to NOT completely cut out carbs. Now that I'm on keto, I feel great! Almost no carbs an it reverses type 2 diabetes. Only proves doctors are about visits and prescriptions.

[@judylloyd7901]

@@JohnnyBGoode215 Don't be so quick to judge with such sweeping statements. Doctors are operating on the medical information they were taught at medical school. They are culpable only for the fact that they do not keep up with the latest science on nutrition and health. Most doctors genuinely want to help their patients.

[@judylloyd7901]

Jennifer Lumagto, Perhaps doctors assume that is information you already have! After all, most people are embarrassed to admit that they eat too much sugar, so they know that they shouldn't.

[@JohnnyBGoode215]

@@judylloyd7901 No, they don't. They just want to address the symptoms, sell tests and prescriptions, and have a continual revenue stream from perpetual sickness. They are all about profit centers and impersonal, sterile care. They pretent to be sympathetic, but it's all a front. They only care about themselves and their clique of upper tier earners. Big money, big egos.

[@cactuscanine3531]

Be wary of people using the word “never”.

[@uldi1s]

Thank you for confirming what I've come to understand empirically for years! I have always been very athletic, very much into sports. Three years ago I had a high blood pressure problem, went to the hospital twice. A "normal" doctor saw me first and analysing everything said I should stop my active lifestyle, that at my age (almost 60) I shouldn't do any activity that makes me sweat much. I sweat a lot, and when sweating is a big part of your life you come to understand the differences in the taste and quantity of it and the effects on body recovery/cramps and in this case high blood pressure (BTW, it turns out the pressure was because it was a highly stressful period of my life) So I asked for a different doctor. This other one was a sporty one, a surfer, and he confirmed I was not doing anything wrong. Congratulated me for being as active at my age and recommended getting rid of the stress in my life. Which I did. Problem sorted. I still eat a healthy amount of salt and have no more problems :)

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

This video is just what I needed. I recently lost a few pounds (not many) after about a YEAR of intermittent fasting and OMAD (One Meal A Day). As soon as those pounds came off I started feeling lightheaded and my constipation became worse. Also, I just feel tired all the time. All of these symptoms, the lady in the video said are associated with low salt intake. So immediately, I am seriously increasing my salt intake. I know my weight will go up because I will indeed retain more water but at least I'll be able to rejoin the human race. This tiredness and lightheadedness are for the birds, for REAL!

[@fallingleaveskungfu]

As individuals, we are the final authority in our own health care, not a doctor. I don't need a doctor's permission to make ANY decision regarding my health.

[@-astrangerontheinternet6687]

What you say is true. However, a consideration and a thing that needs to change- Insurance companies determine whether you are covered and what you are covered for. Doctors prescribe treatment according to benefits and coverage. If a certain med is prescribed, but rejected by the patient the insurance company may deem the patient non compliant and reject their insurance claims. It’s awful. Doctors aren’t even their own authority and they need permission from insurance companies.

[@js8213]

Exactly

[@divin777]

The vaccines guys are telling otherwise .. ..

[@pashabederov]

100% agreed, 2 years, no carbs, fisrt 3 months droped my blood pressure from 140/100, to 100/60, needed alot of salt to stay functional 😅

[@googlespies]

No carb or low carb? Carnivore?

[@nickbardan3867]

I noticed that too. Very low blood pressure in low carb diet. Did you increase your salt intake ?

[@cshea2858]

I went low carb and increased salt intake. BP 90/60

[@nickbardan3867]

@@cshea2858 I just got a reading of 90/55. Can this be healthy ?🤔

[@googlespies]

@@nickbardan3867 Mine is around 100/60 all the time (when I take my BP in the morning) and I feel good. If you're a good weight, healthy, and move (exercise) a lot, then I'd say yes.

[@helendillard7784]

Love and thank you for your public service, Dr.Ben! You are a humble and brilliant man!

[@DianneElizabeth64]

If I feel the slightest bit of anxiety, it always coincides with me not having had salt & water. Once I was in a full blown panic attack that was 4 hrs in. I had my husband dump Redmond’s salt in a quart jar with water. I gulped it down. Within minutes, it was gone. Game changer. I haven’t had an anxiety attack since. I can sprinkle salt straight in my tongue if I need to. My dr told me that he has heard salt has worked for other patients

[@cwlj16]

I spent a year or two convinced I was having panic attacks and extreme anxiety to the point I went on medication because it was affecting my life...... later through trial and error realized it was electrolyte or salt related because I do intermittent fasting a lot.

[@yelenaangeleski3354]

This is invaluable information for anyone (like me) with insulin resistance! Thank you all so much for teaching us what our doctors don't know.

[@sismarin]

I love in the sauna state (Florida), Salt keeps us alive down here.

[@laurasc84366]

I LOVE THIS!! Finally! I Wish my smart friends and Doctors that keep doubting my keto journey would hear what I do. I drink approx 5000 mg of sole in water a day, ...Keto x 1.3 years, down 65 lbs and still going....Never hungry, never unsatisfied....

[@karenf9137]

Salt is essential. The ancients were paid with salt. Btw, real salt has important trace minerals.

[@C_R_O_M________]

Salt was as valuable as gold because it was used for preserving food. Refrigeration and capitalism brought its price and overall value down.

[@cincin4515]

The word salary was either Latin or Roman for salt.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@cincin4515 Romans used Latin

[@js8213]

Exactly

[@DeviatingVapors]

definitely essential, just watch the animals. they seek out salt sources. and clean water. to give the medics a touch of credit, bad salt (most) and bad dairy (most) is actually good advice for the average nobody. what is much better advice is eliminating grains and sugars (refined) .. which will re-prioritize what we all should be eating more of .. healthy fats .. and getting more sleep. this one shift would resolve a giant pile of problems in western (and eastern) mindset countries. many off the shelf salt types we have studied since the 1990s .. even have extra ingredients like sugar, and iodine ... presumably to allow it to pour or flow out of the box better. not sure. how preposterous to find that trusted name brand boxes of salt also have sugar in them. same deal with off the shelf mustards. we looked into all historically used preservation items in January of 2020. wow. big shocker there. all failed to be healthy. don’t get me started on the synthetics or lab wizard stuff. .. and just so it is said :: there is no SUGAR in an apple or an avocado. SUGAR is a heavily processed chemical (often derived from grains .. not fruits. or veggies .. which .. makes you really see how little is in a banana) .. that should be outlawed. raspberries or grapefruit .. as we have tested for decades .. wow .. how much of that you have to eat, to see some mildly negative metabolic effects. essentially impossible to get off track with real organic food, that should be served garden to table anyhow. cost is a non issue. salt being bad is a myth. but bad salt is bad salt, and unless you are PAYING for healthy salt .. well .. our research the last 31 years shows, you are getting shafted. low salt .. is a recipe for failure. don’t even bother with salt. or sea salts. total waste of money. look for mountain salts. interesting discussions tho.

[@yiravarga]

WTF. I have observed this from experience! I had symptoms of low blood pressure, increased my salt intake, exercise, and fats, and wow, my blood pressure went down, but the symptoms resolved completely in just a month! Story is, I tried to increase blood pressure, and the result is that it lowered. The medical system is really messed up.

[@TheHoth1]

Honestly is there any dietary advice our Doctors give us actually not making our health worse?

[@mb8219]

I don't think so...especially in regard to nutrition

[@AnitaCorbett]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@ilfautdanser9121]

Doctors are useful in emergencies' accidents, heart attacks, etc. Everything else, most are useless for. They do tests and push drugs and know nothing meaningful about food

[@mpoharper]

Problem is they don’t run randomized controlled studies. They give people food surveys and ask them to answer what they are over several years. It isn’t science. Memories for what one eats even the day before can be tough without a food diary.

[@darcymunro8930]

Profits over people’s health wealth and safety is the health plan.

[@cynthiasymons]

I will start by saying that I am all for salt-and I’m inclined to think that there are no bad consequences associated with eating it, generally speaking (unless a particular individual is sensitive to it). And the results of this study are quite intriguing. With all that said, I would like to note that, whereas Dr. Bikman is absolutely correct that finding a significant result in such a small sample suggests a large effect size of a potentially causal factor, it is also true that (a) small samples are more likely to contain very disparate people in the group (which hopefully would be attenuated by careful controls) and (b) an outlier or two (i.e. one or two people with very strong or small reactions with respect to insulin resistance measures) could have a big effect on the final numbers-driving a significant finding. In short, we ought to wait for a replication for this study with a bigger sample before making drastic changes, if we are thinking about picking up the salt shaker again on the basis of this single study.

[@Lingallabaal]

After a year of carnivore, my morning blood sugar was 124. Per this video and looking up a daily requirement of salt for low carbers, I tried having just under a teaspoon of Redmon's salt daily, this is the second day, and my morning blood sugar was 109. I also dropped some wight on the scale, not quite a pound, but hey, it's hopefully fat loss. After a year on carnivore I had only dropped 35lbs, but had reduced a lot of inflammation. To have a little more come off because of salt is a happy discovery! To see the blood sugar drpp that much is wonderful, I love you Brother Bickman! Yaaaa! So happy!

[@carolesteinberg7463]

I eat a lot of salt everyday. I have low bp. It doesn’t make it go up. When I don’t eat a lot of salt I feel dizzy. I just bought 7lbs of salt for my prepper kit.

[@MrMrtesla]

I was getting dizzy eating low carb and couldn’t figure it out.. added salt and problem went away.

[@judylloyd7901]

Carole Steinberg, I hope it's not the general table salt, bleached and mixed with aluminium to keep it free flowing?

[@clairehachey2189]

Thank you for touching on this important subject. You are an amazing team!

[@Trd2020]

It’s crazy how they keep blaming salt. When in fact it’s carbs we need to stay away from

[@WhatDadIsUpTo]

😂 My last doctor visit, my doctor more or less gave himself a pat on the back after reviewing my blood panel, saying, "Well, it would appear we have your medications pretty much dialed in." I just smiled back. What he doesn't know is all the medications go directly from my mailbox into my trash can and have done so for going on two years! I have taken control of my own health, but I stay with the VA "Health(?)" System in case I fall off my tractor and need emergency medical attention. 😂😊 Also, whenever my doctor gives me any advice or makes any broad health claim, I ask him for clinical evidence supporting the advice or claim. Subsequently, my visits are slowly becoming visibly shorter and shorter. 😂

[@marianne1959]

Why even pay for thed meds? I just do the same as you but just never pick up the rx.

[@TheShumoby]

​@@marianne1959I think VA meds are free.

[@donaldmcleod7494]

I had severe leg cramps when I reduced my salt intake but a can of sardines with the sodium in them would calm the cramps within a few minutes. I didn’t need processed foods to get enough sodium.

[@_Solaris]

I always say, dont blame salt for what sugar did.

[@robinq5511]

Revisiting this issue of enough salt: BK (before Keto) I never really thought about salt either except in some foods that offered a choice(canned tomatoes, beans, etc) then I would tend to choose "low sodium". And although my BP was beginning to elevate (age, obesity & stress?), it got worse on Keto - as did constipation with occasional leg cramps from forgetting to take my electrolytes. BK I had leg swelling, on keto that went away. And although I lost 80 lbs on Keto, my BP never showed any improvement (stress?). I went carnivore last year and I increased salt by putting 1/8 tsp in my coffee with 1/2 pat of butter after seeing a rise in BG from the increased protein ( I drink this coffee most of the day - reduced caffeine). The BG went back down by adding more sat fat and my ketones went up and constipation improved. Also my fasting insulin went down from 9 (BK) to 3. So it looks like my IR has improved too. I am willing to experiment with more salt - but what amount should I aim for? Has anyone else had this issue and found anything helpful? Female, age 73 labs in "normal" range... Also how would you know (other than BP) if you have eaten TOO MUCH salt?

[@HoneyHollowHomestead]

I know this is 2 years old, but I think it's just what I needed. Been having leg cramps at night on carnivore, taking magnesium and potassium supplements, still getting cramps. Maybe I need to up my salt.

[@Tee667]

I’ve had to revisit electrolytes (7 months on carnivore). My potassium needs turned out to be waaaay more than I realised. I cannot get enough in food alone. Upping potassium has helped with edema. I need the potassium to balance the salt I NEED. I’m still experimenting with how much potassium.so far I’m at 3500 Approx and May need more. I’m in menopause and sweat a lot and this is one of the ways one loses potassium

[@sigalsmadar4547]

Try LMNT electrolyte packages to start. Eventually you'll learn to make your own.

[@Debbie-rp1pi]

Himalayan salt and Redmond's salt are all you need for electrolytes and in the correct ratios.. no need to guess.

[@billm.2677]

The required “work with your doctor” advice is often difficult to implement. Doctors seem to take the career safe route and follow those metrics of insurance companies and their own institutional affiliations. Companies selling drugs know this. The path of easiest resistance for those wishing to improve their own situations, is sometimes to educate yourself, find your solutions, then LIE to the doctor.

[@nowayout8773]

Most doctors don't know enough about HDL, LDL, triglycerides and so on. I did a lot of research on keto, lchf, carnivore and one doctor tells oh yes LDL bad, HDL good. I am nice and said but...the LDL is misleading because of the different types of LDL particles. I raised my HDL , doubled it, triglycerides went down from 200 to 89. Liver numbers are amazing. One doctor pretends to be a holistic doctor on the side of MD status and had to bullshit her way through my trying to be innocent knowledge. Oh mr patient, your LDL is high Me: yes but it's okay except for your pharma standards in order to prescribe statins.

[@kenadams5504]

Sodium is important to have enough of , but its also important to note that when sodium is adequate , with blood pressure still too high , it may be because potassium amout is not adequate.Electrolyte balance is important too.

[@dr.conniesanchezn.d.537]

I have been working at a in-patient water fasting clinic as a resident doctor for the past 6 months. The patients can choose to go on a SOS Plant-based diet (no salt, oil, sugar) instead of water fasting, or after the water fast follow the SOS plant based diet. I have observed many patients on a SOS plant based diet have dramatic decreases in blood pressure, however, it can take several weeks to see this effect. This study shows " two 4-day periods on sodium replete (160 mmol/day) and sodium deplete (40 mmol/day) diets."

[@danielmatuska795]

Ask you kidney specialist, mine says normally functioning kidneys will pass excess sal to urine, just keep water input up.

[@leaving1742]

You’re more interested in researching and helping me so of course I’ll listen to you and yes of course listen to the doctor if she has enough time to check my diet during my 15 minute visits

[@kkrenken895]

Telling us to consult with our doctors is telling us to continue the bad behaviors that made us sick in the first place. I am in charge of my own health now

[@suzyq3225]

They only say to consult your doctor & they are not giving you medical advice, because they will get in big legal trouble if they don't say it.

[@kyleb2044]

Randomly came across this video. I generally eat low carb. Lately I eat salt straight from the shaker when I feel a little off. I naturally have low blood pressure/low heart rate. There's a lot of low carb food that when you think about it are basically salt free, so I balance that with just eating salt. It's very noticeable the difference in energy I seem to have. *I never ate low salt, now it can feel like a lot

[@cincin4515]

When I was a little kiddy, my mother warned me that I would die of hardened arteries before I was 12. I craved salt, ate it from the shaker, crusted my food with it and still use quite a bit at nearly 60.

[@rey3472]

My mother said the same things. I even enjoyed eating ice cubes sprinkled with salt. Many years later I failed an ACTH stim test. That tests your adrenal function. If someone is adrenal insufficient, withholding salt is fatal.

[@cates_keto]

What a brilliant video. I notice I have had to increase my salt significantly while on keto. It’s wonderful as without salt at the beginning I felt a little faint. I also introduced the other electrolytes. 😅🎉❤

[@natalliask]

So true, seeing it in real life , after people see their cardiologists and follow their advice consuming less salt and fat , controlled diabetes becomes a huge problem….

[@TheMinot60]

I’m a new type two diabetic on keto about 2 months now and so far loving the weight loss. I’m also an RN of 30 years and so I checked out your stated source. Pretty wobbly one paragraph paper with an “assumed” outcome on patients without dm or htn. Also, similar articles listed below argued the other way. I agree dietary recommendations need major upgrades, and I agree salt will not increase every persons blood pressure. The kidney is supposed to balance sodium so that doesn’t happen, but there are people who do not have that function working and WILL blow up with salt. Let’s not even start on end stage renal patients.

[@Hornet135]

You’re being ridiculous, or rather have been indoctrinated for too long.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

May you choose to reverse your type 2 (Dr Ken Berry and low carb down under channel are good places too start). Check out the stories of patients in kidney failure who have reversed their disease with a carnivore diet.

[@yanostropicalparadise755]

i didn't need this study to know that we need lots of salt, history is all i needed, salt was a trade for a reason, we need it like we need food. animals eat lots of salt for a reason. i eat a lot of salt even so i don't think i eat enough.

[@keinokfarang851]

The prescription pad is used as a cudgel to force compliance with erroneous beliefs.

[@LoveSumsItUp]

Exactly what the docs did to me. I was dehydrated and high blood pressure- I 1/2 dose bp med sent me to the er, high blood sugar, tachycardia and they told me watch my salt….I was already low salt. I finally took some salt and my muscles relaxed and I lived. I am no sugar low carb diet. I should not have had high blood sugar.

[@sharonfoust-mills936]

If you print the study and take to your doctor, most doctors in the US will argue with you and try to find flaws in the study. Most won't admit they are wrong, the doctor to keep is the one who will examine it and admit it's possibly true.

[@EarmuffHugger]

All I know is I salt my beef fat trimmings & eat approx 70/30 protein to fat ratio & skin tags, moles, warts are falling off. Well wishes ❤️

[@helensmits842]

There was no mention as to the type of salt the participants were using. Was it iodized table salt, or sea salt, or pink Himalayan salt? What sort of iodine is added to iodized table salt? could that be a factor in these findings? Speaking of our doctors and our pharmaceutical industry in general, people are greatly influenced (intimidated) by authority. The book "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion, Revised Edition" by Robert Cialdini states that "once a legitimate authority has given an order, subordinates stop thinking." (page 208). In short we have experienced an abuse of power and we need to learn how to reclaim it.

[@alxdava2004]

You should consume salt extract from earth, not sea which is depleted of minerals and full of plastic and modern toxins. Iodine you can find separately.

[@DonaldF73]

for those of us who have some hearing loss. It would be great if they increased the volume somewhat

[@DonaldF73]

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC I already use head phones at full volume

[@DonaldF73]

@Christopher Lohman Hi there yes I use headphones all the time at full volume thanks for your interest and reply

[@Debbie-rp1pi]

Buy a speaker for your device

[@divadyrdnal]

Very interesting, thank you Dr Bikman! You may have the “unique” advantage of not going to medical school and having to “un-learn” so many things...maybe just a lower level of bias?

[@chitchitta]

I'm Dr . Premalatha Vijayakumar from South India... Please talk about salt , protein leak and kidney diseases...

[@patvb3243]

Fantastic info, thank you all !

[@-gina1114]

Thank you so much for this information! I am a Type 2 Diabetic. First time viewer of your channel. Have Liked, Subscribed, and Hit the Notification Bell!

[@JamesSmith-pc6bh]

It's not the salt that causes high blood pressure. At least not for me. I had/have high blood pressure, overweight, etc. I couldn't eat salt. I started keto and stopped eating sugar. My blood pressure came down and I was able to eat salt again without it raising my blood pressure. Still losing weight and FIGHTING the sugar.

[@geoffreylevens9045]

Good thing I wasn't in that study! My blood pressure has always been in the ballpark of 105/55. I tested insulin years ago and it was 4 mIU/mL. 2 months into keto diet and though I have not yet tested fasting insulin fasting glucose runs in low 70's and postprandial glucose mid 90's. My sodium intake for the past 15 or more years has been about 650 mg/day from all sources. Since going on keto, and NOT adding salt, my bp has increased to around 135/70..... I have not had any keto flu symptoms though consistently in deep ketosis per KetoMojo monitor.

[@geoffreylevens9045]

I added potassium (chloride) to my sodium salt and my bp came right back down.

[@highrzr]

Great discussion. When you go "low carb" by reducing or eliminating the processed foods, you remove a lot of salt and sugar from your diet. The sugar your body doesn't miss. It notices and misses the salt intake. Again, whatever the "dietary guidelines" tell you do, is the exact opposite of what you should do. Also, it's how they fatten up livestock for the slaughter. Lastly, the medical industrial complex has no interest in people being healthy. Their interest is in people being fat, sick and nearly dead and how long they can prolong these conditions to keep their money train rolling.

[@Bullochfam]

I noticed on a trip to the Tower of London that one of their bejeweled items was a beautiful salt cellar. Must have been important for them to have salt!

[@sorrykay3450]

Yes, salt was a very precious item back then. Heard of the expression 'worth its weight in salt?

[@PCgonemad-ih9pr]

I eat animal organs, raw milk, 1 full teaspoon of salt per/day never felt better. So much energy and strength.

[@wheetypeedy]

Animal organs are packed with neutrients.

[@judylloyd7901]

@@wheetypeedy nutrients*

[@wheetypeedy]

@@judylloyd7901 I didn't even notice until your correction. 🙃

[@anitayounger7630]

What kind of salt?

[@PCgonemad-ih9pr]

@@anitayounger7630 Celtic, or From New Zealand, not table salt

[@tuainua9434]

Being keto most of the last year and wearing a CKM, one day, I ate some salted peanuts when nothing else was available and I saw my ketones spike for three hours to 8 when they stayed below 1 before, even with intermittent fasting. After these 3 housers ketones reached between 2 and 3

[@ld9044]

❤❤❤ Dr. Ben!

[@dorsetboronia4551]

My endocrinologist told me not to come back. His advice was to lower my salt intake to below 1500 mgm /day. It made me nauseated. When I just had to eat at least 1 and a half teasp per day and told him he sacked me and marked NON-Compliant on my history.

[@nikkion2140]

I understand. I refused opiod pain killer after an operation to remove fibroids. They put on my medical record "patient refused medications- Non compliant"

[@dorsetboronia4551]

@@nikkion2140 well it really insults you doesn’t it to have that in your notes. I just don’t understand. You would expect to be pleased that you didn’t want opioids. Sorry it happened to you. As for my dr, actually I found him to be very intimidating. So suppose in a way I was glad not to see him again. But utter arrogance. My primary now looks after my Hashimoto’s and other autoimmunes because I told her didn’t want to see a different specialist. Fortunately she is understanding.

[@judylloyd7901]

@@dorsetboronia4551 Studies are beginning to show links between autoimmune diseases and chronic, low levels of inflammation, which is also being linked to insulin resistance. Insulin is the master hormone of the body, so anything that affects it will have results elsewhere in the body. Apparently most people suffer from some level of inflammation, so I would try to address that first. I've heard functional medical doctors on KZbin say that when they address issues such as inflammation, and the gut microbiome, people's symptoms go away.

[@dorsetboronia4551]

@@judylloyd7901 thank you for your reply. I am now transitioning to carnivore which I believe is the least inflammatory diet. I also have T2 Diabetes, Sjogrens, Dupetrens and Lymphoma. So hoping for some healing but doubtful since there are many conflicts with diets and these diseases. I have been keto for 2 and half years. Inflammation lowered early on but is now increasing. Thank you for your interest

[@gsts379]

@@dorsetboronia4551 It is about liability. The doctor/hospital notes that the patient refused recommended treatment, not to shame you, but so that you can't come back and claim malpractice for not giving you needed medication or pain killers.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

~ I was always suspicious of the "low salt" theory . Never seemed to make any difference in BP .

[@yanostropicalparadise755]

last year i bought 25lbs of sea salt for our family of 5, had to buy another 25lb this year. i think we need to eat more salt :)

[@carolynnmarkiewicz6015]

Sole is Himalayan rock salt in water. It has 89 minerals. You take 1tsp in 12oz water first thing in AM.

[@gsts379]

1 tsp of salt taken at one time will cause diarrhea. Spread it out through the day.

[@quisge]

This is my second time watching this video, and I finally noticed the "BOOM!" during the awkward silence at 11:30 haha

[@shawnmount2685]

If my doctor is still using 1980s research to "guide" me why "listen" to my doctor? I understand your position of protection buuutt...

[@LoveSumsItUp]

We are electric. When my tongue is dry I take salt. I take salt in the morning. Himalayan salt.

[@jamesgordon8867]

Lower blood pressure: weights and elliptical. Increase until blood pressure reduction

[@stingaw4142]

Good food is medicine Bad food needs medicine

[@1eingram]

They had to issue a disclaimer to always listen to your doctor. Right after they showed the conventional medical advice is wrong.

[@Fishouta]

11:00 absolute shock

[@davidmciver9483]

I have always put salt on almost everything. Wife says that it is an insult to the chef to salt your food before tasting it. I am personally responsible for lots of insulted chefs.

[@isolamar]

Very good to know. I noticed sometimes when I just wonder at first bite if it's a bit too salty for my usual palate, but after eating, I feel satisfied and not keep going back to kitchen looking for munch soon afterwards. Perhaps when my body has got enough salt, something so simple and undervalued, that just puts a lot of things in balance. Because, if I eat less often, that means less insulin secretion, right?

[@judylloyd7901]

Absolutely! 😊👍

[@Ulbre]

I understand that you (and most other vids)have to say "Always consult with your doctor before changing and medication, diet etc etc" ........but the reality is that if you do consult with your doctor they will just say "No, you need to to stick to the meds prescribed and diet we recommend".....so it ends up as a FUTEX...an exercise in futility in which you will get no where and feel like you are banging your head against the wall. In the end one just has to forge ahead on their own based on personal research.

[@G.G.8GG]

So frustrating because most of us are locked in to standard "health care" due to insurance coverage. For those of us with metabolic and autoimmune issues, this just doesn't work. Surely this has to be frustrating for the providers also, when labs look "within range" but the patient is still saying I feel awful.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

You have a choice in how YOU take care of yourself. No doctor can micromanage your life. Follow Dr Bikman and others associated with him. Soon you'll understand who is telling the truth. Study for yourself. Look at the comments, at how many have freedom themselves from medical tyranny.

[@yazminetovar7870]

Dr. Bikman, can you explain what is happening in the case of people with chronic high stress (high cortisol sustained over a long period of time) and a high salt diet?

[@denisebotko7456]

Please make a distinction between salt- table salt has added things to it that are not healthy- pink or gray salt are natural and have a ton of minerals to support an imbalance.

[@MARTiALYOU]

My question would then be, how much salt does the average person need in order to maintain a balance? I always think about the diets of pre-agrarian culture because it would seem to me that our genetic profiles are more geared to functioning within a foraging lifestyle, perhaps in the realm of ketogenic combined with fasting periods due to food source fluctuations. How much salt, sugar, potassium, magnesium, or sugar did our ancestors get exposed to on a daily bases and was it enough for normal function? Have we forgotten how to eat the best way to match our genetics? I think so, and therfore we run into constant issues. Just my two cents

[@van123446]

I would suggest that the study May not have been carried out long enough for the body to balance itself to a low salt intake. So many people don't salt, and Seem to do fine. More info is needed. thank you

[@judylloyd7901]

Thanks for some commonsense among the controversy. Everyone seems to be very quick to condemn the medical profession. Their culpability lies in their reluctance to study the science.

[@jamienelson3470]

Thank you for this!

[@icecreamladydriver1606]

Do you have a video that talks about the other electrolites?

[@myxcapital4179]

Type of salt is the 🔑

[@225rip]

Thank you for clearing this up.

[@keithhaken172]

Amazing guys. 🤛✌️

[@frostfox1208]

Just how much salt should we consume in mg.? Before I began eating low carb I would eat tons of pretzels after exercising. Now I don’t get enough I think.

[@zorabw8948]

OMG, I guess they have to make that legal disclaimer but if I had waited for a doctor to tell me to do intermitted fasting, I would still be having 3 meals and 3-4 healthy snacks.

[@Moonstorms]

WHATTTT Oh my gosh in 17 minutes you explained how my father died. He had diabetes he had leg cramps and he was told to lower his salt he ended up dying of a massive heart attack because his sugar drop down Plus one.

[@dianbaskin8854]

Isn't it great that everyone says consult your doctor when their ignorance may kill you!!!

[@wendycarter5718]

Insurance !!! Ben Bikmen knows what he says is absolutely right ,but he has to cover his back !! There are always people looking for an excuse to make a buck or three !!!

[@robertwalker1849]

Bacon and Eggs for breakfast makes more and more sense.

[@krishnakishore9936]

Sodium 2,300 mg and potassium 4,700 mg per day. Are these sufficient? Do we need more?

[@krishnakishore9936]

@@aliendroneservices6621 Thank you.

[@benphartine]

Well done, thank you 🙏🏻.

[@urielwong]

Yes!

[@AlecMuller]

It makes me angry that my doctor recommends 'a low salt diet' when she has no idea what I currently eat. A 2017 study (Sources of Sodium in US Adults . . .) found that 70% of salt came from foods outside the home. If you only eat food cooked from scratch (like I do) and don't add salt to it, you're probably salt-deficient.

[@FlipMacz]

Excellent video

[@nataliegist2014]

I have done experiments on my self, I found that if I eat carbs and sugar my blood pressure rises. I consume a lot of salt.

[@JamesKing2understandinglife]

It is a strange time when you tube content creators must say that they are not Drs and that the information they explain so carefully should NOT BE USED and that they should consult with their Dr. who may be ignorant of the information that is being spoken of on the you tube channel. It is our job to educate our Drs????

[@livelearnandteach7402]

A few months ago I upped my salt consumption and by the end of the first month my BP went down.