Insurmountable: A Sidearm Finally Gets the Void Combo and PvP’s Odd Roll Shines?

Insurmountable won't be for everyone. Remember, certain perk combos could take years to come back if at all. This has some things that are worth picking up. In this review I talk about what is good about it for PvE and PvP. PvE is pretty straight forward. PvP, I found that a forgotten playstyle gets revived.
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[@CoolGuyGames]

Thoughts on it?

[@bonefat21]

You three-tapped me at 3:38. Side note, you can see me dealing with the worst stick drift I have ever experienced in my entire life lmao

[@Langston42]

shoutout to the stick drift squad, I feel like I'm defusing a bomb everytime I need to delete anything from my inventory

[@darriangario3447]

Buy a dual sens edge

[@naylor7495]

@@darriangario3447xbox players crying at this comment

[@darriangario3447]

@@naylor7495 wut

[@naylor7495]

@@darriangario3447 you can’t use a playstation controller on a xbox..

[@miguelpopoca94]

Honestly, Destabilizing Rounds doesn’t feel like it needs a cooldown, but if they wanted, they could try going the route of of Jolting feedback. Keep the cooldown, but remove it when you have a void over shield.

[@secret1566]

They would only really need the cooldown on primary weapons simply cause spreading that much volatile around is excessive for the game probably. Specials and most heavies should have it removed, but maybe a smaller cooldown on primaries, cause I agree it does somewhat hold the perk back

[@joshsullivan8527]

It's always a banger when cool guy posts

[@salvatoresammarco2419]

That's why he's called cool guy😂

[@VCXZ883]

Destabilizing Rounds could definitely use a buff. Honestly think the cooldown could be removed entirely and it would be fine, not overpowering.

[@SpartanWolf222]

For my Prismatic / Void Hunters running Gyrfalcons, I found the winning PVE combo on this sidearm to be Repulsor Brace + One for All. Similar to Firefly and One for All on Midnight Coup, once you go invisible and down an single target, the volatile explosions will proc another two enemies nearby to activate the 35% damage boost and you get the volatile chain. Much easier to activate and sustain than Surrounded and you don't have to change targets mid-fight. I still have a Repulsor Brace / Destablizing Rounds roll for my Getaway Warlock and Icefall Titan, but I was surprised how well this other combo worked for my legend onslaught run.

[@McSaucey_YT]

I've put 2k kills on my Rep/Destab roll. I've actually quite enjoyed this weapon. Took me by surprise.

[@Sobergamer61]

I’ve seen a titan wearing peacekeepers dualing smgs with both harmonies. Unique. Very niche.

[@Blizzard1508]

@CoolGuy you've always talked about weapons as tools, filling a specific roll and playstyle. I'm in desperate need to clean out my vault, and need to narrow things down to what does the roll best. So I was wondering, what are the tools in your toolbox? Maybe you can make a video about that as a change up from your typical reviews (which are fantastic BTW)?

[@CoolGuyGames]

good idea. Towards the end of the season I might do that.

[@Blizzard1508]

@CoolGuyGames awesome! To add context: I'm really interested in the list of tools, not necessarily their "brand" (aka the actual gun name and roll,). The brand will change as better guns are released. What stays constant? Maybe a legendary tool to do sustained damage on a chunky target (currently braytech werewolf KT RR) or the fastest ADS sniper in PVP (currently Mechabre). To keep the analogy, I know I need a hammer and a screw driver, but maybe I'll learn that I also need to find and keep an angle grinder that I didn't know was a thing I should look for.

[@GeremyG]

Always great to see a new review from you even when I haven’t played the game in months.

[@Zomb33]

Personally, I have a hard time using a sidearm unless it plays well into my build and repulse/destabilize doesn't do it for me. With devour, I don't see the value in an overshield, so demo/surrounded is a dream. Chunky damage and grenades back in 5 kills with devour up is unbeatable.

[@Dom-df7lr]

That thing was melting me it’s always fun being able to play against you

[@blackstreak02]

SO MUCH SHOTTYS AND FUSIONS I CANT ENJOY SMGS AND SIDEARMS ANYMORE

[@Xanderj89]

Sounds like normal destiny tbh

[@parliamentfilms8677]

Use a hand cannon ;)

[@fotis3v480]

Fusions' shotguns can still get rolled easily. Fusions destroy the entire game, the entire trials weekend pretty much 65% of my total deaths were fusions.

[@timothylane3196]

Yeah the special meter needs to comeback asap.

[@l.4165]

Dummkopf

[@MuhammadAli-qk2fe]

I still remember your new purpose video with steady hands and harmony swapping off to a harmony forgiveness. I had some fun with that setup back then.

[@burton528hz]

The double harmony build in pvp is so fun when you get it rolling.

[@kidneystone1345]

funny that bungo prefers to make new frames than give us a void Adaptive sidearm

[@Mefirst.349]

CoolGuy! One of my favorite destiny 2 KZbinrs.

[@PennytheWiseVids]

Just throwing this out there, harmony for me is one of my favourite perks on a sidearm, but lost a lot of value with special ammo nerfs. Having two sniper shots ready to go and then being able to swap to a sidearm and get into a sort of rhythm or flow with the two felt great. But now it's a really punishing combo to try and make work 😅

[@medical_ninja6020]

I wanted a demo / destabilizing roll for my Nezarec's warlock and I landed it after a short time. I quite enjoy it. I'm hoping to see sidearms back in the artifact soon.

[@kenrocker7427]

Why not bring our tricksleeves with a harmony sidearm build?

[@mybrutaltruth9359]

Hope all is well with you and yours young man, always wishing your health stays and gets better and better... RibbitRibbit says IFrogl

[@TheFawse]

I’ve never been much of a Harmony enjoyer, I find that my kill perks are better suited on the gun that I’m using at that moment. For example, if I’m in a position to get a kill with my pulse then I’m not typically in a position to swap to my sidearm, I’m likely playing longer sections of the map and swapping to a sidearm would mean needing to then run into a tighter section. I’d prefer to keep running my Swift Verdict with Surplus and KC, and a 390 or 340 pulse with something like Kill Clip or Tricorn

[@rhyshuber9981]

I also just think that volatile itself is so far behind jolt ignitions and shatter. That’s before you even get into the state of destabilizing rounds

[@AceInTheSpade]

Double Desperate measures loadout would be just as good, imo if you have a radiant build to proc it all the time. Because DM procs on weapon and ability kills which give 2 stacks 20% DMG on abilities. With x1 DM + radiant is equivalent as well. Where is Harmony is limited to weapon kills.

[@justsomeguy2142]

I run double harmony primaries (primarily smgs) in pvp every now and then and then made the distinction when experimenting with double desperate measures that the other weapon running DM can proc even while stowed which puts it a notch over double harmony since you need both a good weapon stat wise and for it to get a down. I can peregrine shoulder charge and have max stacks of DM on both weapons with the ability to refresh even on a simple uncharged melee which is very much doable for players of all skill level

[@AceInTheSpade]

@justsomeguy2142 Nice. Yeah, a lot of people dont realize DM procs one place it procs everyplace.

[@TeamTechSkaters]

I think I still prefer double harmony ​@@justsomeguy2142

[@s7ngames]

1:04 lol my exact roll...I love it

[@curtisnielsen1399]

I have been using one with that detector and rampage and enjoyed it

[@MrMightyZ]

I assumed it was a two-burst because of the model. I’ve never even fired it. Kept one just because it had huge range and I’ll have a look when I get home

[@sammytamimi4777]

CoolGuy, would love for you to put out a "State of the Glaive" and what you hope Bungie's rework entails.

[@ZlPPENHAFT]

i main sidearms and precision frame are very good in pvp i'm still using the one you get from seasonal rank lone wolf + closing time and it's very good, the range of insurmountable is so good, i duel mid range with this beast

[@Tixrok]

Love these rpms that reticle isnt gonna replace cryo tho...

[@greystorm9974]

Ha, i just switched to this for pvp this weekend and going efficiency 3+ for Several matches

[@RobGThai]

I’d use it more if not for Autumn. It doesn’t help that Destabilizing Round is the way it is.

[@imstealthed1429]

I was excited for a new precision energy sidearm, but its recoil feels weird.

[@sevendeadlysins6430]

I was looking for lone wolf and harmony for a good while. I settled on lone wolf and closing time. Ive got too much going on rn to worry about perks. I just wanted something to use when shotgun apes are pushing me.

[@DaReapa]

Call me when Travelers Judegment 5 returns.

[@Crimson_Samurai-h8q]

This sidearm feels good

[@rmeng3]

Repulsor brace + destabilizing round has never felt good to me. Tried it on multiple weapons, i still see a cooldown between volatile explosions on kill, repulsive brace never procs when I expect it to. I picked up attrition orbs + desperate measures, and I think I'll get more use from that. Maaaaaybe one-for-all

[@jvsilky]

Mine with lone wolf and closing time feels good, but compared to drang and the autumn it can’t really hang. Too little forgiveness.

[@RedOfFlames]

If you want a sidearm, drang does still exist and kick ass also. Sturm und Drang meta when

[@helamananderson3992]

I just hate the firing sound of this sidearm and I’m weird in that a weapons firing sound is a huge part of whether I like it or not

[@TheGraffiti600rr]

Really not a fan of tonics. More annoying than it should be. My memory isn't what it once was, pretty sure that was the point of the psych meds from the VA for so many years.

[@julianlak1017]

Shhhhh don’t talk about vestian

[@zebrastripe665]

So far disappointed that the fantastic origin trait is largely let down by the seasonal weapon selection

[@JoelNaticchioni]

Ah, I see you get the nuisance distraction "subclass" pop-ups at the most critical times, too. Pls bungo, STAHP!

[@stevensciore4728]

Forerunner - insurmountable (harmony) w/ mechaneers….

[@windwalker3081]

I’m just waiting on a side arm in the top slot that can roll harmony that’s not a 2 burst

[@muzak313]

Peacebond is worth the chase. Every roll i've tried feels amazing. Best of luck if you decide to go for it next week in Iron Banner. I'll be hunting for the roll that shall not be spoken of.

[@Superjump-tf6cy]

Ya good gun

[@Xander--gd5lb]

Anyone else really find the scope annoying. I feel like I’m losing my 2nd and 3rd shots because the dot is too low to the weapon barrel… Not a problem in PvE, but a massive turn off in PvP.

[@greystorm9974]

Yeah, it does have a weird "scope"(ads)

[@nightsinfinite]

Just couldn't get used to the feel of the gun

[@trogdor21997]

FYI precision frame sidearms do awful primary DPS in PvE so if you take this into harder content you’ll feel it. It’s literally worse than SMGs and they’re terrible right now

[@adummy9664]

SMG red bar DPS is like 19k~ while even the worst sidearms are still at 25k red bar DPS, that's basically an entire Rampage x3 difference. Though SMGs in general are falling behind other primaries now with the amount of buffs everything else has gotten.

[@trogdor21997]

@ I was going off of Aegis’ older sheet. I didn’t think anything changed with sidearms so not sure why the newest one is so different

[@Avoncarstien]

3:38 holy aim assist... that's wild

[@severex9851]

I think this side arm is useless.. my opinion

[@thealldayspecial]

I'll ask again, how are you consistently getting these potato lobbies in current year where people just let you smoke them with the population being so low? Is console really that easy?

[@jackburton6085]

Why does guy take so fing long to say this most simple shit. I don’t get it. Just get to the point man. I get it I really do. This is the story. This is my story, it really is. I’m super annoying, I really am. This is my script and I’m reading it, I really am, let me get to the point, some get to it, others don’t, but I’m getting to it, and I really like the point, here it is, the point, it’s really great, it really is, don’t miss out on the point. 🥴🤢🤮

[@alexanderross4319]

It sucks