Intel Lunar Lake Tested - ASUS Zenbook S 14

[@KitGuruTech]

Sorry for the spam, please report any as you see it. While you're here, would you consider a new laptop from Intel Lunar Lake?

[@raminpro9765]

your in depth,derail analyse better than young youtubers

[@iamahappybunny7640]

@@raminpro9765agree !

[@Eidolon2003]

I'd love to have a Lunar Lake laptop. The design seems smart, and a small efficient chip with big single core performance is right up my alley. The fact that the memory soldered does kinda suck, but 32GB is enough.

[@stefanaraharijaona324]

Definitely considering getting one. But for the end of 2025

[@PKperformanceEU]

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[@QuentinStephens]

Being retired, I am not the target market for the laptop itself but it looks very nice and I'm definitely looking forward to Dominic's video on the graphics.

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

Why does being retired matter ?

[@QuentinStephens]

@@thetechdevil-jn1vo These are aimed at businesses and students.

[@Bellestronsse]

@@thetechdevil-jn1vo They take your winter fuel allowance away for starters.

[@mirceastan94]

@@thetechdevil-jn1vo He doesn't need to leave the house so a laptop would be mostly useless for him. He's not a "traveler" student anymore.

[@Darknightsandwetdays-lb9ko]

Yeah it’s a good laptop for travelling. Huge battery life. Impressive

[@jamey-pl4ez]

cracking job leo - thank you

[@jamesjessenden7838]

Been looking forward to seeing a review of Luna Lake! Going to enjoy.

[@Alex-pc2gt]

The chassis from ASUS is great, love the design, low noise and OLED

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks for sharing

[@Alex-pc2gt]

@@KitGuruTech Welcome!

[@JulianTurner2019]

Battery life seems amazing on that, 72Wh would keep it running all day for me

[@jxblack34]

Hope to see Dominic follow up with a lot of game tests like the last time - was a good combo

[@KitGuruTech]

That’s the plan yes

[@jxblack34]

@@KitGuruTech Yeah!

[@riccardo9280]

Thanks Leo, seems you really liked this one overall, even with the issues - a stark contrast to the ACER one last time, thankfully

[@stevenbryant8445]

Great video Leo - loved the end analysis and sharing what other people you know found out

[@MelvinSteventer]

Seems like a well balanced overall laptop system - not going to blow your sock off in regards to performance, but the results are in line with a solid improvement over last generation

[@georgebrown2974]

Looking forward to seeing Dominics game tests in the coming weeks

[@SonyaRoseser]

Performance is pretty much as expected, but as a portable laptop is plenty of power - quiet too in the proper mode and that OLED is lovely - nice thin bezels too

[@antoniomarano7625]

Microsoft almost screwing intel there - but at least you found out before the video was published

[@CPU-Z]

Thanks for that review ! Note that the 4 efficieny cores are not E-cores but LP-cores. The difference is that they don't use the L3.

[@LeaMarions]

Seems like a good move forward for intel, performance isnt staggering but for the chassis like this makes sense

[@jamest484]

Always so many teething issues with new platforms- this one doesnt seem too bad - decent performance, and a nice form factor, lovely screen

[@RenauldClemont]

Battery life alone, its worth it. I have an older intel laptop. its much the same speed as this, but its hot, loud and has about 4 hours battery life. Working with TSMC was a good idea

[@PKperformanceEU]

Still nowhere close to apple silicon. U can see cpu idle power draw in the video, 1.4w is utter garbage. I had my m1max 16inch insane laptop that cpu idles at 0.02-0.03w and is infinitely more powerful on gen1 N5 than this gen2 N3 intel x86. My m2air was also really good and fast, with a 0.01w idle and had all day battery life. These youtubers are smoking something the numbers dont add up wifi web surfing the m2air lasts over 25hours in my testing. The most cpu draw i saw when loading apple website was just around 1w if i remember correctly. Maybe under 1w like 0.7w

[@infochannel8705]

@@PKperformanceEU I think idle power is 0.1W not 0.01W, but it is impressive

[@PKperformanceEU]

@@infochannel8705 NO!!! I used powermetrics tool dont call me dumb!! Its 0.01-0.02w occasionally jumping to 0.05-0.06w Im a ex computer engineer and currently in med school. Im anything but average to make such pathetic mistakes. 0.01-0.02w Just insansely efficient compared to trash x86. M1max was also within 0.05w idle sitting at 0.02-0.03w usually. MacOS has all the same core parking methods that windows has. Its clearly down to brilliant arm64-apple architecture

[@PKperformanceEU]

@@infochannel8705 NO!!! It was 0.01-0.02w i even have screenshot dont call me dumb! I used ASITOP. Im way to intelligent and have way too much knowledge to make mistake like that

[@PKperformanceEU]

@@RenauldClemont stop deleting my comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤡 I used ASITOP CLI and yes it was 0.01w idle not 0.1w !!!

[@HasumiImamura]

Good article Leo, you seem impressed - that in itself is some achievement

[@MaggieMorganar]

Looks great - not sure I am a laptop guy as such, but hoping their upcoming desktop processors are as good as this one appears to be

[@SarahBytesBack-s4e]

I was hoping you guys would review this one!! Great stuff, good article also :)

[@AntoinCook]

I love the design of this - but I agree with the port positions as Leo said at 07:00

[@ContraVsGigi]

That looks like skimming the milk, how much more expensive is it to even have a strip with a port on the other side (if not the board designed in such a way to have it there)? It would be a very well designed laptop, all the way.

[@JorySavanna]

Good analysis - looking forward to a game analysis of that chipset and integrated from Dominic later.

[@marco1704]

Some life in Intel yet it appears - but laptops dont interest me at all, hoping their next gen desktop range is strong, we all need competition

[@BrookesStevenson-vw4xf]

I like this laptop. Didn’t think I was going to. Bravo ASUS and thanks Kitguru ❤

[@LexieMorin]

Awesome video!!

[@MenjivarArmando]

I will come back to see the game analysis stuff later, thanks

[@VladamirColleano]

Thanks Leo, I liked your thoughts and insights at the end of the video, seems other reviewers havent had such a good experience. ASUS seem to have this one pretty well locked down

[@raffaellosiciliani4365]

Looks like the ASUS seems more stable than the lenovo one hardwareluxx got - interesting - maybe a firmware bios update will sort it

[@philipjfry628]

Now THAT is a laptop screen. What a beauty.

[@Eesaregood]

Looking forward to seeing more detail on that graphics core. That memory bandwidth is going to be really useful there.

[@AnthonyMichaelad]

Great review - Not often we get some positivity for Intel !!

[@SosaFereira]

Nice spec, killer looking screen - thanks Leo

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks !

[@lucasw4766]

I dont understand the thunderbolt concerns watched that bit a few times now

[@KitGuruTech]

The ports are next to each other and close together. When you have mains power connected to one port the other port has less space. For that matter. what if your mains socket is on the right, rather than the left. Leo

[@lucasw4766]

@@KitGuruTech You are Right!

[@Hudson234]

Thanks, good review, decent laptop, but its not something I would ever buy myself

[@taomahNEGEV]

What would you buy then?

[@festerleech4952]

It really is beginning to look like Intel have got hold of their power consumption issue and are taking the fight to ARM.

[@philipjfry628]

The battery life is pretty impressive. Looks like they have almost doubled it

[@harleylover9446]

Thats a really nice looking laptop tbh - very impressed with that. Only watched half of it but that panel is delicious

[@KitGuruTech]

Agreed!

[@CatherineN.Rhymes]

THe single core performance is better than I thought it would be - thats a pretty good result for this kind of laptop form factor

[@enitalp]

Someone mistook you for a tourist because the knives you're showing as souvenirs from Germany are actually Opinel, made in France.🤣

[@KitGuruTech]

Phew, thankfully I resisted a purchase Leo

[@ErnestEdgarer]

I love how ASUS make names up for a mixture of materials - good looking laptop though

[@KeelyVerarest]

Killer Laptop from ASUS - really impressive with the super thin bezels and that OLED panel. Nice and clean with not a lot of stupid RGB parts too

[@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp]

Thanks Leo. Love your reviews man

[@KitGuruTech]

I appreciate that!

[@EugenerHerron]

ASUS make some good laptops, excellent to see you were impressed with this one - at least there is no X86 emulation required

[@francishallare204]

after all the ASUS RMA support issues Lenovo > Asus

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

Great review mr Leo. Danke !

[@KitGuruTech]

My pleasure!

[@theonlyredspecial]

Great job Leo 👌🏻

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks! 😃

[@Daniel-zl9im]

nice to see hardwareluxx getting involved with you !

[@VicharB]

Definitely a better balance than Snapdragon, but I'd still go for AMD Zen 5, for my needs, if I was going for a new one today.

[@aleksandardjurovic4773]

Thank you. A great review.

[@Praireboy-hg8ip]

I like that laptop. It’s a nice design. It’s a bit expensive but most things are now.

[@dreschaffhausen5693]

You can say that again!

[@VictoriaFranki]

That laptop is so much nicer than the acer one you just reviewed. I am hoping for a comeback for Intel so there is plenty of competition going forward

[@DylanDease]

Thunderbolt ports - good on ASUS for making them full ports and not just USB C - I love having a few of those for fast external storage

[@Hugh_I]

Thunderbolt is an Intel trademark, that's why they call it thunderbolt on Intel notebooks. USB4 is effectively equivalent, but you won't get the label "Thunderbolt" on AMD laptops with USB4 support that can essentially do the same.

[@UnitedAlgorit-el4hy]

Great job, a lot of tech stuff at start need to sit in silence later and take that stuff in

[@KitGuruTech]

Hope you had time to enjoy it

[@MrJonas7]

I'd love to see the charts actually containing some relevant products, like the Ryzen AI processors or 8040U or something of similar uses and wattage rather than some power hoarding H tier CPUs, especially paired with dedicated GPUs for the 3D mark.

[@devonjohnson7501]

That is impressive performance and efficiency. Do you think it can game without a cooling pad? I would've liked to see 2 type A ports as well as 2 type C, but i guess that's because so many accessories still use type A. Nice review!

[@pixelkid4]

Can you buy those power dongles? thats a great idea

[@RainbowSunset-uq2hs]

Think so now.

[@pixelkid4]

@@RainbowSunset-uq2hs Right!

[@Blake846]

Nvidia buying Intel soon, rumors all over the place

[@TanyaJorno]

Performance is great - memory bandwidth means it should be good for some pro apps

[@DrediValeriya]

Did Leo smile a few times in thiis video, surely not!

[@SpencerHumffray]

Battery life is amazing !!!!!!!

[@AugustineLuisa]

I hope Intel release a new range of desktop processors, with good power delivery and none of the issues that gamernexus reported on - these seem like a step in the right direction at least

[@chromerims]

5:55 -- Anyone else wondering why CPU-Z shows "7 nm" for process node size? I thought Lunar Lake via TSMC was so-called 3 nm? A.k.a. N3B for the compute tile. (I know it's no longer a simple node-to-node pitch measurement. Regardless I am intrigued.) Excellent video 👍 Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks !

[@abaj006]

Would have been good if you compared its performance and battery life to AMD Zen5

[@DavidLeBon-qq9vr]

Really good looking laptop

[@nhanNguyen-wo8fy]

The price is similiar to Apple M2 pro 8 core 16gb now, the battery life is similiar. Pro: compatibility with software better than M2. Con: weaker in Multi-thread and less premium.

[@CarolynJenniferev]

Perfect travelling laptop that - looks great, not a lot to complain about - surprised how good this one is compared to the sh!tshow that was the ACER qualcomm machine

[@Diamond_Hanz]

Intel is back. Buy the dip

[@MadisonPash]

Hi Leo, you seem impressed. Would this work for your case scenario travelling? Not enough grunt maybe for Video editing in premiere I guess?

[@KitGuruTech]

I would happily give this Asus Zenbook a whirl at the next event Leo

[@YolandaShirleyer]

Excellent tech overview in a just a few minutes at the start of that video - the design is quite good but I was not a fan of the lines on the back of the screen area - weird looking

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks for sharing

[@KanonOomura]

Battery life appeals to me, as does the looks of this and the OLED screen. I dont think its actually that overpriced at all regardless of what some people are saying

[@AzizAwado]

Everything is so expensive now, its hard to buy any of this stuff anymore

[@rufusmctavish1164]

It’s a good chip that but it’s quite limited with what you could do on it.

[@pamus6242]

By my research anything that consumes such an amount of low power, the prices of these chips/products ought to drop significantly post release, I'm guessing its going to be super cheap in 6 months.

[@Q36BN]

0:26 LOL 😂 And that dead serious delivery 🤌

[@TarraKondowi]

That is a nice looking OLED - how bright does it go? Is it better than the ACER Qualcomm laptop?>

[@philipjfry628]

My thoughts exactly. The screen on that arm was just terrible

[@EvaMorris3718-g2z]

Are laptops something that should be updated/changed out frequently? I'm not super knowledgeable in tech but Ive been using the same laptop for almost 7 years now ... Would an upgrade be necessary for me?

[@SimonBennett-fw6zq]

Personally - if the laptop still works, doesn't overheat, doesn't sound like a jet engine etc. Then you're likely fine but it would depend on what you are using it for.

[@parker3715]

Meh, never buying intel ever again, hate them

[@Pavlo-l6d]

What about pwm?

[@WilliamKennethar]

Well I wasnt expecting this one to be that good - was the bloatware bad? my last asus laptop took ages to remove all the crapware from it before using it

[@KitGuruTech]

Nothing worth mentioning - good job by Asus Leo

[@varadillath4508]

TSMC has single handedly saved intel here

[@JonathanPilson-mu3rg]

Good looking laptop. Not sure if the lid pattern is meant to mean something. It’s not the rog logo is it ?

[@pixelrefresh348]

Wish it didnt have that lid pattern think it would look better without it.

[@IconKatus]

Intel Arc 140V - are you going to follow up with some game. tests on that ? Would be interested to see Dominic putting it through its paces

[@KitGuruTech]

That's certainly an idea 👀

[@eccentricbeliever7]

I badly want one of these but ASUS has such a bad rep for repairers breaking and refusing to compensate the customers under warranty.. their QC apparently could be atrocious at times too.

[@chrismyers6081]

I can’t believe so many people hate intel, we need competition from c ompanies so the prices dont go up too much

[@EricDavidson-cx7bz]

My last ASUS laptop was preloaded with a ton of crapware. Hope this one was different.

[@DaystromDataConcepts]

Can you disable the NPU in these new processors?

[@KitGuruTech]

It appears as a separate item in Device Manager so presumably, yes. Leo

[@iamahappybunny7640]

When is Dominic following up on gpu game testing ? I’d love to know if you can even play some modern games at 1080p at med settings.

[@KitGuruTech]

In fairness Dominic only learned about my bright idea today Leo

[@WirxawTanev]

Would love that follow-up comparison to AMD as well, because that TimeSpy score at 12:45 is a bit out of touch with what's supposed to be tested, because half of it is reference to irrelevant dGPU results and the only relevant iGPU result is of 4060 and that's for whatever reason BELOW 3060(despite 4060 having like 50% lower power consumption). And if it's tied to the CPU(despite obviously being linked to GPU, since it's an "overall score" of a 3DMARK).... it's all the more irrelevant, because it's all over the place, comparing U-chips with H-chips with iGPUs and dGPUs and there's no conclusion to be made from that kind of aggregation. Intel Lunar Lake, Intel Meteor Lake, Nvidia 4050, Qualcomm, AMD Phoenix Range(dragon range is H-CPU), AMD Strix Point That's what's up. With Nvidia being there just as the closest, most powerful and most relevant comparison to dGPUs. Because AMD is dead in mobile dGPUS and intel is even more dead. It's nice to see progress from whatever Ice\Tiger\Alder lake, but you may as well put the 14nm dinosaurs there just for the kicks.

[@KitGuruTech]

Your timing is impeccable - I (Dominic) am working on an IGPU showdown as I type this! Stay tuned...

[@PCPro2017]

How does the Zenbook S 14 compare to other laptops in this price range?

[@RachelLevvy]

Hey Leo I notice you seem to use an IPAD alot in some of your videos - what kind of mobile workload do you need that for? Would a laptop not make more sense ? 20 hour battery life seems good

[@KitGuruTech]

An iPad is smaller and slimmer than any laptop that springs to mind and is all I need for referring to notes Leo

[@samshawn4887]

Microsoft - such a mess really - are they holding anyone accountable for all the cockups lately with this hardware and AMD hardware?

[@systemBuilder]

You almost completely missed AMD Strix Point hx370 which would beat this laptop in almost every comparison! Notebookcheck found that it was Superior in almost every way except GPU!

[@KitGuruTech]

Matt reviewed an Asus with AMD HX 370 however I don't have the benchmark figures to do a proper comparison. Both laptops have plenty to recommend themselves. www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/mobile/laptops/mat-mynett/amd-ryzen-ai-9-hx-370-powered-asus-zenbook-s-16-oled-review/ Leo

[@timetraveler_0]

Microsoft (an OS vendor) in bed with chip design company (Intel) is concerning. We are at a point where a lot of advertised improvements of these new chips need Kernel level Windows apps to function. Core scheduling for eg. These gains evaporate on Linux. This should be OS independent?

[@moist_ointment]

In bed? Wtf? Chip designers working with OS companies to maximize performance is exactly what we consumers should want

[@dreschaffhausen5693]

Could be worse it could be apple

[@kaiseraugustus1393]

Why not 16" matte oled display with num keys without copilot.... perfect setup

[@Hugh_I]

Muum! Intel is doing it again! They're selling us new quad cores

[@ErasmusSarkis]

When are the new desktop models out? 2025 Q1 or Q2?

[@KitGuruTech]

Arrow Lake/Core Ultra 200 and Z890 land in October 2024

[@thesilverpittie9632]

I didn't know there was a Z in ASUS. Guess I needs me to go back to school for English.

[@coprilettodelnapoli5466]

It will have the same performance when not in-charge?

[@flexxx222]

I want that in a 10 or 12 inch tablet or detachable

[@NikkieUpshaw]

Intel have a lot to recover from Steve Burke lately - wonder what he will make of all this laptop stuff when he tests it

[@KitGuruTech]

I don't recall Gamers Nexus reviewing laptops Leo

[@lavaknight1014]

Does anyone know if they're sold out on the black colorway? I've tried going on the asus website but can't figure out on how to choose teh black version

[@freddieholmes5581]

Seems like yet another mess at the end of the video with microsoft- yet again, when will it ever end !