Intel's 14th Gen CPUs support AI overclocking and here's the difference it makes!

[@MrVoayer]

It is quite encouraging to see that Intel simplified the proces of overclockng by adding AI support ! That's great news ! Proper cooling was always the remedy of Intel's and motherboard manufacturers' antics. We can make both efficient and aesthetically pleasing with Lian Li's Reverse fans ! As 14th Gen CPUs an motherboards are yet to come I find this to be excellent introductory video on the subject !

[@mopnem]

This channel appears to stay putting out useful and helpful content 👏

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I'm trying

[@ArtFiendz]

You're effort doesn't go unnoticed. that's for sure.@@TheProvokedPrawn

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@ArtFiendz thank you kindly

[@kynooshino]

using ai overclocking my pc is unstable and either games crash or my whole PC restarts after a little gaming.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Really? That's interesting. Have you stress tested too to see if it's overheating?

[@kynooshino]

I got a nice arctic 360mm liquid cooler upgrade for this cpu and it keeps it nice and cool. I think my solution for stability will be to let the ai decide where I start, then bring everything down by a bit

[@Jaxon327]

Do a memory check

[@kynooshino]

Just incase anyone is curious, I think it may not have been the ai OC, my ram is advertised to XMP 6600mhz DDR5, I kept XMP on but lowered it to 6000mhz. I used the ai settings and have not crashed any games in several hours… Prime95 fails some “workers” at 6600mhz and says hardware is unstable, but at 6000mhz all is good. I went from crashing within 5 minutes every time I played a match to being all good the past 3 hours of testing so I believe it’s stable, and if not, I at least found the culprit to be ram related. Regarding ai clocking; Seems really cool, but I’d say stress testing with the ai clock it’ll always thermal throttle cinebench and Intel XTU, even with some of the best water cooling aio, but in games it won’t run real hot at those beefy speeds, so may as well let it rip if it ain’t causing issues. Sorry for the presumptuous original comment, I thought it was from the ai clock. Thanks for the video too!

[@kynooshino]

Another update: COD runs well as long as my RAM isn’t set to it’s max 6600Mhz speed (I left it at 5800Mhz with XMP staying on). I’ve seen online a lot of people showing that COD crashes with high RAM speeds for a lot of set ups and PC configurations. Some older games like titan fall 2 crash, and back 4 blood was crashing today, I turned my clock down from the ai clocking x61 to x58 and both are running with no crash now… wonder if some games just really don’t like that kind of speed lol Although after several attempts and crashes sometimes it would blue screen my whole PC, or even just shut right off… strange. In any case it’s much more stable after taking a hand full of cores down a few points.

[@darrenmckane3953]

XTU Ai slowed my system down according to Cinebench and UTU benchmark. It's now uninstalled and Bios has been fixed. Save Bios settings before trying XTU!

[@derekschinke2512]

Those "new" values are identical to the already exiting "Speed Optimizer" in XTU. like, your AI Assist values are the same as my Speed Optimizer values on 13th gen

[@currentlykent4593]

That's pretty nice the intake fans helped. I would've bet good money that would not have helped. Thanks for showing xtu AI oc:)

[@smokethatgameb9937]

Is anyone in the comment section using "contact frame" ??

[@bryangroleaupaquette2503]

Doesn't affect anything really 1 to 2 deg. To none

[@Akmt96]

I just installed one for my 14900k. Its hard to pinpoint the exact contributing factors, but i noticed minor galling on the cooling plate of my h170I along the top and bottom edges of where the CPU contacted it through the paste before i swapped. After buffing that out and installing the contact frame my temps dropped about 4 degrees across the board. It could be slight variance between my paste application, or maybe the contact frame helped. Either way im happy with it and im keeping it installed.

[@smokethatgameb9937]

@@Akmt96 same here, I can’t pin point what is helping to cool this bad boy off. I used artic mx6 and thremalright contact frame on a z790 msi Meg ace mobo

[@beyblade0430]

Honestly, I did some research and saw that some folks had their CPU’s bend over time due to the lga 1700 socket shape so I just bought the contact frame for peace of mind! So cheap and too easy to install for the anxiety it takes away, but I only noticed a 2c difference on my 14th gen i5

[@mturhan01]

I use a contact frame that I had when I bought the 12th gen and it did help lower the CPU temperatures dramatically so I bought one for my 14900K as well because I don't want to risk bending the CPU

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

I just pulled the trigger on going from 12900K to 14900K. Necessary, no, but the performance uplift and new features are interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing how my cooling loop responds.

[@CyberguyGR]

welcome to hell, still trying to find optimal undervoltage offset in order to prevent thermal throttling and 100 celcius on cinebench

[@cobra2994]

@@CyberguyGRbut why do you need to stress the 14900k that badly? More focused on gaming only issues I am having is it randomly keeps spiking

[@CyberguyGR]

@@cobra2994 I am not looking to stress it, I am looking to undervolt it as default settings keep the cpu at 100 celcius and it automatically underclocks.

[@Frozoken]

​@@CyberguyGRSet thermal throttling to 105c then it's completely fine so long as you're only reaching it when testing unrealistic full loads. Also try testing on OCCT, theyre good bcuz they set variable loads to help reduce power consumption while stability testing

[@RBFR01]

Intel should have AI overclocking on all of their CPU's.

[@Syron21]

Interesting fan thing, i didn‘t expect it.

[@Shadowz2X]

I appreciate this review cuz I just bought a 14900k and I’m so hypedddd

[@Mapantz1]

What are you upgrading from? The 14900K benchmarks are pretty dire when comparing them to the 13900K.

[@Shadowz2X]

@@Mapantz1 the core i9 9990k

[@Mapantz1]

@@Shadowz2X That's a good upgrade, admittedly. The 14900K is still very much a let down. If people upgrade from a 13900K, they've got more money than sense.

[@Shadowz2X]

@@Mapantz1 true but thankfully I don’t have the 13900k so I’m chilling

[@pinoyprince26]

Yeah I’m upgrading from a 10700k

[@jamesharris-usa]

That warning saying to set your bios to defaults first 😂 Well there goes XMP! 😂😂😂

[@aVesela3_14cka]

I didn't set to default sett and everything is fine with oc :D cinebech r32 2326 ,6.1 on P cores

[@Jaxon327]

So does this change your settings in bios and after you apply settings do you have to have program open for it to be over clocked

[@zerxvalo]

my cpu thermal throttled twice on XTU but then said my CPU passed at the end, is that alright then?

[@elbeetlebeasto]

i was looking for an OC tutorial and you just happen to have the exact same CPU, mobo, RAM, and RAM speed as I do. Though, I was really hoping you were going to be OC'ing thru the BIOS instead of XTU

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

I would put rad in top, exhaust out. Then the rest as inlet fans, exception beeing the one by socket as exhaust too. So bottom inlet, rear inlet, exhaust outlet by socket, exhaust rad outlet top. Heat wants to travel up by physics.

[@Werkzeug-100]

My 14900k was idling at 80 degrees with this overclocking on… It’s down to 35-40 now with it off. AI is a meme.

[@TheFruitingChamber]

Should use a thermaltake mounting bracket these lever brackets bend chips over time

[@magicianGOD]

Thermalright*

[@chrisz5z]

Per-Core Tuning disappeared for some reason with my 14900k. Tried reinstalling but never came back

[@nakildias]

Personally I’ve just reduced the core voltage by an offset of -0.05000v.. At first glance I thought it wouldn’t do much but it ended up lowering the temperature of some cores from 100c to 80-83c. In wattage before lowering the voltage it was going up to 350w after tho it was 275w so -75w and by the way the performance is pretty much the same and the cpu is still running great at 5.8Ghz on the P cores and 4.5Ghz on the E cords

[@Frozoken]

It's because core voltages affect on power is the square of the difference it isn't linear. Ie if it say used 100w with 1 volt, if you upped the voltage to 2v it'd used about 400w although that math doesn't exactly track for going from 350w to 275w. Make sure ur actual all core frequency isn't being lowered and especially that undervolt protection is turned Off in the bios. That feature is awful if you're tryna undervolt, you shouldnt be losing any performance at all but it sounds like u lost a little probably bcuz of that feature.

[@dobosattila3855]

Can we make an i3-14100 with 4 p-cores 8 threads by disabling all the e-cores and 4-pcores from the i9-14900? Just for fun and testing of course.😊

[@stormtrooper5558]

does it also allow AI undervolting? lol

[@Exothermals]

no just undervolt urself its way easier than overclocking

[@synaestesia-bg3ew]

​@@Exothermalshow?

[@MrPyroblastic]

It will be useful next time when you do anything related to maximizing performance to record few seconds of the system sound. In this particular scenario with your CPU @ 5.8 does the system sound like a jet engine with all those fans ? How much does push-pull config helps with performance-noise ratio ?

[@just_in_key]

Your voice is so calming lol

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

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[@shootloadrepeat]

Just to be clear, the Intel XTU shows you what your silicon is capable of, and can apply soft overclocks upon O/S boot....Can I take these settings directly into the BIOS to make the changes permanent? Or is it suggested to just XMP in BIOS and let XTU do the rest (but only in the O/S)?

[@darrendavies1102]

Brilliant blog thank you sir 🙏

[@stevenross-watt8640]

My timespy score was: 34086, CPU of 21950, GPU 37772 No OC (That I am aware of?) just shoved the chip in the socket and ran timespy. 14900kf, rtx 4090. My room temp was cold so maybe that helped?

[@cdotjgb]

I just switched my radiator from the side for intake to the top for my 13900k, do you think switching back to the side for intake would be better? Just got the Lian Li inf fans, all reverse for intake and regular for exhaust.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

It really depends on how many intake fans you have Vs exhaust tbh

[@cdotjgb]

@@TheProvokedPrawnSo I have a big win, I switched out my Corsair fans to the Lian Li. I have a corsair AIO so I use my extra corsair fans as a Push/pull. Currently have 7 Exhaust (because of push/pull) and 6 intake. Now I could switch AIO to side intake and put push/pull, which would change to 9 intake and four exhaust. Mind you, 13900k and 3090.

[@Reflex3745]

Hello, i have a Problem with my Pc I buy for 1 week new pc I9 14900k 4080 super 32gb ram 6000mhz 1000watt power In benchmark crash up over 100 degrees . And if i play a game 5min later crash only game I must set in 220watt power. Then is ok. Can any help me thanks

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

See if you have AI overclocking in your bios and turn that off. Then look at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYeoiZdjjNVrfLs

[@EmanueleGiuffrè]

the multicore enhancement function for i5 14600kf? Because a can't find It in my Asus BIOS... somebody can help me?

[@SolidSon]

How about bending? Is this processor also susceptible to bending? Besides, have you carried out similar tests and does it make sense at all to use BCF on 14 gen?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

It's not something I've looked at, but der8auer has kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYi9ZJhqgtySkKs It's still LGA1700, so it will be the same in reality. I need to get a contact frame and check myself, but he shows the issue is there.

[@SolidSon]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Thanks for the info)

[@Bostonski]

Totally doing it . Thanks

[@srenlarsen3148]

What ram is used standard speed before XMP overclocking

[@BipolarBLKSheep]

So I've just built a system with a 14900k and I have an MSI z790 motherboard. When downloading the newest BIOS firmware I saw that they've added a feature to disable something called CEP in the BIOS in order to allow CPUs to run on less voltage to get the same performance and therefore run cooler. Have you heard of this? I havent seen any videos referring to this specific setting and I'm curious if it really does make a difference? I have also heard that one should disable the "let BIOS optimize" function as well, since that tends to push past Intel established limits and supplies the CPU with way more voltage than necessary. Anyway, I'm specifically curious about this CEP thing and what it does/what the benefits are of keeping it enabled or disabling it. Could you perhaps do a video on it or just reply with your opinion on it? Thank you sir!

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I've heard of it but not tried it yet. MSI mentioned it's for the non-k series of CPUs though

[@BipolarBLKSheep]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Yes I did just notice that the recent BETA firmware update is for the non-K CPUs but apparently its been an option for the K series CPUs for a little while now, but I still dont see anyone talking about it. I am finishing up my build today and assuming I havent messed anything up, I will be messing around with the BIOS and running some benchmarks so maybe I'll try turning that off to see what happens. I still think it might be a good video idea and I also just value your opinion and knowledge on this stuff. Thanks!

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@BipolarBLKSheep let me know how it goes

[@BipolarBLKSheep]

@@-Highlander-42 for me with an i9-14900k, I believe it was already off, by default. I never tried turning it on.

[@SamMaki]

So you have 3 120mm reverse blades on the side radiator in the XL, yes?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

yes

[@SamMaki]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Thanks, in the process of building in this XL case and was concerned a 360 Ryujin III would look "small" on the side, but your build looks like it's fairly filled out with the AIO rad there!

[@gusmlie]

I have a z-690 with 13900KF, the motherboard does the AI overclocking

[@Lucifer-2769]

Am a fan of ur channel. Wanted to know if the 14th Gen chips are compatible with Z690 motherboards since brands like ROG, MSI, ASRock do say that they are on their website. So can you directly slap a new i9 14900K on a new Z690 MOBO? Cause Z690 right now is much cheaper than Z790 in my region. Pls do clarify. Will be eagerly waiting to hear from your end.

[@abn0rmal]

Can confirm 14900k on a Asus ROG z690 f-gaming works. I have latest bios installed.

[@Lucifer-2769]

@@abn0rmal thanks 👍

[@kaoz2907]

Hello great video, I bought an I9 14gen recently but I have temperature problems, does this new IA tuning utility could help to settle the right configuration in order to low degrees?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYeoiZdjjNVrfLs

[@MeMyself-gf7fn]

Thermal Grizzly makes a cpu mounting plate that might help. Use good thermal paste! If you have an AIO you could look into getting some extra fans and making it push/pull. Aside from that you will have to start looking at better cooling solutions.

[@elvoandro7087]

some z790 have ram cooler fan extension i think they might come in handy

[@kushagraverma9169]

i'm on a budget and trying to build a gaming and streaming pc , I have budget of i5 14600k and 4070 S , do i even need the K processor as i can save more money on the normal cpu and motherboard , as most i will get is 2 fps inc ? Z series motherboard are 250$ and B series are 200$ . i can move that money to i7 14600 . help needed , 1st time building pc !!!!!!!!!!!

[@zerokyoz]

definitely don't build intel for now. better build with AM5 platform

[@hobbit_on_stream3843]

I dont have AI Assistent Button on the left corner mhhh😢

[@nicksonlangsdorff5725]

hey! did u activate any XMP profile? or are the memory stock?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yes XMP is running

[@nicksonlangsdorff5725]

thank you for the answer! big fan here! btw, XMP I, II or Tweak?@@TheProvokedPrawn

[@KratomSyndicate]

If running windows 11 would you have to activate it again?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

If you're swapping CPU? It depends. Usually only if you upgrade the motherboard

[@KratomSyndicate]

ok just wondering, I did a bios update on msi Z790 Ace ( it was for these new 14900K's) and had to buy another digital license, sucked. @@TheProvokedPrawn

[@PizzlesTechTime]

On overclock my cpu is thermal throttling

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIGan3iImalgfc0

[@impuls60]

I have a feeling that undervolting with perfect AC /DC loadline set + perfect set ring speed would yield better results than this dumb program.

[@shaolin95]

What fans are those please?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Lian Li infinity fans kzbin.info/www/bejne/imO9hZJslNSogs0

[@schifoso]

That AI overclock isn't great. Your Cinibench score is a few hundred points less than i get with my 13900K.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Ok

[@JusstyteN]

Best fix is to move to am5, and im so glad i did ditch my 12700k and basically got rid of all the problems. Im on air single tower cooler with super low rpm fan profile quiet, efficient and fastest

[@aVesela3_14cka]

I love my 14900k , def no reason to go from 13900k/ks on this but from 12600k.... ow yea .... i hiting 6.1 MHz All P Core with 4 E cores , System only for gaming using manual + Ai OC Max temp 72 c on air cooling ^^ mind blow Cinebench R32 results on Single core test 2325 p

[@Frozoken]

If ur saying you only have 4 e cores enabled make sure you do one ecore from each different cluster because then they get all the l2 cache and bandwidth to themselves and also they can be used for gaming if it needs because ecores don't have worse latency if they aren't talking in the same cluster.

[@alltheboost5363]

My 13900kf z690 maximus literally did almost identical to what your 14900k. Im getting 6.1 on 2 cores 6.0 on 3 cores 5.9 on the rest... and 4.4 e cores. Don't really think it's worth spending $570 bucks.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Others have said there's little difference between 13 and 14. Still, if you've moved from an older generation and aren't experienced in overclocking then it's a good option to have.

[@smokethatgameb9937]

That's really good to know. Because I have no experience with intel @@TheProvokedPrawn

[@HollywoodEDC]

XTU is a horrible tuning program. Do it through Bios - properly. Having to use XTU can lead to a million issues not to mention wastes computer resources.

[@happydaydreamer1]

What was the point of this overclock? Rainbow Six Siege - 486 > 492 fps. There is barely ANY difference in this overclock, except wasting energy and rendering your system just a tiny bit more unstable.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

The point is it's easy to do and it'll be unstable because it's managed by AI and the system

[@Mapantz1]

The 14900 is a complete joke - one of the most overhyped intel generations of all time.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Is that right? It's certainly an iteration and perhaps a small incremental one while Intel preps for 15th gen but I don't see the overhyping you refer to. It's actually an interesting option if you're looking to upgrade from 12th gen

[@nossy232323]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Calling this a full new gen = overhyping!

[@jettsom]

@@habelincoln1665 Coming from an aging Skylake 6700K, this is a massive increase! I might be good for another 8 years! 😄

[@alrizo1115]

Not overhyped but disappointing indeed. It's just a KS version

[@ExtremeSwat]

@@TheProvokedPrawn I've upgraded from 9900k and the difference is sky high