My New Water Block - Time for 14900KS Direct Die

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

I always think it's a shame companies like Intel/AMD don't offer a special edition version that was never 'lidded' as it's the delidding process and the cleaning up the die that is the hassle, scary part and where most of the risk is.

[@Simon_Denmark]

You’ll never get a warranty for a delidded CPU/CPU without IHS from manufacturing. Are you fine with that?

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

@@Simon_Denmark I disagree, Intel's thermal management reacts super fast now if there's an issue and if it's physically damaged then yeah of course that's not going to be covered under a warranty and I'm ok with that. fyi, Intel is offering a delidded warranty on these chips to certain companies, which again to me just says they are worried about the chips getting damaged during the delidding process more than anything else.

[@TBiscuitsmx5]

Roman mentions in the previous video about intel working with some SIs. About selling builds with delidded 14900ks, which will be covered under warranty.

[@Simon_Denmark]

@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt They’re offering that right now for their current CPU’s or do you mean 14900KS delidded for OEM’s? I know that there’s been some delidded CPU’s sold by Intel in the past right? Anyway I doubt that either of them will start selling delidded CPU’s for normal customers.

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

@@Simon_Denmark The warranty is only on the 14900KS and it's only for a select number of OEMs. But what I am talking about is creating a batch of special edition CPUs that were never bonded to the IHS in the first place so that delidding is not even required. That would be easy to do, just take them off the production line before the IHS is put on.

[@gsuberland]

The reason the signal integrity is better when you leave the copper block further away from the memory traces is that those traces are impedance controlled as differential microstrips, which are top-layer trace pairs where the electric fields couple to the ground plane on the layer below and, to some extent, between the two traces. The impedance is based on the trace geometry and the relative permittivity (ε_r) of the dielectric materials surrounding the traces - in this case, the fiberglass between the top copper layer and second layer, and the soldermask and air above the top copper layer. When you place metal directly over the top of the traces, you're changing the transmission line type from a microstrip to a stripline, which significantly changes the characteristic impedance of the traces in that region. As an example, a 45Ω impedance single-ended microstrip (with a 0.1mm layer height, dielectric ε_r=4.1) suddenly becomes 24.4Ω impedance stripline when you have a copper block floating 0.1mm above it, e.g. if you press it to the board. That impedance discontinuity causes signal reflections, which will narrow the eye diagram and harm signal integrity, and the copper block also causes a significant rise in conductor losses - if the original trace had 0.5dB of conductor loss, you might see closer to 4.5dB of loss with the block pressed to the board. That loss alone may be as much as a third of the total loss budget of the DDR5 link, depending on the speed! No wonder it doesn't work. If you lift that copper block just 2mm off the board, the trace impedance jumps back to within 10% of the original and the conductor losses plummet.

[@dexterman6361]

Dang, I knew the tolerances were important but didn't know it could change that much, thank you for the detailed explanation!

[@Pseudomeaningful]

I am not awake enough to even begin to understand this, but thanks 😂

[@AffectionateLocomotive]

Me too

[@catalinneculita4988]

and that's why some ppl. can run 8400+ DDR5 with no problem and some ppl. that are very experts in DDR4 fail to run even 7600MT. Things change and you need to keep up with new way to undervolt and overclock.

[@olejakobaune8033]

This is some next level comment, thank you

[@coin777]

7:06 As a Polish man i agree we are good at this.

[@IceNinja2007]

Polska!

[@gbspikyfish]

I was going to ask if you could use a Slovak instead.

[@Scarlet_Soul]

And the labour is surprisingly cheap

[@DJKr15py]

7:14 .... I don't think that's legal, Roman...

[@thewatcher1731]

Lmfao caught that too

[@koford]

This CPU should be Special Edition (water cooling required)

[@trixter192]

It pretty much is. You would be a fool to buy a KS and air cool it.

[@madalinradion]

You will see a lot better temps even on an air cooler if you're going bare die, don't think water cooling would be necessary in this situation

[@nickshaffer7659]

Don't give intel any ideas next thing they'll do is branch off and make 15(1-9k) and a second run of 15(1-9w) for waterblock edition lol

[@koford]

@@nickshaffer7659 haha yea you never know..rolleyes. profit profit profit.

[@lookitsrain9552]

@@trixter192You would have to be a fool to buy this cpu in the first place

[@EliteRock]

When DD'ing I've now twice used a PTFE shim covering the PCB, of die thickness (minus perhaps 0.01mm), to ensure even clamping pressure and prevent pin contact issues from the PCB bowing up at the edges/corners. It seems to work well. As it happens I discovered this was a problem with the der8auer 9th gen frame, which is actually over 0.1mm thinner than the die and the entire mounting force/pressure of the cooler plate is exerted only on the die (hence people reporting POST, stability and memory bus issues). ETA >> bear in mind that with no ILM you have to ensure the required minimum total clamping pressure is exerted by the cooler, c. 40 lbs / 18 kg for LGA 115x (I imagine higher for 12/13/14th gen with the higher pin count) according to Intel. I modified the frame by cutting the centre out (which does nothing anyway, just bows up off the PCB) leaving only short 'tabs' so it holds the CPU in place when installing/uninstalling the cooler - without it, it would be easy to fumble when the CPU sticks to the cooler plate and trash the socket.

[@VFD4u]

I'd love to see gaming benchmarks for this beast, overclocked and direct die

[@djangoofyork]

It would be nice to see a comparison of your DD block once it's available compared to the EK, Iceman Cooler and Supercool incumbents. I'd like to see the comparison include max core to core temperature deltas as well as an assessment on the repeatability of measurements over several installations, things people have struggled with when using DD blocks previously. I've personally tried all three and settled on the Supercool in my main rig, even with it making loop maintenance more challenging and requiring >200l/h flow. I never comment usually as a long time lurker, so wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for your content.

[@DrHakennase]

We need an AIO Water Cooler for Direct Die cooling

[@metallurgico]

that acrilic piece for removing the glue is amazing

[@J.king87]

when is direct die for sell for 13th/14th gen intel ?

[@cliftonsr]

Roman this is the type of temp testing and research development in this industry I love!

[@GrandAdmiralHamilton]

Great that you're showing every step of the delid process including cleaning the die! 😊👍

[@NexGen-3D]

Really nice, last Intel CPU I did this too was a Devil Canyon, made a massive improvement on that one, the water block looks great, but should have some soft foam pads in the corners like the old AMD Athlons had to keep things level as you install it.

[@TuxikCE]

Hey, I've always noticed that you say that Hwinfo taking some of your CPU, but even on my little quad core CPU it barely takes any CPU usage, what is wrong with yours?

[@der8auer-en]

I adjust it to 500ms polling rate. Otherwise it only updates every 2 seconds which is too slow for what I want to test. If you increase the polling reate it takes more resources

[@IonutImbrea55]

How do you connect the water block to a cooler? Do you desmantle another one? If yes, don;t you lose liquid?

[@specialist812003]

I wonder what kind of performance we can see with liquid metal, copper ihs, frame corrector, and the ek delta tec block 🤔

[@andydbedford]

94c at 370w 5.8ghz. Thats insane! That just proves, speed doesn’t equal performance. When you consider the 7800X3D delivers on average the same or better performance in gaming at 65-70c 95w 5.50ghz, this is what I’m getting on a full open loop.

[@ChrisGR93_TxS]

3:37 that's not why the cpu crashed. Intel has really violent transients during thermalthrottle. The cpu is crashing by itself due to massive frequency deviations and thus massive transient spikes. Its just an Intel issue that haven't changed a bit

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

that got fixed with 11th gen AFAIK. The core ratio changing no longer causes massive transients like it did on 10th gen and older parts.

[@hudsonreynolds4349]

This is so impressive. You are very inspiring!

[@THANHNGUYEN-uq8zk]

where do u get that pusher to get off the glue? its in the direct die mate?

[@669Cookiemonster]

im getting old pentium 4 netburst wibes from these new intel space heaters

[@volvo09]

Yep, the old days are coming back... Little generational improvement for much more power.

[@idontneedthis66]

(inserts the Captain America "I understood that reference" meme)

[@xDownSetx]

Funny enough, the 1.525v core voltage he sets is the stock voltage for Northwood Pentium 4s. I do miss the 1+ GHz overclocks we used to see though.

[@szaszm_]

They were "only" around 200-250W, not 400W.

[@bryanrivera1528]

This water block is literally the last piece to my 1000d build. Any update on when it's releasing?

[@GoldPunch]

I came here for the cats but couldn't find them.

[@EinSwitzer]

Qtip silicon teflon gel onto cpu pcb get it hot with preheater then cool it down while applying more coatings then completely clean with clean qtips thermal as well as noise dampening for better response as well as efficiency

[@StrategyMasterSSF]

You should have tried single core 6.5 GHz.

[@bugostare]

The CPU is definitely still throttling, but it's just not visible in HWinfo. My 13900k (even with some things running in the background, including HWinfo and FanControl) gets 42000 or very close to it in Cinebench R23, at 5.6-5.5Ghz P-core and 4.4Ghz E-core, so there's no way you get the same score if it's truly running the P-cores at 6Ghz... It can be very tricky to figure out if there's throttling under heavy load since the reporting becomea very delayed and isn't fast enough to begin with. The CPU can change clock speed many times in one polling update (even if you set polling to 100ms) and it wouldn't show normally, but when it's lagging like that because of the benchmark you can't even see what you normally would, but the score reveals lower performance than expected reliably.

[@bugostare]

Also Windows task manager since windows 8 doesn't show CPU busy time or utilization, but core utility (like you can also see in HWinfo64) that's capped to 100% (yes it's kinda stupid, and not normalized) so it's not 5% of available performance or CPU busy time, rather, it's compared to the work that would be possible to do if the CPU was at stock clock (no OC or Turbo Boost) except it'll not show more than 100% (HWinfo64 does).

[@Spinelli__]

If it's changing clockspeed then how is HWInfo not reporting it? Even if it changes many times in 1 polling rate, the chances of not even a single one of those hundreds, if not thousands, of changes being detected by HWInfo is beyond astronomical. Of course there'll be a ton of changes that HWInfo won't detect as you correctly pointed out, but how can there be 0 changes detected? If in, say, 10 seconds, the speed changes 10,000x, the chances of HWInfo not even detecting, say, 3,000 or, I don't know, let's say, 800 of those changes is beyond astronomical.

[@bretthake7713]

Yep thought the same thing - I have a 360 AIO and my 13900k will regularly hit 40k in c23 at 330 watts. Why is sucking so much more power without any more performance? Is the extra wattage really generating "so much" heat that it's down-clocking that much?

[@Spinelli__]

Also, check out Clock'EM UP (I think Vietnamese or Thai channel). He does 6.0, 6.1, and 6.2 all-core with a 13900KS and 14900K and at fairly low temps (high 60s to low 80s) yet his scores are also more inline with DerBauer's. Something doesn't make sense if a "measly" 5.5 GHz all-core is getting the same or higher score than a 6.0-6.2 GHz all-core direct-die cooled system.

[@bugostare]

@@Spinelli__ Because the clock speed you see reported is just BCLK clock times CPU core multiplier - it's not really a measurement. CPUs constantly switch states and clock speeds many times per second, even effectively turning off when doing nothing (known as core parking, though it can be disabled). What you should look at is the effective clock, though keep in mind it is an averaged value, not an instantaneous measurement, and under full load this will obviously not report every single cycle as the CPU will be fully busy. Either way this data isn't just a reading of some sensor, so you can't rely on it fully, which is why the most reliable way is to simply test how long it takes to complete some known amount of work, that doesn't rely on polling or reporting or anything like that, and also doesn't require extra software. Sometimes the clock will be lowered long enough for HWinfo64 to report the decrease, but in those cases the throttling will already be very obvious.

[@concinnus]

Increased spacing off the board improving the memory signaling is probably not about heat, but about inductive coupling with the block.

[@shraf2kay]

Maybe a package with the die mate too?

[@AmaroqStarwind]

If you replaced the water with a custom formulated coolant, you might get even better results. You should look into what sort of coolants are being developed.

[@jasongibbs798]

So where can I get this waterblock

[@RacingPCs]

Lot's of fun doing these things...

[@deaddog2472]

HI. I also delid on 149 kf. I DID EVERYTHING SAME AS YOU. I used the grizly tool IL LOOP EK DIRECT DIE. the temperatures are 30 degrees lower...but if I DO BENCHMARK IT CRASHES INSTANTLY. can you give me some advice. WHAT SHOULD I CHANGE FROM BIOS? I'M ASKING FOR HELP. I CAN NO LONGER USE THE DESKTOP PC

[@AtramZelian]

why not set cinebench at real-time priority on task manager? it hardware monitor will not use CPU during the bench mark, and you will get a temperature reading right after cinebench is done.

[@siberx4]

It's so frustrating that with power densities this high and dies this small, the majority of the temperature delta occurs between the bottom of the silicon and the top of the IHS. You can have the best loop in the world, but as long as we're talking ambient cooling you're always limited by getting the heat out to the water block in the first place. It would be lovely if AMD and Intel would sell versions of these CPUs with no IHS and a silicon die thinned as much as possible (since the thermal conductivity of the silicon itself is quite poor compared to copper). They could either charge a bit more to cover the expected warranty issues from people damaging it, or simply void warranties if there's any visible cracks/damage to the cores. It's clearly possible, both because they _still_ sell mobile CPUs this way, and because both vendors used to sell bare socketed desktop CPUs back in the Pentium 3 and Athlon XP era. Being able to place a thin layer of copper for the waterblock as close as possible to the transistors emitting the heat would do wonders to improve the situation where your processor instantly jumps 60-80c going from idle to full load (the thermal resistance you can't do anything about) and then only rises 5-10c after that (because your loop is plenty capable of dissipating the power). We could even dissipate way more, because hotter water means more efficient thermal transfer to the air but you can't normally tolerate a high water temperature as things are now because it doesn't give you sufficient headroom because you're desperately trying to keep things below throttling temperatures on the die itself.

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

Oh my, the flowmeter from aquacomputer is way smaller than I thought. I'm going to buy this one also, together with the quadro interface to steer my PWM fans, and my EK pump. But I'm not sure to use the DRGB option, because my case will already have an overload of ARGB. I must say the temperatures dropped significantly then your other video. But it's concerning you have to use water cooling to cool the damn thing. For regular users, this will become a problem.

[@subamax8482]

Hello Roman I just want to know when the Intel's Mycro Direct Die would be available please. I just see AM5 model but no LGA1700 to purchase . Kind regards, Max.

[@killer01ws6]

Awesome results, I will be looking for your cooler, my 13900K is delided and direct die cooled, but it is a plexie unit, I like the looks of your better and hopefully will see even a few more C improvement, but I am already pretty low as I also use a chiller on a tank.

[@dragonsyph2557]

My stock 13900ks scores higher then his OC 14900ks, something wrong in this video.

[@mehck-gk9yn]

@@dragonsyph2557 it's pretty much the same chip you probably just got a nice bin

[@schifoso]

Why do P cores 7 and 5 (and maybe 3) always seem to have the highest temperatures? Same thing happens on my 13900K.

[@leftcoastfunk]

1.52V is nuts, as are the gains from this (temp drops, clock speeds, and power draw). Nothing like direct-die!

[@Spinelli__]

It's not 1.52v. Remember, that's the voltage before vdroop. It's probably in the 1.40-1.47 V area.

[@Spinelli__]

Are the holes on the direct die block far apart enough to fit 2 Koolance QD4 quick disconnects (without having to use angled fittings, swivels, etc.) instead of QD3? It's getting annoying how every block has their holes spaced so close together.

​ @der8auer-en Supercoolcomputer has two direct die block for intel 14, acrylic and full copper C1100 ( what they claim). The cost for SC block & delid tool on supercool are $140 plus ~ $30 shipping fee ( DHL express), that is without any tax or hassle, front door delivery. It takes 3 days to receive in located in Asia and within a week if located in UK. I wonder how much are yours since there is 19% VAT on top on shipping from TG. I hope Roman's stuff are quite better than Supercoolcomputer and the price is cheaper, $120 for both would be great . Supercool's coldplate is quite thin so you may wanna consider that. Can't wait for some more comparison. Edit: Nvm, i don't think this is gonna fly bc no ILM, contact is gonna be big issue. You do know >8000MT, impedance is very annoying to deal with. A $50 Torque drive is far from getting it down 0.05NM precise.

[@IceWarrior341]

When do you think TG will be selling those Acrylic scrapers ?

[@rohannfraser8503]

When is the Intel version going to be in stock?

[@bornagain2641]

does the direct die block come with the cpu delidder

[@JustinAlexanderBell]

Would it be actually worse thermal performance to have an o ring seal along the die and then a block sealing against that for true direct die water cooling?

[@jsunn6791]

Will a nickel plated version be available?

[@fengyink]

This looks promising - have 14900ks in hand - looking forward to the mycro 1700 block

[@Boofster]

Could you specify the bolt torque? I have a torque screwdriver and I think it would take a lot of the guesswork out of it if we had to aim for a specific value.

[@EliteRock]

VRM's dissipating maybe 40W on their own, must need a bit of cooling themselves.

[@danielt91]

You will have better results on Cinebench if you set the process priority to Realtime in the Windows task manager

[@Xfade81]

Pretty sweet tool that lasercut plexi

[@dim0n1]

Idea and question at same time: why nobody will do direct die air coolers, I remember old times of Athlon CPUs, where there was direct die, and everything was ok, and they was also super overclockable. Here I believe it will help to cool a lot to, and no water inside pc, problems with mixing metals, so super expensive water cooling ;-)

[@travismeeks3636]

No kitty this time?

[@mfrfpv9079]

this works on 12th gen?

[@elektronischermeister]

How is the procedure to dispose the metals on the wipes? It is not hazardous to the environment or health?

[@ThePurpleRider]

Liquid metal is most likely a mix of gallium, indium and tin so no worries about throwing wipes away. If you're thinking about mercury then don't worry, it's not very useful for this type of application.

[@ashryver3605]

1) that end run with the one p core hitting 96c while the rest are 10c cooler or more is such a shame, it limits everything. Perhaps clipping that ones frequency down a bin will let the others go to 61. 2) Very low scores for the clocks being run, very bizarre. But it makes sense, because the end run the max core eff clock for p cores was only 5935. So not true 6000. But on the prior 58x/45x profile, being sub 41k points is very concerning. My 13900Ks at normal 56x and a minor bump to 44x e cores, gets 41k-41.85k points max (depending on priority and R2R variance). IE. Normal Prio is around 41.2-41.4, High Prio gets me that 41.6-41.8 range. Not delidded or anything, maxes a little over 90c on 4 hot cores.

[@rammstein4kremastered]

My ryzen 7950x make 38000 point with cheap Deepcool AS500 air cooler after undervolting

[@DeanMurphyCDM]

Is it possible to preorder the 1700 block? I’m running an EK Velocity2 with direct die mod and the results are underwhelming. Still pushing 100 degrees when benchmarking.

[@ukaszsmoa8416]

Will there be a version of this block with clear plexi?

[@EinSwitzer]

Ram offset so 8gb x 2 then 16gb x 2 should trick the CPUs memory controllers to address but remember you will have to increase load to level outputs to fastest

[@Anthony69420]

Ohhh my god. The fact you guys were able to pull this off is impressive. Delidding pun lol seriously what are guys gonna do next?! I cant see yall topping this

[@animearmpits3060]

hey, quick question bro, I have a 13900k and I just order the EK quantum Delta2 tec. I was wondering if it would make sense to not delid the CPU as it still has the Indium Solder and I was wondering if I get better temps if I leave it stock? also, I've been wondering how does the thermal grizzly conductonaut work at sub ambient with the tec coolers? does it get cold enough to make it not work?

[@scambio_termico]

Wouldn't it be better to use a PCM (phase change material) like Honeywell PTM7950 instead of liquid metal ?

[@Spinelli__]

PTM7950 is good and, and fantastic for certain applications but for very hot, very high heat-dense area (ie. tons of heat & tiny space), like a powerful, little CPU die, liquid metal is much superior. Disclosure: this is from research, reading forums of others' experience (especially on overclocking websites), etc. and not from any of my own personal experience.

[@brennanIX]

PTM7950 is nothing that special. Top end thermal pastes work equally good, while LM SIGNIFICANTLY outperforms even the best paste on the market. You could easily expect an 8 to 10 degree improvement on temps with LM over PTM.

[@MSteamCSM]

Can you cool the die with water directly? So water could flow right on to the die itself?

[@ThePurpleRider]

Inside the cooler there's a part with a lot of tiny fins for the water to flow through. That way you get a lot of surface area and better heat transfer. If you just put the water onto the die directly it would be worse by a lot because there's less surface area as well as not as much thermal mass. The water block also provides a closed loop. Imagine if the sealant failed on a direct die to water setup, coolant everywhere. Same reason we put little aluminum heat spreaders on VRMs instead of just leaving the package by itself.

[@awetisimgaming7473]

I'm still unable to find an am5 version of this block for sale literally anywhere, does anyone know if there's gonna be more made, or if I can even get one at all?

[@ggood003]

I got way better performance from the EK direct die block by lapping off all the nickel so it's finally flat

[@mitchell6you]

Would be great, if men could buy the coolblock with a delided cpu.. or even better as Upgrade kit: mobe/Cpu/Coolblock/ram pre-installed

[@fixthetempo7276]

6GHz OC 14900KS looks nice and i think it can be 6.2 Ghz all cores in gaming . This is insane

[@JMUDoc]

I don't know why Intel bothers even putting an IHS on it.

[@playludesc]

Will the AM5 mycro be available again?

[@MrHakisak]

Hey Der8auer can you please clarify what you mean at 8:30? Does contact pressure effect memory frequency capabilities? I always thought once it's detected then it's okay. I have thin washers on my delided 12900k to reduce (pressure) bending, but find it very difficult to overclock memory, I can't even do xmp when my memory kit is on my boards qvl list.

[@dexterman6361]

See comment made by @gsuberland. It has a lot of good info

[@nerdypcbuilder]

I run 5.9 daily on 14700k 340w with iceman direct die block and my temps sit around 70° My supercool block performs maybe a few degrees better on my 14900ks but i daily my i9 @ 6.3 about 400w

[@cds5067]

400w at 6.3 isn't bad honestly

[@brunogm]

Why remove Indium solder and not just amalgam with LM ??

[@EinSwitzer]

Thermal trick for chip breakin as well as compounds operating temps thermal compounds can be too cold as well as too hot

[@juno1597]

That is insane.

[@jake..A]

Why is the coldplate better for the rgb version? shouldn't they be the same?

[@brennanIX]

Probably not that the RGB version has a better Coldplate, but rather its just a better model, which also has RGB included.

[@jake..A]

@@brennanIX @12:40 He literally says the rgb version has a better coldplate that is 1-2c better

[@valminyaylo9747]

Can you build a block that would allow fluid to touch cpu directly and use non conductive fluid?

[@cds5067]

Nobody knows how but yes, this is the best way.

[@Kapono5150]

His German accent really makes me damp

[@almighty151986]

What could it clock too under direct die with the e-cores disabled?

[@cds5067]

Above 9ghz on ln2

[@Rockport1911]

With the enormous power draw and cooling requirements this is asolution to get all the potential out of these chips. Some say these chips should come delidded, I would go further and say these chips should come with a lid that has a watercooler in them. Iam sure there can be some deal with EK or other companies that could supply suitable solutions ( coldplate with fins) directly to the manfuacturing line that get soldered on just like the heatspreaders today. The upper parts can be added later.

[@Conlan0215]

Duuuuude i just bought an Iceman!

[@rekareaper]

Same, I’ll replace it if this is better though.

[@rulik006]

iceman is good too. So no sense to use der8auer's one

[@rekareaper]

@@rulik006 I’ll use both probably. I imagine iceman is slightly better than supercool and barrow and that iceman and der8auer is close. I have a 13900k and a 14900k system though, so I’ll just whichever is the best on my personal one and the 2nd best on the one for my gf and kids.

[@Conlan0215]

@@rulik006 eh, the cold plate wasn't exactly flat. Close enough to work, but I would appreciate something made with Der8auer's attention to detail.

[@krisg822]

🤔dual 420M radiators from EKWB are as good as a MO-RA3 420LT, bcoz MO-RA has a surface of about 6m² in total, while a single 420M rad has about 2,5m², except you get smaller fans for the 420 M rads and those have more static pressure....MO-RA is good only bcoz at low pump speed, you get like 2~3 minutes before the water completes one loop.

[@Spinelli__]

Just get Hardware Labs GTR rads in combination with Phanteks T30 fans in push/pull. Nothing can compete with the GTR for absolute top-end performance (2000 - 4000+ RPM, high static pressure, etc.)

[@krisg822]

@@Spinelli__ 2 minutes long nothing beats MO RA3, that is a fact. And on passive cooling 125W after 3hrs will get teh CPU from 72C to 86C....all that at minimum pump speeed too. So i guess, i will be for now staying with MO RA3....and the two 420M rads, if i feel like it, since i have these two options. MO RA3 is cheaper tho.

[@themightiestofbooshes9443]

0:18 You know der8auer is German because he said "we will today" instead of "today we will" :D

[@CarputingYT]

BOUGHT ONE THANK YOU!!!

[@TheDarkbb2]

better than iceman?

[@CarputingYT]

@@TheDarkbb2 I was looking at iceman and think derbauers will be better, putting it all together today. No question more goes into manufacturing derbauers I'm sure in testing they compared theirs to icemans too

[@OGSGTWOBBLE]

@@CarputingYT How did you get one? Everytime I check they are out of stock! Please let me know how it went. Thanks

[@shinokami007]

Thanks :3

[@AccuracyGaming]

i got 43400 on mine wirh ek block llc 5 auto v max temp at 87c

[@neo1231]

Hey der8auer, love your videos! its been a while since doing direct die cooling on the 7950x, i havent been able to find it on any sites for purchase. Is it available for purchase or is it not feasible? Thank you

[@urktklirk9770]

R.i.P Intel

[@s9be14]

My 14900k is hitting 42400 in R23 using lian li trinity performance

[@cristiansciolti5122]

Where we can buy the tool for remove indio and silicon?

[@der8auer-en]

It will be included in our delidders in the future. Not sure if we will sell it separately

[@cristiansciolti5122]

@@der8auer-en do you know when?

[@rem_0]

11:54 yeah i guess this is not extreme enough for guys like you, but average user would freak out seeing this setup 😂

[@El.Duder-ino]

It’s great to see Intel & AMD r still unable to achieve similar results to liquid metal and basically give Thermal Grizzly excellent business oppurtunity! Well done folks, their lame work is your sucess!👍

[@AndroidBeacshire]

Give me the damn RGB block and take my money already

[@jmsndvs]

Why not just use toothpaste as the polishing material?

[@lazyturfbattler]

yay

[@RickMyBalls]

that CPU package power is more than my whole system consumption on cinebench with an overclocked custom watercooled 9900K

[@edwarddejong8025]

Amazing technology here. I think Intel should start selling naked CPU's so that you don't have to mess around with removing the cover, etc. This is a superior method for sure.

[@magicaluprising9190]

Ok I guess I’m doing an intel water cooled build

[@hmmmmmmmmm]

Anyone trying to overclock a 14900 of any sort automatically loses my respect. You want to kill a CPU, well this is the way to do it. This CPU is already plenty suicidal as it is.

[@杨志远-d4q]

cant wait to get my hands on this block! is there a release date or anything?