Intels GPU software needs some serious work!

[@coffeejn]

We need Intel to fix the ARC drivers before worrying about OC on these cards.

[@BruceCarbonLakeriver]

true that!

[@davidescobar9309]

Totally agree, also most of midrange players wont really go after OC their cards. I believe most of people who are looking after this cards are more interested in the price vs raw performance.

[@Rspsand07]

@@davidescobar9309 Nobody should be looking at this card unless they like tinkering and are a heavy enthusiast, which is definitely who'll OC. If you want budget facebok is best where I've seen 220$ 6700 xts, 240$ 3070s, 280$ 6800s, and 400-450$ 6800 xts and 3080s, otherwise 6600/6600 xt/6650 xt if you absolutely want new.

[@gharm9129]

@@Rspsand07 No one should buy used miner cards. Let them rot for screwing with the supply and hoarding gpus.

[@Rspsand07]

@@gharm9129 That's one of those spite myself moves. Only one who wins is Nvidia/AMD. If you're on a budget, you absolutely should be. Espesially at brands with transferable warranty and the latest gen that'll have 2-3 years warranty left, a huge discount, and no taxes.

[@0Camus0]

Hey Jay, the first slider is the frequency offset, you are moving the entire VF curve up. The second slider is how far in the VF the frequency/voltage can go, that's why you see freq changes on the voltage slider. Try maxing the freq offset first, then play with the voltage. Tom Petersen waa able to get 2.7 GHz from this GPU in real time.

[@DanielFrost79]

For the GPU to be released this 'average' for their first GPU for 20 years, this is not bad. Now we only need a new driver update. I'll bet they've upped the driver performance till the release.

[@will3641]

Intel: what?! I heard nothing, our product is great already.

[@bagelbytes69420]

I do like that RT features are very strong on these cards, especially compared to AMD. It will REALLY force AMD to either optimize for RT, or pump up the performance big time with future endeavors. Competition is king, especially with how sheisterey Nvidia have been with pricing and treatment of AIB partners. *cough EVGA cough*

[@kuikyroje]

Especially at that price point! Makes me look like a turkey fucker for buying a 3080TI @ 2000 AUD!!!

[@arctrooper12]

@@bagelbytes69420 well...just e now, no more vga

[@gusfring96]

And the hardware is actually round 3070-level based on tests on a lot of games, just bottlenecked by driver performance. If AMD solved it, so can Intel. a 329 dollar potential 3070 is far, far from bad.

[@TheTechAdmin]

2:37 Oncea programmer at MSI Afterburner gets ahold of a card with the software, they will be able to grab the data points from _this_ software. And update MSI Afterburner to support ARC.

[@tadasnever]

It's kind of expected, since it's specs on paper is way higher than RTX 3060, but in reality most of the time it barely keep up with RTX 3060. In short - drivers sucks, but it can be improved over time, which keeps me optimistic about intel GPUs

[@cinoaz1243]

Arc is just finding its footing. This is a first gen card folks and they are doing very well when compared with other mid-grade cards. I will buy one, not that I need it, but, to help support a third option in the GPU market. Thanks Intel Graphics, I'll continue to root for ya.

[@SimonBauer7]

EXACTLY. people fail to comprehend this

[@DanielFrost79]

Same here. But i need to upgrade my CPU first. (Still on my 8700)

[@DanielFrost79]

@@SimonBauer7 Yeah, i'm just ignoring the ignorant millenials because they just don't see the big picture here.

[@craig9365]

@@SimonBauer7 not really. They fail to accept dealing with a first gen product. Not everyone wants to be a beta tester and deal with these issues some which may have little to no info of what's causing it or how to fix it. It's YOU who doesn't understand that Intel still needs work to be done on top of the very obvious problem of the card basically being terrible for playing anything that isn't a new game.

[@DanielFrost79]

@@whalehunter2407 Have you ever even heard of "Beta Drivers"?... Probably not.

[@Mass1veGam3r]

Tbh these cards aren't great but ain't bad, they're quite good for their first try and the target (mid-range gpu market). I hope people give it a chance because we need more gpus on the market and more players competing the more competive pricing we will get among all gpu makers. We need to break the dual monopoly if we want to keep getting gpus without the need to sell a kidney.

[@forog1]

Yeah, we do need another GPU brand because Intel is our best bet because at least in our Centre. There won't be another GPU brand sadly as it's a lot for a new company to just start get started developing a new GPU architecture which would take years to finish and another few years and billons to release lol

[@lasthopelost9090]

@XvX well yeah they need people to use them a sample size of a few hundred won’t compare to maybe millions of users and all that data and it could be a lot worse

[@AntonMochalin]

@XvX what do you mean "resizable bar is a big red flag"? Either your system supports it and then you get the performance or it doesn't and then you simply shouldn't buy these cards. Poor DX11 support is a much worse problem for people like me but if one only plans to play newer games (there's a lot of people who only play Fortnite or Overwatch or Call of Duty etc) then these cards are a very good option.

[@AntonMochalin]

@XvX Rebar is just required if you want to use Arc, why would one want to turn it off? One just needs to make sure their CPU and MB support it.

[@AntonMochalin]

@XvX yes sure you shouldn't use Arc in older systems which don't support Rebar just like you shouldn't try to install DX12 games on Windows 7. Other issues are driver issues (except probably DX11 support) and will be sorted out. The cards aren't even sold in stores yet. I've seen glitches a lot on Radeon cards long time after release and still there were enthusiasts who bought Radeon for some reason. If you want more stable system buy NVidia. I wouldn't expect this Arc generation to have any noticeable market share even if there were no issues at all but I guess in 6-12 months it will be quite a safe bet and a good bargain for some categories of consumers.

[@sinom]

AMD relive is their recording software. The interface is called Adrenaline

[@Azraleee]

Yeah it's called Adrenaline since 2017. Before that it was Crimson.

Was there no memory OC option? That would be nice and it would also give a clue to how limited the card is on memory bandwidth if at all.

[@tristanweide]

This card has a massive bus as well so memory bandwidth shouldn't be much of an issue. It has the same bus width as 3070/ti if I recall correctly.

[@christophermullins7163]

@@tristanweide that doesn't mean it isn't memory starved. Different architecture uses bandwidth differently. Also.. 3070s have much faster vram. 256bit is far from massive. Lots of 384 and 512 bit cards in the past.

@@christophermullins7163 Yea and you could even get a GTX 260 216SP card with 448bit bus for 139€ back in the day (retail not used) and SLI two of them with out breaking the bank. Its a bit annoying the price of cards today and knowing they can do 512bit buses if they wanted and at a decent price.

[@jaanu2222]

It's a start for the intel , they've never made a discrete gpu before , people should calm themselves and have faith but they'll improve , it's essential to have a 3rd company for competition to get nvidia amd on right track and they don't get crazy with the pricing

[@MuShinnen]

Yes they have. They stopped making them, but this is not their first foray into making DGPUs.

[@fajaradi1223]

Cough ... Cough ... Project Larabee

[@jaanu2222]

@@fajaradi1223 how many gpu sold that time ?

[@saleh3521]

7:23 could someone explain this? I get that more power more clock. But how does the clock going down on its own to stop the power going over the limit. Shouldnt it a basic you need X power to reach Y clock. If you have the power you get the clock. If you dont have the power you dont get the clock. But how does the clock lowers itself so the power doesnt go over the limit?

[@yashkhd1100]

By looking at the transistor count and process node there is very high probability that in a year or two as Intel optimize and stabilize their driver stack they will extract excellent performance from ARC. Being a software dev I'm very much aware about how complex graphics driver stack can be. I would definitely give credit to Intel of bringing at least this level of stability for the brand new product which is directly trying to bite 3070 territory. Doesn't matter how much money u through at driver development teams it's gonna take its time to stabilize. This is time problem not a money problem.

[@dominic.h.3363]

It's a pro for me if I don't have to involuntarily participate in silicon lottery to get more bang for my buck. If there is less disparity between individual pieces of a product line, that's just an assurance that everyone gets exactly what they paid for.

[@Yuri_Tarded]

I’m sorry but this sounds like coping lol Nothing wrong with optimistic view

[@dominic.h.3363]

@@Yuri_Tarded You mean there is nothing wrong with guy A getting 10% more performance for the same 329 bucks that guy B spent on the same product? Best of luck to you not becoming guy B...

[@phohecks6046]

Cope

[@cup_and_cone]

You're still getting the lottery here.... It's just that the firmware is garbage.

[@dominic.h.3363]

@@RealSaine I'm a content creator heavily utilizing CUDA and as such, Intel ARC is more than useless for me. This is just a simple statement of facts, no brand loyalty is at play here. Nobody likes spending money and seeing getting less performance than someone else who has the same product.

[@freekvanemaus]

Fun fact: I installed the ARC drivers just to see if that control panel would work for me and it did. I'm running an ultra slim laptop with intel iRIS Xe graphics and the normal graphics command center kinda sucks it doesn't really give you anything to adjust. Of course this IGPU does not allow for any tweaking but I still get that nice overlay with some telemetry I did not have otherwise like voltage (up to a whopping 900mV) and GPU clock speed (smashing 1300MHZ). I did have to re-install the Xe drivers afterwards but I still have the ARC software even if it's just a nice gimmick. I'm planning to build a gaming PC over the next couple of months and your content has been super helpful. I'm also considering trying an intel GPU for my very first build, if they become available here for a reasonable price that is. Keep up the great work!

[@landemossel]

someone i know told me that the gpu performance boost slider isn't any kind of mhz boost but an overall performance boost with (if possible) fan speed temp limit etc and that would explain the lower average clock speed when using higher values when it's lowering clock speed to keep the temp under a certain treshold

[@matiko13]

10:30 --> There can be clicking "?" icon to show some more information for stuffs what doing in intel software.

[@Krutonium]

Jay! Mod it so it doesn't know how much power it's pulling, and then put it on Water for more thermal headroom and see how far it can go!

[@thelonelytimbit]

How, and with what waterblock?

[@tippyc2]

@@thelonelytimbit How: shunt mod Waterblock: could be any CPU block, but they're gonna need a modified or custom mounting bracket

[@420rvidxr]

@@tippyc2 uhhh, chip isn't in a standard form, not even centered to the mounting holes of the cooler, it's all propietary

[@thelonelytimbit]

@@tippyc2 shunt mods require a fair bit of specific board knowledge that simply doesn't exist yet for Intel. On AMD and Nvidia it's a lot easier because we have previous generations and established board design choices to go off of. I don't think Jay has the resources to be investigating shunt mods and designing cooler mounting brackets, they aren't LTT.

[@tippyc2]

@@420rvidxr Yeah, i watched GN's teardown too. Still, any generic CPU cooler and a custom mount would do it. I get that practically nobody in the tech space other than Der Bauer understands fabrication enough to do it, but that doesnt mean it cant be done. It doesnt need to be pretty, it doesnt need to be perfectly centered over the chip, it doesnt need to cool the RAM or VRM's.

[@dhoop4482]

I understand Arc has a ways to go but it will be interesting to see what changes are made with both the "LE" cards (wish they could have come up with something better than Limited Edition/hope they change it in the future) and also how the AIB cards perform early next year. It seems like Jay was having some fun with overclocking the card with the understanding that it's Intel's first attempt and knowing improvements will be made if they want to compete. From everything I've seen, Tom Petersen seems like he genuinly cares about making Intel's graphics cards a viable third option and I hope he succeeds since the more competition, the better for all of us.

[@patx35]

LE is Intel's naming for "Founders edition". Except that the GPU performance is identical to partner models. Also only available as the 16GB model.

[@brandonokeeffe1193]

2 things that made me think it was the LE he was OCing is GPU RAM usage being over 8000MB with 49% utilisation Also at like 0:57 mark he gives the system specs where he says it is the LE card

[@SlowPokeRacing33]

I love that Jay's titles aren't clickbait.

[@acidcharon]

It would be hilarious if EVGA goes full Intel GPUs and we even get a KingPin intel GPU

[@quantum5661]

honestly i'd love it regardless of whos cards EVGA is making, i hate the idea of them leaving gaming entirely

[@jay_tarantula899]

🤣 u didnt hear? They dont make ANY gpus anymore.

[@adhdengineer]

The card does look pretty in the chassis tho.

[@anthonybarton1591]

I was pretty skeptical on the looks but it does look really nice in there.

[@TestDriveInline5]

At 15:14 did I see the clock spiking to 3267 MHz? It's gotta be magic in there. The ghosts within the machine 😅

[@dustinhipskind7665]

Could always resistor mod the A770 to see where you could take it.

[@YAAMW]

1:24 And a giant glass panel choking the airflow in the front

[@ThereWasNoFreeName]

7:52 It was 13MHz on my 1080 and on 3080Ti it's 15MHz. Is 7MHz for 40x0 series?

[@ClaireReed]

The Performance Tuning configuration menu gives control over the v/f curve (GPU Performance Boost), voltage offset, power limit, and temperature limits

[@SirB3ast]

He talks about the card and I'm here like eyes locked onto the monitor. That's a really cool monitor. lol

[@PStateSkate]

It would be interesting to see if minor undervolting could help bridge that gap with the wattage maxed out. Seems like the overhead from the stock voltage is a serious limiting factor despite a few degrees of temperature headroom to work with. Unfortunately that isn’t an option in the current version of the oc software (or luckily lol)

[@Velerios]

Did you try to type in the wattage limit? Maybe the slider does NOT allow more than 228W, but if you type it in it might work. There are some cases where you can actually go over the slider.

[@Kromunos]

I'd still support ARC if I can, sure compared to both AMD and NVIDIA but they're just starting out. Also, it's good to have a 3rd option when buying GPUs in the future.

[@drunksupportcharacter]

I think jay is probably one of the few out their that understands this product, Its not gonna make waves out of the box, But it has the potential to and that is whats good about it, its a toy for the ones who want to tinker with things right now.

[@laurentgontard9501]

Hi Jay. I had big performance issues on Farming Simulator 22 (Yes) and the max power target setting solved the issue 100%. You are right on the fact that Intel has a problem on the frequency management. They should temporarily, at least, set a higher power target.

[@teardowndan5364]

The mystery slider appears to be a % boost - 20-24MHz (~1%) per '1' of the unit-less slider when none of the other limits are being hit first.

[@freeaccount6770]

C'mon guys, ya gotta wait for the 770K "unlocked" Edition.

[@Joeyzoom]

Well at least the competition is there. They'll improve over time and bring innovation along with the other two brands. Looking forward to the future!

[@snake4game]

15:15 is that a bug or what happend to go at 3267mhz ?:o

[@ReLo_FZR]

5:00 Why the voltage offset can only go + ? Do they realy think undervolting is obsolete ?

[@TheTechAdmin]

Is EVGA going to be an Intel ARC partner?! That would be such an awesome slap in the face for Nvidia.

[@ColdRunnerGWN]

It's likely that EVGA has an anti-compete clause in their agreement, and if that's the case then it will be a while before they could even think of doing it.

[@terribleatgames-rippedoff]

@@ColdRunnerGWN Actually they don't have such clause. There's a GN video about that. It's one of those after the initial reveal video.

[@terribleatgames-rippedoff]

EVGA knows better than joining Intel ARC's clownfiesta, but they are really missing a huge opportunity by not wanting to go with AMD Radeon. If you are EVGA and rather choose to downsize and restructure to focus on other product segments than than jumping in bed with AMD with favourable terms, then that says a lot about EVGA's CEO.

[@ColdRunnerGWN]

@@terribleatgames-rippedoff Thanks for the info. I didn't watch the whole video, so I missed that. I'm surprised that they didn't, as a lot of companies don't want you just jumping ship like that.

[@robertpearson8546]

In 2011 Ćuk came up with a better VRM design, the 2-phase Ćuk-buck2 VRM. But the graphics card manufacturers (and the motherboard manufacturers) prefer the 1920 design (60% efficiency) to the 2011 design (99.5% efficiency). The newer design is also cheaper, smaller, has less ripple, and has a better transient response. Plus, in the 1920 design, if any FET shorts, the GPU voltage goes to 12 V.

[@monster4play]

Did you try Intel XTU for overclocking? Since XTU is an Intel tool, you may have better luck...

[@TheXenetiX]

Great vid buddy! Keep up the good work!

[@kryptux2463]

I can see that control panel being a pain in the bottom to some. Geez all Intel needed to do was look at afterburner and do something like it. But no! gotta try reinvent the wheel and use sliders that have no real description to what you are doing..

[@bagelbytes69420]

The power limit on these seems to be the main issue. I would say that undervolting is likely the way forward with these 1st party cards, similar to how my MSI 3080 is hard locked to 330W max, when other ones have a higher limit. If I want the most performance out my 330W, I change the voltage curve in MSI Afterburner in order to clock up to ~1900-2000MHz. Simply adding more to the GPU slider, and pumping up voltage increases heat, and gives me lower clocks. I think if these cards can be made to work with Afterburner, and have editable voltage curves, this should be what you all test next.

[@namegoeshere197]

Just a shame that Nvidia also took away 100% user volt control away form us a few years back :(

[@fnorgen]

These modern cards have so little power headroom that tuning for power efficiency often becomes the most important. Personally I've become really fond of playing voltage limbo and even slight underclocking after I realized that I could get my card running cool and whisper quiet at 85% power, with only a miniscule performance sacrifice. Easily worth it in most games.

[@kdawg3484]

Doctor: Here's the comprehensive report from your blood test. Patient: Okay, how are we going to adjust my meds, diet, etc? Doctor: Like this... *pulls out sliding block toy from waiting room*

[@linndoria]

Jay, will you be doing an Arc follow up around March/April 2023 to see how the latest drivers by then have improved the overall impressions of the A750/A770? It would be about 6 months since it launched.

[@ThatJordyGuy5]

Consumes 20% more power for 3% more performance? Probably worth sticking with stock until things get better

[@paulboyce8537]

Fan curve can be done. Wattage can be adjusted beyond 228W.

[@norbertsantos1133]

I’m more interested with the monitor you are using? Whats the brand / model? TY

[@shuntao3475]

I been running full power Freq at +30 and Voltage at +15 stable for 2 weeks. Never over 60c. Fan Control has been there for months.

[@ownedant8026]

I'm glad I waited to upgrade my GPU. I've been running a 5800x with a 1660ti for the longest time but with the price of this GPU I feel like it is time for a GPU upgrade

[@AKStovall]

congratulations on your desire to be an alpha tester... 350 bucks on a brick... get yourself an established 30xx or RX6xxx card for a little more, and get the reliability built in... Intel won't be a viable option for another 2 generations at the earliest.

[@julianpottermusic]

keep the 1660ti. If you're looking for an actual upgrade go 20/30 or something from AMD. I wouldn't go ARC as an upgrade, only if you're like a gpu hobbyist and wanna give them a chance. Even then I'd keep the 1660ti as a backup

[@electricdragon9366]

Is this why the driver for Xe-LP got pulled from the download server a few days ago? to fix driver bugs? (Xe-LP is the GPU in Tiger & Adler Lake mobile CPUs, and it's fairly good)

[@Matt561]

"if it was me" it is you, we're watching you right now lol

[@foxykaruptsock3213]

Did you ever hover the mouse over the ' ? ' at the end of the lines ? ....just in case it was a context sensitive hover Help info button ?

[@pino_de_vogel]

that explains power draws from this card. i was thinking they has a terrible inefficiënt PCB but they are not 225 watt cards by default but 190. I saw 165 watts power draws and thought that was weird and the the rest was all vrm and pcb but with 190 it makes more sense. Shame you can overclock but not undervolt.

[@fernandoserrapt]

wazzup guys! I hope Intel releases a new driver to improve a lot the performance against Nvidia and AMD monopoly to drop a bit more the prices. The hardware is not bad at all but they really need to do a rework for the driver, cause right now is very unstable.

[@dan_loup]

There's a potential 3070 buried somewhere under those early bad drivers, as the card likes to show sometimes, like with the RDR2

[@SviatoslavDamaschin]

The build quality is a*s, it hinders the maintenance

[@SimonBauer7]

will be like amd gpus. as drivers mature performance increases.

[@J1nx_exe]

You think they'll be stable soon? Bc if so, I might just put this in my first gaming pc. Since I'd love to have more than nvidia and amd when I look to upgrade my pc in 4-5 years...

[@wafflescake6938]

@@J1nx_exe i hope they manage to get the drivers "good" in like 2 months, bue it will take some time. They will upload a lot of drivers in the early stages

[@paulboyce8537]

YES FOR PROFILES. Some games are very limited and need every bit of performance you can iik from the card. Some need less and no need to stress the card. 4k is what I play so XeSS XMX games mainly or older that haven't got a very high demand from the card.

[@Dobrufusnoretro]

In Europe still dont see any intel gpu in stores... they selling already in America?

[@DigBipper188]

I have a feeling these cards ccould have LN2 moon-tune potential... if only we could bypass that power limit!! that said, I actually like the look of the ARC Control centre, and the fact you can actually play with the clock settings on this card *ON THE FLY AS WELL* is very impressive for a gen1 GPU product... We need to remember that Intel's only real toe-dip into dedicated graphics was 1999 when they released the i752... and that thing sucked, and it didn't natively support overclocking!! For them to try again over 20 years later and for it to *not* totally suck is a refreshing change for Intel. Especially when we are all so used to the performance (or lack thereof) of the following integrated chipsets; i855 GMe GMA950 / 965 GMA X4500 GMA3100 HD4000 HD630 Iris Pro ... and now they actually have something that is properly DX12 compliant, has dedicated hardware raytracing, has raster performance akin to an RTX 3000 series GPU and it has its own dedicated RAM instead of stealing it from the CPU... That right there, is a pat on the back moment... and I hope that the ARC iGP is as impressive as the ARC DGPs could potentially become once they iron out the worst of the bugs and get familiar with the architecture.

[@WhiskeyInspekta]

Acre bifrost OC software lets you change fan speed. But doesn’t let you change voltage.

[@3dprintedodubunga405]

Nvidia does also allow wattage based power adjustments. But only through nvidia-smi.

[@fragalot]

2:20 Looks more like a game launcher like Epic Games, or Steam. Like do i really need a marketplace advertising crap just to OC a GPU?

[@MadClowdz]

I want to see availability after initial launch first.

[@Shijayy]

why i don't have the performance tuning thing?

[@deepsunsetbeachfacts]

samw

[@WXSTANG]

If 200watts is a limit... then they need to allow for under voltage. Also, where are the memory clocks and voltages? Drivers need some tweaks for sure.

[@Glubbdubdrib]

That GPU do kinda be lookin fancy with that little RGB stripe.

[@VizioDeUomo]

What does he mean when he says it's a beefy 1440p card and an "ok" 1080p card? Why would a lower resolution not be a step up in performance?

[@TheSmileyTek]

Wonder if NZXT CAM can recognize it. I actually use CAM over Afterburner. No particular reason I use CAM, I just do. Works fine for manual GPU OCing. Shunt mods? 🤔

[@no1bandfan]

Could you take another crack at this when the drivers start getting updated and other tools like afterburner can be used. And also try 3rd party cards since I believe they’ll be less power limited.

[@ruikazane5123]

From someone who turned up a GeForce FX on a laptop from 250/350 to 333/500 and half the VRAM left the lobby after almost a decade...could have really used VRAM temp sensors! Dunno if it gone limp because of the heat or the drops but it's still the laptop I use now...

[@SireDragonChester]

Didn’t Steve from Gamers Nexus also say this before awhile ago. He said they were buggy as F***.

[@David-yx3bd]

My personal experience with cards in this range is that you have better uplift from an undervolt paired with an overclock to the desired speeds, then once you have the speed you want and it's stable then dial in the memory clock to use up whatever head room is left. So for my EVGA 3060TI XC it comes out to like 925mv/2.0mhz/7.75mhz and that nets me about the same as I'd get with an unlimited overclock to 2.15-2.2 without all that wasted power and resulting heat and tends to just be more stable in general for a difference of maybe 1-2 FPS. Edit: Head room probably isn't the right way to put it because usually when you say that you're thinking power or thermals, but at 925mv you'll never hit a thermal limit - and you're imposing the power limit, so it's more of okay this is completely stable, so start weaking the memory until you see stability issues then dial back a little.

[@ancient1der]

Were you considering doing a test of the AV1 encoding capabilities? I saw that even the A380 was impressive with it, would be interesting to see how the 750 and 770 perform.

[@shiftyidog-]

Both cards have the same onboard encoder controller I believe so they should be the same

[@shiftyidog-]

380 and 770/750 I mean

[@albaniqn]

@@shiftyidog- it would be viable to have the 380 be solely for encoding footage and using whatever alternative graphics card you have to be used completely unaffected

[@allmybasketsinoneegg]

Did you test if FanControl can handle the fans?

[@StrangelyIronic]

I mean TBH most of the time overclocking is pointless anyway. The biggest impact overclocking makes is on benchmarks, odds are (if the card is stock tuned correctly with proper drivers) almost no one would notice a difference in performance for most tasks. I'd take mature/stable drivers over overclocking any day. Let it work properly at the level, then worry about turning up binned samples.

[@KolnFriedChicken]

Besides that GPU OC isn't really hugely beneficial, it's sad that there ain't an option for undervolting, because that's how you silence your card how you effectively cut costs and also most of the time you're able to UV and OC a card at the same time without even regarding the power limit.

[@UnfilteredNonsense]

ok now that is what i call a monitor

[@ron200088]

Exactly my thoughts ! And Jay's a big guy and the looks small compared to that behemoth. I bet he got it to compensate for the "small" 4090.

[@Xilent1]

How big is that monitor anyway?

[@Kiba825]

I just came here to say I'm a new subscriber, this is now my main channel for computer related tech/info. I really enjoy and respect Jay's straight to the point, no bullshit, not afraid to call out manufacturers attitude. I love it, keep it up.

[@MsLoneWolf4]

Currently on 1050ti. This arc is definitely being considered.

[@beezymeech]

Bruh get a used 3070

[@MsLoneWolf4]

@@beezymeech in my area used are 99% of the sticker price of new. Also as of 2080 series cards are also going at between 450 and 500. At that point, trying out a competitor card makes more sense.

[@BlaineEvans]

I haven't messed with overclocking since my old Phenom II X6 1055T (which was a legend). Honestly, the amount of guesswork here seems pretty in-line with what I was doing in BIOS back then. Y'all just got spoiled with MSI Afterburner, lol.

[@RubyRoks]

They have the outline for a lot of great things, they just need to focus on the execution. And fan control. Focus on giving the user fan control. I feel like custom BIOS is gonna be really powerful on this first run of Intel cards

[@tomg1432]

My 3060 ti is waiting for pickup at Best Buy. I feel slightly less apprehensive about picking it up now.

[@YumiSumire]

3060 ti is definitely better than a770. Like 20fps better.

[@tomg1432]

Really it's the 6700 xt I'm torn over, but me son spends a lot of time on blender. Either way I get his 1660 ;)

[@user78405]

i know what it is...its first of the kind , GPU PBO ...its like precision boost that your are changing the curve

[@broncojones3146]

so no fan controls, no undervolting no memory clocks, no memory voltage. Thats kind of sad that so many features are missing. And I'm little confused why lowering the core voltage chages the clock speed, usually that souldn"t influece the frequency. If the voltage is to low for the chosen clockspeed it crashes, but it looks like thats not the case here. Even if negative voltage offsets would be posssible this mechanic would make undervolting not viable, since the clocks drop as well if I understand that correctly.

[@nightworxx5183]

Yo Jay, i guess time will tell...but i still like the way this is going. And the AIBs will surely take advantage of this 😉

[@spankbuda7466]

Really, who? Oh, you mean Acer?

[@DigBipper188]

@@spankbuda7466 Depends... Maybe if Intel's GPUs can start taking some of the market from AMD and NVidia they might see prominent AIBs make boards for them... They do currently have a couple of lesser known Chinese AIBs making cards, such as Gunnir making the A300 series boards... And you never know - If they're able to cut a deal they can't refuse, EVGA could end up making XC and K|NGP|N edition ARC :) It all depends on how intel treats its existing board partner(s), how the technology matures and how well recieved their GPUs end up being after their software matures and the core goes through another generation.

[@pjavilla]

Maybe we'll see a Yeston Waifu Arc GPU 🤔

[@nightworxx5183]

@@DigBipper188 Well that would be one sight to behold 🤑But realistically who cares ? We are not talking about enthusiast stuff, but bread-and-butter hardware for casual gaming, and if Intel is capable of taking a piece of the cake and bring the prices down in that segment, i am personally content with that. If they get the drivers in check they will have this chance !

[@Michael.Vatter]

Can you tell me something? Does the Intel GPU´s have something like AMD Freesync or NVIDIA G-Sync? Would buy one but without anything like this it makes no sense for me and my G-Sync Monitor...

[@Nimrod336]

I been watch videos on this arc stuff. I'm not a huge computer guy anymore. Could someone tell me who is arc target marketing?

[@darkknight5942]

0:02 me after overclocking my laptop's display to 64hz.

[@banisherblade]

Afterburner doesnt work, what about Precision X or other OC softwares?

[@themalcore_]

Your OC settings are way too conservative. The 'Performance Slider' basically functions as an undervolt, and the Voltage setting moves the fMax up the V/F curve. The A770 is obviously different, but on the A380 an OC of 30 Perf / +100mV is a pretty strong setting.

[@johannestwickler242]

hey jay, got a question i got ddr5 6000mhz cl32 mem from corsair,but when i turn on xmp profile,my pc restarts and it doesn`t put xmp on it`s say`s: 4800mhz but it`s 6000 you know why xmp profile restarts my pc and doesn`t turn it on ? (12700k, 32gig mem on 6000 ddr5 cl36, gigabyte z690 ud ax ddr5 mb,rtx3090,1250watt coolermaster psu) so? you know the problem maybe?

[@Orain88]

That gpu performance boost slider seems to be like an untervolting tuner. Except I don't see where you can drop the mV below it's base voltage. I guess it would behave like an undervolt if you drop the wattage limit down while turning the gpu boost slider up? Is there an option to negative offset the voltage? I wish I had one of these to tinker with but I don't really need a new gpu right now.

[@2528drevas]

I ran the Shadow of the Tomb Raider Benchmark with FidelityFX and XeSS, because unfortunately FSR 2.0 isn't supported in the benchmark, on my XFX 6700xt. XeSS provided a substantial boost. I want to see how it would match FSR 2.0 though.

[@RobBCactive]

Strange, I ran XeSS on an RX 6700xt with 1440p and it was -5% slower than native, where FSR was +5% faster with quality 80% resolution. Others reported similar findings.

[@gustavo_vanni]

Why such a tiny monitor Jay? I'm barely able to see the screen!!

[@christhorney]

i wonder how a light underclock would make it performat a lower wattage

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

How can i install/download the intel ARC software like from the video?

[@THEGEEK2001]

is a770 worth it for older Haswell cpu setups?

[@einarabelc5]

What's your TV exactly Jay. I'd like to get something like that for DCS. Thanks!! Hey, when is M-RAm going to come out..

[@mccloud_1999]

Hey Jay, would you ever sell a 2080Ti? Been trying to get back into gaming so I bought a EVGA 1070Ti but I’m running everything with a 500w psu and an AMD FX-8350. I believe my cpu is on its deathbed. It’s running at 100% as soon as I start the pc. It starting to get extremely hot during idle or gameplay. It’s get around 165 -175 F. I’m planning on getting a new system with an Intel I7-7700k but I want to start streaming as well. I don’t want to run my 1070Ti into the ground with what I want to do.

[@limit4099]

I really like this set. I'll have to go back and watch your build videos because I'd like my room to similar 👍

[@Odin029]

That System Boost slider is like that movie Lucy... if you could ever get it to 100 then it would change the world as we know it.