This upgrade DOUBLED our FPS and cost less than $100!

Part 2 of our Used PC experiment we sell the CPU and GPU and buy new components to make our PC faster! In the end these parts only cost us $99... was it worth it? You decide!
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[@NukaOrQuantum...]

These office/OEM PC builds are one of my favorites. Upgrading old(er) systems into more appropriate gaming machines is so satisfying to watch

[@user-iy6zf2ol8n]

this

[@hayseedfarmboy]

the OEM form factor can be very handy, and generally cheaper than a ITX

[@temperedglass1130]

Weirdo

[@whitedragondojo]

I agree. I believe in building a new PC with an intended rebuild at year 3 to squeeze max value out of my rig; so yeah learning to upgrade is next level for builders...

[@NukaOrQuantum...]

@@temperedglass1130 You're the type of guy to put tempered glass onto a tile floor

[@uberjedisniper]

I bought a used RTX 3070 off ebay for my son for Christmas, and it's been incredible for him. Please continue doing these used hardware videos!

[@abasiczombie.]

Got my MSI Gaming X 3070 for $260. Awesome GPU!

[@joostvandijk6901]

Just bought a used 5600x and 6750XT for myself.. And before that a had a 2nd hand r9 390x, and before that dual r9 280x, and pretty much anything anything before that was 2nd hand.

[@eldonb5131]

Just got a 4060 (believe it's only $40 more than the used 3060 one you bought but new) and about to install a 7800x3d CPU. My computer was a potato so will be interesting what the new CPU can do to improve performance.

[@sovereigntyofvoyagers7380]

@@eldonb5131 You're gonna be on cloud nine with that 7800X3D, best gaming CPU on the market so far.

[@cosmic_cupcake]

​@@eldonb5131that's a very interesting cpu gpu combo. Do you do some kind of cpu heavy work?

[@SalemTechsperts]

9:00 "The Greatest Technician That's Ever Lived" Seriously, good video man, thank you for encouraging people to price things fairly on eBay. It's honest people like you that break the cycles of inflated scalper prices. I'm pressing all the thumbs.

[@joshd108]

Hey dood. Love your content and occasionally seeing you in the comments on other channels I like.

[@jake_leg]

Just discovered your channel through shorts the other day, didn't expect to find you in the comments here

[@sgt_retiredcharlie4102]

LOVE you shorts bro! Thanks for showing your fixes!

[@thereallantesh]

Jay, absolutely make more content like this. For the average PC builder this is far more relevant than a completely new build. Even when building a new platform I always reuse something such as the case, drives etc.

[@MrMOGHammer]

Did reuse the case and power supply from a computer built 10 years ago 3770k with 2 GTX 760, now it is ryzen 5800x with RTX 3060 and nvme drives

[@seanye239]

Same here mate, got a hard drive thats been with me since 2006 😂

[@thereallantesh]

@@MrMOGHammer My power supply I believe dates back to 2011. It's still running strong powering my Ryzen 5700X and RTX 2080 Super. I'll need to retire it when I platform upgrade again, but for now I can't believe it's still working flawlessly.

[@unh0lyav3ng3r8]

​@@thereallanteshjust retired my case and PSU after 10 years and several builds! They can be huge up front costs, but effectively £20 a year..

[@derekpayton9082]

I'm still using an eleven year old PSU, it has outlasted 5 upgrades, and is the only original part from my first all-new build

[@mudman1]

Yes! More of these upgrade path videos.

[@MrJhawk27]

Agreed. This is really interesting.

[@elusivelectron]

I second this. Do the gaming and lower tier comparison video!

[@SSYoung125]

I agree but I like the more natural flow of the video instead of forcing it.

[@SilverKnight16]

Small eBay tip for checking pricing trends: if you select "Advanced" to the right of the search bar, you can select "Completed Items" and it will show you all the expired/sold listings for a particular item. That way, you can see the selling/pricing history to get a better idea of an item's actual sold worth. The rtx 3060 is selling for around $200-230, depending on the size (believe it or not, the smaller ones tend to be more expensive, because that's what people use to upgrade SFF and other weird proprietary OEM builds), so that 3060 would have definitely sold immediately. Edit: Also note when selling on eBay, eBay takes about 10% off your selling price, so your actual net sales would've been closer to $265. Still, $130 for double performance is a damn good deal.

[@mattrogers6646]

Was going to say the same 2 things - completed listings and eBay commission fee.

[@xBINARYGODx]

oh its more than 10%, it's roughly 13.5%

[@badmotherhumper]

Totaly, only the 'sold' pricing is valid. if somethings listed for $x don't mean squat.

[@TheTalonts]

@@xBINARYGODx and aren't they taking Federal income tax out now? I know they were planning on a 19% default, then delayed it, but were supposed to have started it the beginning of this year (it's been a LONG while since I've sold on Ebay).

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@Sochsun]

I did a similar move for my wife 2 months ago. Bought a cheap RX 6600 and sold/replaced a GTX 1060 3GB, as she was starting to tun into issues with her games, mostly Baldur's Gate. Net cost was $80 CAD ($55-60 USD) and it near tripled her performance

[@NoBodysGamer]

geee, its your wife, get her 4060TI or 4070 Super

[@trsskater]

Before these grarphics card price inflations I used to replace my graphics card every year and it was a net $200 per year to get the highest end gpu every year. Pretty affordable. I'm not sure if this works anymore since the prices are so high and drop pretty hard. Although I bought ha 3090 and recently sold it for $200 more.

[@KonglomeratYT]

@@NoBodysGamer Send him the money then.

[@NoBodysGamer]

@@trsskater It works, but on average costs 500$, here is what you do, say you have 4090? Nvidia has their announcements in August and cards come 2-3 months later, so the moment they announce it you sell yours [keep some cheap 4060/4070 as backup card, hell when i sold 1080Ti to get 2080Ti i used 1030lol and was fine for windows]. The best if you keep the OG box and if it comes with any accessories, you never use them, keep them new like that 12pin cable, just buy one online, its good for the sale when its all look like new in a box [more money for you]

[@NoBodysGamer]

@@KonglomeratYT He should get a job, its not that expensive, if he lives in the west he shouldn't be that poor by default

[@goosejohnson3197]

I love that someone is showing how it is possible to cobble together a decent gaming computer on a budget, but something you might have overlooked is Ebay's fees. Just because you listed the parts for what you did does not mean you will end up with that in hand at the end. I usually subtract 20% for a ballpark of how much you might end up with.

[@raven4k998]

well it also shows the 5700g is the better choice even if you struggle on it's builtin igpu till you can afford a gpu because the cpu kicks ass as a cpu alone

[@b127_1]

Usually OEM pc's will have thier windows license tied to the motherboard. You can change anything you want, but as long as you keep the motherboard, windows will remain activated.

[@bdahb5040]

You can also transfer the key if you change the motherboard. Just record the key and bitlocker info before and call Microsoft to activate it on the new one

[@AstraeaAurora]

yep. license activation used to be based on a hash of CPU/motherboard/gpu serials, but MS has scaled it back to "new mobo = new PC"

[@caliginousmoira8565]

@@AstraeaAuroraworking on atf rules...

[@FeuerToifel]

@@AstraeaAurorawhich is illegal in some countries. so, if you bought a license, in some countries you can use it on whatever pc you want and MS can't do shit about it

[@SenileOtaku]

Well, that's only if you need MSWindows...

[@maxugrumov8523]

JayZ, this panel you took out on 10:45 to install 120mm fan has removable square plates, just remove them and you will have a specialized bracket for 120mm fan, because it is what it for.

[@ChristopherHailey]

Black screws with flat heads would have been better too

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

I think you should absolutely do more of these. I think it's interesting to see these upgrade pathways played out with tangible, tested results and a realistic take on how much it would cost. For most people trying to upgrade their system it's a hot mess of options and variables out there. It's hard to know what a person should even try to upgrade given the janky disparity between hardware generations.

[@benkonczal4584]

I like these videos. Recently my step son wanted to build a PC for a close friend of his. So I donated my 2070Super that’s been on the shelf for a while. He took it to micro center and they used it to build a balanced machine that’s a HUGE improvement over what he was using.

[@Hellefleur]

Gotta love Micro Center, built my PC with their help in picking components.

[@animalyze7120]

2070 Super on the shelf for awhile? How many overpriced nonsensical upgrade paths you running? Even top line games haven't outrun that card. 4k is not the standard it's the enthusiast path and often done in all the wrongs ways. 98% of gamers are using 1080 or 2k, not even sane that 4000 series ever sold a unit as they offer nothing but a lighter wallet. Pushing 300fps on a screen that only shows 144 maybe 200 isn't not sane or practical.

[@benkonczal4584]

@@animalyze7120 I’m running “nonsensical” upgrades for my CAD and video software that are VERY sensible. How about your figure out another way to control your jealousy, huh? There’s more to PCs than just gaming.

[@thecount4111]

​@@benkonczal4584 haters gonna hate I run a ASRock white taichi 7900 XTX with a 7800X3D on a X670E Steel dragon with corsair parts and a WD 4tb SSD with two 8tb hdd for video cameras. I wanna get into cad and other fun stuff this winter after i'm done upgrading to 9000 series cpu and hand me downing my cpu to my old lady. Her setup is semi jank with 7600X, ASRock PG A770 (very impressed with the A770 reviews sh!t on it too much imo.) On a B650E PG ITX. We both run cheap 32gb (2x16) team group cl30 6000 megatransfer ram though and run any game well on out monitors. I got a sweet deal on a 2k 180hz display for her as well $160 cdn

[@sloptercopter]

I think this is a great series because it helps demonstrate the value of older components. It also encourages problem solving and reducing e waste. You don’t need all the newest components to play games or run a PC. Showing the benchmarking is good too, because it demonstrates performance improvements, which validates the choices made.

[@commutiny3584]

Especially in this format, showing the results relative to the previous components installed, rather than on the test bench with other top of the range parts.

[@ArtForm460]

Would love more of these, love super high end things but nothing is more satisfying than the price to performance of slightly previous gen parts

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

what happpens if you pput a 90's accellerator card into a modern ryzen pc?🤔🤔

[@RealGreyGhost]

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue If its a modern game.... it wont run. There's a lot of tech on newer games that dont exist on legacy hardware. Even now, if you dont have a 20-series GPU (or AMD equivalent) that supports mesh shaders - that 10-series GPU will simply not run a game that uses mesh shaders as more and more games start using it

[@americasace]

You can definitely say that again. It's all about price to performance for the win.

[@tommyshoe-star1426]

@@RealGreyGhost while laughing reading this still on my gtx 1070 rog strix from dinosaur age :P but thinking about getting rx 6800

[@RealGreyGhost]

@@tommyshoe-star1426 7600XT is a bit faster an $329

[@GB-zi6qr]

Have to add. Yes, more of this please.

[@Wynn_Silver]

This was an awesome video. Kinda like watching a car restoration/upgrade show. I did something like this with my old Intel 4th Gen PC I keep in the living room. I think I spent like 250 total between a used CPU and RAM which were both big upgrades, and then a new 2tb nvme from Amazon as well. It was really fun tinkering with it and I very often use it when I don't want to be stuck in the office.

[@scottcol23]

9:02 Jay channeling his inner Linus. LOL

[@andy56duky]

Jaytwodropz?

[@Xenoray1]

@@andy56dukyDropTwoCents

[@Temir18usa]

Jay more authentic im my opinion i think this is what most people will experience for up great. Using eBay and selling old part s

[@energygameplay6513]

jaydrop tios

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@christianmiles2448]

This would make a good series

[@connorwalls.]

The PC Rehab channel has a series similar to this you should check out

[@a500]

This would definitely be a series I would be very interested in watching. The "over time" being very relevant to current pressures, a lot of my friends just can't afford much currently but are stuck in dead end sandbridge era stuff, so this is very helpful..

[@ldumont911]

Dude is a dope as human for this video. We hurting and finally, someone hears us. Thank you Jay for being the realest where ever you go

[@richh650]

Absolutely EXCELLENT video Jay. Please do more of these upgrade videos as these are much more interesting than other reviewers just discussing new and usually, overpriced PC components.

[@EXiLExJD]

I love these videos because it's what I did with my first PC, get a decent pre-build and make logical upgrades to it.

[@joshuamorrow3925]

I have watched your content for a LONG time, and it has helped me in my PC builds over time to the fullest. I use your recommendations as a guide to buying parts, You have helped in programs to help keep the cooling temps in my case down, and have helped in the building of my computers for many years now. keep up the good work. I love this content due to the fact many of us do not have the funds to buy the latest and greatest parts on the market. so again thank you, you have saved me from buying parts that might have been faulty. So again thank you. if I have a problem I always go back to one of your videos and I can usually find the fix for that problem, so again you have helped me and saved me a TON of money. keep up the good work and don't listen to any haters, I love watching this content, So thank you again, and have a wonderful life

[@nyx3681]

Please do more videos like these, i really enjoy seeing what combos for budget builds can be assembled, especially with the market always fluctuating

[@dougvantilburg9173]

Love the budget build videos recently. It's fun making bawl's out systems, but it's as much fun and more practical to see lower cost reviews and build/upgrade ideas.

[@djtribo8925]

Loving these videos, Jay! Building a PC from scratch is always fun, but overcoming the challenges that come with upgrading OEM systems is so much more satisfying!

[@ultraviolettp3446]

I like these upgrade videos as well. This is real world, real life videos that cater to people who don't want nor don't need a new computer but want to give a second life to a system on a budget. Kudos to you!

[@Rakshasa84]

Definitely do more of this kind of content. It'll help a lot of people getting into PC gaming. It would also help showing the "issues" these machines can have in the bios screens as well.

[@Chef_-xv7ms]

Please make more videos like this Jay it is very informative and eye opener for beginners! Thank you

[@Max-Attacks]

All the love to you and your crew J and Team. God bless you and yours.

[@ZOSO1024]

Awesome video, Jay! I love the problem solving and using resources on hand to upgrade rather than buying all brand new. Love to see more like this!

[@sauntor]

Nice video! I like these practical upgrade/build videos over brand spanking new hardware. Had never seen a low-profile cooler like that before either.

[@scottcol23]

I love this series! Marketplace builds are interesting to me. Keep up the great work!

[@ccricc]

Thank you guys for videos like this! I mostly watch because how much fun PC building is, so imo there's no need for the most expensive components (even if that stuff is fun to watch to sometimes). I'm planning a build for my brother with some of my old parts and this video gave me some inspiration and ideas so thank you!

[@bonse1]

Low end and mid end builds are great idea to cover, not many people do, yet its obviously the most realistic option for a lot of people. Good work team.

[@walterlegere1403]

I am SO happy you did this video!!! I've been "trading up" on PC components for quite some time. Started out with an Intel 4th Gen off-lease pre-built in 2016 and in December just finished a 9th Gen 9900K custom system for a grand total of about $300 (net) all by buying and selling parts to get to where I am now. It can be done. It takes time and patience. This was an awesome video. Well done as always Jay! You always seem to be right on top of things!

[@supermavgaming5858]

yes do it Jay that would be great to continue this as a series

[@willpatog9001]

definitely keep these videos coming, i love seeing the upgrades you can do for cheap 👌

[@partyheartyboy]

Hi Jay and team. Love these videos that you have been posting to the masses. I am happy that you remember where your main group of viewers probably have for their daily driver as their systems. Much respect! 🙂

[@madhatter8563]

This video is spot on. Just realized that after having my pc starting to make random cut outs after years without maintenance, that my components is getting older. Started to make me wonder which parts is "salvageable" and only needs a brush up and which is the ones that I should replace. Great vid! - Keep them coming :D

[@paulyoung4817]

Very interesting Jay. Please do more of this type.

[@thewickedtim]

This is a really fun series. I promised myself in the future I would only buy used to do my part to reduce e-waste so this has been great to watch.

[@fuzznyc]

Great Jayz! Excellent idea to show possible upgrades for old PCs. Really helps out us regular guys!

[@milotheaccountant]

Great to see you back Jay! Also really liked the video. Cool seeing KZbinrs finally start to talk about the used market for this stuff.

[@8xpdhpckkg]

This is such a good concept. Please, more of these kinds of videos!

[@moe6806]

Yes! Love these budget king / oem pcs

[@N0N0111]

@JayzTwoCents Please more of these video's that none other is doing, power to the gamers!

[@chrisnethercott9453]

I love these 'upgrade' videos. It shows real world problems (cooler that doesn't cover the IHS, no room for a fan, limited cooler height space...). Maybe you could continue it with this PC. Pretend you've had this one for a year and are looking for an upgrade. Would you do another CPU upgrade? A 3080? Power supply?

[@hayaZ]

i think this is a really good series idea!

[@RealGreyGhost]

This is the kind of videos we need more of TBH. And especially showing gaming benchmarks to prove that you dont need to spend a lot of money for a gaming rig. Especially helpful for people on an extreme budget. I've always bought high-end parts, because I can afford it, however after watching LTT and now Jay do these videos - I am motivated to do such a build myself.

[@mikeandrews4296]

You have become the "Wheeler Dealer" of PC's. I really like this kind of stuff because the average builder really learns a lot from this. You find out that you don't need top tier hardware to have a good gaming experience. Keep up the good work!

[@kevinlawson1746]

A channel with real advice not just a bunch of stats and numbers. Definitely refreshing.

[@falcie7743]

The bots are in full force already it seems, judging from all the ghost replies

[@jamietwigg4845]

Yeah, more and more lately

[@sirmonkey1985]

yup, they found a new way to get around the auto banning.

[@toh6082]

Ebay sellers should be writing this down.

[@adam.maqavoy]

Hi bot

[@sandosimracing8729]

Keep this type of content coming. Just as many people choose this route over buying new. Thanks Jay. Hope your health is improving each day. Cheers!

[@Dudae_]

I think the next logical step for "another one of those" is to *actually* trying to sell the extra parts and adding that experience into the whole deal. let's you know (sure, for that specific area) how much of a market there is, how to deal with troublesome buyers or how to identify if someone is actually serious about the purchase.

[@thestig007]

One of the best parts about starting out building PCs is that you can buy someone's old build and then upgrade it later on. You just have to do a little bit of research and buy the right build that has an upgrade path. Used hardware is perfectly fine, and you can get a lot for your money going on the used market. Videos like this are awesome, because it shows you don't need the latest and greatest to have a great gaming PC.

[@TM86880]

Jay, please continue with updates on these 'moderate PC builds' showing practical and useful upgrades for people who need a good 'everyday' computer without breaking the bank!

[@buddybleeyes]

2080 super was a good call, glad to see good tips like this 👌 well done Jay, I'd honestly love to see more content like this. Edit: I believe the "bigger number better" is part of the reason for the 3060 selling at a higher price. You are the only person I've seen suggest the 2080 super over the 3060. Most suggested "budget" builds I have seen either use the 6600/6600xt or 3060

[@jdnims]

yes keep up these type of videos... lots of great information to gleen from this for all kinds of folks. Tanks Jay!

[@dephindender]

These videos are great! Especially for new pc builders or even those that don't know a whole lot about what to look for. So what a great way to spotlight the used market. I have personally only ever built with brand new parts but maybe when I need an upgrade I will use the used market and give new purpose to some "old" hardware.

[@2hottdoggy]

Good stuff Jay...very helpful thank you...keep up.tge great work!👍🏽

[@Nunman1962]

Yes Jay, definitely do more of these upgrade the used PC projects! I love seeing these kind of videos to see the real performance gain!

[@DavidMartinez-se5vl]

Definitely do more of these!

[@robinsmullen]

I wish there were more relatable videos on KZbin like this. This is great for most of us who are just scraping by and hustling for small but very welocome gains. I hope you keep doing some videos like this, they're very helpful and encouraging.

[@RaffertyMB]

This was super coo! Please do a few more of these.

[@doctajuice]

Yes definitely do more of these videos this was awesome

[@olig89]

Great vid, more if this please. Constraints / goals like this make things interesting

[@agentb4074]

I absolutely LOVE this content! Would love to see more of this!

[@peterpumpkineater301]

More of these vids please, thanks!

[@bjrnsindrehydalsvik7750]

Great video, im in a prosess of upgrading my own system and getting shocked by the prices in norway right now. So found this "series" real interesseting, keep it up! :)

[@NLuKa420]

You guys should do a budget build battle. Everyone gets $800 and can spend it anyway they like, new, used or a mix of parts. Or you could do a blind taste test. Build a cheap, mid range and high end system, put them behind a curtain and then everyone uses each one to play a couple different games. Not only would it be entertaining to have all of you guys in some videos but maybe it could give people a better understanding of where they may want to sacrifice when building on a budget. I kind of experience this every couple years. When I upgrade, it means upgrades for my two boys. I already build on a budget, usually aiming around the mid range of things. My youngest is still on the FX-8350 and an RX480. My oldest is on a Ryzen 3600 and RX580. So it's definitely time to start looking at PC parts again.

[@cheapwanderer9218]

This is how I taught myself to build computers. Now I build high end computers from scratch. I love this new series. Please keep it up.

[@TechFreak94]

Definitely keep doing these!

[@samuraijaydee]

Cool video Jay. Thanks

[@olivemartini0011]

Phil losing it at Jay dropping the CPU was everything 😂

[@AdamMPick]

Touching the GPU while the PC has obviously power gives me anxiety.

[@AllHailSeizure90]

More of these would be great. A very enjoyable watch

[@cybro0079]

Great video Jay, thoroughly enjoyed it, very informative! Please move forward with this type of content, not everyone can afford the latest and greatest!!!!👍👍👍👍

[@devinsthesis]

I love these builds. I am grateful the market allows builds like this again.

[@craigells4151]

Love this video, its a good example of how someone can keep their older systems performing well for minimal cost.

[@igliggy200]

Do more of these yes. This is fun to watch.

[@israelramosrivera3989]

Yes please i need to learn more. Thanks for the info, to you and youre teams work. 👍👍

[@HexTheLegend]

20:39 i think so too. everyone can say buy the best you can afford but what actually is "the best" not only depends on the usage, but the approach you want to use aswell

[@KonglomeratYT]

"The best you can afford" sounds like terrible advice. XD Who told you that? Things need to be catered to what you plan to use your PC for. "The best" would not fit most users.

[@Just_Call_Me_Tim]

Keep stuff like this up, sir. You’ve got a great presentation style and I know these videos help people more than you may realize. While I’ve been bitten by the ITX MINI-PC bug, your “how to build a computer” video is what helped me see that I really could build my own. Great stuff! Keep up the good work!

[@QcKillswitch]

Loved that new kind of video !!

[@xBlade173]

Great video. I love secondhand upgrade/budget videos

[@Broxibear212]

Definitely more of these, really enjoyed it.

[@bulutcagdas1071]

I sold a RTX 3060 and a 5600X to a friend a bit under their 2nd hand values and upgraded to a 5800X3D and RX 7800XT. Everyone was happy in the end :)

[@thedreadedgman]

love the used content versus the latest greatest stuff

[@chrishoyt3032]

Jay I enjoy the buy used, upgrade videos like this one. Keep up the good work.

[@franciscobarreto9456]

I love this episode and would love more of these types of used parts sell vs buy in the future. Thank you

[@LockeTheCole]

I definitely enjoy these vids. It's a great idea for a series and also helpful for those who can't just get expensive new parts.

[@adiadiadifere]

yes please do more of these my favorite video of yours as of late

[@aizil7393]

More of these please Jay! Keep up the good work guys.

[@stuntWANKER]

We want more Jay. This is so relatable to the average consumer.

[@ninjaj1]

YES these videos are great for people in those situations... Bought a prebuilt, and now looking to expand !

[@notcataclysmic]

Love this style video, would like to see more!

[@kyledukes9788]

i do like this style of videos, thanks jay and crew

[@XRPSAINT]

Hell Yea!! Hoorahh!! Get some of that!! Thanks for the Every Man Upgrades!!