Intention of Falling: A Pose Method training session with Dr Nicholas Romanov

World Renowned Coach and Scientist, Dr Nicholas Romanov takes Gabriel Malloy, a cross country coach, through a brief training session. Gabriel is a runner and coach in need of improving his perception of Falling when running.
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[@stephanweaver1960]

Profound stuff not taught

[@traditionalcatholic3513]

Just to provide an update: I wrote my first message a little over a year ago. My stride is remarkably different. I’ve run some weeks of nearly 70 miles/10-ish hours. I’ve also gone from around 260-ish pounds from March 2020, to approx 167 as of today. Prayer, fasting, running, and most recently, the keto diet. Thank you again for this, and God bless you.

[@posetv]

Thank you for this great update! Keep going!

[@franky350]

i use pose for 3 years. injury free since then. thanks

[@posetv]

That's great! Thank you for sharing!

[@katzkd]

@@posetv jjjk

[@GoFartherPodcast]

This made it SOO much more doable for me!

[@kurlyone1]

Thank you.

[@traditionalcatholic3513]

I’ve had an issue for many years where I lose coordination in the left leg (i.e. appears to be aggravation of common fibular nerve due to a weak glute medius). However, I came across this video last night, and went for a 30 min run this morning. The run felt very, very different, and the leg issue barely occurred. I finally feel like I can start building some training momentum again!

[@posetv]

Thank you for sharing! We're glad it helped you!

[@traditionalcatholic3513]

@@posetv I would just like to say thank you again. This week, I’m likely to hit about 60 miles of total running volume, and I’ll be racing a 10 miler in a few weeks’ time. Thank God! Finally, I can run again. I wish I’d implemented this approach when I was younger! God bless you!

[@chasbega]

Круто! Побольше таких видео!!!!

[@dre21492]

I'm going to try this

[@VenuG0pal]

i've confusion about u need to just fall and pull support leg slightly

[@miguelmike2555]

great, thx, although it looks very easy, it is difficult to focus on pulling the foot under the hip, and not focus on pushing the front leg in the ground. This takes some time I think. Also, when falling more my heart rate goes up, is this normal? And last question: Would you recommend a 180 cadenece as well for tall runners, I am 1.86 and find it very very difficult with 180, I have to make very small steps. Thank you

[@posetv]

Bolt is a bit taller and his cadence is 260+ so yes it is doable but what regular runners (vs elite level) lack is strength and skill to maintain this level of cadence. Step length cannot be controlled so it is best to put your focus into the actual technique, i.e. how you run. Put all your focus into pulling your support foot up and maintain the running pose. You're correct - initially it is not easy and you need time to adjust. HR going up and being out of breath is absolutely normal at the beginning - it should settle as you keep on working.

[@donaldkendall2645]

I know it is quite randomly asking but do anybody know a good place to watch newly released series online ?

[@iragary8787]

@Donald Kendall Try Flixzone. You can find it on google :)

[@ernestcasey2689]

@Ira Gary definitely, I have been watching on Flixzone for years myself =)

[@donaldkendall2645]

@Ira Gary Thank you, I went there and it seems like a nice service :D I really appreciate it !

[@kjlkathandjohn6061]

I felt it today, after several years of Chi Running, and many videos and attempts at Pose, trying to "pull" the pose foot. Today I tried falling while only on one foot, but did not "pull" until my fall tore me away from the ground behind me. And then I had to move that foot up and set my other foot on new ground. The "secret" I found was that "receding ground" pulls away from my pose foot, breaking that pose, so I have to retrieve that foot and land a new pose with my other foot. So, I restarted my running, leaving my pose foot toes touching ground until I had fallen too far forward for my toes to still reach that point. I did not raise my foot until I could not feel ground. Then I raised it and set my other foot down.

[@drakondrakonych]

Насколько сильно нужно делать колени согнутыми? Меня вот так и тянет выпрямить ногу. И ещё вопрос, состояние падения нужно вообще постоянно сохранять? Или в момент постановки на опору ты на какой-то момент времени не падаешь?

[@posetv]

А вот не надо выпрямлять. И сгибать слишком много нет надобности. Сгибание позволяет нам двигаться и избежать уничтожения коленей. Когда мы держим колени слегка согнутыми то мы сохраняем компактную форму и используем меньше собственных усилий во время бега. На второй вопрос - да, надо сохранять постоянное состояние и чувство падения во время бега.

[@drakondrakonych]

@@posetv спасибо за ответ! И ещё момент по поводу коленей. Существует ли фаза полного выпрямления ноги в коленном суставе при снятии с опоры, или состояние согнутости во время бега - перманентное?

[@posetv]

@@drakondrakonych Да, постоянное. Ни один из лучших бегунов в мире, в не зависимости от дистанции или спорта, не выпрямляет колено никогда. И это было упомянуто русским ученым Фесенко ещё в 60-ые. Поскольку мало кто читает науку - мало кто это знает, a это было изучено и описано в прошлом столетии.

[@sandeepsandy4794]

Only once u fall and then work done by pulling is it right?

[@posetv]

Yes, pulling is the only action that needs to be taken.

[@yaesmucho]

@@posetv thankyou for clarification, its 11pm , in the video you said pulling and focus on the foot on the ground min 2:38 giving this a shot tomorrow....

[@nickvledder]

Dr Romanov is a genius. Apart from that. Is it possible Dr Romanov has been used as model for the movie Borat (2006)? Just wondering...

[@posetv]

🤣 anything is possible!

[@nickvledder]

@@posetv Have you ever met Sacha Baron Cohen? That would definitely solve the puzzle. 😀

[@posetv]

@@nickvledder No! Maybe one day.

[@jesselam5867]

It’s a bit hard to take away anything from this video because of the way the camera angles were shot, never really got a whole body shot of before and after, just “we have to fall” over and over again

[@onjadar]

Allow yourself to fall and don't stop falling is my big take away. In fact, I just watched this video was trying to mimic by walking, and I realised that moving forward and "falling" forward are two completely different things. Don't move forward, allow yourself to fall, and don't stop falling. I guess what this video is really trying to highlight is to make all of us aware the perception of falling.

[@saiarun9547]

Sir can I run 800 meters race also by using this method. The more I bend the faster I go?

[@posetv]

yes you can run any distance but don't bend - you must free fall forward.

[@saiarun9547]

@@posetv free fall yes 👍🏻

[@andycouldwell6507]

It’s true that if you allow yourself to fall forward you’re either 1 going to end up on the ground or 2 going to have to work hard to keep yourself in balance while accelerating or combating the wind you’ve caused in your face. The first isn’t comfortable or effective, so we opt for the second. Every runner does it automatically, no choice, physics. The falling is essential, but gives no free energy.

[@posetv]

"Every runner does it automatically, no choice, physics." That is actually not true. Some actively interfere with this and prevent the fall, so if you do a video analysis of some weekend runners, you will see zero degree of falling. "The falling is essential" - Indeed! "but gives no free energy." It's there for the taking, cost it 'know-how'.

[@user-wm1rc3kb4j]

Thank you for replying. We may be at cross purposes. The falling that I envisage is that when a foot is driving you forward, the centre of mass has to be in front of the foot, or else the feet will scuttle off in front leaving the body behind. That amounts to a lean from the foot, which I think is what you describe as falling. At a steady speed, the fall is counteracted by wind resistance. It's much the same as leaning into a gale to stay upright, except that its only a gentle breeze at the speed I run! So you can't be a weekend or any other runner with zero degrees of fall, if by that you mean that they run with centre of mass directly over the driving foot. But, yes, you will see some with an upright torso: perhaps that's what you're thinking of, but it doesn't look like it from the video.. What do you think? Andy

[@posetv]

Andy, I think before proceeding further in such conversations, it is important to establish a standard for terms and meanings used. The free falling due to gravity in any movement is when the center of mass is allowed to free fall in the desired direction.@@user-wm1rc3kb4j Body parts like legs and arms serve as parts of support system. So, the foot cannot drive you forward - you can move it forward, yes, but the feet merely provide support for the center of mass that is falling forward (in a human body that is hips/below navel area). As I mentioned earlier, it takes video analysis to see what is usually missed with a naked eye. If viewed frame by frame, you would see how many average runners prevent their own movement forward by sticking their legs forward (scissor shuffling or actually leaning back). That said, I'm not 100% clear on everything you mentioned, so perhaps it would be more conductive to this discussion if you familiarized yourself with the Pose Method of Running. Thank you.

[@andycouldwell6507]

Thank you for replying. Unfortunately, as you move your legs forward, they do work to accelerate the body, in order to prevent the body from landing on the ground. Ask a physicist, please. Andy. I do get the Pose concept, but feel that the theory isn’t consistent with physics. Doesn’t stop you from helping runners though.

[@posetv]

@@andycouldwell6507 I understand that it is difficult for you to understand this subject without actually checking out the published papers and having advanced knowledge of a combination of fields like physics, biomechanics, geometry that are involved here. This method was developed by a man with a Ph.D and the math/geometry/physics of it was worked out by him with the help of other Ph.Ds Take care Andy.

[@sandeepsandy4794]

I have doubt difference between marathon and sprinter.

[@PongGod]

This technique can be applied effectively to distance running, but not for sprinting.

[@josemarcelo9783]

@@PongGodI read the book about this method recently and it claims that every elite runner uses the same technique for running, the difference will be on the degree of this falling and how high you lift your foot when you it is not touching the ground( more degree and higher foot equals more speed)… and it also says that the leaning degree has a limit, i cant remember but its 20 degrees, passing this might cause you to hit the ground but with your face 😂

[@katzkd]

M

[@taxidriverlifeinuk2443]

I see no difference 😅😂

[@posetv]

Yes, some things in movement/sports are difficult to see for an untrained eye.

[@ratilalmakanji2372]

No difference in the whole clip

[@adolphmanager1342]

100% 😂

[@28337a]

what a bullshit

[@b1az3rqwerty52]

Why?