International 2.4mR Sailboat Project - Episode 24 - Waterlines and varnish

[@deanhallberg3340]

Hand sanding is how we love on a boat. There is no direct connection or feedback with a rotary sander. Thanks for all you share. Keep it coming!

[@johnmartin4650]

Boat looks amazing……thank you for all the episodes

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

My pleasure John

[@tedlinzy5865]

The color and patterning of that wood is absolutely beautiful!

[@lunkydog]

The stick across the milk carton bottom trick was very much appreciated. Looking good Mark.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Glad you got something useful out of this one. I learned that from Lin Pardey, a well known author of sailing/cruising books.

[@lunkydog]

@@Nomadboatbuilding There was other stuff too, like your tip on judging proper thinning. The square shape and built in brush unloading stick just really stood out to me and I thought I'd acknowledge it.

[@RagtimeBillyPeaches]

My boats were all raced, and I always brushed in the direction that water flowed over the hull.

[@RagtimeBillyPeaches]

I like the wider one better. I had the same situation on my boat, so I know all the ways to try.

[@TheThriftyWoodworker]

The mask in hindsight is a problem, but the “Socks and sandals” was a know problem at the time. Great video.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Hahaha. Well said. That is one strike against nature.

[@TrapShooter68]

Socks with flip flops works only if they're Tabi socks

[@OgamiItto70]

At least they weren't _black_ socks...

[@LarsLindqvist]

Beautiful work!

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Thank you very much! There's a man who knows what I am up against.

[@SalingSamantas]

Thank you for another great video! Lots of very useful tips. Things I would not have thought of on my own.

[@aquasol2121]

So glad I stumbled onto your channel. Haha love your Joy of painting :) And your boat is so pretty, amazing work!

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Thank you

[@aquasol2121]

@@Nomadboatbuilding I just got into boat building using bamboo so your insights are perfect. My first project was a bamboo proa and have uploaded the first video. Have you ever considered it as a material?

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

If I had a bamboo patch I would be all over that. I love the idea and sustainability of that. Of course it’s lifespan as a boat building material is short so that has to be considered. I keep a stack of bamboo poles in hand for temporary structures. Display setups, forts for the kids etc.

[@chrispomfret8592]

So satisfying.

[@billmeldrum2509]

Extraordinary!

[@Maartentje]

Looking great.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Thanks

[@andrewmctavish18]

What is the varnish called? Less gloss than Epiphnanes? Thinking about refinishing my front door in the spring 👍

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Le Tonkinois. Perhaps slightly less glossy. Easier to work with for sure from the thinning perspective alone. I would say the two are very similar as far as composition goes. They are both traditional formulas as far as I know. You can't go wrong with either but for your front door, remember that prep and then maintenance is key to longevity.

[@andrewmctavish18]

@@Nomadboatbuilding thank you

[@billlambert2092]

What is your sanding schedule as multiple varnish coats are applied?

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Generally I just use scotch bright pads until I have a few coats on. then I'll give it the once over with 220 to level it out. Apply more coats with scotch bright between then level with 320 before the final coat. Something like that.

[@skyak4493]

I am logging this video as reference for varnishing. The one question I have is about how the first coat procedure would differ if it were on to bare wood without the epoxy barrier. Would you do a very thin sealing layer first? Use a different product to seal? By the end of this 2.4M series, can you address seasonal upkeep? And long term, what is the best strip down and re-varnish plan -what attacks varnish without affecting epoxy? Very informative -thanks!

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

If I wasn’t using epoxy I usually start with a coat or two of thinned linseed oil and often thin the first coat of varnish 10-20%. I’ll try to remember to discuss seasonal upkeep but feel free to drop me a reminder when the series looks like it’s closing in on the finishing line.

[@skyak4493]

@@Nomadboatbuilding I will remind you. I am also wondering if having the prettiest boat in the fleet is a negative in racing because you can't get clean air when everyone is attracted to you.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

@@skyak4493 I suppose we’ll find out!

[@grahamm2015]

@@skyak4493 never be over the line in the pretty boat the race committee will remember you for sure 😊

[@Nedw]

I would have the same question regarding re-varnishing: isn't heat gun stripping a risk for the epoxy? Wouldn't it begin to soften and get striped too?

[@SteelDoesMyWill]

I use Epifanes more often because Letonkinois is hard to find to in SoCal. Probably because its French its easier to get in BC and I know some guys who can find it up in the PNW from that proximity. Epifanes is fantastic but if I had to pick a favorite I'd want Letonkinois, however I've used it the least because its harder to get! When the French developed Letonkinois they really went after the best (and exotic) tropical ingredients to withstand extreme sun exposure.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

I can’t find it locally myself. I order it in from Ontario. Epifanes also isn’t available from my wholesale source so I go with the one that is least harmful to work with.

[@mikefriend7570]

Did I miss a video where you covered the epoxy covering before the varnish?

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Yup. It got a first coat in the last video.

[@firstnamelastname2149]

I've always been told 1 part varnish is a no go over epoxy. What's your experience? Seems like you don't have any issues with it? Or is this varnish special?

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

It’s not special. I suspect most people’s troubles stem from amine blush and not being careful to prep the surface properly. Once the epoxy is cured, how is it ant different than any other surface. I’ve always used one part finishes over it and never had any trouble.

[@ThaJay]

It blotches if the epoxy coating doesn't cover the whole surface after sanding. I believe they did not sand through the epoxy in this case so it should be fine.

[@firstnamelastname2149]

What’s the name of that skinny blue tape you were using?

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Couldn’t say exactly but you can find it at autobody supply places. Possibly pro paint supplies as well.

[@firstnamelastname2149]

@@Nomadboatbuilding Sounds good! Now I know where to look. Thanks 😊

[@racundra]

What epoxy did you encapsulate in? I use le Tonk and I read somewhere it doesn’t play well with West System...

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

I used West System. I haven’t had any specific issues but I am careful to get rid of any possible amine blush.

[@danifem]

Sandals and socks, in a boatbuilding shop 🤣

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Don’t get me started. If that guy had shown up with the bun on the top of his head instead of the back…deal killer. That said, he was a very nice guy. I was happy for the help.

[@tallboy3558]

Once again a great video, I’ve been watching your other content as you suggested enjoying that too just wondering how you would get the water line without laser??

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Hop on over to my Patreon page where I discuss exactly that in the accompanying discussion for that video. It’s publicly accessible. You don’t need a Patreon membership to view it.

[@PowerPete999]

I'm wondering why you actually need a waterline on a racing boat, is it just for aesthetics or tradition?

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Yes, exactly that.

[@damiensmithdesign7505]

On a race boat the bottom shold be extreamly fair which can mean using filler. paint can be a great way of hiding the bog

[@soylentgreen326]

When Dick Rutan and Jeana Yeager were building the the non refueled non stop round the world flight *Voyager* airplane they had a five minute rule _in the shop longer than five minutes, put them to work_ As for masks we are all grown and responsible for our own well-being. Nice Bob Ross reference 😁😂 Looks amazing. "Eat recycled food it good for the planet and OK for you"

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

That’s a good shop policy. I'll get a sign on the wall today.

[@brianrobertson6475]

SANDING: I don't know how you can hand sand without nytril gloves. It dries my hands out to the point the skin splits at the corners of my thumb-nail tip. VIDEOS: I'm helping a friend with this and assuming you're a Windows guy... How much time do you think you spent in post production on this video and what vid-editing app do you use.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

I guess my hands are just used to the sanding. I couldn’t do it with gloves easily. I’m a Mac guy. I use Final Cut Pro X. I used to clock an hour of editing per minute of finished video. Now I think I put in about half that depending on quality of footage and sound issues. I’m editing about two or three hours every day. I take Sunday off though.

[@brianrobertson6475]

@@Nomadboatbuilding Excellent! I kinda figured you're about half on the edit time... Half an hour per minute is reasonable as your videos are very high quality which is evident.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

@@brianrobertson6475 good to know. I have had no idea if I’m working fast or slow.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Now your name looks familiar to me but I obviously can’t remember everyone that comments. Didn’t you tell me in some earlier comment that you had a career in tv or film?

[@brianrobertson6475]

@@Nomadboatbuilding Ha! (sorry..) nooo. I'm just an insanely curious woodworker. I did build a steam generator based on yours that pretty cool if I do say so...

[@johnmartin4650]

Inspite of what you said……wear a mask for sanding !!?!

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Yes of course. You only ever see me without one because I need to deliver some information for the sake of the camera. I'm normally always masked up for all sanding, cutting and finishing operations.

[@makhoe1]

first

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Well done.🥇🏆