Interview with Dave Smith at the Libertarian Party National Convention

[@elck3]

Dave Smith Rocks

[@lakshmiu1841]

sounds same like a loony left. Fake authority. Fake talking points. Low IQ.

[@microsoftpain]

Dave told the crowd to be civil and not act like children, and they didn't even listen to him. 💀It just made more people hate libertarians. Good job, guys.. 😐

[@Shoutinthewind]

Idk what Trump expected going to beg for votes from people who know he is every bit the enemy as Biden is.

[@thomasjerry652]

Not a trump supporter but that was embarrassing. Why invite someone and boo him relentlessly? Like him or not he did raise a few good points, Free Ross, no cbdc, no lockdowns, no wars, a libertarian in his cabinet, etc. What are libertarians looking for? The perfect candidate doesn't exist. Get what you can. That was embarrassing. And then nominate, Chase lol 🤡

[@OurNewestMember]

Free Ross sounds like a cheap campaign promise from him. Trump gets credit for showing up. It was a risk. He was ungracious but correct about picking a candidate who will actually win. It's tough for libertarians because the other parties are so far apart from what they're advocating, and the massive political complex has done much more to brainwash people into thinking that controlling your own life is foreign and dangerous. So libertarians have a larger barrier to accepting what looks like just another shitty option that will strip people of their birthright to make their own decisions in the short time before they die.

[@tonyyayo2883]

Then they go on to nominate Chase, the communist 😂

[@chesscomsupport8689]

You can criticize Chase if you want, but he is about as communist as he is heterosexual.

[@user-qr7xk4fz7t]

As an Independent for 20+ years, Dave has had me curious about the Libertarian Party for about the last 4 years. Electing Chase Oliver is the final nail in the coffin for any party affiliation I will likely ever be interested in. Nope and Never.

[@chuckecheese5251]

Charles Balley has 7 times his votes but not as many delegates idk how the libertarian party functions

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

Who would ever speak to the Libertarians again if all they'll get is boos. Hard to take the Libertarians as serious.

[@georgefeehly2993]

They say Democracy every chance they get. It's a Constitutional Republic, representing EVERYBODY instead of just the violent hordes.

[@OurNewestMember]

And anyway "democracy" has become code for "we're going to buy off your oligarchs -- in government and business, illicit or not, and in religion and culture if needed -- and then we will stage "popular rule" It's code for "we will buy the place and then pretend that the populace is controlling things"

[@wildemthefem5773]

Dave Smith is the only reason my guy and I came over to believing in libertarian ideals. To all the haters, we aren’t the only ones. People have been ignoring the party for years, and Dave had done an amazing job of getting the message out. Even if you don’t agree with all his stances, you should at least acknowledge his accomplishments and get over your differences. The internal hate is making the party look like a joke on the national stage.

[@anthonystevens7594]

This sucks bc I love Dave but “he came to us asking for votes and we said no……and gave them to Chase Oliver”?🤔

[@acendiatmedia8747]

Yep epic failure.

[@admorse77]

That's a super simplified deduction, and as a result is completely inaccurate.

[@oernzz]

i´m from europe, so libertarian ideas are not build-in, but on a wide range i do believe that this is the way. big respect to dave smith, ron paul, etc. on the other hand, i have some things where i can´t agree. f.e. to say that trump made the ukraine-thing more worse than any1 other is mind boggling. i remember when mccain and many other neo-cons where on maidan with pockets full of money to stir shit up. i remember that obama provoked russia on time after another...what about that nato took almost all of east europe in a couple of years? always with that in-your-face mentalaty. yes, trump didn´t made the situatian realy better...but he was for sure not the one who made the situation more worse than anybody else. i do believe that libertarians and republicans should form a coalition, an alliance. on many topics they are like brothers...some others not so much, i agree. but, if u wana change things you have to convince people. this effort is alot easier if the one´s you want to convince, trust you and are certain that you act in good faith. rino´s and neocons have a big influence in the gop, it would be better for everybody if the libertarians could squeze them out, or at least shrink them to a small degree....yes, you wouldn´t be the purists anymore, maybe some of the moral highground would melt. but you would for sure get alot more things done - good things... and many bad things you could prevent from happening.

[@OurNewestMember]

I don't think he said Trump did the most damage in Ukraine, just that this was one area where he wasn't as bad but still not good. Your analysis overall seems pretty reasonable

[@oernzz]

@@OurNewestMember maybe i missunderstood what was said @ ~ 6:15 to 6:35...as you could probably tell english is a foreign language to me :) thnx for the compliment

[@OurNewestMember]

@@oernzz yeah -- I understood it as "Trump was bad on Ukraine" but not actually saying he's the most responsible. Maybe just a small difference in interpretation -- anyway your comment was very refreshing. It seems really thoughtful and intelligent and is very much appreciated!

[@OurNewestMember]

@@oernzz if you don't mind my asking where you're from? Are people where you live interested in politics (especially for the US)? Or just your personal interest? Your comment seems much more thoughtful than most, so I'm wondering if that is related to culture or a personal attribute. Obviously no obligation to share personal info; I was just curious!

[@oernzz]

@@OurNewestMember born, raised and still live in austria. afaik most people here dont really care about politics.. its propably the same in US... thanks again for the kind words!

[@CutieSenussi]

why does this guy always wear college jackets with no collar?

[@WPWill]

Ron Paul is THE MAN

[@anthonystevens7594]

Indeed he is lol.

[@NathanCline12-21]

Libertarians choosing Chase Oliver as their POTUS nominee is why I am an anarchist.

[@nobu1730]

are you nuts? current libertarian party is literally overtaken by the anrachists. there is no party that represents true libertarians.

[@DrugsForRobots]

The ballot was 44% Rectenwald, 5% NOTA, and 49% Chase. Which forced a final ballot of Chase v NOTA and it ended 60/40. Half of the LP did not want Chase. We ended up with Chase because the Mises/Austrians didn't show up strong enough, meanwhile just enough of the liberal libertine lolberts did. If the Anarchists joined the Austrians (Mises) then we could actually make the LP something serious.

[@anthonystevens7594]

@@DrugsForRobotsHonestly not trying to be confrontational, I’m just trying to get it. But my understanding was the Mises ppl had taken over the party? All I’ve heard for a year is how things have changed, The Libertarian Party’s going to be serious now, etc. then we get here n Chase Oliver? Did the Mises ppl just take their power for granted or do they have far less power than the thought? From what people such as Dave Smith have been saying I thought enough people had already coalesced to kick out the old guard?

[@DoctorMandible]

Chase won by a slim margin. Needed just a few more Mises

[@CTomCooper]

@@DrugsForRobots I feel like this is saying the obvious, but if Dave was without any immediate family obligations and had run instead? Man, that would have definitely gotten people to show up and support him.

[@anglodoomer5995]

Cute couple

[@tylermcphee4358]

Dave is real!

[@joecoolmccall]

I was reading the group chat as the speech was occuring, and the chat was totally confused as to the "End the Fed" chant. There was a major disconect.

[@discerningmood2674]

Left the party after this convention. They can fail on their own, I don’t want to be associated with them anymore

[@michaeldoran4367]

I met a libertarian once. He had his friend, his wife, me, and my wife over for dinner. When I found out that he met his friend at some type of libertarian convention, I asked if he liked Ron Paul, and he said no. I didn't ask further, because I had total douch bag vibes all night from this guy. I don't understand how you call yourself a libertarian and don't like Ron Paul.

[@ronp1524]

Trump was invited by the Libertarian Party was treated abysmally . They were absolutely childish in their treatment of a guest . Any one ascribing to the beliefs should be ashamed by this group. Many people previously felt some kinship to what they thought was libertarianism but I think Libertarians are now seen as just another one of these groups we see disrupting colleges , blocking streets etc . They are an embarrassment .

[@sciencefaction2646]

Trump stood by as Fauci shut down our entire way of life. He props up the MIC, gave Warp Speed to Pharma conglomerates, and hired goons (Bolton, Barr, Pompeo, Wray etc) to fill up the government instead of draining the swamp. The guy's a clown who lied. Biden is terrible for the country, but it's time to wake up and realize Trump is as much for the Uniparty as the rest of them.

[@bobbycake8077]

Accept they didn’t do any off the things you said . ( but let me guess you feel they did )So who is the leftist ?

[@matthewsands3591]

He refused to debate or face any questions. He just came to make a speech. He left libertarians no alternative for expressing their distaste for his overtly anti libertarian practices and promises. If he just wants to be cheered by mindless sycophants then he can stick to his MAGA rallies.

[@wills2408]

I didn't know he was invited by them That makes their booing disgusting

[@CTomCooper]

The libertarian party for as long as the two party system exists will always end up struggling carrying the baggage that is disaffected voters. Libertarianism is one thing, and to be honest the LP ought to be a segway into delving into the philosophy since the most sound and civil libertarians are of the well read and scholarly type. When there’s only the civil libertarian whose passionate based on one or another coalition issues, they remain trapped in a small political corner. So in a case like this where the opportunity arises, a libertarian with an activist mindset will more likely lash out when the chance afforded to climb the ladder of status presents itself. Removing politics, it’s like a survival mechanism seen from desperate people who might gang up on someone whom they perceive as a threat based on their practically being better off, and people are human beings with animalistic tendencies as much as higher cognitive abilities at the end of the day. It’s feral behavior that has all the more to do with being libertine, and not libertarian. Xavier Milei knew how to play it smart where asked about Trump, and his comments were to hopefully push Trump towards a libertarian direction by denouncing socialism. The fact that the LP did not emulate that same behavior shows that while at least the Mises Caucus did successfully take over the national level of the party, the fact that the convention was held in DC which probably increased the chances of keeping tensions high(a mistake caused by the decision of the old LP guard) just shows that the LP os still weighed down by the wider political climate produced by the DNC and GOP.

[@robinsonjohn4975]

I'm a Libertarian and I am voting for Donald Trump! You have to work with others to make advancements, It's your choice!

[@kylewatson5133]

Then you're not a libertarian. No sane person who understands: A) Your vote doesn't actually matter. and B) Donald Trump means bigger government and more socialism would then vote for a Trump or Biden.

[@CTomCooper]

Trump’s big issue or flaw rather which he showed at the end of his term with Covid is that if he is pushed hard enough he will cave in.

[@overkill1025]

@@kylewatson5133 you cant live in theory

[@kylewatson5133]

@@overkill1025 Look around, corruption everywhere, it's not a theory. Government doesn't work stop voting for Rs and Ds

[@acendiatmedia8747]

​@@kylewatson5133 you might have an argument if the Libertarian nominee was a libertarian. You are an idiot to shame people for actually trying to Advance libertarianism instead of sabotaging it. A non libertarian listening to us is better than a fake libertarian who gets us nothing but damage to our credibility.

[@thegniffen4645]

Cool interview. Dave rocks! Good job!

[@lakshmiu1841]

Trump rocks.

[@uncommonlyaverage5708]

The LP blew the best chance they've ever had at being relevant. Just because free speech enables derision, does not mean insults are the most effective form of speech. The LP attendees who disrespectfully booed and shouted down President Trump made themselves no better, in fact worse than, the college campus marxists who deny others a chance to speak. Libertarians should welcome and encourage debate and dissenting views. There was no excuse for their caustic behavior. After this childish behavior, the LP has sealed their fate as hypocrites and clowns who will never truly champion freedom and liberty, nor will they attract or educate others to those principles. They are repulsive.

[@mitchelltriplett7974]

Trump lost to a gay gun lover. That must hurt.

[@TheDuckofDoom.]

The LP will continue long after Trump has faded from memory. You sportsball fools don't understand that the purpose of organizations like the LP has very little to do with being electected at any cost. There are already two parties for people that don't care about the long term effect as long as their mascot is elected.

[@CTomCooper]

@@mitchelltriplett7974Jo Jorgensen’s campaign showed enough reason as to why clout chasing online towards socially left leaning causes doesn’t work. It doesn’t gain traction or retain interest. It just plays on the algorithm to ride the wave of larger businesses that abide by allowable opinions. Oliver the selected nominee has his introductory sound bite slogan as “armed and gay”. One could not be more DC beltway if they tried.

[@mitchelltriplett7974]

@CTomCooper because saying don't be racist, or being gay, is somehow worse than funding endless wars and $8 tril in deficits... cool story, Bro.

[@CTomCooper]

@@mitchelltriplett7974”Don’t be racist” in a current climate where all that racism means when used in accusation is merely that someone disagrees with or more likely dislikes someone else, usually for expediency’s sake to appease a collective. The meaning of the word is lost because it’s devolved as a tool to divide. Playing into that narrative as it is constructed and presented by larger political and corporate institutions is to play into being sidelined. Which is what those institutions would want. Choosing not to see that is either out of apathy, or stubbornness, either of which has nothing to do with the libertarian message.

[@myrealfakename6068]

Eric July / Maj Toure 2028

[@CTomCooper]

Eric July gets it. Aim to influence and make an impact through culture, by being a capitalist. Growing culture in a way that’s genuinely more productive will sift through all of the political discourse that only drums up reoccurring divisions that wastes time and energy. The LP as a sort of microcosm that’s somewhat reflective of the wider political climate with disaffected voters arriving into the party suffers from libertines versus libertarians; virtually two distinct cultural outlooks that demonstrably cannot coexist.

[@acendiatmedia8747]

The attention would have been great if the nominee was a complete embarrassment. Why not ask for the nomination, it's not like a libertarian even got nominated. Our IQ is higher? We look like idiots after this weekend!

[@renzomatunogz556]

It’s sad that Dave Smith still cares what legacy media had to say about the event. I thought they didn’t matter anymore?! it’s a cheap shot, obviously they will grab the opp to insult djt no matter how insignificant it may be.objectively djt did well despiite the boos (which are justifiable btw). the guy had a lot of mistakes after all. but at this point you’re left with choosing the lesser evil

[@acendiatmedia8747]

When did he say legacy media?

[@renzomatunogz556]

his video after trump’s libertarian appearance, he namedrops along list of legacy media outlets like cnn, wapo, nyt, etc. that reported about the event with glee.

[@acendiatmedia8747]

@renzomatunogz556 so not this video? He isn't excited about the legacy media. He is excited about the people who are watching. What's so hard to understand about this?

[@renzomatunogz556]

of course it’s nice that the libertarian party got the exposure they wanted! as a fan of Dave, what im saying is, i thought it is sad to see that other video where he appears to be hung up on what legacy media has to say by namedropping all of them. and he’s not the only who does that, even bigger podcasters can’t move past what they say is a dying industry. i was hoping he’d be true to his branding which is a common-sense intellectual libertarian who doesn’t give two shits about legacy media garbage reporting. that’s it!

[@acendiatmedia8747]

@renzomatunogz556 dude, read what you wrote. You are contradicting yourself. He isn't hung up on the legacy media it's the exposure that you yourself just said is nice.

[@RealChoice1776]

There won’t be an America 🇺🇸 it we all can’t comprise

[@boscobeans]

Well said.

[@bobbycake8077]

There won’t be a America if we keep compromising

[@OurNewestMember]

Ship of Theseus -- what is "America" if the rules and laws and values are compromised away? It really depends on the things that are being "compromised" (and that even assumes a fair compromise not under fraud or duress)

[@frankdrolet9439]

Dave Smith is amazing, but the LP is really just a bunch of idiots, they just lost their only opportunity to have any representations ever, well-done guys!

[@matthewwach7693]

Still better than the Republican or democratic base. The LP doesn't compromise on their fundamental principles. Trump was openly bribing them for their votes.

[@gingermon]

Their current presidential nominee shows the LP isn’t libertarian. Trump or sitting this one out again. My lord.

[@carsonwentz8301]

Sitting it out is the best AND most impactful

[@CTomCooper]

@@gingermonEric July is the only libertarian who really gets it. Tom Woods in a similar manner, since he does help and insist on supporting people to live practically freer lives through life classes he organizes.

[@frankwren8215]

Dave Smith has said numerous times that the time isn't right for the LP nomination, and while I feel that's correct because Trump will win and thus it would be a waste of time, the fact that Chase is the nominee has basically killed at least half of the support the LP could have had this election, thus making the LP essentially irrelevant again. The fact that Chase is the nominee is utterly revolting, a true massive middle finger to the people who have actually supported the LP in recent years. I personally am done with the LP, it's clearly totally infiltrated by the extreme authoritarian left. I'm not interested in fighting within this nonsense party anymore, we need a new party. Call it the Ron Paul party. The fact of the matter is that the LP does not elect libertarian candidates.

[@blackflash747]

Dave = 🐐

[@bigqueue]

It is a bit embarressing to hear that the party invited simeone to speak and instantly gave him boo's....seems acbit childish, and isn't a good look good to the average person. In fact, i scoured the mainstream media for info on the libertarian nominee, snd that was seemingly uncovered....im not sure this tactic did anything good for the party....sadly, it seems like a sort of big tent circus act.

[@mustardgenes]

Trump asked for libertarian nomination but didn't file the paperwork. That's his campaign, empty words.

[@justinmadrid8712]

And the Libertarian candidate is a mask wearing, vaccine boosted, open borders, LBGTQ supporter.

[@TheDuckofDoom.]

Exactly why his "offer" was boo'd. A bunch of nonspecific nothings.

[@justinmadrid8712]

@@TheDuckofDoom. Trump was very specific lol. Many Libertarians are just too stupid to accept Trump is the closest to Libertarianism that you will ever get. Just look at them, fat women with orange hair. Sad.

[@candiceperkins4316]

This didn’t age well

[@tommalone58]

delighted that Dave final acknowledged that Israel could defend themselves, as for Mises nothing but constitutionalist Republicans

[@TheDuckofDoom.]

I haven't followed the LP mises caucus issue too close (like specific people involved) and I know there was a bit too much lefty infiltration for a few years. But most fans of Mises, and Ludwig himself, tend toward voluntaryist more than modern republican. I know the Republicans have been desperately trying to annex and corrupt the libertarian community for over a decade rather than clean up their own act, much like they did with the Tea party except not successful this time. This attempt at annexation was part of why the LP moved more left, another part was that the '08 and '12 Ron Paul campaigns distracted a lot of libertarians from the LP which created an undefended flank that allowed the radicals to slip in. Similarly the Republican denial of problems in their own house is where Trump got his foot in the door. The problem when a party is the size of the LP is that they want a big tent to keep growing, but they are also becoming publicly known enough to attract a lot of kooks while not yet big enough to buffer the problems brought by said kooks.

[@tommalone58]

@@TheDuckofDoom. one wonders where all the free market , limited gov Republicans have gone, if there isnt a large vote there between them and LP supporters id be surprised.

[@acendiatmedia8747]

Are you proud of being dishonest?

[@PhoenixBicycle]

👎

[@alanblanes2876]

Trump had no excuse for cutting out the Afghan govt and Afghan people when he made his private, thoughtless deal with the Taliban. Vote for Kennedy to get coherent, well thought-through policies.

[@sciencefaction2646]

Plus he stood by and let Fauci shut down our entire society. RFK ALL THE WAY

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

A vote for Kennedy is a vote for Biden or Trump depending on the county you live in. That's a fact.

[@boscobeans]

Vote for Kennedy and no need to even wait for the results.

[@Dixon_Gaper]

Anti Gun / open boarder / Isreal boot licker ..... Kennedy

[@TheDuckofDoom.]

@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Not really. Besides, in a practical matter RFK is likely to overtake Biden in the polls over the summer as Dems start to wake up to the condition of their candidate.

[@Loyal_and_Fierce]

Dave Smith Sucks

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

And you blow and swallow

[@johnliberty3647]

Weirdo

[@chriss.8582]

Your mom sucks.

[@FreeMenDieFree]

Icon suggest this user denies objective reality

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

Does everyone with critical thought suck to you?

[@craiglittle7367]

Cry harder. Cope and seethe, Dave. Mises takeover failed.

[@DoctorMandible]

Tell that to Angela

[@craiglittle7367]

@@DoctorMandible The entire point of the takeover was to elect a Mises POTUS and VP candidate in 2024. They failed. I’m actually surprised the body reelected her chair. Although the VC and treasurer are not Mises.

[@CTomCooper]

So extremely petty. It’s like those who are more so libertines rather than libertarians just want to drag others into the mud. Putting up beltway candidates is to put aside having an unapologetic speaker.

[@craiglittle7367]

@@CTomCooper Chase ain’t a beltway candidate. lol

[@CTomCooper]

@@craiglittle7367When you have a Gadsden flag or the silhouette of a handgun with lgbt colors incorporated into an image, who is that attempting to appeal to? A single digit percentage of the entire US population? Wasn’t Jorgensen’s campaign enough of a demonstration as to why championing allowable opinions as if to lend credibility to one’s ideological stances to the wrong people in circles of influence and power does not work in bringing in let alone retaining support? Initially I wasn’t too critical of Jorgensen’s campaign until it became clear how badly it was being handled at the end. But it’s overall the insistence to repeat the past that’s nothing but being beltway as a tactic. Being an activist that will make the effort to look presentable to the wrong people in circles of influence for their approval on live television is a far cry from being an unapologetic speaker who would call for ending the wars and ending the Fed. The latter is culturally relevant. The former isn’t.

[@elck3]

Dave Smith Rocks

[@CTomCooper]

Him, Tom Woods, and Eric July are my favorites.

[@acendiatmedia8747]

​@@CTomCooper and one of them should have stepped up to run instead of leaving it to Rectenwald. Nothing against him but he is a horrible speaker. This was important for the furore of the party and they didn't step up.