INTERVIEW with Pierre Poilievre

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation sat down with Conservative Party Leadership Candidate Pierre Poilievre to talk about key taxpayer issues like what he would do to balance the budget, make life more affordable and find savings if he was elected prime minister.

[@kimdamour3463]

Don't disappoint us Pierre.

[@m.vonhollen6673]

I think he’s too smart to do that.

[@Diademic111]

yes please remember that you are a Conservative after you win the leadership bid

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

do have hope he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@bwilly4503]

More rich people rhetoric,! It's all drug addicts and waitresses that dont want to work! That's why the economy is bad! Snivel, snivel! (The conservatives are apping the Republicans so much, I'm surprised they dont worry about monkey pox!) Lol!

[@halielouya453]

Given that Pierre marched with the Terrorists on the Canada Day Weekend does you he plan to go to the local police station on September 11 to protest and terrorize the police with his anarchist friends???

[@alexsandersmith1880]

Trudeau says'" we are working hard for Canadians". Translation , we are working to make it hard on Canadians.

[@smashy_smasherton]

I thought he said he had a hard on for Canadians.

[@chrisgraham2904]

Every policy implemented by Trudeau, that I can recall in recent years, is applying the brakes to the Canadian economy. The big foot has to come off of the brake pedal and move to the accelerator. Canada has enormous potential that is being retarded by this current government. Pierre is the only politician that seems to get it.

[@Herbwise]

As will PP. He may not intend to but his economics stinks worse than Trudeau’s and Freeland’s.

[@alexsandersmith1880]

@@Herbwise Just say no to drugs.

[@tripleseven8361]

…and Trudeau, isn’t included in the “we”!

[@JeffToxicity]

Can't wait to Vote for Pierre Poilievre. He has the most logical platform.

[@robertnorris9152]

Great comment, Jeff! Let's hope that the vast majority of Canadians will feel the same way as you and I do - especially on the day of the next federal election!!

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Including cheer-leading for domestic terrrorists with ties to white supremacy? Logic with right-wingers? The most emotional crybabies out there. The political party that has been virulently anti-science for more than a decade.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

They got 35% of the popular vote last election and Poilievre moving the Conservative party much further right will probably reduce that number significantly. Also the Conservatives' base is elderly people that are dying off with every passing day (accelerated by right-wing COVID disinformation). So hoping for >50% seems optimistic, but Conservatives aren't great at Math (or Science).

[@sorshiaemms5959]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 WOW A KNOW ALL CAN YOU PROVE YOUR STATEMENTS ONE THING WE KNOW LIBERALS ARE NOT IS LOGICAL AND THERE MATH IS THE ECONOMY WILL FIX ITS SELF ALSO THING ARE SWINGING BACK TO THE RIGHT

[@etherealfoxproductions]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 Would you consider the Liberals the better alternative?

[@padimills1494]

Pierre is so right. I used to work in the Movie Industry and I was working all year long. I spoke to my accountant and he told me if I only worked 6 months a year I would have a lot more money in my pocket. So this is what I did. Canadian taxes have made us totally unproductive.

[@scottcolpitts8521]

Yup I do the same damn thing. There's a point in earning high income where you see diminishing returns. Basically working for nothing depending on which province you live. Some doctors pay 55 percent tax. Disgusting!

[@bobgillis1137]

Some years ago, Canada's used to accept "forward averaging" deductions to address employment scenarios of having variable incomes from year to year. In a way RRSPs do a similar function. The idea was to spread the income gleaned in rich years, to the thin years. My plan was to eventually utilize this system. By the time I started making peak labour wages, the deduction system had vanished. And like you say, they also penalized my substantial overtime by taxing it to death. After a while, I also chose to work only seasonally, but mostly as a lifestyle choice. My deductions from income often amounted to more than 50% of my paycheque.

[@padimills1494]

@@bobgillis1137 Yes that's what taxing to much does. It forces us to become unproductive.

[@lovitz69]

Most film people these days are working through their own corps for this reason. Even PAs are incorporated these days.

[@SM-pv4sn]

A friend of mine told me his accountant said the same thing. He was working lots of overtime in the oil patch, worked his farm when he was off shift, and his accountant said he's losing so much now in taxes that every dollar he earns from his overtime was just going straight to the government. He was working for free, so he cut back his hours. It's absolutely insane just how over-taxed Canadians are, especially the most productive and hardest working. Trudeau has to go.

[@dizzyowl76]

I learned more in this interview than all of the debates combined.

[@lizliz4186]

Because there's no one to challenge him? Fact check him?

[@catinthehat5080]

That's because debates are a complete waist of time with very little important information. Pierre for PM !

[@lindystanway8110]

@@lizliz4186 what are you talking about?? For christ sake we're living the facts he's talking about!!!! What colour is the sky in YOUR world?????????????

[@wblack4337]

Should see his interview with Jordan Peterson

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

@@lindystanway8110 Admitting you have no critical thinking skills is not the flex you think it is.

[@scottcrawford1913]

Basing politician's pay raises on the average Canadians increases in disposable income is a brilliant idea that is long overdue.

[@halielouya453]

Given that Pierre marched with the Terrorists on the Canada Day Weekend does you he plan to go to the local police station on September 11 to protest and terrorize the police with his anarchist friends???

[@jeffhack6839]

Talk is cheap and ALL political POS can AND are purchased at a horrendous cost to the citizen. Insider trading by introducing BILLS while writing the laws. PRIOR KNOWLEDGE. PP wife is the money laundering arm of WEF monies. Prove me wrong!!!!!

[@rickrobitaille8809]

🎯💥🇨🇦😁

[@soon252]

Finally a politician who answers very straightforward. No Ahh… ahh…ahhh.

[@robertnorris9152]

You are so right! Arrogant Justin Trudeau is full of "uh, uh, uh" in just about every sentence as well as LIES!

[@gustavohermandio1440]

you see eeeh, politicians eeeh we sometimes like to eeeh have time to think eeeh to what eeeh were gona say - justin flation

[@sapporoichiban3612]

@gustavo hermandio. Who are you voting for?

[@joannebaird4946]

Get a real reporter and ask the hard questions. This was slow pitch softball questions from some fake news channel.

[@chinchc.5688]

@@joannebaird4946 Absolutely fake.

[@emperoralvis6559]

I remember back in 2018 when I first heard of Pierre, that I was shocked to see a politician seem human and have some understanding of economics. And I was thrilled when I heard he was running for conservative leader.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Nobody heard of Poilievre before he started cheer-leading for domestic terrorists. Steven Harper was an Economist, by the way.

[@emperoralvis6559]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 Awww that's rich coming from a liberal, who cheered on as Trudeau gave $10,000,000 to a CONVICTED terrorist, Omar Khader. But no, you're right. Those EVIL truckers who stand up for freedom instead of Trudeau's whims are the real terrorists.

[@stevestav7689]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 the only domestic terrorists are your Trudum and Freescum . That is the largest and most teasonous duo in Canadian history

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

@@stevestav7689 See most people will see the bat-shit crazy supporters that Poilivre attracts and notice the similarities between them and Trump's MAGA Deplorables. That will turn off huge swathes of the electorate. Women, any ethnic minority, indigenous, families that immigrated to Canada somewhat recently will vote against him. The Proud Boys have been declared a terrorist organization by the government so the two you falsely mentioned are not the only ones. Right-wingers, man, it's like talking to toddlers.

[@fireofhislove3395]

Watching Pierre ask Bill Morneau, "When will the budget be balanced?" is the greatest moment in Canadian Parliament.

[@chinchc.5688]

PP is a big mouth is all. From moms basement to being a millionaire all on the public dime. The federal government posted a surplus of $5.3 billion for the first two months of the 2022-23 fiscal year. In its monthly fiscal monitor report, the Finance Department says the tally compared with a deficit of $23.8 billion for the same period of 2021-22.Jul 29, 2022

[@mialotusmusic]

This is brilliant! Great solutions for canada! Pierre got my vote!

[@giselledemers5195]

Great video. Thank you for keeping Canadians well informed.

[@flyguy2919]

You Sir, have my vote.

[@robertnorris9152]

Hopefully the vast majority of Canadians will also vote for Pierre Poilievre or the Conservative party in the next federal election!

[@tanujaunhelkar4816]

Excellent Interview!! Pierre for PM!!

[@robertnorris9152]

I agree with you completely, Tanuja - Pierre for PM! Tell all of your friends to vote CONSERVATIVE in the next federal election and hopefully, we will finally see the end of arrogant, self-serving Justin Trudeau and his corrupt, lying Liberal party!!

[@benjaminjeffery6873]

Amazing to see a MP and potential PM doing long from podcast. Let’s go Pierre! Individual > Government. Let’s make government smaller again. And although not mentioned in this video, Pierre has unapologetically citied Thomas Sowell In campaign videos, and I absolutely recommend everyone read his books.

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

do have hope he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@traviscutler9912]

@ASH Polllievere will do what every single conservative government ever has done. Cut taxes for the wealthy, services for us and blame the previous government for why they didn't do anything they promised. Wash, rinse and repeat. The system works.

[@pilotbarbie]

Great interview. Pierre, if he is true to his word, will make Canada Great Again!

[@jacksparrow3025]

I wish he would outlaw lobbying. It's just a rebranded word for bribing.

[@billfarley9167]

IF!

[@chinchc.5688]

When was the last time you thought Canada was great? We have the highest GDP in our history. We have reduced child poverty. What this greatness you speak of?

[@carlmartel8510]

Defund the RCMP!.....create a new security force that defends the constitution and people of Canada NOT THE POLITICIANS

[@carlmartel8510]

@HellYeaNixon yes, well it's time to CLEAR OUT PARLIAMENT HILL,,,,,,and I dont care where they displace the criminal MPs, send them to Nunavut

[@sapporoichiban3612]

@Carl Martel. Further north.

[@carlmartel8510]

@@sapporoichiban3612 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....Russia?.....better.....just dump them on the other side.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Typical right-wing hypocrisy.

[@carlmartel8510]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 typical left wing comment,,,,,,doesnt even know what a hypocrite is

[@dario1965]

After this interview, I am even more convinced that voting for Pierre was a right decision. I was waiting for some concrete, more specific political program information.

[@Herbwise]

You can fool some of the people all of the time. Do not be fooled by these two. Their economics are what Pierre Trudeau introduced in the 70s and 80s and have made inequality grow greater.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

You will be waiting a while, as all he has is buzzwords like "Freedom", not specific policies.

[@cindy6101]

Great to see Pierre on your show!!🌞 He’s got my vote 🗳, both in his bid for leadership of the Conservative party and for Prime Minister 😁 Here’s a man who actually knows how the economy works; he’s a very intelligent man 😃

[@jamessparham5762]

I actually schedule days off to reduce hours worked and pay less income tax. Rather be home banking what I already earned then working just to pay a higher income tax rate. Got keep the government's hands out of my pockets somehow. Also defunding the CBC needs to be the very first action taken. Zero media subsidies. If the media group has an honest reporting reputation then they shouldn't have an issue keeping viewership and advertising revenue going up. The press is the public's failsafe and absolutely needs to be seperate from goverment completely.

[@carlmartel8510]

Want to keep their hands out of your pocke......then STOP PAYING TAXES

[@mcjesus5603]

So true. Also make sure they can’t be bought by corporations because that’s real bad aswell. Case n point, CNN,MSNBC,FOX Make sure the news reports all facts and data with the least amount of propaganda and unthought opinions. Global news isn’t terrible tho.

[@rebeccavansant1896]

Awesome interview. Thank you for sharing this video with folks.

[@shanewoolsey940]

Transfer payments? I'm a 57 year old Albertan who quit school to go framing houses. I still frame houses, I love it. However, I don't like my hard earned money going to special interest groups or crown corporation (CBC) that never say a good word for us, or actively try to shut us down. How about this. We all pay 10% federal, 10% provincial and 5% goes to where ever we choose, and we get to make that 5% choice when we file? I'm Albertan, I was raised to not trust federal politics.

[@ericlavoie4697]

would make everyone equal in this country and bring us stronger together

[@ferociousgustafson4040]

Sounds fair.

[@traviscutler9912]

He doesn't control world commodity prices, he doesn't control supply chain bottle necks and he voted for "money printing" in the Harper government. Just a bunch of vague cliches without any verifiable plans that could be measured and therefore never be held accountable. Nope, just empty rhetoric held together by a dislike of Trudeau and the "elites" who Pierre Polllievere has worked in government for his entire life. The system works.

[@alexklozano]

The issue with straight line taxes is that they are regressive by nature. If you are a hard working middle class individual, you would advocate for progressive taxes. This would likely be anyone within the first two tax brackets, which I think is around $100k a year.

[@Herbwise]

Not one penny of your hard earned money goes to any of those things. Like PP and Terrazzanno you do not understand the difference between your own spending and debt and the federal govt spending and debt. They are different because the federal govt creates the currency every time it spends.

[@doubledown8250]

Will you screen everyone to ensure they are NOT affiliated with the WEF?

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he his part of WEF he is a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@chevarie2008]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/epXMo4qHjbNoibs

[@chevarie2008]

I'm too tired of repeating myself but I just posted links.everyone is fixated on the WEF when it is in fact both the UN/WEF.the UN'S SDG'S AGENDA 2030 are part of the great reset.the sdg's are on the WEF website and klaus schwab himself has spoken many times on the sdg's.i could write a book but I'm just leaving this as I said I'm exhausted from explaing.its worse than you can imagine.tc

[@sherrybonnett4827]

🎯🎯🎯

[@falconalley7228]

Wish we can have the election by November this year instead of waiting till 2025.

[@ZePizzaKnight]

That just means more time for Trudeau to f*ck up and lose votes, we all know he can't do a single thing right.

[@m.vonhollen6673]

Keep pointing out our leader’s true parentage. That is interesting beyond politics.

[@girlsloveganja3459]

Amen, I sure hope so.

[@jame452]

We had one recently but the parasites in most populated areas decided to vote for people who allow them to be parasites. I don't know if you will have enough people who are not brainwashed in the east to get Piere in

[@falconalley7228]

@@jame452 GTA is his stronghold.

[@CP-vm1sb]

Great interview. He gave direct and clear answers to every question. Unlike Trudeau and Freeland whom have never answered a single question clearly..

[@chrisgraham2904]

LOL Sooo True! I shake my head every time that someone (media or parliamentarians) asks a question of Trudeau or Freeland and they respond with a 5 minute dialogue that has nothing to do with the question that was just asked to them. Poiievre actually has the words "Yes" and "No" in his vocabulary.

[@caseyjackson853]

@@chrisgraham2904 Spot on

[@bobgillis1137]

Ask him why he said nothing to oppose T's illegal cv restrictions for two years.

[@caseyjackson853]

@@bobgillis1137 And an up-vote for you Bub 😉 Good von!

[@chrisgraham2904]

@@bobgillis1137 In this interview? Pierre wasn't asked. Pierre has certainly been vocal on many other occasions regarding COVID restrictions. BTW...the restrictions were not illegal.

[@Marvin-fn7ks]

Thank you Canadian Taxpayers Federations and Pierre for some common sense! I don’t mind paying taxes but only if the results from the tax revenues are efficient and produce results ,we have none of that currently . Trudeau admitted he doesn’t concern himself with financial issues! Go Pierre!

[@jordanearl5449]

i swear if we're smart and give Pierre a majority and 10 years we'll be in the best years Canada will ever have.

[@robertnorris9152]

Pierre will be such a welcome and refreshing change after all these years of arrogant, scandalous and showboating Justin Trudeau!

[@amirtak9886]

Pierre might go down as one of the best PM's in Canadian History.

[@peterrivney552]

fixing this country is not going to happen overnight it will take time and Pierre is our man to start fixing this country...

[@Herbwise]

You are wrong. His policies have been tried repeatedly and they have made things worse everywhere. They are called Neoliberal Economics and you should study the history of that failed idea. Pierre Trudeau brought that system into Canada and now people hate it and the Trudeaus. PP wants to put that neoliberal system on steroids. Things will get much worse especially since his climate policies are a disaster.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

They got 35% of the popular vote last election and Poilievre moving the Conservative party much further right will probably reduce that number significantly. Also the Conservatives' base is elderly people that are dying off with every passing day (accelerated by right-wing COVID disinformation). So hoping for >50% seems optimistic, but Conservatives aren't great at Math (or Science).

[@HillcrestGames]

I've waiting basically my whole life to hear a politician talk candidly and clearly about how policy can incentivize or disincentivize work. If you tax the hell out of labor and if you gradually pull away benefits when people begin to work, you basically on a societal level DEVESTATE the amount of work being done. The goods and services that are created by work ARE the wealth of a society, so you basically fuck everything up completely. I know it's not popular among conservatives, but a true implementation of UBI (NOT garbage GMI/GAI) could also alleviate the disincentivization of work among people requiring assistance. (As they would not have to work for pennies on the dollar as their benefits get stripped). The extra labor done by these people in conjunction with a low administrative overhead could actually possibly pay for the UBI itself. Meaning as a replacement for welfare and some other social benefit spending, not in addition to.

[@w.a.l5202]

You raise an interesting point about a UBI. I would absolutely be more trustworthy of a Conservative introduced UBI with checks and balances. It would also ease social assistance pressures on the provinces that they could use for things like health care funding or tax cuts, etc.

[@Chivalry64]

Easy considering he wasn't asked any hard questions,like with all the tax cuts what happens to health care. no carbon tax ok what are you going to do to curb global warming etc, easy to look good with easy questions

[@ericlavoie4697]

@@Chivalry64 people can do more on helping global warming than goverment can giving money to rich buy EV is stupid, Ev makers just raise price of them even more knowning people are getting money to buy them and amount trudeau has wasted could of fix our heathcare problems heathcare getting worst instead of better under his watch somthing has to give everything is crumbling

[@autonestegg4195]

I think rather than a Ubi we should consider a certain segment of society perhaps 10% to be at risk and in cooperation with provincial governments fill the Gap in terms of frequently needing services and medication without having to tax the other 90% excessively to do so for example if someone is on disability and schizophrenic or perhaps suffers from depression it should be very easy for them to call someone and make sure that they're taken care of while at the same time being able to transition into work to the amount that they are able... this does not mean we need to have everybody covered for free medication as most people are covered by their employer but let's fill the Gap to make sure people have the medication and perhaps bus passes that they may need

[@halielouya453]

Given that Pierre marched with the Terrorists on the Canada Day Weekend does you he plan to go to the local police station on September 11 to protest and terrorize the police with his anarchist friends???

[@mashmash7877]

I mailed my vote and it was for Pierre Poilievre he's awesome

[@robertnorris9152]

Good comment, MASH! Spread the word to all of your friends and hopefully, we will see the end of arrogant, scandalous and self-serving Justin Trudeau on the night of the next federal election!!

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Awesome at endorsing Bitcoin right before it crashed.

[@mashmash7877]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 do you need a tissue for your Liberal tears ??

[@barbaraloboda2954]

May God protect you Mr Poilievre 🇨🇦❤️.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

So nothing actually useful then?

[@robertnorris9152]

..... At the same time, may God save us from the next three years of arrogant, scandalous and self-serving Justin Trudeau. God help us!

[@canadiangirl1204]

Pierre is the man for the job

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

wont change anything he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@canadiangirl1204]

@@johnsmith-yj2cn lol ur very uneducated. Hes not a globalist and there's no evidence he's part of the wef. I think ur mistaking him for our Prime Minister Dildeau

[@robertnorris9152]

A agree with you completely. Spread these words to all of your friends!

[@canadiangirl1204]

@@robertnorris9152 oh believe me. My friends are all on the Pierre train!

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

@@canadiangirl1204 So a super-spreader train?

[@tripleseven8361]

“…We live in a country, where ‘Work’ doesn’t pay!” Indeed…Why aren’t a huge majority of Canadians interested in fixing this?

[@susieschilling4009]

So many on welfare here in St Catherine’s and overall Canada. I don’t begrudge those that need help for a period of time to get on there feet especially those with kids, however it is no longer that what it was intended for. Rather has become in many instances generational way of life with mothers promoting there young daughters to start producing many babies in order to secure good tax paid check. Then others collecting, receiving housing, etc, etc and working independently (good portion under the table like the cab driver owner that rented from me after wife kicked him out) in order to make a lot of money in combination. I have seen it with my very own eyes with 3 groups of individuals, 2 from Sudan, one from Cuba. Owning much wealth (like hundreds of thousands in cash and revenue based incomes in Sudan etc etc etc reporting very little to continue the free life of benifit’s. One having 10 children (not sure if more then 1 wife), another with 4 children 1 wife and a woman out in Edmonton with 2 kids a cleaning corporation yet bank rolling in the benifits next to free housing with a BMW and Mercedes suv ownership in her subsidized housing. Seems certain groups long time Canadians but also many longer in Canada foreigners that are using and abusing and seem to have learned every way possible to exploit with little contributions. It’s enough already need to figure out how to expose all the fraud and incentivize work for a living not baby breed for a free living while the rest pay there free ride and from what I have seen very comfortable life’s.

[@ResoluteRonin]

A Live Stream With Pierre would be nice so "The People" could ask him questions directly.

[@tiggykatz8707]

What would you ask him? Get that out there🧐

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

The guy doesn't even show up for debates.

[@tanyaplamondon669]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 the debates are nothing but pretentious and backstabbing. Instead of it being about policy it’s bout smearing your political opponents. He was where he needed to be. Talking to Canadians in real time. Dont get me wrong. I’ll pull my support as soon as he doesn’t live up to his promises, just as I would any other candidate, but he has the best platform that is genuinely for the betterment of Canada at this time.

[@laurag7295]

I work in health care and our pay raise, which is always retropaid, is 1%, it has not changed in over 20 years.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

As a health care worker, how much abuse did you you have to deal with from people disinformed on COVID by right-wing media?

[@malihehbrasseur778]

This great man is a truthful,honest ,smart with knowledges and care for us ,he should be prime minister of Canada,Canada need him so much ! Pierre for prime minister! 💜🙏

[@robertnorris9152]

I agree with you, completely! Spread these words to all of your friends!!

[@Herbwise]

If you understood economics you would not be fooled but these snake oil salesmen.

[@chance891]

i build all our infrastructure, im a foreman, i work overtime to save money and get murdered by taxes, i work OT to get a head, not to pay for politicians pensions

[@mcjesus5603]

Sorry to hear that. Hope he delivers because I’m 17 and would love to make this guy our pm in 1-3 years

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

@@mcjesus5603 If you really are 17 years old (and it is doubtful), what do you think about Conservatives consistently voting down bills to increase Minimum Wage, keeping it at a Starvation Wage? Although you would not be the first Conservative to vote against their own interests. It's a pretty regular event with their voters.

[@theflyer99]

go Pierre go!!!💯🙌✌

[@robertnorris9152]

Go Pierre go!!! Resign Justin resign!!! (The day that arrogant, scandalous and self-serving Justin Trudeau resigns should be declared as a national holiday!).

[@DRDRYWALL1969]

Please pass a law requiring politicians to actually answer questions instead of talking points

[@maria4karma]

Thanks CTF for this interview. 🇨🇦PP4PM🇨🇦

[@richierich440007]

Excellent interview with the awesome Pierre Poilievre, our NEXT Canadian PM 🇨🇦

[@robertnorris9152]

Let's hope that Pierre is our next PM! I am sure that the vast majority of Canadians will be quick to agree with you!!

[@bevfast865]

Finally,...some hope for integrity!

[@StonedViper]

I'd personally rather pay a few extra days or even a few extra weeks of carbon tax if he defunds the CBC on the first day. Let the people who enjoy that propaganda pay a subscription for it i'm sure they'd do as well as CNN+ did.

[@0x007A]

Carbon tax must be rescinded permanently.

[@billmorison6073]

@@0x007A there's no reason they can't both be done at the same time..

[@0x007A]

@@billmorison6073 true enough. The CBC was created to unite the country but nowadays it is used to divide us.

[@helenajennings4912]

If these people want to pay carbon tax. Than let them pay. But leave the rest of us alone🤣

[@catinthehat5080]

Chop the Carbon taxes and totally defund fake new CBC that's a great start on day one !

[@kerenicahn3820]

Will Pierre repeal the Federal Digital ID once brought into law.

[@HillcrestGames]

When I saw him speak in Winnipeg I vaguely remember him bringing it up and denouncing it.

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@amirtak9886]

100% he will.

[@sherrybonnett4827]

What about preventing overreach in healthcare/ big pharma? Patient Care over Profits!!!!

[@kerenicahn3820]

@@sherrybonnett4827 Quite right 👍 . Once the WEF penetrated agents/politicians and bureaucrats are purged, A normal standard of health care modeling can begin.

[@padimills1494]

I think you should also cut the salary and all the pensions and perks of the Governor General. We don't even need a Governor General anymore.

[@billfarley9167]

The Governor General and all the Lieut. Governor's General of each province. The savings would be enormous.

[@zman-ru3yf]

Another awesome interview with our future PM

[@robertnorris9152]

good comment, z man! Let's hope and pray that Pierre is our future PM - no more King Trudeau!!

[@winskypinsky]

Yeah! Pierre! Get ‘em tiger! First on the chopping block--The CBC. 🗑

[@yegtech]

*PP for PM!*

[@vigsbond]

I am glad to hear that Pierre has a well rounded as a person from being good at economics, reading Stoic philosophy and following Jordan Peterson's books. Also, I like Pierre's suggestion about basing the pay for politicians based on net improvement in Canadians incomes. That would really incentivize the political system to deliver what's necessary for the welfare of their constituents.

[@Herbwise]

Not good at economics. Only good at Neoliberal Economics which has exacerbated today’s inequality and made the rich richer while keeping the rest of us treading water.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Jordan Peterson has to lie about his qualifications. He has claimed to be a neuroscientist and an evolutionary biologist. Peterson has degrees in Psychology, the softest Social Science. He is also massively transphobic and a right-wing grifter.

[@turtlehatching9716]

Great stuff!

[@garyangelstad5212]

Let's talk about the elephant in the room. What is Pierre going to do about all the lies canadians have been told by ALL politicians, for as long as i can remember, like the ones the Trudeau's and signh's party's have repeatedly done and the ones Mulroney told? We have been lied to by the people who we pay to run this country. We need tougher penalties for politicians and civil servants who cross the line.

[@smashy_smasherton]

He he penalties for the ruling class! Surely you jest!

[@chrisgraham2904]

Pierre really doesn't have a responsibility for those that have lied and deceived you in the past. Pierre does have a responsibility to be honest and transparent in everything he says in the future to lead by example. If elected, Pierre also has the responsibility to insure that every member of his party and his government follow his example. There must be consequences for anyone who fails in this effort.

[@garyangelstad5212]

@@chrisgraham2904 that what I'm saying. What laws will be brought forward to guarantee that if the crap like trudeau has done don't get reprimanded, there will be major unrest in this country. They make he laws a lie on a regular basis, but take pay raises and have benefits and retirement packages that would make the average person think they won the lottery. When there's money being handed out they're first in line, when there's bill to pay, they're no where to be found. Suddenly we're the govt. Only when the bill comes. This is the norm for decades. Trudeau and freeland have made that process seem minor when compared to what they are doing with our funds. It will only get worse the longer they have the keys to the bank. The only tool we have is our vote. It's time to get these lieing sacks of shit out of office

[@catinthehat5080]

@@chrisgraham2904 Very well said ! cheers to that

[@jackyback3975]

laid off 60% federal employees who sabotaging and abusing the position. This will save a lot of money

[@carlmartel8510]

Pass a law that PUNISHES POLITICIANS FOR LYING!,....

[@christianmarcoux3325]

I wish there was some law that would make sure that Canada never winds up being a Dictatorship Country.

[@rickneumann2126]

There is it's called the constitution,we do have one !

[@bobgillis1137]

Magna Carta.

[@sapporoichiban3612]

@Christian Marcoux. We do, we just need to make sure that manipulators can’t convince us to allow them to change in negative ways or bypass them. When the trucker protest happened, I was somewhat interested. When the government decided to use a war measures act to move legal goal posts, they had my undivided attention. Just because the laws exist does not mean that criminals will not attempt to get rid of them, change them or ignore them. It falls to us to preserve them at any cost.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

@@sapporoichiban3612 90% of Canadian Truckers were vaccinated at the time. The Ottawa Occupation had clear ties to white supremacy. Two of its main organizers are white supremacists (Chris Barber and Pat King). The Charter of Rights and Freedoms' Notwithstanding Clause clearly states your rights and freedoms have REASONABLE limits. You are allowed to protest. You are not allowed to blockade a city. And these are the domestic terrorists that Poilievre was cheer-leading for.

[@sapporoichiban3612]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 Interesting take, too bad it was not original or accurate. Not concerned about who is or is not vaccinated. Can you say without question that all vaccinated people support mandates or forcing others to submit to unwanted medical procedures? I can tell you that I personally know quite a few vaccinated people who understand that the vaccine is for enhanced personal protection and serve no other real purpose, myself included. I certainly don't see the need to impose my will on others if they choose to make different decisions than me. That is ridiculous. There were two other protests happening during the Ottawa protest. In both cases, they did break the law and the protests were concluded through regular legal means. Trudeau invoked a war measures act to move legal goal posts in order to deal with protesters in Ottawa, that says a lot about the situation. A judge ruled the protest was excessively using air horns and found nothing more to be an issue. There was hours of video footage that clearly showed lanes open for use in key areas and the blockades were set up by police using barricades and equipment. All of these things are true and can't be changed. The fact that you use words like occupation and white supremacy, etc, tells me that you are not interested in a logical conversation. I am mostly interested in what I see and I interpret what I believe it means. I don't subscribe to the divisive brand of politics of today, unfortunately, there is no escaping it. That said, I have not looked to find out personal information on individuals to use as a character reference for a very large group of people because I agree or disagree with their stance on an unrelated issue. That is just nonsense and childish. A person who likes doing that would suggest that the NDP leader propping up your golden boy has ties to a terrorist organization and it is actually documented and the reason he is banned from entering India. Lets get back to my point. I suggest that we be diligent in preserving the integrity of our protective documents. The reason I believe this is paramount for all citizens, regardless if you agree with a specific issue or not, is that is a guarantee that we have a chance to resist tyranny. Remember, the next person in power may seriously disagree with you, would you like them to be able to bend rules?

[@sargonlevi1183]

A great and honest politician. Don't forget the retirees and the property taxes. Get rid rewarding CBC

[@billmorison6073]

When you say retirees I assume you mean seniors, so I agree. Property taxes are the Perdue of your municipal government however, so the PMO has no control over them.

[@the_indelible_onion]

Canada’s only hope.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

There is that typical right-wing fear-mongering and sycophancy.

[@shanep.9442]

This guy reads Marcus Aurelius' meditations...awesome

[@gerry5029]

There isn't a Marcus Aurelius in all of Canada much less Ottawa Carleton.

[@sapporoichiban3612]

@Gerry. Do you like Trudeau’s leadership?

[@gerry5029]

@@sapporoichiban3612 I am an old man who realizes that it's time to move over and let the young run the show.Mr Trudeau has a young team and they have first hand knowledge of the times.The other guy is talking about going backwards and we have been there;done it.

[@sapporoichiban3612]

@@gerry5029 So which part do you like the best about his character? The 4 ethics violations? The racist blackface incidents that have occurred so many times, he can't count them while calling others racists and shaming people? The time when he stood up and said," these people hold unacceptable views, they are often misogynistic and just taking up space, as the leader of a country you have to ask if you should tolerate these people"? The fact that nearly every word out of his mouth is a lie? What do you like about his policies? You like his bill on censoring media and the internet so he can be the authority of what we are exposed to? How about when he bypassed trade rules to allow China to dump cheap steel into our market and cut out domestic producers? You like the way he ignored intel from our military about an emerging viral threat from China, told us that travel does not impact the spread of a virus and refused to stop travel from hot spots saying it was xenophobic? All this before we understood anything about the threat which undoubtedly resulted in deaths? How about after he did all of that, he then declares an emergency and attempts to amend rules to provide more power, when he is resisted by all other parties, he shuts down parliament and makes orders in counsel on issues completely unrelated? You like his admiration for China's basic dictatorship? You know, China, the nation which has committed horrible offences against it's own citizens? How about him spending our money? 600 million for an unnecessary election in the middle of a pandemic while our economy is in serious peril? 1 billion to the CBC and an extra 600 million to other news outlets which are very agreeable? He even made a joke about that. 160 million to Chinese infrastructure bank? The UN, etc, etc. Increasing our deficit to proportions larger than every other leader in our history combined with allowances for inflation to reflect the different economies at the given times. All this while our housing market belongs to China and a couple generations from now will never own a home. Our medical system is on the verge of collapse. Our education system is faltering. Our infrastructure is outdated. Our homeless numbers are at record highs. Death from drug overdose has never been even remotely close to as high as it is now. Our citizens on reserves cannot even drink their water. As an older person, you of all people should recognize the red flags of a leader who takes steps to control the media, divides and isolates citizens into groups and attempts to use fear and legislation to seize control over essential commodities while economically burdening the population. If you are talking about his policies on the environment, I can easily and quickly explain why he does not actually care about climate change and how it is quite an easy and painless solution to actually address the issue if you like?

[@gerry5029]

@@sapporoichiban3612 I'm stepping aside after working two jobs and paying plenty of taxes for over 45 years.After reading your comments it's obvious you think that my contributions and those of my generation have all been in vain considering how terrible you think this country is.All I can say is go for it,I only hope that I live long enough to see you succeed.As for Mr Trudeau,I don't believe that he has a racist bone in his body;many things that unfortunately were acceptable years ago are not now. He did his best during the pandemic, and I do not recall him being convicted of any crimes.Have a good look around you and watch what is going on in other countries.Best of luck!

[@robertredel3258]

Pierre is on the mark for the direction to take Canada.

[@kerenicahn3820]

Will Pierre purge the entire government and bureaucracy of WEF members.

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

then he would have to purge his self because he his part of WEF also he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@maria4karma]

Ya he has denounced them and stated his cabinet will not be affiliated with wef.

[@northvanwan7428]

If he gets elected as PM, then there wont be WEF members because they lost their riding. Bureaucrats will take longer, but as 'gatekeepers' they would be in danger of extinction.

[@rmc2340]

Voted for you to win the Conservative leadership. But you have cinos (conservative in name only) in the party. Hope you can deal with them and get the job done for Canadian's.

[@arleneirvine1526]

do you mean charest?

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@rmc2340]

@@johnsmith-yj2cn sorry he his but that's fake news.

[@rmc2340]

@@arleneirvine1526 charest and his supporters

[@catinthehat5080]

Excellent video that most Canadians should take a few minutes out of their busy schedules to listen too because all these excessive taxes we are over paying right now is making our lives more and more difficult to make ends meet everyday, great video Pierre !!

[@flyifri]

I'd like to vote for Pierre Poilievre today if I could. Wait a minute, I can vote for Pierre today by joining Conservative Party Of Canada..! I'm going to help make Canada great again as far this one man can do, by saying to China from buying up our land.!

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

the guy just speaks sense , and is smart as hell, canada could finally get a good one in the top job

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@traviscutler9912]

He doesn't control world commodity prices, he doesn't control supply chain bottle necks and he voted for "money printing" in the Harper government. Just a bunch of vague cliches without any verifiable plans that could be measured and therefore never be held accountable. Nope, just empty rhetoric held together by a dislike of Trudeau and the "elites" who Pierre Polllievere has worked in government for his entire life. The system works.

[@jamesmecher6993]

Music to my ears!!!!

[@echobear5228]

Go Pierre Go!!!!!! I attended your talk in Barrie. You have my vote….I already voted.

[@grahamditchfield4318]

This interview was long awaited and I am certainly impressed Pierre. Thank you, you have my ear. I truly hope tax cut initiatives are not exacerbated by the unholy debt the country has been burdened with especially since the growing consensus among leading financial analysts points to a very dark scene for North America in the coming months. You have your work cut out for you. Can the implementation of CBDC's be thwarted so we put to bed the grooming of our society for more government control? That seems to be the last nail in the coffin of population control.

[@Herbwise]

The debt is NOT unholy and is a huge private sector asset. You are confusing it with your household budget and personal debts. The federal debt is simply the money created by and spent by the govt into the economy and not taxed back from businesses and citizens since Confederation. Ask any competent accountant about the bookkeeping.

[@grahamditchfield4318]

@@Herbwise The debt is terribly UNHOLY particularly around the printing of money to cover government expenses and programs required to appease population needs as a result of the inflationary mess that money printing has caused. I understand the debt being an asset to banks and cash being their liability but when things in the economy go south in an unholy way debt means everything to everyone and every business/government entity. The fittest shall survive. Have you watched what happens to heavily indebted countries particularly now. Argentina, Sri Lanka, Greece, Italy. When the US is at a debt to GDP ration of 185% something needs to give at some point.

[@Herbwise]

@@grahamditchfield4318 You need to study the matter to get some accurate information. Here is a start. Intro to MMT kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX6xmXeGfZmZgck

[@zombieprinting2670]

Full opportunity to ask Pierre about his stance on wef and the who and nothing? What about the garbage social credit system trying to be implemented on Canadians? Absolutely important questions that should have been addressed.

[@erikaclose5998]

He's said it in a interview before,that he will not have anything to do with the WEF

[@rioscueva1899]

Still hope!! You are our Hope!!

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

What about Obi-Wan Kenobi?

[@dea2009iren]

Would you consider to reduce the size of the Government and introduce term limits for the PM, Senators and MP?

[@laceygreenwood]

Let's hope this comes to pass! Can't be soon enough! It was great to see Mr. Poilievre in Halifax, NS, this week!

[@jasonkelsey3441]

We should have a charter right not to be over taxed by our governments

[@molliem8192]

Great show!!!!!

[@dutchiedonuts]

Definitely a good interview. 👍👍 My only disagreement, is government officials getting bonuses. This is not a corporation, this is government, and as such get paid well for the job they do. Most working Canadians don't get rewarded with bonuses for good work. I do hope he makes as leader and I do hope he becomes our prime minister. 👍

[@1979Spica]

Whoever puts forward this policy will have my vote, no questions asked: No income taxes after 40 hours for full- time No income taxes after 30 hours for part-time. It will put a lot into the pockets of the hardest working people. The ones who are trying to help themselves out, but are pulled down by taxes and contributions to government programs. It will boost Canadian business, by giving every employee an incentive to give a little more hours per week.

[@mark-ut8ft]

I would like to know where he stands on digital identity system.

[@northvanwan7428]

maybe it falls under the "make Canada the freest country of earth" mandate. ya ?

[@mark-ut8ft]

@@northvanwan7428 Yeah I can go along with that.

[@TheJusnic82]

Get rid of carbon tax....got my vote

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

There is that typical right-wing anti-science stance.

[@TheJusnic82]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 what does a carbon tax have to do with science?

[@TheJusnic82]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 Emissions in Canada have been steadily declining before the Turd was even PM. If you didnt have a typical lunatic lefty sheep attitude and actually researched some "science"....you would know this

[@evakozikowska5470]

Great interview, thank you!

[@tripleseven8361]

I can’t wait to vote for Pierre…So far, everything that he has said, is, in my opinion, exactly what we need!

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Including cheer-leading for domestic terrrorists with ties to white supremacy?

[@tripleseven8361]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 I’ll consider your argument, if you have facts to back up your claim…If you’re referring to swastikas that we’re on display, during the protests in Ottawa…My understanding of the display of these symbols, was not to promote white supremacy, but rather to demonstrate, that Trudeau’s methods, were akin to those used by totalitarian states…

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

@@tripleseven8361 That is a ridiculuous statement. Everyone knows Pat King, one of the key organizers is an overt white supremacist. He has made videos about the Great Replacement Theory, a white supremacist conspiracy theory. Another key organizer, Chris Barber, has done videos in his garage that has two Confederate flags hanging. What did the Confederacy stand for? Also look at videos of the occupation. Is that in-line with Canada's Cosmopolitan composition? Or even Canada's trucking industry composition (25% of which is South Asian origin)? No! It is over 99% caucasian. Too far gone. Jesus Christ, right-wingers are mentally challenged.

[@tripleseven8361]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 Accepting your statement as true…Why “throw the baby out with the bath water”? Poilievre’s endorsement of the truckers and what many of them stood for, doesn’t equate to his endorsing ‘White Supremacists, or ‘White Supremacy’…Why would any intelligent politician endorse such such a concept…

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

@@tripleseven8361 Because as a Conservative he knows he needs the "Deplorable" vote. He is pandering. Here you are making excuses for domestic terrorists.

[@peoplekind8201]

He answered the last two questions with one statement. It's easy to answer questions when you're telling the truth, that's why Pierre is popular and why he will unseat Castro's bastard.

[@thegan9143]

Great interview PP. On point, none of the attempts at clever wit and character assassination, which comes off too Trudeau like. We can assess the character of the likes of Trudeau so don't emulate or lower yourself to that level.

[@smashy_smasherton]

They don’t concern themselves with drug free. It’s all ‘harm reduction’ now, and for many, it’s a joke. It makes it harder to quit even if you want to.

[@UNCHART3DGAMING]

Like that Mr.P is actually articulating what he will do if he becomes PM vs bashing the current incompetent and ideological lot in Ottawa - I would like to see Mr.P and all other elected MP’s show up in person this fall at the doors of parliament ready to work - no zoom - show up like everyone else - you are ESSENTIAL!

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Pandemic isn't over. Did you honestly not know this? Granted it is almost exclusively unvaccinated that are dying now.

[@paulnufrio8343]

This guy is amazing I hope he’s in the next Prime Minister of Canada

[@robertnorris9152]

I agree with your comment, Paul. Just don't hope that Pierre is the next Prime Minister - pray! (God help us if we are stuck with ANOTHER term with arrogant, scandalous and self-serving Justin Trudeau as our PM!!).

[@BJZILovU]

Go Pierre Go you rock and you have my vote!

[@m.vonhollen6673]

He has not yet been chosen leader of the PC’s. Got your ballot for that?

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@ronshaw9795]

I’m so happy that the vinyl stickers I put on the rear window of my vehicle won’t go to waste. First sticker..Defund the CBC, second sticker says, F/U JustInflation. I can now justify my purchases, thanks Pierre !

[@JeanSweeny]

How can u not love this guy. Finally, u Canadian's have a person willing to stand up to reality and do it with ideas known to demand discipline dealing with reality.

[@apriledwards7250]

Please Mr.Poilievre save us from Fidel,s boy

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he wont save us because he his a globalist like the rest and he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@gerry5029]

Even if it was true there are many worse things than being related to F.C.I can't believe how mean and petty Canadians are becoming.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

There is that typical right-wing fear-mongering and sycophancy.

[@m.d.5788]

We already voted for you Pierre! Can’t wait to see you our PM!

[@robertnorris9152]

Good comment! Spread the word to all of your friends and hopefully, Pierre and his Conservative party will absolutely trash arrogant Justin Trudeau in the next election!!

[@rogerb5771]

Thank you for giving us some hope.

[@farinshore8900]

Thank you Pierre. I figured out in the 90s that it doesn't pay to work. Gave up on the idea of wealth or security

[@glennt939]

God bless Pierre, and Canada.

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

So nothing useful then? A whole bunch of religious leaders died from COVID in recent years, didn't they?

[@Facultyofcommonsense]

love this guy

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard

[@danajohnson1853]

Great podcast! Was disappointed not to be able to compare this to the Charest 1 on 1. Why was the Charest pod cast taken down?

[@lindacaton9350]

" The Art of War " is somewhat of a blue-print of what Trudeau is doing to Canadians. I see surprising similarities, very disturbing.

[@thegeneralist7527]

Canada's last balanced budget was the Paul Martin's budget of 1997-98. I was a new Federal government employee and it was so easy and fun to do. Every day I felt like I was doing something important that would benefit everyone including myself. All I can say is its been downhill ever since. Way too many parasites in the government now.

[@smashy_smasherton]

This was also a result of the GST. It was supposed to go away once we were clear.

[@gustavohermandio1440]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA LIKE PAUL MARTIN WAS UPHIL LOLOLLLOLOLOL

[@thegeneralist7527]

@@smashy_smasherton It was achieved by reducing the size of the public service by eliminating useless bureaucracy.

[@thegeneralist7527]

@@gustavohermandio1440 I sincerely hope you never understand.

[@smashy_smasherton]

@@thegeneralist7527 and a tax that was supposed to be gone once the books were good.

[@blackkened1]

Im behind Pierre 100% 👍💯💪🇨🇦

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Poilievre would not like that with his homophobic voting record.

[@CryingLiberal]

amazing interview

[@lindacaton9350]

It's so refreshing to get real answers with definate direction to questions. Not something we ever see with the Trudeau gang.

[@autonestegg4195]

Please ask Pierre about what he's going to do to improve productivity our competitive level absolutely sucks the average Canadian generates $50 US GDP per hour versus Americans generating 66 we are less than 70% as productive As Americans are please also ask what he will do to raise the income level per capita which is of course related to productivity

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

he his a globalist like the rest he support gun control , mass immigration , did not oppose covid measure wen they where in place , he his part of WEF and support Ukraine that list is enough to classify anyone as a globalist or leftard.

[@autonestegg4195]

@@johnsmith-yj2cn he's by far the best in the race go find your own hero vote for max if you like but I don't think you'll Inspire anyone with the Southern Cross

[@jordanbetteridge1598]

Americans work themselves to death. Why would you want to emulate them with regards to literally anything?

[@autonestegg4195]

@@jordanbetteridge1598 so you think we should not focus on getting investment in Canada? America bad?

[@kerenicahn3820]

Will Pierre repeal Bill C-11

[@klehman4832]

Great interview! A lot of the questions I wanted to ask. Thank you

[@chinchc.5688]

staged

[@billfarley9167]

Great interview. I've been a Liberal/NDP switcheroo for a number of years and have finally come to my senses. Pierre seems to have a grasp of our current situation and I support his description of the various subjects. However, one topic not discussed is subsidies for the oil and gas sector. It makes sense to me that the huge profits currently being made should automatically include the reduction or elimination of any subsidies. In addition, abandoned dry wells need to be cleaned up and legislation must be enacted to force the O&G sector to undertake the cleaning during a period of high profit. Pierre talks about rewarding failure, so why would he reward this sector with subsidies if they fail to clean up dry wells?