Interview with S. Gurumurthy Part 1: The Rise and Fall of Western Development Models

[@swapice]

May God bless patriots like Sri.Gurumurthy-ji with a VERY long and healthy life. Jai Hind. Thanks to Rajiv-ji for bringing Gurumuthy-ji to the forum. Friends, please consider donating to Infinity Foundation. (I sent them a cheque for $100 last week).

[@aravindsr]

Gurumurthy is a national treasure

[@yashukumar4309]

I have been waiting for this deadly combination of two intellectual gaints of Sanathana Dharma.A true treasure for people who want to understand Indian Civilization in its original form.Pranaams to the feet of both🙏🙏🙏🙏.

[@mahabharat4985]

Deadly combination. ? lol.

[@rajendrasinghbutola9217]

Rajivji i can't express my feelings for you in words, you are silently doing great service to the cause of Bharat. Your sacrifices will definitely turn in sweet fruits in coming years. Jai Santana Dharma

[@mahabharat4985]

Thanks Rajivji for this conversation with great guru. Two great souls together will make best video of 2018.

[@jaiprem7413]

I am estactic to see our two Great Hindu Thinkers together, defenders of our Hindu Dharma !!!

[@unmaivirumbhi57]

Great man! Proud to be from a country where such intellectuals are born and guiding us. Thanks Mr. Gurumurthy, I am proud to be an Tamilian Indian American!

[@mariamalhotra8228]

Why did you run to America?

[@UMS9695]

Gurumurthy's brilliance is superb!! His RCA (Root Cause Analysis) is unmatched!!

[@pradeepsrinivas1480]

What an INCREDIBLE MIND! hats off Gurumurthy Sir! Thanks for bringing such great knowledge to us Rajiv sir with everything you are doing. Any amount of praise would seem insufficient.

[@DeeRaman-83]

Total video answers only one question about culture and economics......Such a detailed answer and look at the keen ness of Rajiv while he is taking in the points...my best 26 minutes of life

[@grsint]

the beauty of creation is diversity...

[@praveenrai6965]

I have followed SG & RM for more than 12 years now and it is a huge blessing that we dharmiks have such intellectual giants guiding us in our effort to rediscover our dharmik identity. Our colonial past, Nehruvian socialism, Indic narratives through the lens of Marxist historians/intellectuals, Western universalist paradigm of society, culture & economy etc. had thoroughly muddled our thinking and the way we understood the world. These gentlemen, along with host of other great Hindu thinkers, have helped immensely in redefining an identity based on dharma traditions. My gratitude knows no bounds. Thank you Rajiv ji & Gurumurthy ji.

[@sibenshome]

Outstanding.. Thank You Rajivji.. Eyeopening Discussion With Gurumurthy ji.. Communism n Capitalism is The Head n Tail of the Same Coin..that's Church.. Murvellous.. Thank You Once again..

[@mrudulalele]

Shiben Shome Exactly that was such an eye opener.. I mean you know none of them is great just which one is the lesser evil but this hits you like realizing something!

[@muralidharv6213]

This is brilliant. This series of the 3 parts should become part of every school curriculum and also college education.

[@prrao3234]

We are Very Proud Of You Both

[@mrudulalele]

Thank you Rajiv ji for this excellent excellent interview! 🙏🏼 Waiting for the remaining parts..

[@mahabharat4985]

mrudula lele he is best economist of India.

[@mahabharat4985]

mrudula lele he is best economist of India.

[@prankstereddy]

Very insightful thank you so much.

[@srevatsan4954]

Gurumurthy Ji you are simply amazing. Your grasp on the subject matter is mind-blowing.

[@ritswik]

Mind Blown ! Thank you for presenting this

[@ramkrishnadas4230]

All your interviews are par excellence; but this is utter brilliance. Gurumurthy Ji should write a book about Indian vs Western Government/socio-political models.

[@bjornkristjansson7191]

There seems to be no end to the interesting topics Rajiv finds out, interviewing one brilliant person after another.

[@VidharshanKannanBCOM]

Ground breaking! Way forward for Dharmic principles to come to the fore.

[@ArvindYadav-ng2mw]

धन्यवाद।

[@reghumohan]

It is an eye opening conversation....

[@PradeepKumar-xq6jx]

Delight to watch two wise people talking a lot of sense and History!!

[@ipsitabhattacharya2938]

Amazing analysis by Shri Gurumurthy, Malhotra sir some more of this kind of interviews are most welcome.

[@sanjibkumarthakur1029]

Excellent analysis Gurumurthy sir

[@dev4rajan]

Simply Amazing .. Kudos to Gurumutprthy Sir and Rajiv Ji, like to listen more from lively discussions, mine of information well articulated.

[@k.r.ragavan7052]

Kandashtikavacam kan

[@Anonymous42282]

Development with Culture! Thanks you Gurumurthy for an eye opening remark.

[@wordtech07]

I am really waiting for SI 3. This is painful wait!

[@subodhkumarsharma7]

Sir I had to take notes !! Mr gurumurthy you are a living encyclopedia... loaded with the information.

[@pawmin88]

Great people, doing what matters. Thank you so much for this.

[@panchapakesanv]

Once again GURUji gives amazing insight. Can't wait for remaining 2 parts....curiosity is taking better of me to keep checking for the video every 10min... :D

[@vigneshlakshminarayanan8966]

Profound depth of subject and erudite articulation ;Delightful Gurumurthy

[@SB-dy1ml]

Great Knowledge

[@laxminarayanraotammara2168]

It is a wonderful insight into how the economic models of the world have evolved and how the social and economic activities detached from the indigenous cultures failed in today's world.

[@dakshrastogi7666]

Exactly On target My suspicion hence becomes reality!

[@aghamarshanhvp1803]

Sir I waiting for si3 videos

[@vinayaktraders72]

excellent conversation. so much of insight . waiting for the continuation...

[@niteenkumar9251]

i am just in awe with this guys. Every video of his is an eye opener for me and i believe for every Indian who wants to know their roots. He is empowering average Indian with the Grand India Narrative which was distorted deliberately by colonial rulers Nehru, leftist authors like Romila Thappr , westerners and more importantly their implanted sepoys for years. The govt still has a herculean task to correct the history books which treats our freedom fighters like Veer Sawarkar, Bhagat Singh and many more as terrorist. Each Hindus should do more research on our ancient scriptures to be enlightened and be able to stand firm and not be apologetic to western world. #LearnSanskrit #BelieveInYourHeritage #ReintroduceHinduismToHindu

[@thespiritualbackpacker8589]

Sir you are an inspiration! 🙏

[@sharan50000]

Brilliant discussion and lecture. Thanks a ton to Gurumurthy ji

[@muskannm1342]

Amazing .... So enlightening and informative .

[@maheshmohan3642]

Dear sir, please post the remaining parts of this interesting conversation. We are eagerly waiting for it.

[@vijaymenon3011]

Show us the full video it’s amazing with factual data. Hats off to Swamiji and Rajiv ji. You are the modern patriots of the nation. 👍👍

[@MrDillbud]

Sri S GURUMURTHY is his name.

[@kushaq1173]

i was searching why the hell we follow western world. now I got it. what is economics and on what basis it is made.

[@Inner.divinity]

Hindus have to build a strong dharmik ecosystem in which they can survive and flourish as a civilization rooted in dharma , we need many selfless activists for this purpose..market- driven western capitalist societies have degenerated into cesspool of debauchery, individualism and materialism ...we must not aspire to be like them in terms of ideology , we need modern technology , but our thought process should be rooted in dharma

[@jppatriotic3889]

Fantastic Guruji & Rajivji.

[@rbk9915]

Gurumurthy aiyya explaining with such clarity!!

[@maryvong8974]

This video is must watch for all patriot burecrats politicians judicial businessmen so that blindly copying appointing MNC should stop let's go back to DHARMA

[@pankajbankey]

A classic interview with s.gurumurti ,every word guru ji spoke peels off layer by layer the economic onion that the west cultivated..Wanted to listen him endlessly.

[@cheramannan]

What an excellent explanation on the evolution of the Global economics.!!!

[@bharatideo80]

Eagerly looking forward for next part of this........

[@Aditya-tw4mz]

What a great discussion! Thanks for this.

[@gokusupersayiandbgt]

I wonder y Indians did not use their own experience and knowledge to write the constitution, based on Dharmic principles, it is so vast and comprehensive...

[@MrDillbud]

You wonder WHY ? India has been still ruled by Remote Control.1947 independence was a sham too! Continuum of conspiracies is still ONGOING !!!! Five East India Companies were replaced with many many others.That's WHY ! 2014 , Modi has started WAKING US out of our DEEP SLUMBER . Politically speaking . INTELLECTUAL KSHATRYATWAM IS BEING AWAKENED BY OUR WELL-WISHERS LIKE SRI GURUMURTHI JI , SRI RAJIVJI AND A FEW OTHERS LIKE THEM. We are Eternally Grateful to these True Rishis.

[@sankaruob]

Because all those who participated in the constituent assembly were all western educated

[@Inner.divinity]

Hindus have to build a strong dharmik ecosystem in which they can survive and flourish as a civilization rooted in dharma , we need many selfless activists for this purpose..market- driven western capitalist societies have degenerated into cesspool of debauchery, individualism and materialism ...we must not aspire to be like them in terms of ideology , we need modern technology , but our thought process should be rooted in dharma

[@rosevillarosevilla9963]

Thanks 🙏🙏

[@sureshpolali4616]

Brilliant discussion by S Gurumurthyji of high quality and he is educating the people who view this video. Rajeevji and Gurumurthyji are great combination of great intellectuals. This video is simply superb. Thanks a lot

[@soham4655]

Amazing .. Waiting on the remaining episodes of this discussion...

[@Arunpalapattu]

Fantastic sir

[@satpurush2592]

Two great Hindu seers and thinkers that I respect and adore !

[@sudhanshukashyap6017]

Salute both of u sir

[@vish2553]

Thank you Gurumurthy Ji and Rajiv. What a brilliant man. Why is he left out of ministerial cabinet of the bjp government? We need passionate, patriotic people like Gurumurthy Ji running the ministry of finance and culture. I have been a follower and a great admirer of this man and his absolute devotion to Kanchi Maha Periyaval. Pranams 🙏

[@sundaramramachandran9533]

Shri Gurumurthyji has said very clearly that according to the instruction of his guru, Sri Kanchi Maha Periyava, he has chosen not to occupy any position of power (meaning any government office including a membership in the Rajya Sabha, which was offered to him by the BJP Government). We need many more independent thinkers without the entanglement of government office.

[@GP-ct1wz]

Excellent. Thanks for this interview.

[@vpr12308]

Excellent message and visions only due to Gaumutra

[@PankajSharma-fm2vw]

Mind-blowing!!

[@SantoshKumar1990]

🙏 Great to have two intellectuals.

[@sahildabral9548]

Astonishing. Want more of these.

[@somanathjolad5163]

Terrific Clarity on Economic History

[@ashishduhan5870]

Sir sooo sooo greatfull to uu...this lecture has solved my all questions to life..u both are great souls

[@amrishmohan2303]

Where is the third part of this interview? Please upload it. Many thanks for great initiative.

[@SuperSreeroop]

Vow...collection of information..presented it in right way..

[@srinikandadai8269]

Wowowowowo waiting breathlessly for part 2 anduch more

[@pinakimazumder8488]

I listened to the illuminating and inspiring speech Rajiv Malhotra gave in the British Parliament. I suppose that he can do a great favor to India by creating a platform for debates and brainstorming about how to improve the governance of Indian democracy. The present framework of the Constitution of India was written around late 1940's following the British parliamentary system. In last 70 years, India has grown in population by 4 times, number of political parties has increased by almost two orders of magnitude, there is an erosion of intellectualism among politicians (in comparison to Nehru era), India is competing against China and other far-East Asian countries that are extremely well-managed, politicians generally lack education and training, and so on. The concept of western democracy was founded in smaller European countries having one-tenth of India's population. This model fails in larger countries with huge diversity, staggering poverty, limited literacy, and so on. An unrestrained democracy with multiple combating political parties lead to the formation of coalition governments that struggle to survive and cannot undertake long-term constructive projects to forge the country forward. Modernization of Indian democracy can be mooted through concerted discourses and deliberations by Indian intellectuals both in India and abroad providing the parliamentarians to upgrade the constitutional framework. Such open discussions will promote numerous questions that warrant reviewing. Should the central government be strengthened by holding the national election once in 10 years? Should the state elections remain once in 5 years to foster new political ideologies? Should politicians be required to attend special administration institutes to improve effectiveness in their executive role? Should there be a threshold requirement in terms of the number of parliament seats for a party to have the national status? Should there be multiple (4 or 5) autonomous zones in India being led by separate deputy prime ministers? Many such important issues need to be publicly debated to enable Indian democracy for the future viability in terms of political stability, sustained economic growth, effective governance, utilization of human capital, and so on. Pinaki Mazumder Ann Arbor, Michigan

[@binoydey1592]

These discussions have to come on mainstream media...we must de-colonize our social and economic theories..and create our own models of development...

[@HARATH1999]

one of the best videos i have seen in recent times. sir, where is remaining half video?

[@abhinandan071]

Excellent insights..looks like context for Mr.Swamy's Reset book

[@vipinb7055]

Eagerly waiting for the other two parts Sir...

[@preethams1643]

Superb discussion on Economics.

[@jitukhatrik]

Gurumurthyji is a genius. I have some differences with what he said but still this was brilliant...

[@manjulavk7634]

Amazing,very informative,thank you Malhotraji

[@madhavbharadwaj8697]

Really 👁 opening

[@madhavbharadwaj8697]

👍

[@झू.टूभ.येकाउंट]

Good one.. Love you Rajiv Ji for your efforts..

[@karantilak5766]

Much awaited video.

[@MrSampandey]

Can't wait for part 2

[@thakurdeepakaddy6318]

Very good session sir today I get very good information

[@prashantv2170]

Legends.

[@jppatriotic3889]

Thank You.

[@sahajization]

Great conversation!

[@dhurjati1387]

True.

[@TheAashiaana]

When knowledge rules...👏👏👏

[@PradeepmysurNagaraj]

Voice to text of Dr. S Gurumurthy - 2 These principles informed the constitutional law even today. Example: during Emergency 1975-1977, rests on these principles. The principle of eminent domain was not applicable prior to the British invasions. Because the King had no right to take over others property. It is in Magna Carta, this was modified into "Pay the compensation and take the property" But in India, even after paying compensation, The King had no rights to take the land, He had to purchase through the panchayat.The question of right to life was divine right, so there was no question of anybody taking away your right to life. So, this Constitutional paradigm and economic paradigm aligned and rested on individuals. So how the democratic movement changed the ‘Divine right theory’, into what is known as "Social Contract" theory, by Hobbes, who said, we (Indians) are basically an anarchic kind of people, we cannot live together, We only kill each other. So we need a Leviathan state to make us behave, and so the state has all the powers, all the Rights. So he secularized the divine right theory into the State. Only one modification was brought about by John Locke said that it has to be an elected State. Once we elect the State, the state has the same power. It can declare Emergency, it can acquire anyone's property, So the character of the State did not change. It is only that the people give consent every five years to the state to do the things which are divine right, King could do. So this is one paradigm. Indian Context : But in India we didn't had this before the advent of Eurpoeans ruling us, but after emergency 1975-77, the Government said that the State has no right to touch the life of an individual. This is our original vision. Why its mentioned, Max weber & the entire polity, Economics, relationship between the state and the individual were shaped basically by the Christian discipline. Conclusion : So God as authoritarian, absolute, to King becoming the absolute, to a State becoming the absolute especially democratically elected, this is the ruler-ruled relationship which has been consistent, quite different from ours. Christianity destroyed all of the relationship and substituted the Church in place of everything. So it has really prepared the ground for Max Weber's theorization. Bertrand Russell argues that, Karl Marx's Marxism is also Christianity substituting State for Church. The substitution of State for the Church was the function of the secular socialist movement.

[@WriterSoumyaMitra]

Such a wise man! Such a wise man! Wow!

[@shakti1168]

Very Insightful. This happens when 2 Rishis Meet. This Video Will fascinate you. I bet.

[@RajPaulSeattle]

Pujya Gurumurthyji +Rajivji = Vishva Gnyan Diwali Fireworks . घन्यवाद। This discussion can become even more understandable by linking changes in state-religeon-economy models with the corresponding turning points in world history.Adam Smith 'Wealth of Nations' Political Economy model is linked with shifting community-sized industries from Bharat-Chin to empire-sized industries in England. The individual-protestant-capitalacommunism model - is linked with 'cake walk' conquest of the New World.Models were crafted by scholars for internal discourse after the fact. Then externally imposed in 1st phase by GUN until molded into a governable state. 2nd phase was UN governance of that state. 1st phase had treaties-laws-constitution-state; 2nd intl agrmnts& human rights.

[@pappi3]

Thank you Rajiv ji for doing this lecture with Gurumurthy ji. Rajiv ji I would request you to have conversation with Advocate J Sai Deepak who is fighting the Hindu Temple cases in the court.

[@raghumujje2639]

Amazing insights pranayama two Masters

[@nandu9773]

2 best brains at work

[@achatterjee9159]

Gurumurthyji is a true Dharmic person with amazing insight. Unfortunately, such people are not in policy making.

[@kishore2486]

Anjana Chatterjee chattopadhyay yes

[@ravishankartalya8532]

Where do we get completed discussion, this ended abruptly, Is there part 2

[@srmohanty7460]

Out standing disscussion

[@mmmittal]

Profound wisdom. Waiting for the next 2 episodes of this discussion.

[@vinayak6309]

expected, imminent & inevitable discussion