Interview with Senior JS Developer 2024 [NEW]

[@kailentit]

just sign up for the patreon and all will be gucci.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

what about a version for rust ++ ? im ordering carb free, gluten free quinoa coin now. soon as i get my ZIG dex working.

[@miph_awesome]

kai, what is "it" that you lent?

[@keith3761]

I'm currently using koi coin, are they environmentally compatible?

[@danielling5803]

I would like to buy quinoa coin, where is the whitepaper?

[@Ryan-xq3kl]

cant afford it? it costs 0.00001$ per coin, im a billionaire in quinoa.

[@breezycodes]

"Don't write this down, next week all of this is gonna change" - The realest part of this entire video 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@monad_tcp]

I hate web development, why can't user interfaces be standardized and boring and square boxes like Windows 95 ?

[@NoX-512]

@@monad_tcpWindows 7 UI was nice. It has gone down hill since then. I use Notepad++, btw.

[@runtimejpp]

😂😂😂 when he looks down and starts erasing everything on the piece of paper

[@shadon_official2510]

FACTS

[@masterflitzer]

@@monad_tcp well there is a standard right? html5 with web components, but we don't talk about it cause it sucks xD

[@calhil]

2024 is the year of the serverlesslessness xD

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

Don't forget the Serverless servers for your serverlessserverless

[@lawrencemanning]

“They say that every year, but this year they’re out of VC funding”. This stuff … 😂😂😂

[@monad_tcp]

when its going to be the year of webdeveloperlessness ?

[@canmertinyo]

XDDD

[@KarlOlofsson]

serverless is such a stupid name anyway. You still have a server, you just don't interact with it as a normal server. But it's not like it's client-only apps 🙄

[@calvinmlynarczyk9674]

Good meeting everyone! Once the backend team gets their shit together, this architecture should be suitable for displaying the user's birthday on the settings page.

[@vpaul4374]

as a backend dev, I blame the execs for not putting their shit together

[@sebastiantomasalvarez]

But.. is Galactus microservice working?

[@synterlu]

KRAZZAM YES

[@jamesclark2663]

​@@sebastiantomasalvarezNope. This is our blocking issue. So let's try again in two years?

[@Unga_Bunga]

Let's take this offline. I need all these words you guys said explained so I don't look too stupid at the upcoming manager meeting.

[@frenchopotamus]

JavaScript 1995: Look, you can make the button change on mouseover! 2024: 😭

[@jhonshephard921]

full stack using only one language was the worst mistake. Now if they were using a simple Python, C# or Go backend, they just one framework. I prefer FastAPI, and then maybe one thing to make the UI look good, I prefer Bootstrap. No need for other bloat. Of course because I have to use Tensorflow my Python is the bloat.

[@moonasha]

@@jhonshephard921 doesn't the us government use c# for its backend?

[@trevortiernan8510]

@@moonashano. It uses Python because it’s a big snake and it gives them the slowness they need.

[@monad_tcp]

2030: immediate UI made in C running on webassembly and canvas. We added content-type: app/canvas/webasm, HTML5 is dead

[@monad_tcp]

@RealRhythmandPoetry everything is bloat when it comes to the web. how come we can run the entire Crisis in a browser in 2024 and its user interface inside the game runs at 60 fps, yet, HTML/JS keeps being slow ass maybe using the "DOM" was a mistake ...

[@Mxnnyking]

Supabase Aws Typescript Apollo Nextjs ah my favourite - the SATAN stack

[@brkr78]

This made me laugh out harder than it probably should have...

[@swanandkriyaban877]

The DEVIL is in the details

[@TheMillyBays]

Snagged the 666th upvote on this, there's my dopamine for the day.

[@vicca4671]

The finished pentagram just below it is priceless. Like deploying infinitely on Hono for 0 dollars!

[@rosyidharyadi7871]

lol, i just realized that

[@jamesclark2663]

The most accurate part of this is that there is no discussion about code or actual development. It's all just configuration and management.

[@MrShikaga]

Development is the art of figuring out the balance between writing your own in-house code to do something that has been done a thousand times before and trying to configure someone else’s framework that was never meant to be used for your use case

[@madson-web]

@@MrShikaga the main issue I see is that newer devs doesn't learn/know how to actually program. They straight learn how to use a framework. Also it seems every framework is targeted to solve google or meta sized issues. Well, both of them strongly contributed to this current schenario.

[@MrShikaga]

@@madson-web dunno. I am only in my mid 30s, but even when I started back in 2010, there were plenty of junior devs who would apply who only knew how to use jquery, so I am not sure if it is a “new dev” problem or a “junior dev” problem.

[@Sonnell]

@@MrShikaga Depends on how you define new. I wrote my first lines of code in the 80's. And I get a ministroke every time I see a framework. There are no words which could express my disdain for what is happening nowadays.

[@marcosalazar4682]

@@madson-web I mean, everyone uses a framework. The framework is just whatever abstraction layer you're working on. Your argument on its face sounds reasonable but I think it's like saying everyone is learning C++ instead of Assembly.

[@timetraveler0002]

at first i thought was this an actual interview but then i saw the channel name & realized it was an actual interview

[@ggnorton7]

I hate the fact that not only I've understood most of it, but that we've had good part of these conversations already. Oh well, GTG rewrite everything in Rust I guess.

[@monad_tcp]

Well, if you do rewrite it in Rust using webassembly and Canvas, and use immediate mode rendering, not only you get 60 fps, you also get away from the insanity of all that thing, also, no javascript, which is a win. And you also get 60 fps, there no reason modern user interfaces for a simple App that could be an Excel sheet can't run at 60 fps. The customer just wanted an Excel sheet, but as an app, all of that webdev crap is useless. Why programmers can't program anymore...

[@Henrik0x7F]

@@monad_tcp immediate mode? Rip battery life

[@anonymousalexander6005]

@@monad_tcpaccessibility 😂

[@rivershen8199]

I was literally sure that he was making shit up halfway through the video HOW IS ALL OF THIS REAL? I'd rather implement Undertale in Assembly than spend a single minute writing Javascript, I hate webdev so much

[@omkargarde5867]

@@monad_tcp but do you get free hosting on cloudflare?

[@smort123]

"We push on save." Ci as God intended.

[@eldonad]

I hope they have unlimited computing credits for their CI stack, because I have hard-wired my brain to use ctrl+S as a punctuation sign !

[@bnjkf9u3]

Cowboy coding still strong, just shoot into live (get asked questions later)

[@eldonad]

@@bnjkf9u3 The purest form of CI

The good old days when we connected to server on SFTP, edited on the fly and saved the file directly on the FTP server

[@csolisr]

Push on Save™: Because who needs Git when we have Syncthing versioning?

[@theroyalblackfridge]

"we push on save" --- dead!

[@ChiefBridgeFuser]

The younger generation's "clean compile, ship it" 😂

[@daddy7860]

OH I thought he said "unsafe", well... same thing really

[@ChiefBridgeFuser]

@@daddy7860 😂🤣😅😂😆 i heard unsafe the first time too.

[@Williamthebrand]

I completely lost it at that point.

[@MrBaranygabor]

What does that mean?

[@karimbenhassen2227]

as a backend developer , dealing with legacy java code every day , now i feel like my life is more easy

[@andersonentwistle]

Depends if it's legacy code or bad code :) but yeah... stable meant something else back then, now it feels as if a mob of hipsters has buried that idea alive and stable means '1 year of support'

[@za_wavbit]

IRL, working in JS isn't like this, you just learn to ignore all the hype cycles. It's really only juniors and Twitter tech influencers who actually care about frameworks that came out a month ago. For example, I just built out a new template for full-stack microservices, and everything in there has been around for at least 10 years (except the frontend compiler, which is about 4 years old).

[@OHTraveler]

@@za_wavbitgotta agree with ignoring the hype cycles, not just of JS, but pretty much everything.

[@lilcotorro]

As a recent grad that's been bait-and-switched into doing business intelligence/data stuff instead of front-end dev. I feel like I've somehow missed a bullet in that regard.

[@kalaiselvanra]

"still slower than the speed of light" 😂

[@mountain3301]

but they're working on it

[@notsojharedtroll23]

​@@mountain3301 true commitment to the craft IMO

[@john_paul_r]

"but this year, they're out of VC funding" -- my drink damn near met my monitor lmfao

[@magne6049]

timestamp?

[@john_paul_r]

@@magne6049 bit starts at 5:48

[@younesskafia4189]

What's the joke? I understand the words but not put in that order

[@john_paul_r]

@@younesskafia4189 There's a bit of history behind this one. (warning, bit of a text wall lol) Fundamentally, there are 2 primary ways you can run an app: - On-Premesis (you literally own computers that run your code) - Cloud/Serverless (someone else (AWS, GCP, etc) owns the computers, they run your code for you) Originally, everything was On-Prem (cloud providers didn't exist). In this joke: > 2024 is the year of the Server-less-lessness they're saying Server-less-lessness instead of On-Prem, probably because they need to sound NewAndFancy(tm). But really, it's just what we did in the Before Times :P > They say that 10 years ago. They say that every year, but this year, they're out of VC funding. There are lots of reasons to choose one over the other (Serverless or On-Prem), but for the purposes of this joke, the important one is: When you want to be able to start small and scale up fast (e.g. if you start your app from nothing and your app goes viral), you want Serverless, because you can rent new Cloud compute near-instantly, in response to traffic. With On-Prem, if you get a big spike in users, you need to physically acquire more machines (or need to own more than you'd normally need, Just-In-Case(tm)). This means your "viral moment" could turn from your breakout moment to a service outage if you're not careful. Venture Capital (VC) Startups very much want Serverless, because they're banking on building new things very quickly, and want to be able to respond to sharp increases in users. When VC money starts running dry, people start looking for cheaper ways to do things, to reduce costs, rather than relatively more "recklessly" chasing gigantic user growth. _In general_, for a stable product, you can get operational costs lower with on-prem (or so I've heard).

[@JakEneAS]

​@@younesskafia4189 serverless is very attractive and affordable for early stage products, but it scales up very expensively. I don't do web backend anymore though, so maybe it's not the same these days.

[@t3dotgg]

Thanks for letting me sponsor this video!

[@ahmadaccino]

#consipracy everything is a damn ad nowadays smh! I'm suing

[@EpicNicks]

t5 stack when

[@SandraWantsCoke]

@@EpicNicks Probably in a few hours, I recommend you wait for t6, it should come out before weekend. And if you're really really patient, then you can try out t7 beta on Sunday.

[@ascourter]

I knew it!

[@PhilipAlexanderHassialis]

either you really sponsored it which is a 5head move or you didn't sponsor it but came here to throw this mini hand grenade which is a 5head move. Well played mr. Brrowne, well played.

[@yxyk-fr]

The real joke is that it is not a joke.

[@ped7g]

this channel turned silently into documentary one... (I did notice first time when the web user experience was documented, but I have suspicion the process started way earlier)

[@yxyk-fr]

@@ped7g not even a mockumentary, yes... and yes the process was always unfolding under our mocking eyes.

[@segueoyuri]

the real joke is javascript

[@yxyk-fr]

@@segueoyuri yet javascript works... well, it works enough most of the time, when properly coerced 😛

[@segueoyuri]

@@yxyk-fr that's it lol it does work, but there's a lot of gotchas and gimmicks and libraries and...

[@Supabase]

proud member of the t4 stack

[@azsoftware]

lmao

[@megamind452]

Please can someone guide me how to setup t4 with app router

[@za_wavbit]

@@megamind452 Are you asking how to do that today, or how to do it by the end of the sprint? The libraries you'll want to use will be different by the end of the week, so choose wisely

[@jsonkody]

Don't know if you noticed but you are S in SATAN stack here :D

[@miroslavmilosavljevic377]

you use t4 instead of t4? whats wrong with you?

[@lewesc]

"you know, years ago, wee would just set up a PHP and SQL in a LAMP stack on a $5 server with jjquery and our 5 users would be happy" Those were the days 😢 I both understand but also don't understand how we've made this so much more complex.

[@q01q]

i have rather unsettling memories of having trouble even with the LAMP stack, and reverting to some Apache + XML to run everything i needed for my page

[@jorgamund07]

You can still do that as long as you don't tell the architects. All you have to do is add a load balancer if you get too many users.

[@Kalasklister1337]

Well, turns out you can do pretty much that on steroids and be pretty happy. Just use latest PHP (which is getting pretty close to something like Python) and couple it with HTMX and you can get really far with mostly just old-school back-end ;)

[@samueldw62]

@@Kalasklister1337I am actually doing this at my job, feels great and yet too suspiciously simple. Wouldn't choose anything else again!

[@maciejlegowicz5834]

@@Kalasklister1337 yep - my next contract will be building something from scratch and it looks like I'll just stay with PHP on the back end and HTMX ... number of fcks given from the investor / customers perspective will be around 0

[@TheTmLev]

Am I forever damned for understanding all he said and demonstrated... The chaos is real

[@Puschit1]

So, nothing of this was made up? I thought things like "quikiMarket" were just pop culture references

[@asimplenameichose151]

@@Puschit1 Yes, there are bits of nonsense they also insert, like jjquery

[@Puschit1]

@@asimplenameichose151 Clever :)

[@ar1i_k]

@@Puschit1to be fair, qwikimarket sounds more logical than actual name for qwik’s meta-framework “qwik city” And the point author is making (about oversaturated “popular framework” landscape) remains the same

[@zeustechdev]

@@Puschit1 like 99% of it, and it's crazy how much it changes. The names on the board for example 2 years before woudn't even make sense or woudn't exist

[@monad_tcp]

The customer just needed an Excel table...

[@hippocleides7105]

Google sheets as a database-God tier

[@82NeXus]

Libre Office!

[@balyboo5856]

The customer just wanted a swing for his grand daughter.

[@elcapitan6126]

"just"

[@LLEMM]

@@hippocleides7105 I use power point.

[@insu_na]

OK, but does Omegastar now finally support ISO timestamps?

[@JohnVance]

No but Bingo 5.2 was recently released and now supports ISO-8601 formatted name-o's.

[@wisesquirrel4986]

I love how I was thinking in the middle of the video "Wait, wasn't the KZbinr someone else last time?". I like this style of video.

[@serchtul]

Probably another team, Omegastar is written in Java

[@o1-preview]

i fucking coded iso timestamps till the end of time and lost my job, wtf!

[@hughmungusbungusfungus4618]

That is the superior crossover

[@remsee1608]

This is exactly like that Krazam video except everything is technically accurate

[@magne6049]

except qwikiMarket which should be QwikCity :-/

[@magne6049]

4:07

[@nbarbettini]

OmegaStar is beyond all technicalities

[@FathDaniel]

What do you mean Krazam isn't just accurate it's exactly how it went on one of my jobs.

[@magne6049]

@@FathDaniel he means that krazam made up words of services/tools, but these tools are real.

[@GordonKindlmann]

I would pay money for merchandise featuring an image of the whiteboard by the end of this. Wisdom encapsulated.

[@alphamikeomega5728]

...as long as it arrives before it becomes obsolete (next week)

[@MatthewSwabey]

@@alphamikeomega5728 How about a white t-shirt and washable marker pack instead? ... actually that is better documentation than some of those frameworks

[@kailentit]

just found some on redbubble idk

[@Fanaz10]

the star is the wrong side up

[@yxyk-fr]

@@Fanaz10 maybe, maybe not.

[@Sound_.-Safari]

Please do one of a SR js dev that. 1. writes almost everything from scratch. 2. Uses JS in every backend. 3. Has PTSD about major version changes for react/angular.

[@jerrygreenest]

Major? I have ptsd about minor changes of ANY package, so I lock my versions entirely, without «^»

[@andersonentwistle]

Bro I thought Vue was bad since every 3rd party package had to do a from-scratch rewrite after v3. It took years just for them to catch back up, years of wasted time that could have been spent on innovation. I am simultaneously relieved and horrified to hear it's not just Vue... And yes I have PTSD from that "upgrade year".

[@za_wavbit]

I have zero PTSD from major React upgrades because I can just read whatever's in react-codemod and adapt that. Angular though, it's easier just to rewrite every few years than try to upgrade

[@Kerngebruiker]

@@jerrygreenest nvm use && pnpm install -shamefully-hoist. 247 critical vulnerabilities found. “Seems reasonable. Surely someone will fix that once lifecycle management gets sorted” - posted by: Senior Frontend Dev, 4 years ago

[@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez]

@@za_wavbit Why not just use ClojureScript, s-expressions make it easier to make a custom compiler with quasi-quoting to convert code from one version to the next

[@w4439]

"I appreciate the input; anyone else?"- scrum master

[@DR_1_1]

I think Boeing may have been using scrum and agile too much...

[@freehatespeech6804]

Lmaooooooo

[@JohnVance]

"we have an entire abandoned office building" SOMEONE I WORK WITH actually included this argument for on-preming something recently and I got so angry I saw new colors

[@WistrelChianti]

I like how the JS devs are turning into unix sysops over beard time

[@monad_tcp]

well, they introduced so much crap into their browsers that they had second system syndrome and the Webbrowser just became a shitty operating system with a shit programming language used to create shitty software.

[@theodorealenas3171]

​@@monad_tcpHoly C looks better for interactive console commands than JS

[@thesqueedler]

this comment doesn't have nearly the upvotes it deserves

[@damicapra94]

@@monad_tcp this would be a banger tweet ngl

[@lashlarue7924]

😂😂

[@frank13621]

Sadly knew too much of this. I went to tamagui out of curiosity and their "how to build a button" page is a 15 minute read. Can we stop this already?

[@andersonentwistle]

At that point Im legit using full vanilla everything and producing a better one

[@schtormm]

ehh, just use and get on with it lel

[@Jadinandrews]

​@@andersonentwistle yeah I do the same. Vanilla is tiny too.

[@TravisHi_YT]

I gave up with TWCSS, it's beyond a joke.

[@ChillerDragon]

@@andersonentwistle when you are done with your vanilla rewrite make sure to release it as a competing library

[@ofirgeller22]

"It works with anything! (if you write an adapter)" lolz

[@nazaG_89]

as a non developer JS looks like a bunch of people coming up with planning solutions in various ways and then all ending up concluding that crossing the street on foot is easier than anything they could come up with 🤣🤣

[@vpaul4374]

IT universe summarized

[@masterkraft4746]

the Javascript world is just insanity

[@segueoyuri]

oh no. JS is just a bunch a people coming up with the idea that the best way to cross a street would be waving your arms as if they were wings. And then seeing that's not possible, but coming up with a gazillions ways to make it look like you are. If you'd suggest to cross the street on foot, the answer would be "silence!" just like in the video lol in the end they conclude to walk 15km around town and to get to the other side without ever needing to cross this street here (that would take just

[@vpaul4374]

@segueoyuri I mean, as long as the company is properly paying the devs, we will even make a whole new city in this side of the street so we don't have to cross it.

[@segueoyuri]

@@vpaul4374 I'm not talking about project tasks, I'm talking about the overcomplication of simple tasks or needs for the sake of overcomplication (in case reading is hard) Sometimes your client just need to cross the street, on foot. Don't bill him the construction of a whole freaking city :) usually if your code is not boring, it's wrong

[@superscatboy]

Every year is: - the year of serverless - the year C++ dies - the year VR will take over the gaming market - the year England will win the world cup - the year you'll finally give up that thing you're addicted to

[@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez]

The only three things you need for VR are 1.) a mini-elliptical connected to your computer so you can move, 2.) Haptic/touch feedback controller 3.) VR with fovea rendering

[@superscatboy]

@@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez All England need to do to win the world cup is to score higher than the other teams.

[@thomascuvillier7250]

You are forgeting one: - the year crypto will find actual use cases xD

[@jimh472]

Bruh, that last one actually has a possibility of happening

[@nielsunnerup7099]

@@jimh472 And this year is the year!

[@CottidaeSEA]

Now give us the one about Kubernetes... bonus points if you have an actual orchestra while talking about orchestration.

[@sumitpurohit8849]

Yay! Finally got SATAN Stack in 2024.

[@SharunKumar]

Gilfoyle approves

[@iswm]

looks more like miniature headwear stack to me... oh wait... same thing.

[@dadcodes]

"2024 is the year of serverlesslessness" let's go htmx!

[@LHCB6]

"Don't write this down, all of this is gonna change." 😂🤣😂⚰

[@timmeeyh6523]

its the best lol

[@AK-vx4dy]

I'm stunned by amout on work you done in this (and not gone crazy themselfs) :D

[@utubekade]

remember the old days when only the most proven/mature technologies would be employed in production! Yeah now it like, oh look it shiny!

[@BusinessWolf1]

Well yea in those days the only companies doing anything in software were absolute giants and nobodies. Now there's a middle ground, and there are lots of competitive edges to be gained in the weeds of this stuff.

[@rwrunning1813]

​@@BusinessWolf1excuses

[@paulgaddis4329]

This was a tech refresh planning video. JS/TS has reinvented how to safely roll a tricycle down a bowling alley with bumper rails over and over again.

[@mal798]

It's the desire to understand something esoteric. Once it becomes mainstream it's time to remake it.

[@segueoyuri]

@@mal798 In this industry there's definitely the ego need to write the most convoluted code possible just to look at it and feel smart hahahaha If one day I get to boss I'll fire every single person that writes that sort of bs

[@mahdiaghaei8154]

"What is V8?" "Exactly!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Joker22593]

The pentagram was a nice touch

[@panstromek]

the desperate face on "... if you know how to write an adapter" is too real

[@GPT-4_Beta]

This is both, the worst nightmare I ever had AND the best dream of my life. Depending on whether I was the teacher or the student in my dream.

[@ChiefBridgeFuser]

More than 30 years ago I was tempted to move towards info sys / business system software development. So glad I stayed in the hard, underpaid world of real time embedded. So much less tool chain chaos and nonsense.

[@vladimirarnost8020]

Same but enjoying peaceful well-paid life as a low-latency/high-throughput multi-threaded Linux C++ developer in financial services. I just write the code, test it, deploy it and run it. What a bliss when everything simply works. 😊

[@xybersurfer]

it really depends on the job. any business worth their salt wouldn't keep changing out the tools. embedded on the other seems a bit monotonous

[@EmptyZoo393]

@@xybersurfer Embedded often requires you to get nice and cozy with and oscilloscope. Particularly if you're dealing with lots of off-chip communication, you have to be able to check the transactions in real time. Some days are really monotonous, some days something blows up.

[@burnere633]

Initial reaction: severe Krazam microservices vibes.

[@XDarkGreyX]

Obviously. Camera, acting, music, etc.

[@dirtywhitellama]

I'm mildly terrified by how much of this I actually understood.

[@suvalaki]

“We might as well rewrite straight to rust. Good idea”… “I didn’t say anything” Accurate

[@wisdomelue]

“renamed to nativewind once it started working” 😭😭

[@nullbeyondo]

"Which works with any ORM or database!" "...If you know how to write the adapter." LMFAO

[@pyajudeme9245]

Genius! I have watched every video on your channel at least 20 times.

[@ryanisthewind]

-but couldn't drizzle just... -Silence 🤣🤣

[@runvnc208]

ohh.. drizzle is real also?

[@UIEngineering]

"We push on save." This is the WAY! 🙇

[@za_wavbit]

That's so old-school, we push on screen refresh. If you're not deploying thousands of times per minute are you even doing cloudgitops?

[@plaintext7288]

2024 is the year of server-ful linux desktop🎉

[@alxreiuuser5717]

Make it make it happen.

[@limbo3545]

That makes me rethink my life decisions knowing more than half of what he was talking about.

[@ceigey-au]

Ok this video is spot on. Literal senior JS developer bootcamp. The opening statement is pretty much on the money, and it's funny to see a lot of similar arguments to the ones I've had to make (also hono is great, and TIL tamagui exists, looks like a React native equivalent to Nuxt UI, cool beans) Everything's simple as long as you follow the N^N-step library selection flowchart and try and imagine business requirements from 3 years in the future. Very agile! Very prototype friendly! So scalable! /s (I still love the ecosystem and you can get cool stuff done fast but if anyone tells you that JS is faster for prototypes than "compiled languages", nah man it's all the same as soon as you hit a smidgeon of complexity, trust me just read the docs for spring boot and Kotlin or ASP and C# and you'll soon be just as happy... although TBH I miss the relative simplicity of package.json + vite)

[@codeintherough]

Gone are the days where web dev was the most accessible kind of programming

[@Lazllb]

hilarious how accurate this actually is 😂

[@shadowslayer2248]

Surprisingly I understood most of the tech that he talked about, well that's a win I guess

[@GamingGeek9000]

Oh I am actually a senior dev. Thanks for showing XD. Also so much of it is true that it's upsetting

[@yxyk-fr]

that's the point, I think. First, laugh. Then whine and despair.

[@GamingGeek9000]

@@yxyk-fr Well that happened I am currently questioning my life choices

[@volchonokilliR]

@@yxyk-fr ... or continue laughing if you're not a Senior JS developer

[@hakooplayplay3212]

​@@volchonokilliRI'm laughing hard especially, because I was js dev 5 years, but now half year working with simple yet powerful golang. So I laughed happily 🤣

[@yxyk-fr]

@@volchonokilliR the problem of laughing is that it's only copium to dull our hurt feelings, and the copium's effect wears of quickly, revealing the dark and nauseating reality. Yes web dev is f***** up 😛 OK back to my C-POSIX-sockets monothreaded HTTP server.

[@SimonLaudati]

“Don’t write this down, next week all is gonna change” so true 😂

[@kgsphinx]

I feel so sorry for JS devs… but then again they love it.

[@kakwa]

To some degrees, they are even responsible for it.

[@peterdieleman303]

Javascript.

[@eugenej.5584]

@@kakwa ​ @kakwa THEY HAVE MAID THEIR GRAVE AND NOW HAVE TO LAY IN IT 💀

[@za_wavbit]

Most just ignore it tbh. Like in any speciality, the newest stuff is basically just the domain of Twitter influencers.

[@oskar1504]

@@za_wavbit Fact.

[@BlackbeardKNAC]

I decided rather arbitrarily more than a decade ago that I was going to be a front end developer and so I learned JavaScript, and I mean I really learned it. Then I started writing services in Python and C#. I quickly learned that actual software engineering on the server is like reading a novel where coding on the front end with JavaScript is like reading the funny pages in the Saturday paper.

[@moonasha]

as someone who just sticks to c#, sometimes I think about learning some JS/web stuff, then that one clip from Monty Python and the Holy Grail plays in my head, about Camelot. "On Second thought let's not learn Javascript, it is a silly language..."

[@za_wavbit]

It's a fine language, now that we have TC39 to save it from the browser vendors. It's just the ecosystem that's a little silly sometimes.

[@Paretozen]

language is just typescript, which is basically the same as c#, unless you wanna do some real fancy stuffs. but that's more for the realm of framework developers. I love typescript just as much as I love C#.

[@hakooplayplay3212]

Worked as js dev 5years and now I'm happy golang dev 😊 happy that escape 😂

[@TommyAMV]

Holy crap, I didn’t expect that at all. That’s my mind 6 months ago when I started my project in T4. This feels personal dude

[@rawpointer]

C++ seniors are the bearded ones. JS seniors use mustaches. Nothing escapes me.

[@rajington]

Bold of you to assume this video will still be relevant for all of 2024

[@The_Living_Room_Tapes]

only about 1 out of 50 people will get this, great stuff man!! You are a one man sub-genre! more about c++

[@Puschit1]

That's what's so great about his skits - I only understand about 10% of it but it's hilarious anyway, especially knowing that all of this is not as gibberish as it sounds. The parts I DO understand are always spot on, so I assume everything else is, too.

[@vladimirarnost8020]

I'm a seasoned C++ developer and even advanced template metaprogramming sounds like a walk in the park compared to the utter dependency hell of JS web development. I admit I understood practically nothing in the video, probably because I became a programmer in 1987 when computers were very simple.

[@OsaPL1]

The real question is, does it work with Galactus service? Haha, lovin this Krazam parody.

[@FRanger92]

This you: Carmela-bixoxo 18 minutes ago The real question is, does it work with Galactus service? Haha, lovin this Krazam parody Should i use here??? lmao They even forgot to remove the newline character with thier bot! lmao KZbin is full of this shit.

[@SteveOnTheInterweb]

As I have not used Javascript for 9 months I honestly can't tell if this is made up or not, but it is for sure realistic and hilarious!

[@jm-alan]

I really wanted to enjoy this video but it was so realistic I went temporarily insane with rage

[@frejpersson3199]

My advice; become an accountant, get a girl, house and a family.

[@kanekiuchiha5493]

As a professional backend dev I felt that ... Time to look for another job😂

[@nyandyn]

Discord ping at 0:33. Priceless.

[@z4zuse]

I am glad it has subtitles, to ensure that I have no clue

[@DaltonR121]

I need a reaction video out of Theo. Legit surprised I haven't seen a reaction out of Primeagen yet.

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

It's out.

[@tehArgento]

Sr was just trying to vent and rant with someone that has to listen to him and just watch. Perfect use of a junior willing to endure anything just to get a job XD

[@AnindoSarker]

I have no idea how, but literally I'm stuck with exactly everything shown in this video. And fuck next auth client but I can't so gotta use it anyways 😢

[@poorusher]

Also "The documentation hasn't been started yet".

[@JamesMoyle_3p]

That is so good. Theo mentioned !!!

[@aaaaanh]

We went from galactus back in the good ole days on a million dollar per month cluster to t4 cutting edge scale to 0 cost and 0 income, I’m so proud of this field

[@amandahugankiss4110]

even missing most of the jokes this shit is still funny.

[@zechordlord]

"Of course we might as well rewrite all of it to Rust. Good idea" "I didn't say anything" I'm dead :D

[@abdellahcodes]

The most real depiction of the js landscape 😂

[@lllllllllillilillll]

KRAZAM's video made me strongly consider to opt for frontend. This one makes me think backend wasn't _that_ bad after all...

[@andrewschroeder9502]

The Jack Borrough x Kai Lenit crossover episode!

[@BananasananaB]

'We push on save' needs to be a decal/sticker/tshirt.

[@benonyoutube]

As a developer of nearly 20 years, I hate how wildly inaccurate, but also painfully accurate this is.

[@andersonentwistle]

I'm feeling this to be more reality than satire, must be why I wasn't laughing too much 😭 very much JavaScript-only

[@za_wavbit]

I think the main thing that's inaccurate is the "senior" part. Never met a senior+ who actually jumped on every hype train like this, it's only the Kent Dodds types who spend their lives shilling every new library they find on Github

[@nascentcloud3740]

I have a secret, none of this matters. Just use Angular and if you use javascript on the backend, then you need to learn Java.

[@rrmackay]

Sitting here watching this while building a React component in JS

[@za_wavbit]

React is obsolete, now you have to rewrite in Svelte. Oh wait that's obsolete now, time for another rewrite in Hyperscript. Oh wait...

[@rrmackay]

​@@za_wavbit I felt so betrayed when JavaScript became a server side language, it was always super crappy on the front end. Then Novonox paid me to port the Netscape JavaScript server engine and I was more than happy to be paid to be the one porting javascript to the backend. In the end all the righteous claims about languages and purity fade into noise when someone is paying you to do it.

[@skorotkiewicz]

I know it was supposed to be a comedy, but it's actually a reality and not a comedy, it's more like a documentary, I myself use BlitzJS and Prisma, but I also use T3 and Prisma, I love Prisma because it's really simple and works really well with JS/TS.

[@kalaiselvanra]

He chose death when he asked about Kubernetes 😂

[@mccafferyfamily]

Met some devs that past year which would be interesting use cases even if there stereotypes are not well known 1) A developer stuck in 1985 still using Clipper (Dbase compiled language) for MS-DOS to develop financial management s/w for their enterprise 2) A developer stuck in 1992 still using Visual Basic 3 designed for Windows 3.1 to develop their internal software building with OLE & DDE

[@GoKotlinJava]

can't find free cloudflare runtime edge worker < 1mb? Free plan has a limit right. 100k worker seconds?

[@MikkoRantalainen]

The only joke in this video is the beard, the rest is 100% real for many JS developers, unfortunately.

[@codenocode]

why is no one talking about SATAN stack and the star ⭐️

[@clickykbd]

I believe in those contexts they are called pentagrams. ;-)

[@idunno121]

How is having an empty office building a reason to write everything in Javascript?

[@Softcushion]

Might as well be a documentary.

[@creamyhorror]

Pentagram with SATAN, hah. Ouch, I understand all of this (and have looked at most of the libraries). Figuring out what works with what and also works on mobile and whether it does auth and whether to use Postgres or a Postgres derivative like Supabase and which ORM to use and can it work with tRPC and what front-end UI store & query cache to use and what websocket library is usable and whether it has React Native adapters and whether to use k8s yadda is just painful. Then you make some progress and realise some part of some library isn't ready/compatible, and have to backtrack. In other languages, people create frameworks integrating a workable set of libraries/tech, but JS having to handle mobile apps and styling and websockets and all in addition to the backend really makes for a tougher job. It's unlike other ecosystems like PHP, C#, etc., where centralised framework teams make all these choices.

[@TravisHi_YT]

"lol Tamagui, supabass, these ridiculous made up names!" Oh, they're all real :(

[@giorgos-4515]

type safe styling is something years before we could not even imagine.

[@adreto2978]

we are approaching front end singularity

[@perelium-x]

did he just draw A pentagram & satan at the top...what kinda ritual is this🤣.

[@tecsmith_info]

Just found your channel, very funny, subscribed!