Into The Dirt At 180mph - AVA's first HPR Flight

[@Rutherford_Sam]

"Uh oh" "Indeed :("

[@maxk4324]

AVA: Huh, that's odd. Hey Flash chip. Flash chip: What's up? AVA: This is gonna sound crazy, but I just spoke with IMU and she told me we've exceeded the G load limit of your solder joints...... AVA: .....Flash chip?

[@Tonatsi]

note-

[@sciencecompliance235]

More like: AVA: This is gonna sound crazy, but I just spoke with IMU and she told me we've exceeded the G load limi

[@unpaidintern6652]

@@sciencecompliance235 AVA: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DO

[@BPSspace]

RIP in peace, AVA :'(

[@jadensmiley6297]

Is this AVA any different from the previous AVA that flew Scout and Sprint besides the color?

[@kvatikoss1730]

Rip

[@Formula1st]

F

[@stochasticsignal1951]

Do you mean RIPieces? D:

[@Bageltin]

more like RIP in space

[@rototiller345]

"Ava could have saved the flight, whatever I'm over it" hahahahahahaha

[@BPSspace]

Narrator: He was not over it

[@datalorian]

@@BPSspace oof. Love your humor :)

[@___Alastor___]

Small note that it couldn't, since the charge actually fired :P

[@Mallchad]

@@BPSspace read this is Morgan Freeman's voice.

[@blakeguyan2662]

@@BPSspace how would it have saved the flight if there was not enough black powder, was there a backup charge?

[@notmattgraham]

God-tier camera tracking on that flight.

[@NeoSteelZero]

Camera Tracking isn't rocket science :P

[@christopherleveck6835]

@@NeoSteelZero its rocket tracking science.

[@floodgates6210]

@@NeoSteelZero apparently for some people it is

[@anukrathnayake]

​@@NeoSteelZero but it's cool. and difficult...

[@Jaiden_floydlive]

10 years later “sending Ava to the moon” and landing

[@kahanshah7654]

Maybe earlier just hope that he will soon get success !!

[@hawwin]

and flying to the moon for searching for a flaschip lol

[@keineAhnungka]

@ISHAN PATEL if you arrive at the moon-surface at only 180 miles per hour that counts as a success

[@Jaiden_floydlive]

@@hawwin lol so true

[@riccardoorlando2262]

Sooo, uh, we DID get to the moon... 's sphere of influence... So the data did get transmitted, you can see the Doppler shift which is pretty cool, but the rocket didn't hit the moon so it's gonna fall back down now. Watch your head three months from now, I guess.

[@d00dEEE]

Note to self: always use bright orange conformal coating.

[@dragoonTT]

I let a two stage rip and never seen it again. God bless if you got your noggin knocked by my rocket.

[@brontosaurusburger]

You can get CC that fluoresces in UV light. Wouldn't be too helpful in midday sun, but if you can get back in the evening with a black light it would help.

[@montecri]

Or enclose it in a "black box". Perhaps test different black box builds to balance weight and resistance. Aluminum, ABS, with and without expandable foam inside, etc.

[@unpaidintern6652]

@@dragoonTT In that case, you are probaly the record holder for the fastete craniotomy

[@revjohnlee]

As somebody who who has been an avid rocketry fan for probably longer than you have been alive, and who has watched with awe and amazement all of the excellent work you have done, I would like to respectfully and humbly correct your terminology upon finding the remains of the rocket. In such sad circumstances, both my NAR section and TRA section say "rest in pieces" instead of "rest in peace". Seriously, you seem to achieve on a regular basis things that I only dreamed of going back to 1975. Wonderful work!

[@andrewjvaughan]

8:25 you’re gonna seriously confuse an old dude with a metal detector some day - “what civil war battle was this...!?”

[@ryanmartin5668]

“The Confederacy’s rocket program was far more advanced than we ever suspected!”

[@coreys2686]

I guess RIP means "Resting in Pieces" this time.

[@DrewB0119]

How on earth could you keep a straight face on that intro 😂

[@fallofboots]

I would laugh to much in that intro.

[@coreys2686]

I'm sure there was a couple retakes.

[@AlanTheBeast100]

Practice my boy, practice.

[@SithaSek]

Because that crash is a breakthrough that can be a troll. :)

[@dyo-senpai9532]

JOE YOU CAN BEAT ARCA. GODSPEED BPS!

[@julianpetit4180]

Of course, ARCA's goal is nearly impossible.

[@robossbomb0000]

So far he already has ♾ more flights

[@theprussianempire8931]

Yep

[@ermitafili4278]

Joe has already beaten them, they have no flights , ARCA just creates some dumb concepts and never fly them.

[@Derlaft]

@@julianpetit4180 ARCA's goal is scam, so it's quite possible (:

[@somehow_sane]

"Houston, we have a problem." PS: Congrats on the sponsor!

[@daviddavis]

Houston, we have a sponsor

[@ErikB605]

Like the old saying goes: better launched and lost than never launched at all

[@retro-cosmodrome5584]

Agreed. Part and Parcel of Flying

[@bp56789]

All is fair in missiles and war.

[@AlwafiCharki]

Lets hope north korea's president wont read that

[@arthurbranch5863]

Great to see you back Joe! Time to beat Arca to the Karman line!

[@Fred_the_1996]

I think he needs to work on smaller rockets first to really master the concepts

[@Formula1st]

@@Fred_the_1996 I think arca needs to work on real rockets

[@Fred_the_1996]

@@Formula1st lol

[@arthurbranch5863]

@@Formula1st facts haha

[@StefsEngineering]

"We have had.... an anomaly" is what I heard in my mind when it hit the ground.... (I am referring to what the woman said in the recording of the Delta 2 rocket that exploded after launch in 1997)

[@thespacenerd1790]

way to true

[@jgus6]

I'm somewhat embarrassed that I immediately got that reference 💀

[@theredstonehive]

Hmm never seen a Flight Computer with that shape before...

[@BPSspace]

It has only flown once, and it's in a very good shape! I mean, not a rectangular shape, but a shape nonetheless

[@Bageltin]

@@BPSspace as a professional on shapes, I can conclusively confirm that is indeed a shape.

[@RobGirdler]

Curved to fit the contour of the body!

[@stijn2472]

@@BPSspace I'm actually interested in buying it. Any way possible? That's some history right there!

[@mumblbeebee6546]

@@BPSspace It is a very shapely shape, and if I wasn’t already in trouble about “too much stuff” I would bid for it as a memento mori!

[@nealbagai5388]

Him getting the data back was honestly like the Pathfinder revival part in the Martian

[@mumblbeebee6546]

Joe totally excited digging for microchips in the dirt while Parker is being restrained off camera... :)

[@orangeduritospacesystems8476]

This felt much relaxed and calm even though the whole video was about the chaos that ensued. Just reading the graphs and drawing insightful inferences. Also that catch about 'the computer picking up its own death' - so deep and chilling!

[@couperr9283]

we love you joe, keep being you 😁

[@readysetnogo]

Even though you lost the rocket, it's always a great feeling that the fail safes you built in actually worked when it comes to the flight data recovery. It's bittersweet, but the data is recovered and you can actually learn from the failure now.

[@nytrunner9009]

We were happy to have y'all down at HARA! Serious dedication hunting trough the dirt for all those components

[@danhellgren5671]

As an electronic engineer I found it most interesting that the components came loose at impact. Was it the solder that gave up or was the copper pads ripped of the pcb?

[@FakeButt]

I was wondering the same. Maybe a combination of both. I am surprised the IC itself survived - no broken pins on the outside and since he was able to read the contents no issues on the inside of the package :O

[@Pr0xy_xx]

First time I’ve gotten to see AVA’s telemetry in depth, had no idea of the data being sent! This is so cool, can’t wait to see you scale up on your rocket power!!!!

[@dougyoud5944]

Welcome back! Hope you’re feeling better

[@elijahbachrach6579]

Glad you’re back, Joe. You inspired me to get into electronics. I’m a cabinet maker by trade, but I’ve made a few simple robots now and am saving up for a computer so I can try my hand a coding. Keep doing what you love.

[@Eselfar]

Really impressed that you managed to recover the data. I genuinely thought everything was lost for good.

[@impossiblesquad140]

This is by far my favorite KZbin channel. I can’t wait for future flights with AVA! Maybe you could try to figure out how to use AVA to make it correct itself and stay straight up on a high altitude test(kind of like past videos). I’m trying to work on that myself!

[@Carhill]

Congrats on the sponsor! Great video, mate. It's good to see you back in my sub feed. Take care and godspeed!

[@eannamcnamara9338]

'I love the BPS space merch will make literally every aspects of your life better' description 😄

[@davidlabedz2046]

Looking forward to all your flights this year. Fligh high and safely!

[@thenewbygamers]

How viable would it be to coat the components in some kind of glow-in-the-dark paint, or something that stands out under UV light? That way you could find any lost components far quicker and more reliably.

[@gsuberland]

A small holographic sticker, like the "WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED" ones, would do the job quite nicely. They're really shiny so it's much easier to spot them in the grass, and they tend to glow under UV. My other thought was, weight permitting, you could add a small EMI shield over the board around the EEPROM. It'd offer significant additional physical strength and increase the likelihood that the chip would be captured in a catastrophic landing like that, even if the chip was still ripped off the board by the shock of a crash.

[@BrianMillerCEO]

Good to see you back!

[@B_Poort]

Maybe take a metal detector with you the next time, so you can find lost parts more easily!

[@janosskublics7438]

I dont think that would help with sutch small parts

[@mynameisjeff-spaceposting1417]

I'd be scared to magnetize certain parts but good idea for non-sensitive components

[@B_Poort]

@@mynameisjeff-spaceposting1417 yeah on second though I thought the same, but it might work

[@kinglolbjd9622]

@@B_Poort ​ @János Skublics magnet will pull the Lost part Then it will explode

[@kinglolbjd9622]

@@mynameisjeff-spaceposting1417 ​ @János Skublics magnet will pull the Lost part Then it will explode

[@Lightraymuse]

Your mention of the Jet Propulsion Lab, reminded this proud citizen of Aotearoa New Zealand, of Bill (William Hayward) Pickering, A Kiwi (New Zealander) who majored in telemetry and was director of the JPL from 1954 - 1976. His group was responsible for the launch of Explorer 1 and many important unmanned space exploration flights. And that Folks concludes today's lesson in history..

[@jeffgrant935]

A screen grab from 15:58 would make for a cool poster/print to hang on the wall, for posterity. All kidding aside, great video, and thanks so much for sharing. It's when things go wrong that you learn the most... so thanks for sharing that learning experience with us, despite the pain. It's incredibly educational. Thanks for that.

[@Luke-gh9dv]

I am so glad you’re back😀

[@zxggwrt]

Glad you're back brother 🤩

[@sebastiaomendonca1477]

5:21 ok but can we talk about how good that tracking is

[@T3ki1a_]

Didn't knew you were back from your brake, glad to see you back and feeling better

[@ninjadeamon]

I would buy a broken flight computer. Like not even kidding.

[@stijn2472]

Same here

[@omniyambot9876]

Yeah it looks cool

[@Lightraymuse]

As a framed piece of historical sculpture, it will become extremely valuable, especially after Joe pulls off his his first interstellar launch.

[@denniskatinas]

Great to see you back at it.

[@xavierlahey]

Joe, that was a mortar round, and f*cking awsome, hopefully it's an ICBM next time

[@roberts.2409]

FINALLY A BPS VIDEO!!!!!! Thanks!

[@Golem386]

What's that plotting software at 10:30 called? I'd like to use that myself 🙂

[@CaptainPineapples]

Bump

[@FakeButt]

yeah looks nice

[@jxdigital]

I have the same question!

[@zabuzay9869]

Same here

[@polarisbear7468]

It’s self writtwn

[@fabricioleinat]

It is really exciting to see you making this kind of videos again. It is just fuking amazing lol 😆. All the best for your project from Brazil 🇧🇷

[@om3.33]

He made me go to the bps website to see if he was actually selling AVA

[@romerobryan83]

Lol!

[@h2macm]

Glad you're back in action.

[@maxhouseman3129]

Which software do you use for analyzing the data? Looks very cool!

[@DeanMilan]

Truly one of the most amazing channels I've seen during my 6 years on KZbin, fantastic. Keep it going man.

[@adamcraig1012]

That chip is an amazing tiny black box!

[@MrScooter46290]

Yes this was a amazing pre thought on how to protect your data.. even Daddy Elon wouldn't have taken the time to code the boards to check for old flash data! Bravo! Just inspiring!

[@ericromano3964]

So glad you’re putting out content again!!

[@theprussianempire8931]

Woot woot he back 2 weeks in a row. Already saw this on the second channel. Also, 3:20, you mean deploy chutes and fire charges? You said it the other way around.

[@brentsteward3790]

It is so great to see a smile on your face again and sharing in the joy you obviously have doing this. Even in the face of a failure. Very proud of you for making changes in your life so that you enjoy this again and allow us to enjoy it as well.

[@hexa3920]

What's the name of the data visualization software you're using?

[@SteveSiegelin]

Also that was an ingenious move on the flash chip, I may have to use that! You can't have success without failure so fail on with pride my friend! Success is right around the corner and we'll all keep watching so you get paid for it 👍

[@atalazs]

Cool Video! thank you. What software do you use to display the logging data? If its self written - can you tell the plotting lib?

[@johnpartstaylor9010]

following

[@manuelimboden1582]

I was wondering about that too

[@ilyasrahmouni3800]

Love your vids !

[@lucasa6132]

Nice one! Thanks for sharing! By the way, what is the software you are using to analyze the plots?!

[@johnpartstaylor9010]

following

[@manuelimboden1582]

Following

[@01Fratricide]

Beautiful Black-Box-Recover.... Truly awesome! Happy to see you happy again. It truly sucks, when you cant share the Pain and Joys of success with physical people.

[@Acrophobia2]

Heeessss baaaaack!

[@SasquatchComposites]

Cool to see you taking on sponsors. It means bigger and better things to come, and hopefully means you won’t ever be living out of your car :)

[@berdmetheus7840]

When do you plan on using liquid fuel? you've talked about it a bit so I've been wondering when that might happen

[@adfaklsdjf]

I thought he had said probably not

[@davidwarren9780]

In the states you need tons of licensees an stuff to be able to launch with liquid fuel, I want to use liquid fuel so bad

[@amessman]

It must've been impressive seeing that HPR take off in person. Also I gotta mention how the AVA board was bent and not snapped, that's a high quality PCB right there!

[@michaelmacdonald5674]

one of the first for the first time!!!!! this never happens to me! Thank you YT gods!

[@liamspence9763]

I'm glad you're getting sponsors now! RIP AVA, but it's great you got the data!

[@THECESARIOUX]

OMG Iwas hoping for this

[@JimmyZNJ]

Having had a high power failure or two in my time in my many years in rocketry, I can feel the pain of such a loss. As an engineer, I am glad you were able to salvage your data. The very first time I flew a homebrew data package built around a Raspberry Pi Zero, it was a shovel recovery, with the rocket stuck several feet into the ground. I got my data though. I love the technical challenge of all that you attempt. Glad to see you back at it! 🚀

[@jmw7312]

press F to pay respect for AVA

[@stefanturcu6547]

Thank you for the video, Joe! Happy to see you back!

[@benisjammin8926]

I have a friend named Ava and I chuckled every 20 seconds

[@StringWeasel]

You're a great storyteller. Really enjoying your progress! :D

[@dyo-senpai9532]

eat sleep scrub repeat! XD! i love those NSF shirts

[@ericslaimshow]

These videos are so cool. Glad you're back from the break

[@stochasticsignal1951]

A flash chip!? That's great! I've been trying to use an SD card to write in real time, but there are sometimes huge delays as the card writer hits a memory boundary, now I want to give this a try! What flash chip do you use? Great video as always. I love a good unplanned disassembly!

[@peterfireflylund]

They are cheap, easy to program, holds a lot of memory, are physically small, and write fast. It doesn’t really matter which one you chose, you can’t really go wrong. Writing is fast, clearing (erasing) a page/sector may not be fast. Make sure the chip is pre-cleared before the flight. Use two of them, mark them with a dot of orange nail polish, and maybe pack the PCB in something shock absorbing. Edit: autocorrect had turned "easy" into "use".

[@stochasticsignal1951]

@@peterfireflylund Thanks for the suggestion. I've been looking at a lot of chips. I'll have to learn how to program them to begin with. I gotta ask, why the dot of nail polish?

[@peterfireflylund]

@@stochasticsignal1951 So you can find them when the rocket lithobrakes :) They are NOT hard to program, unless you find a completely weirdo one. There is pseudocode + flowcharts in the datasheet. Many of them also have easily found source code in C and/or assembly somewhere on the net.

[@Spacedog49]

I find no difference between a micro SD card and a Flash chip for write speed. When I capture data at microsecond intervals, I write to FRAM's then transfer the data to a micro SD card. Using QSPI also helps.

[@stochasticsignal1951]

@@Spacedog49 Thanks! Writing to the internal RAM as a buffer followed by a big write to an SD isn't a bad idea. I'll have to see if I can learn a good process for that.

[@matthewpeterson5159]

Sorry to see the crash landing, but love to see the amazing work you do! Keep it up! :)

[@velocitylaunchsystems]

5:20 I'm having so many flashbacks to past rocket launches

[@melplishka5978]

Well done. Your a true rocket engineer my friend.

[@3DPDK]

"If you must crash, at least crash spectacularly!" (somebody ... sometime ... probably) What a crash that was - lawn dart x1000!

[@vihangpathak9759]

Joe please don't stop making such precious knowledgeable content much love

[@wadlet3380]

everyone saying "we have the data, thats all we need" when their rocket crashes

[@emperorsmizz7439]

This is true though you find out what went wrong so you can improve for the next flight im building my own engines for fuel management

[@wadlet3380]

@@emperorsmizz7439 yes I agree. also what kind of engines are you building?

[@emperorsmizz7439]

@@wadlet3380 a reusable model rocket engine which separates fuel stacks when 1st burn is complete simply open chamber drop fuel in close chamber reignite either as a 2nd burn or landing burn , its going to take sometime to perfect but ill make a youtube channel for that I also have rotational engines for a harrier like landing they will be interesting as I can turn a rocket into hybrid rocketjet

[@wadlet3380]

@@emperorsmizz7439 thats cool! are you using solid fuel engines? also are you designing a rocket then 3d printing it?

[@emperorsmizz7439]

@@wadlet3380 yes for solid fuel and thats the plan so far but I think they will be easy to make

[@jsmithproductions]

absolutely loved this video! glad to see you back and looking vibrant

[@cykappa6479]

He is so dedicated to be like Elon that he did the "SN8-9 trick"

[@franteryda4730]

Great video Joe! It's mindblowing how you recovered the data. Btw, I'm extremely glad to see a sponsored video

[@rocket_nerd]

Question: Why is the telemetry interface NOT in light mode? Thanks.

[@benharris8382]

Glad you took your break and even happier to see you back from it. I look forward to seeing Eva touch down again!

[@porshmouthfireandrescue7046]

Wow I'm 11 year's old and u have inspired me to make model rockets i always loved space i do astronomy I'm gonna have my first rocket flight soon i just need to design it

[@Evan394]

i love this story of collecting the data from the broken bits. amazing work.

[@aksh_x_]

Ayo Joey are you ok? Edit: Yk just asking well I'm fine btw

[@radders261]

Mate, I find your videos fascinating! Can't wait for the next update and much love from England :)

[@thomasdrysdale4240]

This guy legit could build a guided missile of he wanted

[@emperorsmizz7439]

Its not hard they just don't want anyone to make them for obvious reasons hardest part is keeping signal during flight the rest is simple

[@fullflowaerospace]

its illegal.

[@Greekazoid]

So nice having you back Joe! I always learn and laugh every video.

[@tomik9868]

Am I the only one who feels like this man looks just like younger Elon?

[@kinglolbjd9622]

Ya Hes like elon but making model rockets

[@gbedford]

I haven't flown any of my model rockets for years. Believe me, I've had my share of core samples, I feel your and Parker's pain. Keep up the amazing work and I can't wait to see the next flight!

[@johnsmit6111]

My condolences to you and Parker for the lost hardware. Hopefully the next flight goes better!

[@nuhadhnufail4805]

Yay welcome back Joe! Hope you had an amazing break

[@jasonm5797]

Keep up the great work and videos coming BPS!

[@AllOfMyWat]

this is actually one of my favorite videos now, my friend.

[@techvora]

You're best joe . I love your works🚀😉👍