The Exorcism of Anelise Michel

[@Furball891]

The priest's comment that she "didn't look like an epileptic" is wild considering that epilepsy (no matter which type or severity you have) is not associated with any physical features apart from the seizures, so unless the patient is currently having a seizure, you can't tell they have an epilepsy just by looking at them.

[@endearingteacup]

It doesn’t or does look like something and therefore can’t or can be said thing is the favourite “argument” of people who have no clue what they’re talking about.

[@jeffdroog]

That's the same kind of priest who says,"they don't look like a child molestor",right before hiring some random man off the street,with no background check,to be a priest lol

[@bluebelle8823]

Epileptic here, was coming here to say the same thing. I'd never seen that little quote from Alt and I've seen quite a few people cover this story now

[@stephanybrown3226]

Exactly! My mother has epilepsy but hasn't had an episode in year's due to medicine!

[@bluebelle8823]

@@stephanybrown3226 I'm happy for her. May her healthy run continue.

[@coffeecat086]

As someone with temporal lobe epilepsy, so glad it’s more understood. We were and still are stigmatized just because our brains like to randomly do crap for no reason. 😢

[@TypeZeta2]

I’m glad a lot of things to do with the human brain are more understood. As someone with autism I hope the stigma around things like epilepsy and autism goes away because it’s not our faults our brains are the way they are. Yet it’s treated like it is our fault.

[@coffeecat086]

@@TypeZeta2 yup!

[@doclewis8927]

Someone telling you day in and day out for 10 months that "hate takes you" and "you envy other angels" while you're hallucinating from being hungry and dehydrated WOULD cause you to have even MORE religious delusions.

[@Chris-hx3om]

And that's all religion is, delusions.

[@Wintermute909]

Heh yeah...... I'm starting to wonder if future historians will view "gender affirming care" the same way. There are actually a lot of disturbing similarities .

[@CantHandleThisCanYa]

@@Wintermute909science based medicine and religious delusions are not comparable, but go on lmfao

[@Wintermute909]

@@CantHandleThisCanYa the biological science that currently recognises only 2 sexes in every single organism including humans....or is this the same science that encouraged lobotomies 75 years ago?

[@Tinklemist]

"It's not our fault - she REFUSED to eat. We couldn't just FORCE her to do it. You know how much we respect her personal autonomy!" - RCC

[@doclewis8927]

The "parents suffered"? I'd beg to differ and say that their daughter suffered.

[@littlemissgwendolen1466]

Let’s say that she was possessed, that does not mean she didn’t also need medical care. This poor girl could’ve been admitted to a hospital and maybe saved. But no, her parents and the priests let her starve herself to death.

[@doclewis8927]

She should've been put in a hospital when she started talking about wanting to die AND refusing food. She COULD'VE been committed for her own safety. You could see the retraction of her lips and gums from dehydration in many of the pictures before her passing.

[@DebTheDevastator]

There was the death of a child recently by exorcism in California, USA. The toddler was crying a lot and the mom thought it was demons. Her, her uncle, and the priest were arrested, charged, and found guilty. There is religious freedom but that doesn't give you a right to kill your kid with the excuse of "they had demons."

[@ashb7846]

I also can’t help but think, how is it much different to have someone die via exorcism and excuse yourself my saying “Now they’re free from the demon,” as opposed to straight drowning them to death and saying the same thing? “No! You don’t understand! My religion says I’m allowed to suffocate the devil out and if the patient can’t be resuscitated afterward that’s simply God’s will!”

[@kevinburt44]

What a very sad thing to happen.

[@Lottie-Lou]

I think the thing that really angers me regarding this tale is that less than 30 years after Annelise died there was a movie about what she suffered. Even today, you see movies with possession in it, replicating a tonic clonic seizure - this is a medical emergency that causes us to lose consciousness, we lose oxygen to the brain and we can die from it. As someone with Epilepsy, I wish every actor who has to play a possessed character would learn fully about Epilepsy before deciding that is what they want to use as a sign of possession. What they do perpetuate the stigma people have against Epilepsy.

[@nowt2957]

I think the problem here is that "possession" actually means epilepsy in a lot of cases - it's the word ignorant and dangerous people use for it and, in this case, had their way with the sufferer and killed her. If somebody were to accurately portray somebody "possessed by the devil" they would do nothing out of the ordinary as there is no such thing. Possession is made up by the feeble minded and the ignorant.

[@matteste]

​@@nowt2957And even if you were to stick to the fantasy, chances are you still wouldn't notice anything. After all, if Satan is supposed to be such a manipulator, you would assume he would take steps not to get caught.

[@braxtondavis393]

Ah yes the classic Latin speaking seizures I've heard all about

[@lostbutfreesoul]

So let me understand this: They did the exorcism in Secret, on the grounds of 'she doesn't look epileptic?' I have a feeling this was less about the exorcism and more about the glory of 'divine healing.' That the priests doing this only thought about the bragging rights they would have afterwards. Being able to 'prove' that a clear medical illness is really 'demons that can be banished,' is a big feather in the cap for any bishop.

[@Wintermute909]

Good grief! What sort of bishops are in your area? In Australia i can't imagine any bishop even thinking that they could banish demons, let alone thinking it would gain him credibility.

[@zoe_dawg]

Yes the request for an exorcism was actually rejected bc of the absurdity of the claim

[@mokujikifever]

the constant flashing in this video isn’t enough to make my epilepsy act up but it is certainly hard to watch and a few minutes in it’s making my head and eyes hurt 😭

[@kstojack]

Fellow epileptic and agreed. I finally had to close my eyes.

[@Itiswhatitis638]

@@kstojackI’m glad that you people spoke up 👏👏👏 keep advocating for your selves. There’s nothing more important than hearing the voices of the affected. When people like me speak on such matters it falls on deaf ears so I’m so glad to see you guys speaking up 👏👏👏👏👏 proud of you all 🫶

[@frtzkng]

This case not only highlights the damage this kind of misguidance can inflict onto a person, and how morally corrupt it is for the Church to endorse such practices, but also how terrifying mental illnesses such as psychotic epilepsy can be.

[@ferretyluv]

Exorcisms aren’t performed nearly as often as they used to be thanks to medicine and the church had even said that 99% of the time it’s just mental illness or physical ailments. However, some uneducated people really do believe that their epilepsy is caused by demons. So an exorcism has to be done for them to be convinced to see a doctor.

[@russellsimmons6948]

People need to stop exploiting that poor girl and let her rest.

[@amarie020]

That’s what I’m saying

[@danilutka]

I have hear many people talk about this case but have never heard that the injuries to her knees were done by people forcing her to kneel. I had always heard that they were self inflicted as she would repeat the process herself over and over again.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Yeah, it doesnt get brough up because the story suddenly loses mystical significance when you realize she was being forcibly thrown on to her knees several time per day, and most of the storytellers are just trying to promote the particular view of this all being 100% true and accurate.

[@DebTheDevastator]

Yeah, they want to hide the fact that she was literally in psychosis and terrified of religious iconography. She would not have been able to do anything religious related in that state. If they admit they forced all of this on her, she is no longer a young woman chosen by God to fight demons. She is a mentally ill young woman being abused by her parents and religious leaders because demons.

[@hawlitakerful]

This case is complicated it is as much as parental abuse than religious one. We should all strive for a world where cases like this are a relic of the past

[@CantHandleThisCanYa]

Then you need to include brainwashing children into religion as part of child abuse laws!

[@fourcatsandagarden]

I know a lot of people who don't think exorcisms are a thing that still happens in reality today but no, there are absolutely still 'exorcisms' today - I knew someone who was forced through one by their (thankfully now long ex) boyfriend who wanted to 'cure' them of their depression and bisexuality. He just kidnapped her after school one day and drove her to a church that did them. Between her story and the varied negative church experiences myself and a lot of other people I knew experienced, there was a time when I really wanted to write a version of the exorcist from the point of view of the girl (where everyone else was the 'possessed monster' in the way it was depicted that Reagan was possessed in the movie, but the underlying implication would be that the adults were just monsters to treat the child like that) but I backed away from it because I actually scared and upset myself with what I was writing. Which probably means it was achieving what I set out to do but I didn't have the constitution to go through with finishing it.

[@aWILDsomethingCAME]

im sorry, but protestant "exorcisms" and those approved by the Vatican are vastly different.

[@hannahp1108]

@@aWILDsomethingCAME They're both abuse of mentally ill people, just in different ways

[@aWILDsomethingCAME]

no, they arent. the Vatican spends years determining the validity of claims of possession, and most of the time its determined to be mental illness. you cant exorcise mental illness, so the Church wouldnt send a Priest. @@hannahp1108

[@SombreroPharoah]

I thought exorcism was technically forbidden as a Catholic occult ritual for protestants... ​@@aWILDsomethingCAME

[@doclewis8927]

IF you're NOT doing anything abnormal, then WHY would you need to meet in secrecy and LIE about it??? That seems a bit...unethical and illegal even by the Church's own standards. No? (I mean...right?)

[@ferretyluv]

That’s why the church turned them down and shopped around for a priest to do it in secret.

[@SaikoDeMoN]

Bold of you to assume the catholic church has standards.

[@robinpare5155]

The voices in my head all agree with you Simon and they tell me NOT to get a exorcism...!

[@stormtrooper2425]

Shouldnt be considered an exorcism. Should be considered one of the worst torture and abuse cases.

[@bronhaller]

This needs a follow-up on DtU on exorcisms in general

[@ignitionfrn2223]

Maybe also a Casual Criminalist on that case ?

[@Chris-hx3om]

There's nothing 'unknown' about exorcisms. They are a load of religious bullshit!

[@cas1dor]

Just started the episode so idk if this is mentioned but FUN FACT a baptism is actually a minor rite of exorcism

[@Foxiz]

So that's why I screamed and grabbed the priests clothes and wouldn't let go 😆 ...My kid isn't baptised, at least. Personally I'm old enough to be *born into* Christianity, and had to go out of my way to part from the church at 15. - What happened to consent?

[@addicted2monster88]

​@Foxiz what? I don't think you have to be un baptised to leave a church. You just don't go anymore if it's not what you want. I mean, unless it's your parents' choice to take you, then I guess you just have to wait till you move out if they insist. And in some religions, parents do have their children baptized shortly after birth. But like I said, if it's not your cup of tea when you get older you just stop going.

[@Foxiz]

@@addicted2monster88 Oh, it may be different in different countries... I'm from Sweden, and what I mean with "born into the church" is that I *on paper* was a christian just by being born - I payed taxes to the church, for example. My parents did baptise me when I was a baby, but that wasn't what made me "christian", as I stated above. When I was 15 I was allowed to talk to the church, and sign a paper, and that meant that I no longer was a part of the church/christianity, and no longer had to pay taxes to the church, but it also affects the right to be married and have a funeral ceremony in church. Sweden may act like church and state are separated, but it doesn't show that much in real life. Now adays one doesn't get born into christianity at least.

[@cas1dor]

@@Foxiz wow that is fascinating! I never thought about other countries having made it an official thing like that. Having to pay taxes to a church would absolutely infuriate me

[@Wintermute909]

​@@Foxizdoes Sweden now ban baptisms until the age of consent?

[@ok-iy6pw]

Great video as always, but please reconsider that transition between scenes. A lot of us are watching this in pitch black, and these flashbangs every few seconds are a pain.

[@FancyRPGCanada]

The saddest part of this story was that this young woman was extremely ill and had already tried psychiatric hospital stays and that didn’t work. This was literally her last option to her and she asked for the help. It’s a really horrible situation all around

[@hannahp1108]

Severe mental illness is brutal and takes a lot of long term, repeated treatments. When she got worse again, they should've returned her to a psychiatric hospital

[@jameswatson5807]

@@hannahp1108 Wrong what you call Severe mental illness there is no treatment, it is live long, psychiatric hospital cannot do anything only sedate you. These folks do need exorcism, because of various astral life forms, that have a parasitic nature, attach themselves to feed, this causes. Depending on the life form the high the life form the more chance of mental instability, but most people have lower life forms, where there is no mental instability. The lower lifeforms they just suck your energy, they won't use you body to do crazy things, but the high life forms, they will take your body for a joy ride, stabs people eat their face. They only create chaos that is why when people abuse stimulants, the usage leave you vulnerable to these things, example so you take a high doses of crack cocaine, a few minutes you might see and hear and FEEL a large insect enter the room. Say the size of a cat, mainstream thinking is that it is an hallucination, there is nothing in thinking that, it would be common sense to assume that it is your mind. As hobby I looked deeper into this because I notice there is a patterns, that people don't even question or they just gloss over. My ex girlfriend was a crack addict and when I was with her i never once took drugs, I had no interest but I had a mainstream thinking back then, she said somthing that i never forgot. She said black guys who take crack see spiders and try to pick them off their body, I laughed at this, it as only years later I question what she said, when some guy who takes amps on a regular. He told me when he stays up for days he starts to see spiders and this guy is white, I remember what my ex girlfriend friend told me. I realised I should have question the idea of it, because it makes no sense if it is in our imagination why are so many black guys seeing the same thing. My curiosity has led to to reality there is more to reality than what we know, the astral reality is something that is hidden from us, animals can see this reality, but 99% of humans cannot. For what ever reason 1% of humans can see this astral reality I think I am far to generous with that number, it is far less than that.

[@DriftedDreams]

How you kept a straight face when you said the first bit about Satan's battle against humanity, I'll never know.

[@alfadasfire]

"they had suffered enough" uhh no they didn't? they CAUSED the suffering.

[@post_ian94]

@@eastsideeric2231 demons are not real. Seek help.

[@alfadasfire]

@@eastsideeric2231 You do know demons only exist in video games and other fiction?

[@poonoi1968]

The only "demon" is the religion itself. Anyway, the parents and maybe even the priests of the holy pedo ring death cult was to nobodys surprise acting in "good faith" so they are obviously excused. 🤮

[@Sh4dowgale]

No, it was them. Demons aren't real. I bet you believe in the tooth fairy, too.

[@imustbecrazy5626]

Just like your parents failed you.

[@puredemon5926]

I think Stephanie Harlowe has a deep dive for this case on her channel if anyone's interested. I'm pretty sure it's this case, but it could also be a different one that I'm thinking of. It's pretty interesting and heartbreaking.

[@koreywilliams4570]

They can't apologize with out admitting they were wrong. Doing so would cause more criticism. How many more times were they wrong? When you're dealing with that much money and power, do you honestly think they would admit fault?

[@doclewis8927]

"Didn't look like an epileptic"??? Coming for someone who ISN'T a doctor...and that there is no "look" to an epileptic. I know because one of my aunts was epileptic and lived with it until she passed from cancer. You wouldn't have known that she had anything wrong with her UNTIL she had a seizure. Some seizures were just her staring off into space and others were violent and she needed to be laid on the ground, on her side, with a pillow under her head until it was over. Movies show people "holding" the patient's mouth but DO NOT do that. They could bite you or themselves. My Aunt often bit her tongue but never to the point of needing surgery or sutures.

[@Chris-hx3om]

Same. I had a friend from school. Brilliant guy, was on track to become a doctor, until another friend dragged him out of the deep end of a swimming pool. Apart from being super intelligent, was as normal as anyone.

[@jodyswallow1008]

What horrible parents. If they are religious, there is only one place they will be going.

[@seanfraustus]

You need a whole channel dedicated the craziness of religion and how damaging it has been to not only individuals but the development of the human race

[@nachodrd]

Well, that'd be quite silly. Looking at history with the intention to prove something specific is quite a futile endeavour. Whilst religion has caused bad in the world, there's no denying that it has also caused a lot of good. It is doubtful that our society would have made it to where it has without religion.

[@seanfraustus]

@@nachodrd absolute nonsense. The sheer number of deaths caused by religion never mind the discouragement to seek the betterment of human kind whether through technology or medicine means we're likely greatly delayed in reaching where we are right.

[@nachodrd]

@@seanfraustus that just shows a phenomenal level of ignorance of history in general.

[@seanfraustus]

@@nachodrd one thing life has taught me is never to debate with zealots about religion. You'd argue black was white and white was black to support your chosen cloud inhabiting character. For the rest of us with a balanced view it's pretty clear how much harm religion caused, causes and is causing.

[@nachodrd]

@@seanfraustus I'm an atheist buddy boy. The fact that you assumed I had a horse in this race just because I think you're incorrect shows how little you actually know.

[@ringlhach]

I feel SO bad for whomever edited this one. As a follower of CasCrim and Decoding, Simon MUST have ripped off and gone nuts on this for HOURS.

[@megansslore]

Fun fact: Those of us who have been baptised in accordance with Catholic faith have undergone a 'minor exorcism'

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

Which means?

[@RaymondTracer]

@@Pavlos_Charalambous It means their parents have been brainwashed

[@thatsickkidjaz1749]

​@@Pavlos_Charalambousby being baptised they believe that any evil spirit in a person is exercised

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

@@thatsickkidjaz1749 the evil spirit from a infant...

[@sleepingonions]

@@Pavlos_Charalambousmeans nothing really just a fun fact bro try having some fun maybe?

[@edfreeman4202]

My thoughts seeing the thumbnail: Simon doesn't believe in this stuff, I'll bite. Halfway through the intro: ah, there it is lol

[@michaelmiranda178]

Its on the rise?! How?? And do i understand correctly that thats in the uk and the usa? Its not enough to be ignored, mocked or otherwise failed by our lacking healthcare systems… but we must still fear… this?? That is… heartbreakingly tragic. Oh man

[@archstanton6102]

My guess is the increase is from spiritual and evangelical churches similar to what takes place in Africa.

[@michaelmiranda178]

@@archstanton6102 i guess that makes sense… religions benefit from trying times and always have. Its just… progress in this area has been so very minimal. Pretty much from ice pick in the brain to bullying and condescension/being treated as if we’re all mentally handicapped. To backslide at this point is terrifying

[@archstanton6102]

@michaelmiranda178 On bbc news today the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God has been videoed trying to cadt out demons from a 16 year old boy. They also state the Padtir claims epilepsy is a "spiritual problem". This is a Pentacostal Church.

[@function0077]

Religious freedom shouldn't be unlimited. Religious freedom shouldn't allow one to violate the rights of others. If person A claims deity B told them to physically assault blondes, then will we as a society allow A to physically assault blondes in the name of deity B? Obviously not. Person A is free to believe whatever crazy stuff he believes, but the moment he starts violating the rights of others, others will and should act protect their own rights.

[@Chris-hx3om]

I view 'religious freedom' as being free of religion, and that's the way it should be.

[@addicted2monster88]

That's not what religious freedom means. It just means you have the right to choose what religion to believe in or lack of religion without persecution. It doesn't mean you get to break laws because of your religion.

[@Chris-hx3om]

@@addicted2monster88 Gee, my comment went right over your head, didn't it....

[@nothanks6784]

I was wondering why you made this comment but 13:09 says exactly why. What an insane thing to have written in law.

[@Felicity2121]

🤦🏼‍♀️that’s like her saying you don’t look like a priest🙄

[@Lerrae1908]

I think something important to note here is how powerful the brain is. If someone truly believes they are haunted or possessed, and intensely reinforces that fact for themselves, it might as well become reality. Simply with the power of believing it hard enough, people can cause themselves all sorts of health problems. Hell, there are times where someone has simply believed they have been shot and fallen straight down, dead, only for people to realize a bullet never touched them (literally scared to death). The shock of it just stopped their hearts and bam, down they go. Most of the time they just pass out though, in these cases of shock and assumed injury. There's been a LOT of cases where exorcism IS more or less a form of mental health therapy (albeit sometimes unsafe and strange), because it's basically a placebo. People believe it will help, so it does. What better thing to cure a problem created of human imagination, than with more human imagination? Sometimes reality is a bit stranger than fiction in that regard... But it works. Someone who believes themselves possessed and is hurting themselves because of it who is 'treated properly' by some form of exorcism and proclaimed cured may very well become better and never have that issue again. Honestly, while it's wild, it's a testament to the strength of the human mind and our ability to fabricate our realities from nothing. It may not always be a good thing but we are damn creative and impressive creatures.

[@jameswatson5807]

Possession is real there is more to reality that is hidden from us, there are parasitic life forms that need a human host. You won't believe this but 100s of million of humans are possessed, by these parasites and they have no idea.

[@MrPrussianjester]

I mean "created in God's image" and all that. We are literally creating realities with every book or movie universe we make. We are creation machines attached to life support suits.

[@SugarandSarcasm]

The brain and beliefs can be so damn weird sometimes. Take dreams and dream interpretation. A symbol, a colour, the tiniest object can have several different meanings depending on which psychology book you read, but the thing dreamt about even may be absolute nonsense. People are weird.

[@jinx7797]

A fscinating, but unfortunate case. Took me two listens to this video due to the speed in which Simon was speaking. Anybody else struggle with the speed of this episode?

[@darlordvader]

Jesus christ Simon. Everytime i get fixated on something i find yet *another* of your channels, and when i sub within a day or two you publish a video of what i was fixated on! Teach me your ways oh wise Sorcerer, so i may create quality content and grow my viewership 🙌

[@jorgelotr3752]

So, while most priest turned them away because they acnowledged she was mentally ill, those two not only disregarded set screening policy, they even switched their method from a known safe one to one that ended in her death. Nice job, guys; as far as I know that's not only a secular crime but at least a couple of sins to boot.

[@sunshineonmars-]

This reminds me of my Catholic father warning me not to go to a metal concert in fear that I'd be possessed. In 2022.

[@kstojack]

Odd choice to have flashing lights throughout this, seeing as it's about an epileptic. I had to watch this with my eyes closed.

[@SammyCola]

The new aesthetic for the channel is nice but good god the screen transitions are blindingly bright, and probably isn’t the best for those with epilepsy.

[@ArizonaTengu]

Funny thing, I underwent an exorcism too. The Orthodox Church has it as a standard practice for those being baptized, or converting through Chrismation. Suffice to say, it was a rather uneventful baptism that I underwent, and the service was rather beautiful.

[@michaelkeller5555]

From my understanding, one of the requirements of the diocese (sp?) At least now, is that the person requesting the exorcism has to have proof that both a psychiatrist and a medical doctor have both said they can't explain the symptoms the person is exhibiting. I've watched a few interviews with catholic exorcists and they all say that being a skeptic is an essential part of the job and that only approximately 1 in 5000 people are "approved", that most of the people they see, they end up referring to the requisite medical professionals. I'm not saying anything about how they operated with Anelise, I'm only saying what I've heard is current. (I'm not catholic, I just hyperfocus on demons once in a while 😂)

[@raquellofstedt9713]

That is how it has been explain to me as well.

[@aWILDsomethingCAME]

thats literally it. Protestants have done irreparable damage to society. less than 1% of exorcism cases are even taken up

[@starletveracity7413]

Whilst that might be the official line they give, I wonder how often that is worked around or ignored. It shouldn’t be easy to do so, and I hope it isn’t but I also don’t trust an organisation that has and still does carry out such cruelty towards people.

[@KryssLaBryn]

That might be what they say they'll do, but when my then-boyfriend in the early 90s decided he wanted an exorcism it didn't take much more than driving him to the nearest Catholic Church to talk to a priest. They scheduled it for one evening, had him come by the church, and I guess did it (they made me wait out in the parking lot in my car so I can't confirm what they actually did). Didn't actually change anything or make him better, though, because of course demons aren't real and he wasn't possessed, he was just an asshole.

[@kellybrincks]

Anytime I hear shit like this or how people always try to force their own religious beliefs into other people's lives, I find it impossible to believe it's 2023

[@lordlundin6495]

I choose to see this as a greater problem with humanity. It's not religion that does it, it's humans that do it. Yeah, you've probably heard this plenty, but the way I see this, we might've landed on the moon and created chat bots that can write in human languages, but we're still animals. Most of us are just on auto pilot and don't do much thinking of the self reflecting variety. We're inherently selfish, sniveling at the dirt - some more than others but everyone contemptedly views others who do not follow their way of life. It's not religion, it's culture. God vs buddha, loving dogs vs eating dogs, ssocialism vs capitalism. Sorry it's 4 AM, and I am bored. Stay safe. :D

[@autumnautopsy]

Her name is misspelled in the title.

[@Serenity_yt]

The town also the river is called the Main

[@SianSmith-x1n]

That new intro though! 😍

[@user-HellcatHemi]

I was a devout Atheist & nonbeliever till I lived w an Entity for 4.5 yrs, last April when I moved it followed me & I was chased thru town by Demon's I thought were men around the same time which brought me BACK to God & Jesus Christ.

[@joseayala3300]

I honestly didnt expect this to be your channel as well lol

[@gradyrm237]

"Christopher where does evil come from? Hitchens: Religion" Greatest quote of all time.

[@MrGalactica75]

So there are no evil atheists?

[@PaRan0iIdAnDr0id]

Wasn't this the exorcism that inspired the movie "The Exorcism of Emily Rose"?

[@Nello187]

It was.

[@samhodgson3458]

ye bruv

[@GredelsRage]

​@@Nello187you forget that these precautions didn't go into effect until after the 1962 Vatican Council. Prior to that, exorcism was still very much left to the bishops and vatican after the fact with the priest making ultimate decision. The catholic church never has been a top defender of human rights and a death here and there from the callous application superstitious belief compared to those in the crusades, the witch panic of europe, the roman inquisition and later the Spanish Inquisition, the conquests in the new world, and pretty much every major historic slaughter. This is what happens when folkbelief overcomes rational thought.

[@Nello187]

@@GredelsRage you are correct in that I am indeed referring to modern (post-1962) cases only.

[@mariogeraci8186]

A lot of people are familiar with Emily rose but there was a German made film around the same time called requiem which takes the more epileptic/ mental illness approach and is a much better movie

[@MerriwynMoon]

Aha I remember when my mom talked about wanting to get an exorcism for me because my depression is so bad lmao :')

[@TemporaryINTER135]

"I'm not to blame or at fault, something else is, maybe even YOU" Is a tagline that can go with any religion

[@richardjones1699]

religion has got to go.

[@bluebelle8823]

Faith has its place. I just really hate organised religion. Shinto is probably one of my fave demonstrations of the difference. BTW I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily.

[@kellybrincks]

There is no difference between priests and politicians

[@I_am_Jesus_though]

Every time someone says exorcist i always just think of Scary Movie 2 "Fuck me, fuck me bleeeehhhhghh"

[@The_Hairy_Hermit]

Thanks Peter great video choice i am really interested in this subject.

[@djsonicc]

* Priest naming Hitler and Nero as some of the demons * Hitler in hell: bro wtf? Nero: ...

[@michelleelle4622]

“How the church murdered her”…. Murder and churches NO WAY! The church has many horrible people that commit horrible crimes… loved the intro! 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Asurnasurpal]

I'd like to mention in your comment about the 16th and 17th centuries seeing a "resurgence" of witch trials, that's a bit misleading. While belief in witches was widely accepted throughout most of medieval history (although the catholic church insisted throughout the period that there were no such beings as witches), the sort of mass trials and hysteria we associate with belief in witches was basically entirely novel to the protestant reformation and its aftermath. Most medieval catholics had a much broader, more liberal view of the world than we stereotype them as having today.

[@matthewlawlis2421]

As someone raised Catholic, and an Epileptic, I have trouble with this case. I do see some signs of epilepsy, however, there are things in this case that I have never heard of being connected to the disorder. Possessed or not, however, an exorcism is not typically dangerous practice. At worst, it should normally be no different than a placebo that makes one think they are better. So these priests really screwed up in my mind. The problem shouldn't be using an exorcism, the problem was the treatment by the priests.

[@rachelann9362]

My personal impression is that she was epileptic AND possibly has one of the schizophrenic spectrum disorders.

[@dp6447]

Decoding the Unknown has ruined these for me knowing Simon trying to keep a straight face lmao

[@cedgson91]

Too many flashing images in this video

[@brucegallagher6430]

or a carbon monoxide detector

[@Street.Hermit]

sad, she was such a pretty young lady

[@johnosborne1873]

And people think that nowdays there are no possessions and that Satan skulked away, “We’re way too smart nowadays to believe in Satan” - success. You’ve failed to acknowledge that the prince of darkness even exists.

[@ThisGuyDrives]

Fun fact, an atheist has never been "possessed".

[@amarie020]

I didn’t expect to see this on here but I am actually more pissed than scared. Any one who has covered this case always uses a picture of Anneliese suffering (which I think is a post mortem photograph of her) I don’t know if it’s for clicks or what but I find it to be incredibly disrespectful. Whether she was possessed or not, she was a human being like the rest of us and the fact that her suffering is still being exploited makes me angry. Cmon Simon, you’re better than that.

[@dtiebel9794]

Quiet crybaby.

[@amarie020]

@@dtiebel9794 not a crybaby, just stating facts

[@theswiv]

"What the hell was in the drinking water...." 👏👏👏

[@bluebelle8823]

We all need a laugh sometimes and let's be honest it's the delivery.

[@padawanmage71]

I wonder what the ratio is for exorcisms performed on women compared to men?

[@AldrickExGladius]

Stories like these make me proud to be smart enough to be an atheist.

[@GrievousReborn]

Oh look a toxic internet atheist who makes all atheists look like complete assholes

[@lordlundin6495]

I've met a lot of dumb ass atheists and a lot of very smart religious people. Your comment is just silly and severely lacks cultural understanding. Stop acting like an edgy teen. Unless you want to give a take on how let's say how Philipino people are dumber than swedish (my own ethnicity) people, since they're more religious, or hell compare Canada to the Middle East for all I care. You could, but then you're doing some classical racism. It's fine if you do, but I bet the idea probably makes you uncomfortable. Let's put the cognetive dissidence to rest (if it exists) before we talk about intelectual capacity.

[@AldrickExGladius]

@@cancermcaids7688 no ones being smug, but I'll continue to be nice and tell you to just move the fuck along

[@SimonDerDeineMamaNimmt]

The audio recordings are actually accessible on youtube if you want to listen to them.

[@j-bwatz]

This story is extremly sad and extremly funny at the same thime 😅

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

Tragic

[@GrievousReborn]

I do not envy that guy who was a defense lawyer for the Nuremberg trials

[@Gamer1990100]

Being how new mental health research is compared to the rest of medical research.

[@metalhedp8ntbll]

Is your lock plate and latches in the shape of a cross a happy accident or intentional?

[@TheKrispyfort]

Conversion disorder can result in seizures. They're not fun

[@Itiswhatitis638]

… this happened during our parent’s lifetimes.. 😞

[@ashb7846]

Gotta say, as someone with a small history of psychosis, if someone with a history of some type of psychosis comes up and says, “I’m not mentally ill, I’m possessed by a demon and need it to be exorcised,” my first thought would be, “That sounds exactly like what a mentally ill person would say” 🤔

[@daxleone]

If I ever need an exorcism, I want Fact Boi to perform it!!!

[@Chris-hx3om]

If you want an exorcism I can give you one in a few words. "To excise your demons, stop reading the bible, and stop talking to an imaginary friend in the sky."

[@daxleone]

@@Chris-hx3om 😂😂🤣🤣😂 I still want Fact Boi 😂😂🤣🤣

[@Chris-hx3om]

@@daxleone That's fair....

[@starletveracity7413]

In Simon’s southern preacher voice for bonus entertainment!

[@daxleone]

@@starletveracity7413 I love it!!! 😂🤣

[@lazytommy0]

We see only the demons we want to see, the ones we accept. Mostly these are of our own making.

[@katiebonser9712]

The only demons Anelise's parents had was neglect and stupidity.

[@johanahonen8627]

religion is not rational, and this is what it can lead to. its good to remember when talking to "normal" religious people.

[@murrayscott9546]

All things bright and beautiful.

[@indica8510]

The baptism procedure was correct the baby as a platchet but add sulphur and iron so that is higher then the wind rotation of a swamp so people aren’t effected by the evil eye or people that dose Syrian rue for sorcery reasons.

[@TG-hp8og]

The ignorance... And sorry to say , it STILL happens. Not so much ,tho,thankfully . People say nature are brutal. But human is way worse ,always have been. Today,one hit/pop/slap/inflict pain on kids , and call it "parenting". Like consequenses requier the parents to be mean. Thats still a shameful past a lot of people still keep alive . The lazy,ignorant way of parenting. We should know better by now, the science and all the information , and proves are obvious and many. But STILL, some people defend lifting a hand towards a child.

[@namelesscare7982]

Avoid all modern medical treatments and seek solutions on religious methods that were implemented in the medieval ages. This is the result of religious extremism. Such a tragic end for her.

[@coeal2680]

"do it in complete secrecy" No shit, cuz even by the CHURCHES standards, what you are about to do is illegal

[@annisemichell9933]

Her name is creepily similar to mine Annise Michell and and anelise Michele literally the only difference in pronunciation in the el sound

[@katashworth41]

There’s a brilliant film inspired this called Requiem.

[@pensador6953]

Hold up one of the demons was Hitler? And the other was Nero? ok, that was bullshit.

[@Meatsweats_o_O]

2:36 like what the actual hell is that bullshit?

[@the-chillian]

Having attended at least 2 exorcisms carried out by an Orthodox priest -- not to mention the exorcisms that are (believe it or not) included in the regular baptism rite -- the fact that the RC church's exorcism ritual hasn't changed since the 17th century isn't especially remarkable. Orthodoxy is quite good at conveying the impression of unchanging, unbroken tradition. This is, in reality, far from true, but I know of no analysis suggesting that its exorcism rite has changed significantly in centuries. There's no elaborate procedure for requesting permission to perform an exorcism. The priest can simply do it on his own, usually at the request of the family or even the person themselves. It's not usually so much outright possession that's the problem, just disturbances a person believes are due to demonic activity. There was, by the way, nothing dramatic during these exorcisms. There usually isn't. Go figure.

[@thelastpilot4582]

The Church has more blood on its hands than any of the armies.

[@doclewis8927]

BS. The guy literally said that she didn't "look epileptic" so I'm pretty sure that he would've said that she didn't look like she "psychological issues" either.

[@pajserlatacchini9400]

Bro the guy said one of the demons was Hitler, looks like he needs mental help as well as she did...

[@NatiSaednejad]

'Such an absolute banger" 😂😂😂😂

[@DanteTheAbyssalBeing]

Imagine believing in any of this shite as an adult with easy access to the biggest collection of human knowledge in history.

[@JustArtsCreations]

Sounds about right.