Intrigue in Copenhagen: A Tale of High-Stakes Corporate Espionage

When Chinese tech giant Huawei learned it was set to lose a $200 million contract, a run-of-the-mill equipment deal spiraled into a saga of hidden microphones, drone encounters and covert surveillance, according to investigators for a Danish telecoms firm. Bloomberg reporters crisscrossed Copenhagen for the tale of TDC’s 5G showdown, in which technology, business and national security collide.
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[@business]

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[@Frivals]

You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?

[@robertgittings8662]

*Oh USA Bloomberg :)* after you kidnapped their CEO's daughter on false charge that is not enough for you (then "huge scoop" on the same company spy on the US network turn out to be fabricated by you) apparently these are still not enough for you. Fear of losing hegemony is REAL

[@oishibeats5476]

Bloomberg should do one of CIA, it got proven they used Denmark for several decades to spionage on Europe, It was in closed doors here in denmark and no charges where raised against CIA. But i guess its better to point fingers at the bad guys. CIA had used denmark for 30+ years to spy on Europe VIA Denmark, that is fact even if America tries to cover it up. Also did you mention TDC went bankrupt in Denmark ? Propaganda always prevails over the truth. And at the forefront of it all is Capitalist ready to profit. And i can tell you who scraped the cake here, American capital did sure we can follow the money to China but in reality it ended up in America. Total monopoly of Internet provided by America controlled by America, just like all foreign affairs in the West and just like "Nato"

[@Yotrek]

This need to be a whole series. Peeling back the layers of modern day espionage in business and government.

[@watsappenin2865]

Facts why do I find these videos so so interesting. Should make more longer videos this is crazy

[@business]

Many more stories like this coming soon. Stay tuned.

[@ethankishi4228]

@@watsappenin2865look up American Greed if you haven’t watched those episodes. It’s crazy the length people will go through with scams

[@forloop7713]

Yes please

[@newchannel1220]

MOVIE

[@andreasottohansen7338]

Huawei engaging in Espionage to secure a contract is hilarious, cause in attempting it, they prove exactly why they aren't wanted in the first place.

[@lolnein7216]

I know that this stuff even happens within Germany. DTAG and SAP somehow win suspiciously many contracts by a small margin ;)

[@carlos7mh]

Saying it as if it’s the only company doing this

[@andreasottohansen7338]

@@carlos7mh i am really not, because that would be wrong. I am calling out Huawei here specifically, because Huawei not only did the spying, but have done so after being not selected for a bid because of their spying

[@Funkoh]

@@carlos7mh sure other companies may commit espionage but ultimately it was Huawei which took it to another level by a long shot and was caught in the act

[@definitelynotblitzcrank5566]

They have likely gained a lot of ground through espionage attempts that were successful in the past.

[@hux0rz]

Jason Lan acted in compliance with all applicable laws... which is why he booked a 1 way ticket straight back to China

[@Zetunez]

Wild, the dude is almost completely scrubbed from the net, besides this story being associated to him from Bloomberg.

[@davidmin3583]

It's as if a Chinese national deciding to live in China after working abroad is really suspicious

[@SoCalFreelance]

What about Goldstein? HE was the inside threat actor working for China. Did Goldstein have connections to israeli intelligence? israel is currently in full charm offensive with China and probably willing to do anything to curry favor with them.

[@valmarsiglia]

He bought his one-way ticket in full compliance with all applicable laws. 😆

[@acmelka]

Remember the Japanese panic of the 1990's ... This isn't like that.

[@maxsmith8196]

The weirdest thing to me about this video, as a danish person, is that there are several buildings with over 15 floors relevant to this story.

[@jorgerivotti9858]

ahaha

[@shumstra]

I have, by chance, actually been to a meeting in one of Plesner's top floor conference rooms once, and it did indeed feel like a very non-Danish place to be in. (Great view though!)

[@peterknutsen3070]

Yup.

[@Bubajumba]

Can look across the whole country from the top

[@michaelstone3069]

It's an upright longhouse

[@ericpaulgoldie]

Australia has banned Huawei from taking contracts for infrastructure, due to similar security concerns

[@saxoleeskibye3923]

Pretty sure EU has done that too after cases in Poland, Denmark and several other countries like the one in the video.

[@raintreerefuge4679]

If only Chinese companies weren't corruption inducing parasites.

[@sugandesenuds6663]

the UK banned huawei hardware in critical infrastructure, like 25% of their 5G network needs to be swapped out.

[@Frivals]

You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?

[@njiomonansichristianfreder6374]

Legitimately❗️

[@BroadConcept]

The fact that Europe still deals with the company shows how asleep at the wheel they are about their future, just like what happened with Russian gas.

[@callapeony4784]

Something similar involving Huawei also happened in Indonesia. The minister of communication and information was arrested for corruption alongside at least one Huawei senior personnel.

[@jojoanggono3229]

Over the years Huawei has managed to edge out Nokia and Ericson as telco infra provider in Indonesia. What happened in Denmark surely was not an isolated case.

[@Frivals]

You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?

[@jepulis6674]

@@jojoanggono3229 Nokia was so happy to do business in China. Did not realize their tech was to be stolen and rebranded.

[@krishnar1182]

I'm somewhat shocked that Denmark didn't prosecute Lan or Goldstein.

[@johnjohnson-ss4vu]

that would be anti-semitic

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

Oy vey

[@Keithjustkeithwastaken]

then you are not very bright

[@gts2550]

Because none of those things is a crime. Private law cases at best.

[@krishnar1182]

@@gts2550 i can’t speak to Danish law but in the US it would be. A bid amount is a trade secret and the conduct of Lan & Goldstein would have constituted violations of the Economic Espionage Act in the U.S.

[@fartywood3917]

If they are doing this to a mobile operator, imagine the amount espionage going on in Huaweis competitors.

[@emom358]

Seriously, this should be a series.

[@MichaelGalt]

Far more interesting than I anticipated. Really revealing. A 200€ million deal... can really motivate malevolent actions.

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

It probably wasn’t even about the money. They want control over telecommunications networks. Huawei would probably even take the contract at a loss, but then it would be too obvious

[@tomclancy5147]

To me it seems that this was about more than money, they wanted to be part of that network.. they would happily have made a loss on it

[@zarathustra498]

200 million is not that much money considering that net profit would be only a fraction of that amount. A normal company wouldn't waste massive resources for spy operation like this. It is more about control and indirect benefits

[@Gdisawesome1]

More about data control then making a profit I believe

[@FkSeditiousChristofascists]

the motivation was being able to snoop on all of the activity taking place over the 5G network...

[@nickthequick]

You trust any large Chinese corporation at your own peril.

[@undefined69695]

And now they want to sell ev in America LOL

[@HKim0072]

Large? Any Chinese company. All Chinese companies have cooperate with spying.

[@SLO722]

You do know you are saying this while the Americans are screwing you from behind, right?

[@mikeboate208]

don't be scared ,little boy .

[@louisd6410]

Meanwhile US gov spies unimpededly spying on allies citizens and gov

[@MarioGoatse]

Wow what an incredibly informative and interesting video. When you can’t even trust your own security team, you know you’re in DEEP!

[@patrik5123]

It's amazing that Huawei isn't banned in all of the western world.

[@bzdtemp]

Well, by that standard it is questionable why anyone does business with US companies. Look up ECHELON and the EU for some more background.

[@patrik5123]

​@@bzdtemp I know about Echelon. Plenty. However there is one fundamental difference; The US has a society based on (at least some) democratic principles. China does not.

[@bzdtemp]

@@patrik5123 Agree. Only for those European companies where US espionage allowed US companies to win contracts and more, it likely didn't make a difference who cheated them. Now the big picture is something else, which should of course not be ignored and it isn't.

[@gilgameshur5366]

Yeah. Lets drug Them With mcd and cola

[@StanleyKubick1]

@@patrik5123 so they should be allowed to monitor citizens of sovereign allied countries?

[@optimize.]

You could make an entire series about modern corporate espionage: the China Chronicles

[@AuxiliaryPanther]

I wrote a paper for college about engineering ethics in China, and Chinese companies suffer from IP theft and the likes from other Chinese conpanies more than any other country. It's the thing to do there.

[@Nightman-eb8mj]

Why just China, you think the CIA has no access to your data? All of the modern chips have a backdoor access to them. And the current world government hates you more than China does.

[@Frivals]

You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?

[@FkSeditiousChristofascists]

starting back when they stole hydrogen bomb and neutron bomb tech from the U.S,

[@sharpasacueball]

​@@AuxiliaryPantherDoesn't surprise me one bit

[@theofficialstig]

I would have never expected someone with the name "goldstein" to sell out for money

[@VinnyDeIgado]

Thanks for getting someone with a Chinese accent to read Huawei’s statement which is in English. It really added to the immersion

[@apoch4092]

Wow Espionage is still a serious business.

[@lwwells]

always has been

[@novusregnum]

Wow, this was an incredible video, with even more incredible harrowing findings. I'm shocked

[@MultiSciGeek]

I mean if this isn't a wake up call to stay away from Chinese firms, the idk what is.

[@dsadsadsadsadsa177]

What happened to all of the 20+ minute episodes you guys used to release on topics like this? 8 minutes feel so hilariously short now

[@eustab.anas-mann9510]

This. Also as if Intel and Google are any better than Huawei LOL

[@undefined69695]

They are better, purely motivated by money which is predictable instead of doing the bidding of an adversarial government.

[@davidmin3583]

Because they don't have enough material to support this high accusation. It's literally two bloomberg journalists having a chat about allegations from anonymous sources.

[@MayorSom]

@@undefined69695 surely you’re gullible enough to believe that they won’t succumb to state demand and open 🚪 😂😂

[@3s0t3r1c]

@@eustab.anas-mann9510 LOL, yes they are better. There is no place for chinese high tech in EU or US.

[@marcusthelegend]

To see this happening in your own backyard is crazy... Sure I live pretty far away on Bornholm, and even with all the things happening on and around this tiny island is a lot, seeing it in mainland Denmark kinda terrifies me...

[@icecube3645]

This is a disinformation and smear campaign, don't believe everything on the internet

[@Lukasaske]

Watching this on my Huawei phone added yet another layer of paranoia.

[@Tehrawrzorz]

I couldn't see it on my Huawei phone. I only came across it on my pc.

[@frederikmunkgaard6995]

Great story, many more people should know about..

[@josephkremer8935]

Bravo. Fantastic journalism.

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

You guys should do the downfall of Norton in canada... when their college was sold, they found the entire building was bugged

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Citation needed.

[@Saltience]

Isn’t it called Nortel?

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

@@Saltience maybe. It's quite far back in my memory

[@udirt]

would make more sense if it was around telco industry. nortel were snobs though, which also cost them a lot. and i'm afraid they had Carly Fiorana syndrome even before any china syndrome. @@invertedv12powerhouse77

[@krsubramanian6637]

I am so glad Indian government blacklisted Tiktok and Huawei. This is scary !

[@papagen00]

well india and china never got along anyway.

[@its1374]

Well, india just robbed xiaomi. So no one's want to invest in India.

[@FUCKaNIGGAcalledYou]

If this is in Denmark imagine what they are doing in Germany or other larger countries. I'm astonished by the lack of work action

[@davidmin3583]

Last I recall, it was the Americans who listened in on Merkle's phone

[@josefxvi4702]

Don’t try and shift the focus David. We’re dealing with one regime at a time.

[@Ksoism]

Lack of public knowledge isn't lack of action. I'm pretty sure that every hardware supplied by Huawei had been investigated thoroughly, although it is almost impossible to check everything for backdoors. Probably they are being live cycle-exchanged to something else early on their life cycle.

[@wallypally]

@@davidmin3583the reason why they’re so up about this cause they’re asian

[@work204]

​@@davidmin3583The problem is... U.S. doesn't go usurping other people's land. China is an aggressor. An uncouth bully. If not kept in check China wouldn't stop at any limit to go into rampant expansionism and genocide. If people had to choose between 2 Devils... China still wouldn't be chosen that's how bad it is.

[@skiandcomment]

I wonder why the Chinese feel safe doing these crimes everywhere they go? Maybe because there aren’t repercussions?

[@adisproject]

Everyone does espionage. Americans destroyed Renault Contracts thanks to their spying.

[@dr6377]

Why would they fear repercussions? They are backed and encouraged by the CCP. There werent any actual repercussions in this case aswell, except Huawei losing the deal (which they wouldve lost anyway)

[@Itssmial_Ova]

Because the world is now addicted to cheap Chinese goods. All apart of the plan.

[@BOSNAMAGDURLARI]

@@Itssmial_Ovawhy china was allowed to be chosen not somwhere else india or indonesia but not near Türkiye 🇹🇷 ? Why china

[@Itssmial_Ova]

@@BOSNAMAGDURLARI It's happening today lol

[@SARUJAN5]

A movie should be made about this.

[@redroyce4590]

Yup no punishment, classic reality

[@tomo1168]

and the chinase gov. openly blackmailed the danish without consequence.

[@davidmin3583]

It's almost as if there's no enough reliable evidence to support a court case

[@martinrotvig]

@@davidmin3583no, there are too many Danish and European companies with subsidiaries in China. Any idiot knows that’s the reason, well except you 😂

[@johnsamuel1999]

They should make a movie or tv series on it

[@jaysparc]

How is Huawei not banned from bidding on anything after this?

[@JonasPolsky]

wow the drone spying is the opening from William Gibson's "The Peripheral." crazy

[@elafmohammed7329]

Turns out my 70yo librarian was a corporate espionage in her prime 😂

[@singinglion82]

Fascinating stuff

[@toadfaceass]

Goldstein.... every single time.

[@dr6377]

Don't you dare to see a pattern here

[@dr6377]

@@Adi-bo5do Goldstein is not a typical German name. Its a surname of Yiddish origin (which happens to contain germanic words because of historic reasons, you can look it up). Turning a blind eye to behavioural patterns of certain cultural and social groups, just to keep your perceived moral superiority is decadent and dense.

[@siddharthjain911]

insane so well made

[@sexntuna]

This should be a 4 series Netflix show

[@martinebon4333]

Why am I not surprised.

[@herres050]

Very interesting

[@michelecesaro3911]

It has happened the same in italy...and i bealive also elsewhere

[@MrWaheedulHaque]

And now the Temu app is doing the same

[@LouisBackover]

This!!! 👆

[@HKim0072]

And Tiktok.

[@hamtsammich]

Is it just me, or does this loop the beat to "The Eyeball Kid" by Tom Waits at points?

[@Atipat12]

AWESOME 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@KevinDurantEasy]

Wtf are these Chinese companies doing. I saw one similar case in the US.

[@Zero11_ss]

Many people have been warning for years but nobody wants to listen until its too late.

[@vonFisch]

China is a communist dictatorship and all chinese companies are required by law to colaborate with chinese goverment. Even if they (chinese companies, CEOs) don't want to, they have to. That's why no one should ever trust a chinese company

[@watsappenin2865]

Elon musk worlds richest man and still builds as state of the art tesla giga factory in china. Soon china will be cranking out tesla models with a slightly different badge

[@sebastians7670]

great

[@explodingmonad4535]

2:58 that some kind of Amiga home computer?!

[@Anolaana]

Sounds like a plot from the Borgen TV show!

[@badasskurt]

Random question: where have I heard that song that starts at around the 2:00 min mark? Is it a video game?

[@sblbb929]

I don't know the specific song. But the instrument is a 'Handpan' or 'steel drum' Most melodies on this instrument sound extremly similair to me

[@Petrikohr]

2:02 Off topic, but the background music here reminds me of Factorio's soundtrack

[@polaris911]

what is TDC? They never actually say what TDC is in the video.

[@tylerorr3851]

Did anyone notice the factrio music at 2:18?

[@ArabianKnight63]

Take out a warrant for both Goldstein and jason, what they did guarrantees yrs in prison

[@martinrotvig]

Sure, we could do that, if we want to tank our own economy completely. It’s like when the US violates our airspace, or refuses to pay rent for their military bases as promised, or clean up their nuclear waste, we can complain a little, but if we try to get justice, we’ll be beaten to the ground economically. You have to pick your battles, at least if you want to win overall.

[@sblbb929]

Goldstein has dual citizenship so he can just retire to the beaches of Tel-aviv

[@Fj8282haha]

Hauwai is not a company close to state, every company is a state company if the supreme leader wants it in a second. 😂

[@Frivals]

You are speaking about the espionage that USA is going 24h/7days?

[@lappin6482]

Crazy 😮 movie time i think

[@KG-jx2zl]

2:17 is this the factorio musik??

[@L1feHasN0Mean1ng]

why does old mate in the thumbnail look like he is standing at the GE

[@carlos7mh]

Chinese corporations engaging in espionage is little league stuff. They should learn from American corporations and topple entire governments for profit

[@MrWaheedulHaque]

Nice

[@AP-do6sv]

Feeling nervous with a bunch of Chinese phones in my hand

[@Luca-tw9fk]

why it look like she standing at the GE in the thumbnail?

[@seattlebeard]

Are there any large Chinese companies not closely connected to the central government?

[@jesper.ordrup]

Even more crazy that he now is working in Telenor (another danish telecom)

[@Pants69]

Telenor is Norwegian

[@ganstabreakincity]

Care the bad acts of anyone but specially care the bad acts of an authoritarian regime.

[@lordtherapeutics]

It wasn’t clever to leave the paperwork open on the desks overnight was it?

[@kirstinetermansen]

Piracy og right to work

[@dogshake]

It was Amir, he had an in with Copenhagen!

[@kaare1992]

And people don't think Tencent or Alibaba spies on the outside world LOL

[@Canleaf08]

Remember kids, switch off your Alexas and leave your boardrooms tidy, work desks without notes... If you can't, close the window blinds and switch off the light.

[@nakulsridhar6924]

They way the voice when you read the Huawei letter at last. You changed the voice to a Chinese lady reading English 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexandrossideris4790]

Big Tech companies in the US are not collaborating with NSA, CIA, ?

[@Qmpz85]

Goldstein? You don't say.

[@evwhizz]

Holy cow.... And I wanted to buy huawei phone!

[@JoelReid]

Possible movie?

[@touchofgrey5372]

Dov Goldstein: say no more! ! !🤣🤣🤣

[@ft6637]

ah, yes.... watching this on a Huawei smartphone 🙈😂😂

[@jamespark4268]

You shouldn't do anything with Chinese...period.

[@vedantdighe4278]

intersting

[@KirstineTermansen-cq9tk]

I was piracy fortune too

[@ahsanmohammed1]

Too short. Hardly any details explanations.

[@mattykeys]

this thumbnail looks like the grand exchange

[@drewdennis1085]

Wes Anderson vibes

[@strainddgrayvee]

6:16 he returned to china 😅😂😂

[@SonaliGurpur]

😮

[@lil10dot]

ok fed, as if am*rican corporations don't regularly do espionage

[@Look_What_You_Did]

They don't.

[@user-ln5pi6zp2t]

😂😂😂did they look under their beds to find Chinese spies

[@JesperKrogSlot]

Dov Goldstein now works for Telenor.....

[@daniellovestodance]

This will be a great Netflix movie

[@designedbybold]

Goldstein? Backstabbing? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@aroundandround]

Worth asking if it’s a bug or a feature for Huawei to spy and figure out Ericsson’s bid before the decision.

[@mikeboate208]

Ericsson’s spies were doing what ?

[@CoverCode]

7:05 ah yes indeed you do Huawei -_-

[@vuufke4327]

Gotta respect the hustle tho

[@anandvenkatraman8983]

Facts

[@akamal92]

No

[@vuufke4327]

@@akamal92 you don't get the grindset homes

[@Atipat12]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jackmcinerney1030]

More annoying than the espionage is the fact nobody can say Huawei correctly

[@spymaster250]

This is the comment about the RuneScape ge thumbnail

[@geneawisea2708]

It’s all about “Unrestricted Warfare”

[@rm783]

Omg

[@shivmohan99681]

Why Chinese are doing espionage everywhere?

[@HKim0072]

All Chinese companies have obligations to the CCP and thus the PLA. It’s written into their national security law.

[@NVIDIAGeekify]

Don't be so gullible, it's not just China. US knows more than China can even imagine

[@FkSeditiousChristofascists]

that is the only thing they have.