Introducing the NAUTILUS AT Music Workstation

[@Echochamber79]

I just bought a Korg Kronos 2 88 key. Still glad I did, an 8 year old keyboard that can do much more than their upgraded new release.

[@miekwavesoundlab]

Curious what Kronos 2 vs Natalus differences

[@Jason75913]

@@miekwavesoundlab better UI on the Kronos for starters. Sound-wise, the Nautilus sounds cleaner, but otherwise as good. Nautilus mostly lacks the Karma engine and its sequencer is simpler.

[@gabrielmoore6099]

@@miekwavesoundlab i think people are scared to do comparisons lol, I hav hardly find any videos about it

[@procta2343]

@@gabrielmoore6099 yeah i noticed this too, This looks like an upgrade to the Krome, What i didn't get is why Korg launched it with out the after touch feature in the 1st place. Specially the price it was when it came out, and when you compare it to other hardware.

[@japaneseost2137]

NAUTILUS SPDIF will come out next year.

[@X-Lightz]

🤣🤣🤣 Best comment!

[@kevinsage1047]

Showing Jordan playing a Nautilus is like asking him to demo a Toyota Corolla after getting out of his Rolls Royce (Kronos)

[@1881Gordon]

Nice Analogy 😊.

[@gabrielirlanda]

Not quite, Nautilus has the same keybed and sounds of Kronos.

[@LaidbackSounds]

he endorses everything lol

[@mrchow3233]

We need a Korg Kronos replacement. This isn’t the new flagship.

[@elvinlewis4233]

New Kronos!

[@doordedeur]

The Nautilus isn't replacement for the Kronos, but a cheaper alternative with cheaper hardware. Just like the Yamaha MoDX relates to the Montage.

[@mrchow3233]

@@doordedeur Yes, I know that. That is why I am saying we need a Kronos replacement. A new flagship. We already know about the Nautlius, and all that was added with this, is aftertouch.

[@TokyoScarab]

​@@doordedeurThe Nautilus is already 2 years old and is effectively a reduced Kronos and the Kronos came out in 2011! We need something new! A workstation for the modem age or at least this decade lol

[@amitev]

​@@doordedeurI wouldn't call the new AT version cheaper.

[@kerzwhile]

Kinda surprised this wasn't a feature from the start. Hope your dropped the price of the reg. Nautalis and kept the pricing for the AT. 🤔

[@Wagoo]

Channel aftertouch should be _standard_ on every synth today. It's such an easy to implement feature, just needing a monophonic ribbon incorporated into the keybed design. Synths at the premium level should be providing _polyphonic_ aftertouch these days. Why on Earth would bog standard channel aftertouch ever be left off a keybed these days?

[@Jason75913]

They want you to buy the flagship if you want that. I don't think that strategy is ever going away, or it could have since last century.

[@Wagoo]

It should be the flagship for polyphonic-aftertouch, but the lower level cheaper ones all have at least channel-aftertouch

[@Wagoo]

@@dvamateur there is a third option. Fatar now make polyphonic-aftertouch keybeds.. you can find it in the Waldorf Iridium (4 octave) or Waldorf Quantum mk2 (5 octave).. and it'll be in the forthcoming Aodyo Anyma Omega I would think Korg should be able to develop their own, though. Yamaha managed it nearly 50 years ago..

[@Jason75913]

@@Wagoo I'm thinking that the one way to get a lot more keyboardists into aftertouch (because they would hate to have to be careful to not accidentally trigger it when undesired) is to have a lower-tier keyboard implement it with a toggle switch next to the mod wheel to enable it (off by default). So keyboardists pick up a new model as usual, then discover aftertouch with the toggle button. Most will hate it at first, but given enough time and boredom during practice and rehearsals, they start learning to adjust their playing to it and learning to use it to add to their expressiveness, then word will spread among them to turn it on and learn to use it, baiting many into it and thus creating demand for it in the non-flagship models. Poly can be reserved for the flagship. At this point, I think we are stuck with Behringer, Akai, or Native Instruments potentially trying to pull this off if they ever try dipping into the lower tier rompler market. The Akai keybaord has aftertouch and is priced to compete with Krome, Fantom-06, and MODX. Man, I can't wait for Native Instruments to bust out a Kontakt keyboard to compete with the MPC Key and the popular models from Roland, Yamaha, and Korg. They already make great hardware controllers. They could even try and make minikey synths akin to JD-Xi, Native's M32 has the best keybed of any mini controller (though it lacks aftertouch). All of their controllers, like many other pro audio products, run ARM SoCs, so they are already involved with programming for ARM mobile CPUs, which is probably fundamental to getting a good working design for their own rompler keyboard. Maschine+ is their first foray into a standalone unit. I think a Kontakt keyboard or so is the next logical step.

[@Wagoo]

@@dvamateur I mean by that token, Korg is a much bigger company than Fatar is. If they bring out a new OASYS/Kronos then hopefully they include a poly-at keybed. It's not some exotic new technology, it's just something missing from a lot of flagship synths. But channel-at is such a simplistic system, that it simply should be a feature on every keybed already I'm not sure if Roland do actually spin up their own chips anymore, because the chip they use in everything (BMC, newer version of the ESC2) is a quad core ARM based processor.. so they would need quite an advanced chip fab node with a small nanometer size to be able to spin it up with a reasonable amount of performance. I suspect those are made by a partner like Toshiba and then labelled Roland But I'm not against Korg's usage of intel boards (or Raspberry Pi ARM boards in wavestate/opsix/modwave) as it means replacements are available on the market easily should they ever need to be swapped years down the line, increasing the longevity of the hardware

[@vadimmartynyuk]

Next Korg Nautilus USB

[@Jason75913]

😂😂

[@Kinnor.Home.Studios]

After that, Nautilus WTF (I mean With The Faders)😅

[@jfn467]

So the previous Nautilus, the Kronos replacement, did not have AT, and now years after its release, they add Channel Pressure... Great job Korg, almost just as great as the new SE machines... Have they lost their effing minds over there in Japan???

[@Talia.777]

Yeah probably 😕😕

[@Jason75913]

Stingy as heck edit: 2 months later, Yamaha will now continue kicking Korg's rear with the new Montage M

[@ErraticFaith]

Our economy is not what it was in Asia. Much as with the rest of the world. If you want this to change - get rid of that ridiculous fool in your big white building. American economy > directly effects everyone else. If you haven't gathered by now the worlds events are both linked and down to exactly the people former President Trump told you are responsible. It's got little to do with the traditional party politics you think and all about 'order' change in the world. Contrary to your age old Democrats and their dislikes - Japanese and Chinese (I am the latter) are both capable of reading and we read your words online here all the time. No minds are lost. It's just a far bigger issue than you think. Ukraine? Afghanistan? It's barely the start. You want things like they made them long ago. Then fix the damn politics. We'll make you the toys when it's economically feasible without shortcuts!

[@1881Gordon]

"Have they lost their effing minds over there in Japan???" - Apparently so.... Or at least in the Korg Factory they have.

[@squeakD]

Strange to essentially release an identical model with just the addition of aftertouch. Aftertouch has been around for several decades now, and it’s not expensive hardware to build into a keyboard. Go look at the price difference at Sweetwater between the two models, then ask yourself if it’s worth paying that just to get aftertouch.

[@Jason75913]

Aftertouch + Kronos chassis/looks. But the price increase is absurd.

[@raul0ca]

It's Korg. I got an OG Opsix and now there's a SE and upcoming desktop Mk2 coming out

[@AlavonMajor]

Can we get a Studio version with better daw integration..and with a keybed that doesn’t have squeaky springs? Thanks Korg🤓

[@troublesomecorsair]

Yamaha came out with the Montage, and then the MODX was the lesser version, right? same as Korg's Nautilus paired down from the Kronos Supposed to cut corners, take away controls and throw out the aftertouch for a more affordable version... but now it's like there's an awkward in between...

[@Talia.777]

Exactly 😕

[@gabrielegelfofx]

C'mon...release the Oasys II

[@doordedeur]

Why not aftertouch on the 73? That's the most interesting Naultilus.

[@jimmysalou]

Totally agree

[@jefersonbrito_16]

I think they are preparing a 76 key AT or even with Poly AT option.

[@Kinnor.Home.Studios]

But looks like a boat from the rear panel view.

[@judsonchristudas]

Adding AT and relaunching as a new model is a no brainer. I'm a Korg Kronos 2 owner.

[@judsonchristudas]

Dear Korg, Please correct your website that's it's not a Korg Kronos replacement

[@salmonella4u]

The Nautilus is like Honda discontinuing the Accord, but then, the Civic would be the new flagship! That wouldn't be right, would it! We want the Kronos back! Listen to everyone. The Kronos is the best keyboard out there. After it's introduction, it still can't be beat by any other competitor! It's still in huge demand and is all some of us want for our studios and live performances. I wonder what Jordan thinks about the change?! 🤔😏

[@Amanet13]

That’s supposed to be in the first version since beginning

[@02chivas]

Qué hermoso instrumento! Lo mejor de Korg

[@haripujariflute]

Expressive osmose have good key bed gestures incredible in 2023 in:, only one effect After touch in Nautilus AT ? or Poly After touch or any more effects in Nautilus to better explore

[@napiano-cz]

Super workstation

[@raul0ca]

I don't understand the dislikes. The pianos are so good and the keybed is surprisingly nice too.

[@ghavinga]

Channel aftertouch I presume? Not poly-aftertouch?

[@Jason75913]

Of course, it is a rompler flagship afterall

[@gigimingarini]

After Touch....WWWOOOWWW

[@TonyTonsy]

waiting the nautilus mp4 😂

[@Phattouch]

yamaha montage m8x is out, where's yours korg I'm waiting

[@hermesmercury]

Wow, 40 years old innovation! 😂

[@1881Gordon]

Yeah. Being sold here as something 'New' and 'Expressively Game Changing'.. . Its been around for 4 decades FFS 🤣.

[@kylejohnson779]

After touch isn’t what the Nautilus was missing. This isn’t a Kronos replacement.

[@Bigricky06]

So no freaking faders to control layers of sounds. Thank you Korg or whatever genius at korg was thinking.

[@Jason75913]

I think they need new devs, or the guy supervising the devs needs to be replaced. We can only dream.

[@ytpremium7649]

JR is a guru god of the keys

[@msld_sound]

Okay, aaaaaand how’s the boot time? Still almost three minutes? 🤪 I’m sure we’ll get boot time improvements the same week we get a 64-bit microSAMPLER editor app. 😆

[@AlavonMajor]

Hilarious..and hopefully a quieter fan..mine sounds like an eMachines desktop from 2004😆

[@Jason75913]

Still the same under-powered CPU for the thing.

[@musicthattouches17]

Wow, aftertouch! My years old OASYS had aftertouch from beginning. I thought it is today standart.

[@EMdominguez92]

You would think! I'm looking to upgrade and so far I'm finding a lot of the lower-tier models do not have it. Seems to still be a premium feature

[@italo_spotter]

This sounds strange. I took my nautilus 61 to brazil and I dunno if I will be able to update it

[@daeone1514]

What made Korg just now do that??? Design wise, The Nautilus is just a suped up krome. I still wouldn’t mind one tho😊😊

[@Jason75913]

Krome doesn't sound as good as Nautilus/Kronos by a significant margin, but it has the better interface.

[@gabrielirlanda]

Naah, Krome sounds like a toy, you have to edit the instruments to make them sound "decent". Factory sound sucks.

[@daeone1514]

@@gabrielirlanda design wise genius, not technical. We all know krome is nowhere near Nautilus.

[@daeone1514]

@@Jason75913 design wise. Not technical wise

[@gabrielirlanda]

@@daeone1514 I have Krome and it is in fact a little beast, but you have to retouch the instruments a lot, in combi mode I'm surprised how good it sounds some combis I created. But Nautilus has a total different engine technology. I would say Krome is an upgraded M50 rather than a downgraded Nautilus.

[@aquaevitae]

This "new" Korg Nautilus is actually just Kronos in new package, with pretty much the same specs. Only real difference is that operating system is slightly simplified which is a good thing coz' the original Kronos while it's really powerful and probably the most versatile synthesizer and workstation on the market, with you can basically do the whole song, but it is definitely way too complicated to use. I still have the Kronos i bought 2012 and i'm not changing it out for a while. Anyway, i could consider to purchase the Nautilus, if Korg would release a new enhanced version of it, which in my perspective should include more sampling and audio recording capacity and run at 24bit/96khz while current Nautilus as well Kronos work at 24bit/48khz, so you could produce a real Hig-Res audio quality music with it...

[@Jason75913]

Hi-res is accomplished by cherry-picking recording gear and processing tools and techniques, higher sample rates are bogus. If I made you listen to 96kHz/24-bit music and then made a downsampled copy of that in 44.1kHz/24-bit and forced you to tell the two apart in a blind test, I guarantee you would fail miserably.

[@maplegreen6900]

Oasys is the best keyboard of all time , hands down. we can not see anything like that in the future ! just see what they did with Nautilus AT , they are using intel main board like they used in Kronos and cheap Plastic, and they are removing all the buttons they can including the Touch pads, Korg had to simplify Karma Software and implemented in the new line up with capability to produce custom GE inside the keyboard, if anyone in Korg see this please hear us , we want to see Oasys 2 one professional keyboard with tilting display , you are going in the wrong direction with Nautilus , please bring back the king we want to see another "Return of the King"

[@hanswurst2490]

Which synth I have to buy to get stuff for electronic music? Ever heard this? "Electronic music"? Techno?

[@Jason75913]

Fantom-06 or FA-06 But no matter what hardware synth you try, learning techno sound design is a top priority if you don't want to be limited to the old-school presets included in these keyboards. If you go for a Hydrasynth, Mininova, or Cobalt8 or similar, you'll still need to learn sound design in order to diversify the techno presets yourself.

[@hanswurst2490]

@Jason75913 Thank you very much 🖐️I know. I am doing so. But I am not a freak. JP8000 Supersaw is completely satisfying my ears. My remark was sarcastic😉 YT = most imaginable boring demonstrations of sound & performance. 99.9999% (e)piano strumming & one-finger-fiddling. Not everyone is interested in buying 37 machines, has the money to do so or the free space for the 17 racks. And coming from organs (single entertainer) I cannot find a kind of synth/workstation to give me sound and usability. My Yamaha was the worst choice for electronic sound, but least it is the most flexible one, when playing the classical way: all by own hands/feet. Roland is only a better sequencer.

[@Jason75913]

@@hanswurst2490 The Rolands have the JP8000 supersaws, minus the nasty aliasing. Big plus of the Rolands, even if you get a System-1, System-8, JD-Xi, or JD-XA.

[@mathiasg3335]

Why no nautilus 73 AT ?

[@jefersonbrito_16]

I think they are preparing a 76 keys AT or even with Poly AT option.

[@gabrielirlanda]

Wait another 3 years. 😄

[@dandimusc]

This has been a test of how chintzy can a company make a synth and still call it a flagship. Surely endorsers have panned the Nautilus as the best currently available.

[@Jason75913]

The front panel's too skimpy. I would think that the luxury tier keyboard should have a luxurious front panel as well, no? My old M50 walks all over this Nautilus at that, it has more buttons and less menu diving for basic functionality, so it is faster to work with. Heck, the cheaper Krome EX is also a bit of an improvement over the Nautilus. I've seen the Kross2, those real-time controls on the left that the Kross1 didn't have make no sense. It looks like some random newbie or one of the marketing guys had to substitute the dev who designed the front panel. Just wtff Yet the M50, Electribe2, Minilogue, and more have great interfaces. The Japanese (mal)function in mysterious ways. 🫤

[@dereles]

nice video. i. have a question. can nautilus read combi sounds from korg kronos ?

[@gabrielirlanda]

Yes. Kronos/Nautilus are 100% compatible, they share the same 9 engines and structure.

[@gargamel314]

I love how you can take an integral feature away and RE-RELEASE IT as new. Korg, you have plateaued with the Kronos - what happened? What you do with those incredible engineers who brought us from the M1 to the Kronos, and what have they been doing? We thought you'd have real physical modeling of like EVERYTHING by now!

[@Jason75913]

A "physical modeling" workstation keyboard has yet to happen under any company. And I don't see that happening any time soon. _facepalm.mkv_

[@danwentz]

Odd not to include it. Would people who purchased the original Nautilus be able to upgrade? The initial runs of the 50th Anniversary Moog Voyagers offered aftertouch upgrades as a user installed hardware kit. You basically dropped in a new pitch/modulation wheel assembly.

[@DocBambs]

The presenter mentions upgrades at the end of the video. 😊

[@danwentz]

Not if you have 73 keys :(

[@SoCalDan530]

Does this keyboard do mellotron sounds?

[@Jason75913]

it might have mellotron patches, Kross2 has one or two, but if they are missing in Nautilus, make your own presets, that's part of the point of these workstation keyboards (you'll need to learn sound design, and I know most users of workstation keyboards don't seem to delve into that, even if it benefits them more than they can imagine)

[@LeoKham-lh7ru]

How Much is This Keyboard

[@embodie_breaks7089]

Just released the Prologue with Aftertouch and 4 outputs... I know 5 were made with aftertouch but thats no good for the rest of us...

[@Kinnor.Home.Studios]

Next is Nautilus WTF (I mean: With The Faders)😅

[@isaacbengel5130]

All that for this

[@guidografe8339]

Oh come on - are you kidding ??? next Time a new stand or what

[@Talia.777]

🤣😂

[@1881Gordon]

😂😂😂

[@Kinnor.Home.Studios]

Nautilus 88 looks lile a Kronos 88 with less physical controls on the front panel.

[@Jason75913]

I don't know why they reduced controls. Krome and M50 have better workflows than Nautilus, and Nautilus is supposed to be the much pricier, more upscale and luxurious keyboard. Not a massive difference, but quite noticeable, nonetheless.

[@astrangeandmysteriouspodca7168]

So you can buy a upgrade kit for the korg nautilus if you want after touch?

[@pneptun]

yaiks. the "supreme strings" sound somewhat cheap imo. sounds unfinished/unpolished...

[@spookylaundry3326]

Still no mod wheel. Why do Korg and Roland keep using the joysticks?...

[@MisaelCastilloBrenes]

Is more versatile, imo. The Kross does have mod wheel and pitch bend wheel (In reality they are two wheel assignable controllers, but those are the most know uses). I prefer the Joystick over the wheels because the J allows to combine both functionalities with one move, something you appreciate when playing live.

[@Jason75913]

I've just been reading complaints about the new Roland Gaia2 not having the traditional Roland joystick, they instead reused the miniature pitch and mod wheels from JD-Xi 🤣🤣🤣

[@miraclestudio9167]

This is upgrade version of Krome. Korg should combine the power of M3 and Kronos as a new King .

[@Jason75913]

Doesn't the Kronos' HD1 engine already beat whatever the M3 has? I have the cheaper version of the M3, the M50, and Kronos beats that easily.

[@xxxxxx-rp2ck]

Ok so Korg made a super keyboard in a very affortable price and we all compare it to Kronos. But Kronos was double the price. And let face it maybe 1% of us will explore full potentials of this beast. Kronos is still the flagship until Korg announce a €€6000€€ keyboard.

[@steveopenshaw1219]

1:40 I'm not on the naughty list yet

[@larrbaII]

Why not the 76 key? makes no sense.

[@christiankennedy2212]

Japanese frugality

[@jefersonbrito_16]

I think they are preparing a 76 key AT or even with Poly AT option.

[@jerryKJose]

The AT is not at all a great feature to be trumpeted. Most of the boards have this today. It doesn’t have ribbon control, no vector joystick, no KARMA, and this crap is the flagship .? We are not fools to admit this ..

[@classicpianoacademygh3268]

We need a new Kronos

[@AndrewLeSynt]

after this a SE will come, then a SE EX, then a MB PL MU, then a G7s UB9 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@khonjek125]

Bring back the Kronos the best keyboard ever

[@mdonestudio4062]

Tried it before...so expensive yet the sounds so fake... that's y i switch to vsts..sounds authentic...and if one wants to buy a keyboard..just get the Nord or kronos or montage..then it's worth the money

[@Sagittarius-88]

I still have my Triton Extreme 88. The newer stuff on the market looks great, but I can't justify the cost right now. I'll stick with what I got. Still works perfectly.

[@Jason75913]

If you simply perform through the usual mediocre venue speakers, you're doing fine, I suppose, though a Krome EX or M50 should be a noticeable upgrade in organ, EPs, APs, and string ensemble sounds, especially the Krome EX, unless the speakers are that awful. Only if you can grab one of those keyboards without much trouble to yourself, of course.

[@alshk6763]

unfortunately it looks like it IS a (lesser) replacement to the Kronos. Looks like Korg is trying to get unit sale numbers and no longer pursuing the elite game, where fewer units are to be sold anyway. Yam's new montage is out of this world sound-wise, and they improved on their (previously) confusing control layout. I'm thinkin to sell the oasys and put it towards that. While this nautilus sounds a bit like a midi can (at least in the demos), with very few controls, it would seem like going backwards... it's def not a candidate on my list. And how's it that Nord can sell a simple three engine hybrid board for near 6k just on the "retro" cool look and decent (reliable/roadworthy) hardware? C'mon Korg, make OASYS 2.

[@davidg.250]

Why not korg Kronos AT 😕

[@gabrielirlanda]

Kronos already has AT.

[@DennisCarrero]

ese loco se quita la barba y tambien unos veinte años de encima

[@Rob-ny5ee]

NO ☹ KORG Bring back the KRONOS

[@MyJoyDepecheMode]

🥰👍🥰

[@judsonchristudas]

Please stop making ugly looking keyboards dear Korg, Atleast do the sides as PA5X.

[@ramzmusique6144]

C'est pas bon

[@zoomzoom3950]

Korg Nautilus including the AT is an obvious money grab to milk $ from the Kronos at a lower price. I am dissapoint Korg. Korg needs a new flagship above and beyond the Kronos 2, the Nautilus is the ghetto knockoff. IMO

[@Jason75913]

Korg has no other upscale keyboard at this time. Just Nautilus or the entry-level Kross2 and its garbage keybed.

[@RonaldFigura]

No PAT? LAME!

[@atomictraveller]

jordan rudess yes, xoxos no. that's selling things to people. enjoy your barely functional sound devices.

[@cameron357]

This is terrible...but it's korg, we still paying for sounds....smh

[@cleitonbispo2030]

A piece of rubbish... And they still launch at a higher price than the Kronos, and that's not even close to the Top of the brand. Korg doing his shit