Inverted Wingback FM24 Role Guide

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@charliebonner7855
@charliebonner7855 3 ай бұрын
Don't know if I'm alone here but DLP is the only KZbinr atm that i actually refresh my page hoping he's uploaded!! Also his vids have improved my tactical awareness so much! Smashing it!!! :D
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
seriously this means a lot that there is this kind of support for the channel! Thank you for the comment and happy you are enjoying the videos
@alexanderneumann6587
@alexanderneumann6587 3 ай бұрын
You and me both!
@darrenchook2764
@darrenchook2764 3 ай бұрын
Just saw your videos last week. Reignited my passion to play fm again. I'm a 4-3-3 guy but with your videos, I switched to a 4-2dm-3-1, using roles like IW(D), SV(A), forming a 2-2-5-1 during the attacking phase.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
that means a lot that the videos our helping with the love of FM again! And with the IWB you can create some really fun formations in the attacking phase. (I will say that I'm a 433 guy too though haha)
@wezarxmen6ar761
@wezarxmen6ar761 3 ай бұрын
I like that this is being used more often now in modern football, it adds alot of variety to the tactics, good video bro waiting for the next one :)
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
thank you and happy you like it! It's a fun role watching stay out on the flanks, and then make his runs into the midfield
@juniorlimma8100
@juniorlimma8100 3 ай бұрын
love the IWB, I'm playing with 2 in my 433 at the moment, so they free up the CMs to be much more aggressive and move where they see fit. Great video as always man, thank you!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I love the IWB because it's easy to start getting overloads in the midfield and like you said you can have your actual midfielders be more aggressive
@falsenineteen
@falsenineteen 3 ай бұрын
I want to echo a lot of other comments I’ve seen. This series of videos going over the player roles is excellent. Everything is explained really well, and the pacing and calm nature of the videos is great.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
thank you!! I try to make these as clear and concise as I can haha. And they've been a lot of fun to make, so it means a lot that you and others have been enjoying them
@taongaluo9937
@taongaluo9937 3 ай бұрын
I love playing with very creative players in my midfield three, so my IWBs are mainly defence first. My favorite attributes for them are all the physicals, composure, decisions, concentration and high technique. This is so that they can do decently well in possession and be difficult to get passed without the ball.
@tombkingsethbattlechannel9419
@tombkingsethbattlechannel9419 3 ай бұрын
First :D very well explained. The inverted WB is really underused and, in my opinion, a must have if u are playing with a winger cause usually WB or FB on the same side are kinda useless or lets say the dont really contribute anything to ur game except of defending. Maybe also worth mentioning that BBM´s or BWM´s are great options to retrain as an inverted wingback cause usually the have the passing, tackling, workrate and stamina for that role.
@lukaszprotas
@lukaszprotas 3 ай бұрын
Also DLPs are good iwb su😊
@allezxander1232
@allezxander1232 3 ай бұрын
You can play Wb or fb with a winger and get good results. Use the underlap team instruction, tell your winger to cut inside, tell the full back to sit narrower, etc. There's a lot you can do to make it work
@ianresc3615
@ianresc3615 3 ай бұрын
I never really used them, because I either played with two DM's or didn't have the right players to play in that role. After all, they need to be good at passing and are basically wide DM's. That is one of the reasons I like to retrain certain DM's to be able to play in the WB position rather than in other central positions.
@lukaszprotas
@lukaszprotas 3 ай бұрын
But if u use SV, IWB is q great choice 😉
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Great points. It reminds me a bit of the libero. You don't necessarily look for a centerback, but look for a midfielder that you can retrain and fit a centerback/libero.
@mattyzucks
@mattyzucks 3 ай бұрын
the first clip you show is a good example of why this role might not actually be as great as people think it is; you are very exposed on the flanks when your IWBs come inside, so if you are playing teams that use Wingers, especially Wingers on attack duty, you can get destroyed on the counterattack. IWB can't just be played by any fullback or converted midfielder; to mitigate the risks he really must have good pace, acceleration, positioning, work rate and anticipation. Otherwise you can get really caught out. Your videos are great btw, this is a great breakdown just like all your others. keep up the good work
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
this is a great point, thanks for the addition. I think any time you have a role pushing forward from the back (libero, wide centerback, etc...), you have to be careful about the other roles around him and/or pay attention to what happens when you lose possession of the ball. I think that's why Kyle Walker is so good... if he's ever caught out, he just uses his incredible speed to make up for it haha and glad you're enjoying the videos!
@mattyzucks
@mattyzucks 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheDeepLyingPlaymakeryeah Kyle Walker is like the perfect guy for this role, absolutely. Not saying it's a bad role at all, just have to be discerning about who you stick in there
@dynamx65
@dynamx65 3 ай бұрын
AmaIng videos. Found your channel last week and as a new player on FM it is extremely helpful to us! BTW a suggestion for the future, maybe after you finish all the player roles and combination videos you can break down the tactical side. Gegenpress, tiki taka etc and what counter press and other bits of tactics mean and how they affect play. Im sure it would help others!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Thank you and glad the videos are helping out! And thanks for the suggestion, I'll see about some videos that get more into tactics once we get through some more roles/combos
@Mytthewx
@Mytthewx Ай бұрын
I'm watching your videos one after one and I really need to appreciate your work. I need to talk with you on discord man.
@Sprite8822
@Sprite8822 3 ай бұрын
Another great video. I'm really enjoying the series. Keep up the great work!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@Sprite8822
@Sprite8822 3 ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I'm looking forward to your playmaker video(s) and I think a IW vs IF would be a great one too!
@ryanboardman8326
@ryanboardman8326 3 ай бұрын
Its a great role on support when you only have 2 CM helps cover as one CM moves forward and help recycle possession
@leonardostasi6608
@leonardostasi6608 3 ай бұрын
Great video and very good job! Only one remark: in Fm24 the IWB still cut inside in the back 3 systems and plays like a midfielder exactly in the same way he does with back 4, but in the the previous Fms he didn't, like you have said during the video
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
well dang, that was a good 5 hours before my video was outdated haha. But thank you for the correction! I'll see if I can get a correction in one of the upcoming videos
@leonardostasi6608
@leonardostasi6608 3 ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker sorry man 😅, if you can modify the video, add one more thing: when utilise a system with 2 DM but one of them is a player that leaves his positision (like Segundo Volante or a Roaming Playmaker) the IWB still cut inside as the same than you play with one DM
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Yea I was wrong on this one haha. I've removed that section from the video to remove any confusion, so when it finishes processing future viewers shouldn't have the issue. But thank you for bringing it to my attention!
@fernandasubekti
@fernandasubekti 3 ай бұрын
excellent explanation
@guilhermequeiroz7081
@guilhermequeiroz7081 21 күн бұрын
GOAT channel
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 20 күн бұрын
🙏🙏
@mustuknow2606
@mustuknow2606 3 ай бұрын
Great video once again ❤
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🤗
@Flexium_GG
@Flexium_GG 3 ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel. Holy shit keep it up!!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
haha thanks!
@jaden_shah
@jaden_shah 3 ай бұрын
Can we get an RPM guide?? It feels like nobody understands the role? If not all good just wanted to ask. Keep up the great stuff dude!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
I promise it's on the way in the (somewhat) near future!! haha
@leandrodebarros3566
@leandrodebarros3566 3 ай бұрын
Please, do the Wide Playmaker next! :)
@hungotuan4431
@hungotuan4431 3 ай бұрын
Try to master using the IWB role in FM! They can really elevate your tactic just by their presence in your midfield!
@zakthenerd4689
@zakthenerd4689 3 ай бұрын
I'm really enjiying your videos. Keep up the great work 👏🏾. 2 questions: In your tactic for the day would an IW(A) be a better in place of the IF(A) to create space for the box to box and offer some width before the WB get's high. Secondly what is your resoning on the choice of striker role?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! As for your questions: 1) And do you mean the Pacific FC tactic (the one with the wingback and inverted wingback)? I think that could absolutely work! But we had a ton of success with that tactic (we were actually able to win the league!), so I thought keep it going until it stops working haha. We got on a hot streak so I kept it the same. 2) For the striker, I love the DLF in a 433 because he drops into that space in the attacking midfield area, but he still has the attacking prowess of a tradional striker. Makes for a great combo in the tactic
@CerdasExcel
@CerdasExcel 3 ай бұрын
Sir DLP, Can u bring about the difference between DLP support and DM support? I am still confused because the role looks the same in match. Thank you
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
I'll see if I can do a dedicated video on it, but the short answer is that the playmaker would have more of a passing range than the defensive midfielder. The playmaker also has the "focus play" hidden instruction, meaning his teammates will look to pass to him more often (good if you want to play a possession style). But like you noticed they do occupy the same spaces in the midfield. Thank you for the question, hope that helps!
@VurtAddicted
@VurtAddicted 3 ай бұрын
First role I never used, thank you! On attack duty, does he enter the box to receive the cross?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if I saw mine specifcally get on a cross, but he was in and around the penalty box so I think it would definitely be possible!
@maymunity7942
@maymunity7942 3 ай бұрын
A must have in any 4-3-3! The way they tuck in in build-up, yet still will provide support on the wings if necessary *chef's kiss* Very interesting things happen when you also have a HB in the DM slot
@Sirlightskin97
@Sirlightskin97 3 ай бұрын
Could we get a combo video with how IWB works with other roles . Maybe a personal tier list of best roles with IWB
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
this is an awesome idea!!!! Thank you for the suggestion. I'll see if I can get something like this going for future videos
@jeffreywoo2594
@jeffreywoo2594 3 ай бұрын
Is Inverted wingback on attack different to Complete wingback on attack with cut inside player instructions?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
that's a great question! If I'm honest, I don't know if I've ever tried the CWB with that player instruction, but you've given me a good idea for my next playthrough! My guess is that the CWB would stay out wide and then cut inside when they have the ball, and an IWB would be inside even if they didn't have the ball. In this video, when the IWB(A) scores the goal, he's already in the midfield; I imagine a CWB would've been wider and then try to get into the midfield (if that makes sense). The CWB also has "roam from position" so he may go wherever he wants anyway haha. Anyway, that was probably more than you wanted haha but thank you for the question!!
@josephchambers4509
@josephchambers4509 3 ай бұрын
So even if one of the two DMs is something like a "Segundo Volante" or "Roaming Playermaker" who vacates that DM slot during possession the IWB on that side won't tuck in?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Nah, I think I was wrong in this one. I believe it was more with a holding midfielder (like an anchor) or with older versions. It should be working like a normal IWB when you use a role like the SV. Anyway, sorry for the confusion! I've edited the video to remove that part, thank you for brining the issue to my attention.
@josephchambers4509
@josephchambers4509 3 ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Thanks for the quick reply! Found your channel recently and loving the vids!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
@@josephchambers4509 Absolutely! I always appreciate notes like this because there are so many variations of a role that I would rather be corrected on something than leave the wrong info in there haha. And glad you've been enjoying the videos! thank you for the support!
@jjavalon
@jjavalon 3 ай бұрын
Very informative video, thank you as always.
@AndriyaPradiptaKarim
@AndriyaPradiptaKarim 2 ай бұрын
But I like a Complete Wing Back
@AndriyaPradiptaKarim
@AndriyaPradiptaKarim 2 ай бұрын
Complete Wing Back : Support + Attack = AUTOMATIC
@YGormy
@YGormy 3 ай бұрын
The IWB has become one of my favorite roles to implement in my tactics this year, along with the VOL. The IWB is so good when you have a player in that role who can be an elite playmaker, and they can even chip in with goals from time to time. Definitely recommend the IWB big time! Great stuff as always my friend, and I noticed you changed up your thumbnails! Love the new look!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Looking forward to your next tactics video! And appreciate the thumbnails comment haha, always trying to make little improvements
@YGormy
@YGormy 3 ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker The little things sometimes make the biggest difference! Next tactic will be out next week and is actually going to be the new version of the tactic that is used in the video I drop today😄 Keep up the great work man. True gem of the FM Community!
@hungotuan4431
@hungotuan4431 3 ай бұрын
The Zinchenko, Cancelo,… role!
@LewisU16
@LewisU16 3 ай бұрын
Loved the video! I had no idea that IWB are essentially WB when there are 2 or more DMs. In my current tactic I use an IWB with a VOL as the adjacent DM, and just assumed the IWB would take the position of the VOL when in possession as the VOL would push up but i guess thats not the case?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
It's funny, but it may be a case by case basis? I was under the impression that he functions more like a WB, but maybe with the postional play in FM24 and you have a SV, your IWB will fill in that space? I think one of the coded instructions is to sit narrower, but I guess if your tactic has it working, than keep at it!
@allezxander1232
@allezxander1232 3 ай бұрын
They either outshine my midfielders or get absolutely ate up by opposing wingers. No in-between in my experience.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
I feel like "completely dominate or get worked over" is a good description for quite a few roles haha
@bideee
@bideee 3 ай бұрын
Watching this knowing full well I’ll never use this role but still loving the videos!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Those are the best kinds of videos haha
@gwendooleeng9303
@gwendooleeng9303 3 ай бұрын
Very intersting role, and using it in game is so fun. Another amazing video, thanks!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure! I do love the way he balances staying out wide and trying to get into the midfield. A lot of fun to watch play out in the match engine
@meesterpitta
@meesterpitta 3 ай бұрын
Another great video! I love using an IWB though I do realise they have become very meta in this game, with most engine breaking tactics utilising two IWBs. I try to keep my tactics somewhat grounded in reality so I like to use an IWB on defend or support on one side and a IFB on the other in a 433, creating the coveted 325 with a box midfield. The rest defence also makes it so the defensive pivot can be given more playingmaking freedom instead of having to screen the defence. Your caveats also show why stupid formations work a lot better this year. Players are much more intelligent than previous years where they react to their teammates' positioning creating more positional structure instead of occupying the same space like they used to do. Also for the profile of player, I generally look for relatively quick defensive midfielders for the IWB role and retrain them. Someone like Rongier is a perfect IWB.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Oooo I love that idea for using an IWB and an IFB together, I'll have to try that out haha. I used the two IWB in the first part of the video for the sake the example, but the Pacific FC tactic I showed would be more in line how I would use it. And I'm the same, usually my tactics are pretty normal (at least I think they are lol), and I like to use an IWB on one side and a WB on the other
@meesterpitta
@meesterpitta 3 ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Just make sure that you put your central defender on the IWB side on stay wider so the back line is more like a back 3 instead of having a massive wingback sized hole on one side.
@DerrickDerai-zi8tb
@DerrickDerai-zi8tb 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the videos you make I love them
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@04mmar
@04mmar 3 ай бұрын
Can you talk about the inverted full back? I don't quite understand the difference between IFB and IWB
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
The inverted fullback will act more like an extra centeral defender and tuck inside when you have possession, and the inverted wingback acts like an extra midfielder. the IFB is good if you're using a libero in a back-4, or if you just want to provide more defensive cover in your back line
@04mmar
@04mmar 3 ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker if I'm on a back 4, i make the left back into a IWB, and the right back as IFB will it act as a 3 at the back? Or do i need to put the left centre back on stay wider to act as a back 3?
@Brazio20
@Brazio20 2 ай бұрын
@@04mmar it'll act as back 3 naturally, no need to add additional instruction.
@MegaUMU
@MegaUMU 3 ай бұрын
Seeing you use Crossing specialist Ouwejan from Schalke as an IWB A example, tingled some of my nerves funnily
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes sacrifices must be made haha. I loved Ouédraogo though; Schalke has (had in the case of Ouédraogo :( some fun players
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