Inverter Dies And Testing 500w Reliable

[@lexuslx450]

Wow .. I Just got my 3000 Reliable Inverter today an Was about to wire it up tomorrow .. Boy! luck is with me falling on this video giving me the heads up . Thanks GOG for sharing all your experiences ..

[@GoingOffGrid101]

your welcome GL try not to push more then 2000w continuous as some of these overheat I have heard.

[@mrj2848]

Great video! I own an 800w 24vdc unit and I like these reliable brand units since they are very easy to repair and modify. Inverters that use the case as a heatsink are a pain to open up and repair. The reliable units have a large heatsink on the board so removal and testing is much easier in my opinion. I have actually created a micro grid ac coupled system to a grid tie inverter. I power limited the GTI used a DC DC boost converter with adjustable current limit. This method restricts the GTI output to 250w based on my current limit on the DC DC converter. So yes my reliable brand 800w inverter gets assistance from the GTI when the house load exceeds 300w. I used a hall sensor to detect load and parallel the both inverters else the GTI will force power into the reliable brand unit and blow it! (Yup I learned that the hard way, the need to ensure a minimum load is present before paralleling). Keep up with the great work! Regards,Fellow off grid home owner.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

thats sick I tried that once! my inverter did not fail but I was scared to keep the test going for long :D

[@mrj2848]

Once your ac load is greater than the grid tie maximum output you will be safe. The off grid inverter will ramp down it's output, something a GTI can never do. You will need a robust control system because once that ac load reduces in magnitude, the GTI must be disconnected. I like GTIs since they provide pure sine power at a really low cost. So to sum up, micro grid ac coupled systems are workable with certain caveats. If you want my documented write up on my home solar Projects I can email them to you complete with pics. I'm not skilled like you are with making clean videos. Lol.

[@notyoung]

I have three Reliable Electric pure sine wave inverters. A 500 watt and two 2000 watt. Used within their limits, they just keep working. Almost 3 years in backup power service on the first 2000 watt unit. Checking with an oscilloscope, the inverters deliver cleaner power than our local co-op.

[@richy719]

Great Chanel!

[@hotrex7779]

The ground sits at the mid voltage due to the two small capacitors that are connected from the live output and neutral out put down to the ground of the case and also to that earth terminal . You may have problems if you battery’s are connected to a charging system that is connecting the negative terminal of your battery’s to ground and your battery’s are not floating

[@joeprimal2044]

I just blew mine up for the second time. Just replacing the fets, resistor and protective diodes was apparently not enough. I'll have to dig into it and proceed more carefully. I have used mine hooked directly to the house from the main wire hookups and had no problem.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

then your ground and neutral are not connected, is it a older home ? also sucks how did you blow it the first and second time ?

[@joeprimal2044]

I'm pretty sure the ground and neutral are connected in the buildings. What I'm saying is I did that using the high power hookups, not the plugs. So I just used the hot and neutral and not the ground on the inverter. The second time it just blew when I turned it on. There must be something else wrong. I suspect the main control board is fried and is locking the fets on, because when it blew it literally turned 6 of the 8 fuses into charcoal. Oh well, a learning experience. I'm going to be much more methodical next repair, I was careless.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yea been there done that :D you might have a death transformer or dead output fet, anyways GL hope you can fix her!!!

[@joeprimal2044]

I replaced the output fets too. I think anyway. Those are the 4 that are off by themselves, correct?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes they are, its trial and error with these repairs GL man!

[@oldtimeengineer26]

All three of my reliable inverters at 24v and 48v are connected to the ground pin and the small prong just like it is supposed to be and are working fine for me. The earth and low side are connected just like regular USA wiring with no problems

[@GoingOffGrid101]

but is it connected to your house main panel? that is where the ground and the neutral are binded together killing these inverters, try testing yours to see if the ground is 50% live if so make sure never to bind ground and neutral.

[@techmon88]

My two 24V reliables get around 90 volts live to ground and 60 volts neutral to ground. Same on the hardwired and receptacles as you'll see they are connected together inside. I have my house hot and neutrals separate when connected to the inverters as tying to the neutral on the panel will possibly damage any inverter not made for grid tie operation.

[@pudiful]

I use reliable 1500 watts with 1:1 transformer(transformer specs, 4 kilowatts max) in my house. No problem at all.

[@jontscott]

I wonder if that little lead acid battery's voltage sag under testing made a difference? Perhaps if the battery voltage held up at 14+ volts like a car might with the alternator charging they could deliver a bit more power? 750 watts at 12 volts will be pulling over 62.5 amps. If the battery was closer to 14.5 volts the amps might drop enough to not trip the current limit (maybe around 50 amps for the reliable?) I guess it all depends if the inverters are shutting off due to A) output power/amps or B) input voltage or maybe C) input current? Since the first step of the inverter is likely a boost converter to get the 12 volt input to maybe 180 volts or so I feel an input current limit would be a logical design.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

you could be 100% right but I also had a charger plus the battery didn't fall below 11 volts so its hard to say, I will try this again hooked to my 180 amp diesel jeep :)

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

Going Off Grid thease videoes my god!! so good they are tho i am not got at knowledge of this i still like what you are doing like you know please reply hi to me thanks

[@GoingOffGrid101]

hey buddy thanks for watching!

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

thanks Good luck on your future vidoes Can I say something Would you mind if I send you something WHICH IS NOT INVERTER RELATED its Some cheap shit I mean do you know the youtuber named "Bigclive" He does those kinda videos So can I send you something its actually a cheap china shit and would you mind rewiewing it And also I am a 12 year old kid lol I am really interested in electronics And is a aims inverter worth it? Thanks for reading this comment Bye Please answer my comment! :)

[@thebluedan]

I have a 2500 one recently it started acting up. Red light flickering, and a clicking noise. The lights in the house pulsing. Not sure what is up. It’s run fine for 8months. I never hooked up a ground... not sure if that is the problem....

[@GoingOffGrid101]

Is it only when you barreries are full?

[@thebluedan]

Going Off Grid not sure...batteries only charge to 25.5 v these days. Voltage for my charge controller is about 28.4 in full sun.

[@thebluedan]

Seems very random. Also when the fan kicks on it pulses. Never stays fully on

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@thebluedan weird might be on itd way out i have 2 that are 3000w and 3 years old

[@thebluedan]

Going Off Grid yeah probably, I had one blow in a light strike last year. Maybe I can combine to fix. I think maybe it’ has something to do with switch for the temperature sensor and cooling fan...but I’m not very good with electronics... not sure if I sure if I should switch brands...seems like all are a roll of the dice. That’s why I tend to like these cheap ones, and that I live in Brazil and the taxes double the price compared to USA....Because of their stupid taxes.

[@duannguyen1550]

I hope you film your attempt at fixing this. I would love to watch, thanks.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

ok i will do so! thanks for letting me know!

[@jamiewickens6643]

I have the 1500w one I over power AC by over powered hover where would you purchase the spare parts plz

[@plojm123]

Goingoffgrid big fan and following for long time. I have seen u go back and forth on this I am thinking its because some reliables u can hook up neutral ground and some models u cant. But odd is old time engineering said it was 60v betw neutral and ground and he still did it. Who's right and how can we definitely test without blowing up inverters

[@GoingOffGrid101]

just grounds before the inverter and after and you will be ok, Reliable told me that these inverters are not designed for neutral to ground bond, at least on these older models.

[@plojm123]

@@GoingOffGrid101 so you mean gound the chassis of the reliable inverter to a separate actual grounding rod and then run jusr hot and neutral into a sub panel that back at the main already has natural and ground tied??

[@TheJohnny1x]

So please explain, why do you say this is not a home inverter? I have one and it powers my house. Should I not use it. Why?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

its fine if your careful but if your careful running a full house then your fine. I find its when you have multiple people in one house thats when 3000w is not enough and you end up over loading it.

[@TheJohnny1x]

@@GoingOffGrid101 gotcha. My 4000 seems to handle things well. Just my wife and I. No pumps, elec htrs, just appliances. (No stove, propane). I really wish I would have gone at least 24 volts though. Bad (uninformed) decision. Using 24, series 31, 105ahr. Deep cycle Batterys. Would have been such a better supply sys. Thanks for clarifying.

[@southernohiosolarhomestead8477]

both of my reliable inverters tell me over volt at 25 to 26 volts and they make me fridge light blink on and off i just dont trust them ,gladd your having good luck

[@GoingOffGrid101]

its a dumb design to have that low of a warning, but from what they tell me it will not hurt the inverter, I run my 48 volt inverter at 61 volts all the time and it stops flickering if you put 10% load or more :)

[@thebluedan]

Southern Ohio Solar homestead my fridge light is pulsing too. The inverter red light is blinking and clicking. Also the fan is acting up runs stops run stops. Had been working good for 8 months. The beep also sounds off randomly....

[@MinecraftAndMoreRandomness]

my 1000w reliable dosent its 0 volts from nuetral to ground and hot to ground, so its not all of them

[@kenyon337]

Thanks good info !!!!

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes hope it save some peoples inverters!

[@freetrailer4poor]

I broke my 36V, 3000W reliable inverter on the 2nd day. I had to try running solar panels directly into inverter with no charge controller. There are guides on youtube on how to test inverter. The salesman offer like $75 for parts to fix it. The mosfets and fuses were blown. But, I figure if I put it together it would only be like 50-50 that it would work again. He said too expensive to ship to China to get it repaired. Although the documentation did not say I could hook up inverter to panels directly, I had to try it. I should have asked before I tried it. The 72 cell poly worked fine, but the 60 cell poly damaged the inverter. The hot summer 100 degree heat lowers Vp to low values maybe 30V. The salesman said the voltage fluctuations were too great and I should have known better. I was thinking of using the case to build a 7s16p 18650 battery with battery holders like Adam Welch did in his last video, where 4 cells are spot welded together. So it might be something you can do with yours. The shipping to you was very expensive like $100.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I will be willing to pay that shipping, as it will make good youtube videos, let me know, BTW that sucks a lot, if your willing to but them again try for a 50% off deal, it should work, don't tell them I said that :D

[@esteve801]

My 5000 watt 220v just has red led on. Not sending power. How can I troubleshoot. Just 3 months

[@GoingOffGrid101]

does it smell burnt? if you open the case and run a ohim meter on the mosfets see if there is a dead short, if there is then the mosfets are shot, if they are good try a different battery/ cables, also check the fuse inside inverter, make sure to let the inverter sit with the power on and disconnected from any power for at least 10 mins before working on the unit

[@esteve801]

Going Off Grid can I test the mosfets on board? All you tube videos have them removed. You have a video troubleshooting?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes you can test onboard

[@esteve801]

Going Off Grid I contacted reliable but so far no solution. I figured I would send the same link to you to see if you have any tips. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6Osqa2iZrdpbbs

[@colormaker5070]

How did they get a CE certification with a live ground?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

none, this inverter will not be the main inverter to run my house in Canada the magna sine 4400 will be :)

[@leexgx]

Been looking for a pure inverter for a car I did get one (probably junk) but it seems most of them don't like very low loads, like a phone charger it instantly made my screen sensors freak out (nearly called 999 lol) seems most of them have a warning about using low loads like phone chargers on under £/$ 100 pure sinwave inverters I still got this synthetic sinwave inverter I have had for more than 7 years my quick chargers partly hate it as it makes my phone's marginally freak out when using the screen and rapid charging most of the time does not work) , but the Google Pixel 2 charger does not seem to give a damn about it and my pixle 2 phone charges fast (charger is not making buzzing noises) need to get a USB 3 to USB normal that phones norm use to see if phone is happy with it (only down side with the pixel charger is it's using the USB-pd standard not QC 2 or 3 so most of my phones will only pull 1.0a at 5v)

[@GoingOffGrid101]

the inverters I have don't seem to have this problem.

[@freetrailer4poor]

Many inverters have USB ports, not this one though

[@GoingOffGrid101]

true but the ones I have that have usb take way to much power to just run the usb :(

[@dlewisja]

hey my 3000 reliable dc voltage meter has always read .2 volts lover than my make skyblue which one is on the money? the make skyblue is pretty good charge controller i have the 60amp along with my reliable 3000 oh and i never go over 2000 watts well its always runs from about 90 watts to about 400 so the fan comes on once awhile hey thanks for the grounding tip you just save a lot of MOSFETs lol thumbs up

[@GoingOffGrid101]

thanks for the great comment! these inverters are very good as long and you dont short them, I have run 100% load for 5 mins I would not do for much longer, 2000w is a very good place to stop and 3000w surge.

[@Desertvanlife]

Ok boys and girls SOLAR PIMP will give you your lesson today so please pay vary close attention ........

[@TheJohnny1x]

Well?

[@thenuts133]

that's not true in my case. I have mine hard wired to 3 arc and gfi outlets. also connected to a 8foot ground rod with 6awg solid wire. your wrong

[@GoingOffGrid101]

some models do not have this problem I tested other inverters from reliable and I believe they fixed it.