A very cautious opponent (Online Battle

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Invicta

Invicta

Күн бұрын

In the sun and the heat, my opponent makes the sensible move of letting me come to him. But where is the honor in sitting back?

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@ericeinarson6654
@ericeinarson6654 8 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm a big fan of having artillery in online battles. You can't just form up and wait on the defence if your opponent is pounding at you. Artillery forces both players to engage.
@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima
@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima 6 жыл бұрын
No, it forces the man with the less artilley to engage. In fact artillery is supporting camping more than ever.
@antred11
@antred11 6 жыл бұрын
Artillery was an ESSENTIAL part of Napoleonic battles. Disallowing artillery in a Napoleonic battle is stupid.
@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima
@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima 6 жыл бұрын
I agree if you want to make this battle realistic. But if you want a strategic and serious battle then you may disallow artilley to let strategy be the only factr of your victory.
@ravark
@ravark 6 жыл бұрын
or you just make the rule 5 light 1 art max hmmm.
@FullOilBarrel
@FullOilBarrel 6 жыл бұрын
JSparo thats why you pick more artillery than the opponent
@Emperorofthemoon1
@Emperorofthemoon1 9 жыл бұрын
I'm always cautious when they say no artillery. Artillery is good for forcing troops out of dug in positions.
@DracoAvian
@DracoAvian 9 жыл бұрын
Ideally yes, but what really happens is the jerk can just sit in his deployment with cannons and force you to move up. There's really no way around it. It's why Empire and especially Napoleon are my least favorite online.
@Emperorofthemoon1
@Emperorofthemoon1 9 жыл бұрын
DracoAvian true, but you could target his artillery and troops, forcing him to move.
@Normacly
@Normacly 9 жыл бұрын
DracoAvian I really don't mind artillery battles, because at least you have a chance to make the camper move forward. Even if I win the artillery battles, I always move my men forward to face my opponent army. Of course, the only exception is when the opponent is playing as the Turks. Damn their huge artillery, I must say they are compensating for something.
@nickelsner5738
@nickelsner5738 9 жыл бұрын
bobsburgrersfan12 no arty means youll lose. No arty is a stupid rule for cowards that want to play defensive
@Emperorofthemoon1
@Emperorofthemoon1 9 жыл бұрын
nick elsner exactly
@firebird4491
@firebird4491 8 жыл бұрын
This reminds me a bit like how I was when I first got total war. I HATED taking any form of casualties. Even having a couple men shot felt Devestating to me. So I'd only engage if I absolutely knew I wouldn't take many casualties. So when my allies were battling it out I was sitting back at my spawn like a pussy XD
@jddubisek9263
@jddubisek9263 9 жыл бұрын
Way to defeat campers: 1. Add time limit to the game 2. Get on deffending side 3. If your enemy camp just wait and let him lose over the time limit 4. Profit
@Welther47
@Welther47 9 жыл бұрын
Dubisek Dubina you are just a camper yourself then
@Chujoi0
@Chujoi0 4 жыл бұрын
Fighting camping with camping
@RavenHeadInn
@RavenHeadInn 9 жыл бұрын
If i was you , i would of taken the hill on your left flank (like you did) & then sat there ... if he complained about you not attacking ... 'sorry,im rolling a joint & having a beer , i can wait all day'. Always pissed the campers off back in the day ;)
@GAMA830
@GAMA830 9 жыл бұрын
RavenHeadInn Lol I do the same on shogun 2 if I notice they camping in the corner i just tab out and wait for the time limit to end
@DracoAvian
@DracoAvian 9 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that's the only real counter.
@stsk7
@stsk7 7 жыл бұрын
RavenHeadInn hahahah this made my day. imma do that shit
@andrewj8691
@andrewj8691 9 жыл бұрын
There should definitely be a factor in the game as far as morale is concerned that if all the player does is lose ground, like your opponent did your troops get frustrated and demoralized.
@cato1213
@cato1213 9 жыл бұрын
Basically, the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight reenacted in NTW.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 9 жыл бұрын
Svendai Cinderglazed Hmmm that's actually a really great way to put it
@ValkyrieOey
@ValkyrieOey 9 жыл бұрын
Svendai Cinderglazed haha well said.
@BeedrillYanyan
@BeedrillYanyan 9 жыл бұрын
+Tommy England what makes you say so?
@PitcanaryRamFan
@PitcanaryRamFan 7 жыл бұрын
Well....I'd rather fight like you than him!
@Hephaestion96
@Hephaestion96 9 жыл бұрын
Skirmish units automatically get tired when you put them in skirmish formation or light infantry doctrine, the fatigue is 10x quicker and worse in the desert.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 9 жыл бұрын
GETAFE LEÓN Thanks, I actually never knew this was a feature
@ovi8822
@ovi8822 9 жыл бұрын
GETAFE LEÓN they are also get tired if it rains or in snow maps, btw i found out that voltigeurs and rifles are not affected by skirmish mode.
@Gamma_
@Gamma_ 9 жыл бұрын
GETAFE LEÓN sorry out of topic question here, but whats the difference between empire and napoleon total war? I'm kinda confused in choosing which one to buy
@Hephaestion96
@Hephaestion96 9 жыл бұрын
Benoo Perkasa Empire Total War is a little bit older (not that much older though) and has the best strategy game campaign I've ever seen, but if you've played a few of the Total War games you won't like the AI because it's dreadful and glitchy at times, also the game can get kind of repetitive, but the "epic" factor is really high and that's what pushes players through the mishaps and pitfalls of the game. Napoleon Total War is a little newer and has a better (yet still overall underwhelming) AI, and players pick it because the mechanics are a little more refined, it's less glitchy, and better for online play. The campaign isn't bad but certainly not as good as Empire Total War. If I were you I'd get Empire Total War and just have a blast because the game is so much fun, if you can live through some of the AI's stupidity it'll be well worth your money. Napoleon Total War is where you hone your tactical skills, trying to become a master player by winning online battles because it's more competitive.
@antred11
@antred11 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily call that a "feature".
@branmuffication
@branmuffication 8 жыл бұрын
this is why you don't agree to the no Artillery rule
@harold9061
@harold9061 9 жыл бұрын
He wasn't a camper, he was just a normal general of the french army. He was supposed to retreat.
@boubouthegeek62
@boubouthegeek62 6 жыл бұрын
lol Stay on your island and pay others for make war little brittish ;) It's the only good thing u do
@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima
@JSparo-TotalWarMachinima 6 жыл бұрын
And you're just a normal commentator of the troll army, you were supposed to ctrl C - ctrl V a joke for the 654687 time this day.
@frederickpasco7607
@frederickpasco7607 6 жыл бұрын
Spotted the american
@LordBrillo
@LordBrillo 6 жыл бұрын
So, that`s not very nice and absolutely not according to the historical facts, aye? ,-)
@ayyub9855
@ayyub9855 6 жыл бұрын
xxswagxx316 shut up the versailles treaty was the biggest shame in history and was a massive catalyst on why ww2 broke out
@daantjeeify
@daantjeeify 9 жыл бұрын
napoleon total war is like COD... Everyone goddam hill/base camps..
@JakeW117
@JakeW117 9 жыл бұрын
Daan van Loo Well whoever has the high ground has the advantage. Some battles, they'd stand on a hill for ages waiting for the other side to make a move. Eventually one side would get bored and devise a plan of attack.
@Duhya
@Duhya 9 жыл бұрын
JakeW117 But since its a multiplayer game, one side gets bored and decides it's not worth playing.
@Ms314159265358979323
@Ms314159265358979323 7 жыл бұрын
and i like defeating idiots like you who are breaking the rules... dont like the rules?? JUST GET OUT OF HERE...
@rangergxi
@rangergxi 9 жыл бұрын
Playing against campers is just annoying. Should probably avoid these people.
@Michael3851
@Michael3851 9 жыл бұрын
Loli21 For that battles with rules like ''no art'' its perfect for those kind of people!
@ovi8822
@ovi8822 9 жыл бұрын
Loli21 trust me just spam sword units and cav.
@Dumpster3211
@Dumpster3211 9 жыл бұрын
Loli21 What he should have done is, after pushing forward for so long, just find a spot to sit and hold his ground. If the timer runs out, so be it. At least the opponent will realize how annoying his strategy is.
@remithivierge8528
@remithivierge8528 9 жыл бұрын
joe john no, I don't think a camper can realize how annoying his strategy is, because if you start to do like them, they will start to say stuff like fight!!! coward! fight! They always do. -_- They get mad, because they are confused on what to do next and so when you win because you start camping like them, they say stuff like, you cheated! -_-
@rangergxi
@rangergxi 9 жыл бұрын
Rémi Thivierge Just claim the mid ground and wait.
@Dylangordon2012
@Dylangordon2012 9 жыл бұрын
I have a very odd love/hate relationship with the "No Arty" rule, at one moment i'm like "Err, well if they have Arty they'll kill all my men and then I wont get as much damage done." Then on the other hand i'm like "Damn, using Arty makes this so much more realistic AND lets me kill them before they get to me!" Is this just me or is it some others too?
@arkoa0000
@arkoa0000 9 жыл бұрын
_Phan Boyy_ Explosions do make everything a bit more fun ...except on the receiving end.... Believe Prussia had a saying about like "artillery adds elegance to what would be an ugly brawl" or something like that.
@willl676
@willl676 9 жыл бұрын
_Phan Boyy_ Explosions are fun, I mean come on just look at Michael Bay, the guy could be a pyrotechnician.
@auroraourania7161
@auroraourania7161 9 жыл бұрын
_Phan Boyy_ They also force whoever uses them to play more statically. You can't move to seize strategic areas because you are too slow, unless you only use horse artillery. The only real way to be mobile is to have a massive screening force to slow them down, and then you lack the line infantry to defend your artillery.
@antred11
@antred11 6 жыл бұрын
I don't have a love/hate relationship with the "No Arty" rule. I have a very simple and distinct full-on hate relationship with that retarded rule.
@redacted3557
@redacted3557 5 жыл бұрын
Nazi Doge boi u stole me name XD
@thenoobinator3508
@thenoobinator3508 7 жыл бұрын
how to beat an overly defensive player: artillery is the enemy intends to sit on his ass than we shall blast it to bits
@DroidC
@DroidC 7 жыл бұрын
The rules of the match was no arty IIRC
@thenoobinator3508
@thenoobinator3508 7 жыл бұрын
DroidC ik. that is why i dont really like no arty rules
@alfielp307
@alfielp307 9 жыл бұрын
You put up a good fight, man. Well done for doing so well against the kind of the opponent that put me off napoelon multiplayer entirely :)
@achillechabran3510
@achillechabran3510 8 жыл бұрын
21:15 "my parents are french" ... haha i knew there had to be something! you pronounce french troop names ways too well for an english speaker ;) great video though!!! keep it up!
@erwanmarie8756
@erwanmarie8756 6 жыл бұрын
Yup he does, except for Voltigeur "Voltijer"
@riadbenosmane1113
@riadbenosmane1113 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he has a good accent
@riadbenosmane1113
@riadbenosmane1113 4 жыл бұрын
@@erwanmarie8756 oui le français reste une langue difficile
@JasonCool588
@JasonCool588 9 жыл бұрын
"at the end of the day it's all about entertainment" Yes! Well said!
@Sam-gf6ue
@Sam-gf6ue 6 жыл бұрын
IANVS·POPLICOLA yeah and I presume the other guy is having fun
@TakaShin4252
@TakaShin4252 9 жыл бұрын
The reason your light foot were getting exhausted was because they were in loose formation. It happens to me sometimes so I'm guessing it's some sort of glitch
@mlorde8857
@mlorde8857 8 жыл бұрын
You have more staying power than I do. If I came across a player who refused to take an engagement or play without knowing for certain that they would have a flawless victory, I'd just note down their name, quit out and find another lobby. The nice thing about Total war is that you can just back out of games where players are just, not playing ball. And actually making it fun for both parties
@isekaiuniversalproductions6130
@isekaiuniversalproductions6130 9 жыл бұрын
Oakley, ur gonna need to get some payback as soon as u get back from vacation. All in all, awesome vid man. Keep up the great work. ;)
@taylorbeckett9686
@taylorbeckett9686 7 жыл бұрын
I may just be over analyzing the battle, and I agree that he was being a big camper but... You took the town on the hill super fast and had a hill. The guy probably decided right there to do his pull back game. As you inched closer, he got into a formation that made you spread out. He got his calvalry into more flat areas on your right while he waited on the left. He placed those spikes down so you wouldn't move forward on that side, leaving him room to move out later. He pushed your right hard with his special units and at one point started forming a C on your army. However I bet he didn't want this. If he pressed you in that formation your could've retreated back to the hill/town. So he pulled back and played his retreat game slowly turning his whole army to be in line with the town/hill that you initially took. By this time your army was grounded down to noodle lines and he didn't have to continue his move toward the big hill. Even with this 'strategy' looking at the nitty gritty, he did play the retreat game a lot.
@riddleboxranger
@riddleboxranger 9 жыл бұрын
Never heard a total war youtuber swear I LIKE IT :D
@harrysmyhomeboy
@harrysmyhomeboy 9 жыл бұрын
Sgt Artyom if you like swearing from your totalwar youtubers, you'll fall in love with Legendoftotalwar
@gonavygonavy1193
@gonavygonavy1193 8 жыл бұрын
Very good opponent, I like it. I like defensive and patient tactics.
@wouterv227
@wouterv227 9 жыл бұрын
Although sitting back like that may seem cheap and unfair. However, after a lot of hours and trying different mods on NTW I've realized that taking the initiative can pay off when you execute your battle plan more cohesively. I noticed you would send units forward one by one allowing them to get decimated by concentrated enemy fire. Try not to overlap your units either, I saw many of your lines were unable to fire effectively due to lack of organized unit deployment (some even friendly fired I think). Lastly, I would recommend seriously abusing flanks, if you have a free unit on your opponents flank rush very close to your opponent to get deadly close shots (only do this when they're not taking fire, obviously). Good luck on your next battle!
@TheTuberwatch
@TheTuberwatch 7 жыл бұрын
No sense complaining when the enemy camps, its war, they are just making full use of options. outplay them
@lollypoop8903
@lollypoop8903 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, literally no sense, you can just do the same, right? Just make full use of your options, after all, you can camp just like him!! Yes, yes, just gotta do that, if a stupid player camps, you just have to do it as well and you'll show him. This way, you're gonna fairly outplay him, right? If he camps, I camp as well, casue that's the ony fair thing to do, isn't it? Isn't camp a acceptable strategy for both of them? Or there's some rule saying only one cunt can do it? I think there isn't!! This way, the battle will surely have an end, even if both intelligent players who use all of their fair options never engage... right....? It's war, for god sake... not just a game... right....? Yeah, of course ¬¬
@swaggermcdagger9950
@swaggermcdagger9950 9 жыл бұрын
Your opponent was a really good player, it's just a shame he uses camping to win his games.
@liamphillips2271
@liamphillips2271 8 жыл бұрын
+Dot Red i like to play with arty but sometimes id rather not have it doesn't change how good i am at the game
@RobertWF42
@RobertWF42 8 жыл бұрын
A few fixes to the game engine to prevent camping: 1. Expand the size of the battlefield beyond the deployment zones so that players cannot anchor flanks on the edge of the map. 2. A more strategic level fix would be to allow players to either surround or else completely bypass camping armies and cut the army's supply line or restrict access to foraging. Once out of supply an army will be eliminated the following turn in a campaign game. Hunger and thirst will force camping players to be more aggressive!
@arkoa0000
@arkoa0000 9 жыл бұрын
Legit tactic in real war but incredibly cheap and in my opinion boring to camp in a game. I enjoy a battle regardless of winning or losing if its fun with charging my troops like a crazy commander high on glory and adrenaline but honestly while I do abide by "all is fair in war and love" its gets on my nerves when its these kinds of fights in a game.
@icostaticrebound6007
@icostaticrebound6007 9 жыл бұрын
What I see was that he was spreading his forces thin. You should've punched through the center with your infantry and wrapped around his flanks with your cavalry as he tried to pincer maneuver your forces, then spread out your infantry to make square formats while your cavalry are engaging theirs. But idk
@justthetip7
@justthetip7 9 жыл бұрын
In either the desert or the snow, light infantry continues to get more fatigued while in loose formation, even if they aren't moving. This applies to everyone except for the ottomans in the desert, and Russia in the snow.
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 7 жыл бұрын
But why?
@Anvilarm07
@Anvilarm07 9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful game. Thanks for posting. Chaseurs a Chaval seem over powered and I have read a lot of Napoleonic history and I have never once seen a reference to stakes versus cavalry. However I know games have mechanism for game play. May have to get this one. Steve
@Alex13501
@Alex13501 7 жыл бұрын
Thats why "no arty" rule is retarded. I maybe had the same mindset when i was 14 years old playing total war games. Playing with friends and some ranked multiplayer games in the latest total war warhammer taught me a lot. Its like playing command and conquer or starcraft like game and say "ok, no attacks first 15 minutes, then we all make big armies and fight". It can look good, but it just doesnt make sense, nor is that actually funny. Still remember though some epic fights we had in supreme commander, sadly, i never got in to the real serious multiplayer, but that game was awesome. So yea, no arty in 90% of games means = look at my box, my box is amazing...
@jacobcobb4498
@jacobcobb4498 9 жыл бұрын
I think the fun of TW game is seeing epic battles as armies collide or a epic siege of a city, not setting up camp and waiting for the opponent to come to you and telling them, "We don't like Arty because then we'll actually have to fight you guys instead of waiting."
@jacobcobb4498
@jacobcobb4498 9 жыл бұрын
Jacob Cobb I guess the way to stop that is just wait for them to come to you or just not play with them.
@remithivierge8528
@remithivierge8528 9 жыл бұрын
I just bought the game and going to play my first campaign, so I can learn some of the units. :) I'm pretty glade to get this one, because now, I have every one of the TW serie :)
@RayVitoles
@RayVitoles 6 жыл бұрын
Make the rule "The one who is covering more ground by the end of the time out,wins" This way you can just sit on the center of the map and force them to make a move
@583Thatguy
@583Thatguy 9 жыл бұрын
so when you run into people who want to play like this, go and sit on your side of the map and sit until it's a stalemate. Fuck em.
@V3r1taz
@V3r1taz 9 жыл бұрын
Well i get why you are annoyed by this playing style but to be perfectly honest? It's the best tactical choice a good general can make. Why waste your terrain advantage, why run into the fire of your enemy if you can hold your position and let the enemy come to you?
@mariscoazul
@mariscoazul 9 жыл бұрын
Its fair . but not fun , imagine both players doing it . I dont think i would feel victorius by winning likr that aganst an army of equal power
@kingofzero100
@kingofzero100 9 жыл бұрын
V3r1taz True, going defensive is a very good one, as it is tactical and allows for the best advantages. But its not fun. I can understand if you are coming down to fight and you are kinda forced on the defensive, but when the first thing you do with a army that is good, if not better, than your opponent, is go on a hill and wait, it kinda sucks the fun from the game. ( imo)
@TheAstalavista00
@TheAstalavista00 9 жыл бұрын
V3r1taz Camping is a valid tactic IF and ONLY IF the attacking player has the ability to counter it (in real life they do, no general charges a well defended enemy head on). So artillery should've been allowed.
@R.Specktre
@R.Specktre 9 жыл бұрын
That's why 18thC/ early 19thC armies always used artillery back then...situations like this game rarely happened in that Period.
@capicholob6379
@capicholob6379 9 жыл бұрын
That is not a cautious player,that type of generals are called campers
@AthanaSus
@AthanaSus 9 жыл бұрын
Capicholo B like The Duke of Wellington. Although in this scenario, the roles are reversed.
@Duhya
@Duhya 9 жыл бұрын
Diego Magsaysay Learn from history, and "retreat" (leave the game) if your up against a boring fuck like this.
@capicholob6379
@capicholob6379 9 жыл бұрын
Si es que guiri tenia que ser,a que si diego ?
@chap0syoutuification
@chap0syoutuification 8 жыл бұрын
+Diego Magsaysay Except Wellington was up against a much larger force. The forces here were reasonably even yet he still camped.
@gonavygonavy1193
@gonavygonavy1193 8 жыл бұрын
No, a proper, defensive-minded general. The best kind.
@Herbao69
@Herbao69 6 жыл бұрын
He beated you like a professional general hehehe. : )
@etloing5016
@etloing5016 7 жыл бұрын
I mean, he made you do what he wanted you to do. War tactics 101: when in defense, make them do what you want them to do. You never want to react in war, then you're playing their game. Its not very fun to watch but I do love seeing the attrition.
@michalsalekcz
@michalsalekcz 9 жыл бұрын
for me, camping is just another strategy. i think the player is allowed to do whatever he wants to win the battle. (as long as he doesnt break the set rules.) and this guy was a good player, not just your average "camper". his mechanics were certainly good and he knew what he was doing throughout the battle, so good job to him and good job to THFE for good game. i won a fall of the samurai battle against much higher rank by camping the ridgeline, hidden in trees. he positioned against me and then proceded to taunt me. i taunted him too and after 20 minutes of camping, i gambled if he was paying attention. i walked my yari ki, hidden, around the battlefield. after another 10 minutes i charged his tosa riflemen from behind and he insulted and ragequitted. i dont think campers are doing anything wrong. i believe they are doing all they can (in their abilities) to win the battle. when someone calls me a camper, i accept it. i dont see that as an insult.
@benjamin112
@benjamin112 9 жыл бұрын
I may be mistaken but you RAN your foot soldiers to meet him 0:00 to ~4:00?? Surely if they had marched then they wouldn't have been so tired? Just curious thanks! p.s. love the videos.
@Barthek
@Barthek 8 жыл бұрын
That is why I use artillery. To blast his units when he plays defensive like that.
@patrickmurphy9290
@patrickmurphy9290 9 жыл бұрын
Famous quote from this vid. "I don't know fuck it"
@jackcoulson9931
@jackcoulson9931 8 жыл бұрын
i love ur vids keep the good work up:)
@LHRStormKeeper
@LHRStormKeeper 8 жыл бұрын
About the description for this video; where's the honor? The honor is in knowing you did the sensible thing and made the other honor-hungry general tire his men out! :P
@vincentfalcone8802
@vincentfalcone8802 7 жыл бұрын
im glad you mentioned his name early on. i know to avoid such douchebag rules like no arty. also to set rules limiting cav cuz most online players arent about a fun engaging battle. they just want to win at any cost.
@MRB1157
@MRB1157 9 жыл бұрын
I would really love it if they increased the 10th hussars accuracy from 32 to something like 40 accuracy!
@kifird23
@kifird23 6 жыл бұрын
I hate people like this. I'm suprised you didn't lose professionalism within the commentary. If I was commentating, I would be screaming, & ranting about people like this. Thanks for the great clip!
@bashkillszombies
@bashkillszombies 6 жыл бұрын
What mods are you running btw? I wish someone would build a good modded version. I tried a few mods, most turned my install into cancer and required a full reinstall. :C
@thekameleon9785
@thekameleon9785 3 жыл бұрын
I bin in Egypt. Gizapyramids in hottest of summer. I dunno how anyone can fight a battle in that heat
@FrederickHohenzollern
@FrederickHohenzollern 9 жыл бұрын
The Light inf. gets tired because they are in Light inf. doctrine . I put them only in Light inf. Doctrine if they have to engage someone.
@militarian9759
@militarian9759 3 жыл бұрын
These battles hit home jeesh
@ondrejpfrogner
@ondrejpfrogner 9 жыл бұрын
Nice battle, but do a Rome II or Attila massive siege please, some big cities might be good (London, Ctesiphon or other).
@patmos09
@patmos09 7 жыл бұрын
Thought bullets went through terrain in napoleon- since so many troops shot straight into the dirt in empire?
@Athenian77
@Athenian77 9 жыл бұрын
Skirmish formation is making units get tired,always have your lights as a regular foot inf.formation until you ll need them,maps with extreme heat like pyramids,sunken jungle,etc etc,and maps with extreme cold like pyrenees peak causing troops to get tired very fast.There are some nations that can hold their physical condition for more time than others,for heat is the Ottoman empire,and for cold are the Russians,here you had your lights alll the time in skirmish formation,thats why they was exausted when you was ready to attack!
@jimcastor8601
@jimcastor8601 9 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about the stakes not working on the troops that put them out.
@lewismcdonald9691
@lewismcdonald9691 9 жыл бұрын
To beat ppl like that u have to push heavy on one flank with one or two meet shields and some heavy hitters backing them up to break his lines
@urbanpope
@urbanpope 9 жыл бұрын
Credit to you for not rage quitting.
@johnswain4992
@johnswain4992 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty much a new player and I have a hard time with micro control, and I usually lose track of everything going on. I generally use the mini map, but then I'm not availing myself of advantages of the slopes and angles of fire. To compensate I pack the army tight together and surge to a forward position to occupy in force, then I defend it until I feel like the enemy has bashed himself enough that I can lead a counterattack. Is that technically camping?
@stsk7
@stsk7 7 жыл бұрын
this is annoying. way to be the agressor even though you're at a big disadvantage
@MrHoeBow
@MrHoeBow 7 жыл бұрын
Ali Bubba No, that's called being an incompetent general.
@souljaboyeminem
@souljaboyeminem 9 жыл бұрын
I personally hate camping, this happens in COH as well -_- just get on it with & may the best general win
@n1gm499
@n1gm499 7 жыл бұрын
I think the lesson is to never play without arty
@Psalm144.1
@Psalm144.1 6 жыл бұрын
This is a game. Got it. However, I have to say there is an honorable way and or etiquette that was not observed. It's one thing if you go out and fight hard, but lose on one of your flanks or an important unit(s) and your Army's balance vs your opponent becomes significantly weaker, than it's honorable in the game to stake up a good defensive position. Also, artillery is a great tool to deal with excessively defensive timid players.
@jxuz4628
@jxuz4628 9 жыл бұрын
lol was watching an old vids bro i love your vids keep up the good work:)!!!!!hope i can play with u when i get the game?
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 9 жыл бұрын
Cameron Jackson I'm currently away from home but I try and jump between the various total war multiplayer lobbies during the week
@RavenHeadInn
@RavenHeadInn 9 жыл бұрын
Cameron Jackson Sure its on sale on steam at the mo :)
@SwordEncarmine
@SwordEncarmine 9 жыл бұрын
4v4 Barbarian Clash Between Babarian Power Houses would be cool
@TheQTWolf
@TheQTWolf 9 жыл бұрын
Attack in stages, so your men never get beyond warmed up...
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 4 жыл бұрын
I hope he wasn’t watching your video while you guys were playing! 🤔😏
@notangproductions7163
@notangproductions7163 6 жыл бұрын
"a couple limited to 3" uh, ok mate...
@Patriotsfan123321
@Patriotsfan123321 9 жыл бұрын
I've never played Napoleon total war, so correct me if im wrong, but how come there is no fore by rank feature for infantry like how it was in empire total war
@mrstarfishh33
@mrstarfishh33 9 жыл бұрын
The 17th line isn't an "elite old guard unit " its a better line unit. Comparable to swiss foot, slightly worse I believe.
@firefyfe6211
@firefyfe6211 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Oakley, just wanted to ask if you would be interested in doing NBS (Napoleonic Battle Simulation) which uses the historical battles on the NTW3 mod which are HUGE, ranging from 6,000 to 15,000 men on the field at once. NBS doesn't simulate how the battles occurred, its more of a "what if" scenario. What NBS does do is it adds a set of rules that make NTW less arcadey and adds quite a bit of balance and new strategy. As an example there's the Line Column Square rule: nwars.forumer.com/topic/104/NTW3-Historical-Battles-The-linecolumnsquare-LCS-rule#.VYxxUflVikp. Just wondering if that's your cup of tea, or anyone else's
@hippyjoe
@hippyjoe 9 жыл бұрын
To be honest, campers are tools, but more defensive and cautious players do have strategy on them. What most campers should start doing is move up half way to the mid ground and slowly creep up as to not gain exhaustion. When your troops wait and the enemy comes you should be 2/3 of the way to midpoint. Since the enemy has to travel farther, and will likely not move slowly as to point to point, they will be more exhausted, giving your troops more capability during the attack.
@Ohno0es
@Ohno0es 7 жыл бұрын
When he pulled back at 4:00 - I knew enough. Sad, because with the little micro-play with his cavalry just before that he showed he was a competent player and turned out to be such a disappointment. At least engage on one flank/part of the battlefield.
@ashleyward5933
@ashleyward5933 9 жыл бұрын
Got empire for the free weekend and no ones online :( first time I have had chance to play
@alexccccc7854
@alexccccc7854 9 жыл бұрын
That's why I just defend everything.
@adamanderson4819
@adamanderson4819 9 жыл бұрын
Even in video games the French still retreat a lot, Kappa. Seriously though, was it really that hard to focus fire on the French cavalry or did he be REALLY REALLY precise and cautious with his raids so that they were in-between volleys of multiple line units.
@state14
@state14 9 жыл бұрын
love these videos more pls :)
@alexcc8664
@alexcc8664 9 жыл бұрын
Use Scots Greys to counter his car. They never let me down.
@lumburgapalooza
@lumburgapalooza 8 жыл бұрын
You don't get to play with no artillery and then bitch about people using defensive positions. Artillery's primary purpose is to coax out defenders from fortified positions by pressuring them at extreme range, forcing them to close the gap, and to open up holes in formations. The maps with fortifiable starting positions were created with artillery in mind. OF COURSE a stagnant defensive position is going to be more advantageous when using guns.
@squafps
@squafps 9 жыл бұрын
I just got Napoleon and I'm still figuring out which units r best for me lol
@marlouenriquez4209
@marlouenriquez4209 8 жыл бұрын
... i think you were playing against mayweather
@HNW00
@HNW00 9 жыл бұрын
Pyramids is such a hard map :P
@cadetlaventure3527
@cadetlaventure3527 9 жыл бұрын
Do you speak french ? because when you sayed the name of the unit at the beginning, it sounded like a french :D
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 9 жыл бұрын
Cadet Laventure Yeah my parents are french
@cadetlaventure3527
@cadetlaventure3527 9 жыл бұрын
Really cool man !
@MRB1157
@MRB1157 9 жыл бұрын
The reason why are your light infantry was extremely tired, because light infantry units formed into light infantry behaviour cannot catch their breath, and I have no idea why that is a thing!
@sinaonur2658
@sinaonur2658 7 жыл бұрын
Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl. Frederick II, you shouldn't complain about enemy not attacking if you dont have the artillery to force him to attack.
@wongnigel1158
@wongnigel1158 9 жыл бұрын
Been reading "Waterloo" by Bernard cornwell lately, one of the best book (non- fiction) i have read i reckon. Wish there could be some sort of remade/ break down of strategy of the battle by you.
@zodiacpkd7555
@zodiacpkd7555 9 жыл бұрын
Omg I'm reading his Saxon stories Waterloo is next on my list to get by him
@wongnigel1158
@wongnigel1158 9 жыл бұрын
Uhtred died
@marshallamb4744
@marshallamb4744 5 жыл бұрын
Man, it was your mistake to attack his army. You should have kept the high ground and waited for him to make the first move. There was a timer in the game. If you hadn't attacked him, the battle would have ended in a draw.
@CoD_Kuro
@CoD_Kuro 6 жыл бұрын
ah I love to beat this kind of players... if you want to beat a french elites, use those bonny scots(highlanders and blackwatch) very effective at melee
@jamesjk1234
@jamesjk1234 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen him defeated
@German_K5
@German_K5 9 жыл бұрын
i hate those guys, they just bring bunch light skimishers and pull back all the time.
@mrstarfishh33
@mrstarfishh33 9 жыл бұрын
If you want to control the battle, and prevent this bring some arty.
@fakename1545
@fakename1545 9 жыл бұрын
The "Fuck you, I do what I want" strategy. And I'm legitimately confused here. Why do people play games like this if not to win and emulate the military experience? Is it the rush of moving forward? Don't have the time to do it properly? Why is it fun if you aren't doing it correctly and trying to win above everything else?
@SuperMage21
@SuperMage21 7 жыл бұрын
In Empire stakes kill regardless of team... Never played much of Napolean
@IronMoose95
@IronMoose95 9 жыл бұрын
so much sodium. sorry Oakley
@kurtsell8376
@kurtsell8376 9 жыл бұрын
Why do you use columns to move? And why does nobody use cannons?
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 9 жыл бұрын
kurt sell often the host will say that the rules are no artillery. When there is no artillery, it can be more efficient to move men in column formation without risking being shelled
@Vampmonkey616
@Vampmonkey616 8 жыл бұрын
If you need to go to your opponent, fair enough...but why make them run all the way? In the desert no less
@Pazzystar
@Pazzystar 9 жыл бұрын
where are the goddamn cannons
@jimisablon1552
@jimisablon1552 9 жыл бұрын
can u do a rome II video with u as the romans in citydefence vs 2 suebians
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