RANT: EverQuest's WORST Problem!

What is the WORST problem that EverQuest has?
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[@gardyloogubbins]

From everything I hear, TLPs just don’t sound fun for the way I want to interact with EQ. I want to relive my nostalgic favorite game, group with folks, explore all the zones and dungeons, and have fun with the lore. What I don’t want to do is race to the max level as fast as I can, “sticking to the plan” and ignoring content, raiding a few targets over and over, and doing so in a game whose mechanics, zones and community structure have been changed from what I played in the past.

[@nulltheworm]

The best you're going to do is play on P99 when they release a new server, or to join Project Quarm right now and just play the game, meet people, and explore Norrath.

[@demris15]

Always appreciate your content and your viewpoint. I tried the last 2 TLPs, and mostly because of the issues you mentioned (boxing and time crunch) I don’t see myself going back.

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for the compliment Demris. Hopefully something will be done.

[@markjamison93]

You are absolutely correct. Krono is the reason I quit.

[@Treklosopher]

That was pretty hilarious. I'm with you about Krono farmers. I quit Thornblade because of it and I was one of Vetus Equites lead raid tanks.

[@sabra401]

I’m in this video lol, great playing with you Ayonic glad you replaced our enchanter!

[@axey7476]

Bro you been killing it with vids lately Been watching all the vids from the last weeks Keep it up!

[@IonBlaze1]

THank you for the compliments Axey :)

[@TheMattizAlizard]

I'm back and in the game more than I ever have been on Bristle. I'm having a lot of fun playing with a small group! I hope things can circle back around and continue to improve. We try to leave the game better than we found it :)

[@TristanTucker05]

really been digging your videos lately - good way to pass the time at work!

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for swinging by Tristan :)

[@Waresdom]

I'm a player from 15 years ago and got excited to see TLP servers. Brings back a lot of memories. I talked a few of my friends to come back and play. We saw the krono option and got a little nervous about it. We are in our 40's right now and haven't experienced too many issues yet. There was a time in Unrest where someone was pulling the whole zone. At the moment we are enjoying Yelinak and have met some nice people to play with. Time will tell to see where it goes. Enjoy your stories and videos. Thanks!

[@FerrisZzZzZ]

Hey man, I really enjoy your editing style! You do a good job storytelling with your gameplay and kept it interesting, all while working in a good discussion about the TLP servers. It's a really good pace that is super easy to watch! My 2¢ about EQ TLP.. I was an active raider in a "hardcore" batphone style guild spanning Ragefire/Phinigel/Agnarr TLP servers. At that time, it was mostly kronolord boxers (using VMware to run a ton of characters) fighting it out against our most dedicated members. We usually had 24/7 watch over open world targets with a few of our guys taking turns scouting, then we batphone the spawn and hope we mobilize fast enough to get the target. Most of the time, we would end up in a training war with the boxer while we tug-of-war the boss to death. Eventually after months of battling it out, agreements were arranged with some of the kronolords to not step on each others feet if we could avoid it. The "DPS is king" wild west style rule does have some fun in it. There's a lot of freedom and gameplay involved in fighting for high end open world targets. It's definitely for a very small part of the EQ TLP audience, but it puts a smile on my face remembering the 4am batphone DPS races that we clutched out. That being said, you're absolutely spot on about casual players being the ones who miss out the most with the TLPs existing like this. The majority of the EQ TLP audience will struggle with boxers bullying them out of zones and forcing them to depend on instance lockouts for loot. It's unfortunate that it sounds like krono farmers are becoming more of a problem than they may have been a few years back, but I appreciate the game for what it is. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but the game would improve a lot if they could step it up on disciplining people that take it too far with cheating, zone monopolizing, and circumventing true-box rules.

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for spending the time to make this awesome comment. Had no clue about the agreements that were made lol.

[@deavonw]

Great video. It's been a fun journey to watch so far sort of a shame it's over so soon!

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for the compliment :)

[@Calmethar.]

A solution could be if all the friendly-minded community was actually able to get together and e.g. vote on the most desired new type of server to make, and then was actually able to make it. E.g. "Classic to Luclin", or the like, with some of the most desired QoL features implemented. P99 is good, but it's still a sort of TLP with the timed changes along the way. Another option could be to just choose what are most desirable from day one, instead of the P99 approach of "re-creating the exact old timeline of EQ". I very much like P99, and still actively enjoy playing there, but I think there are better options, which we've still not seen any emulated server make use of. In that sense, P99 is quite "stuck in its ways", if you like. Only the community can change that by making an even better server catering to all the communities best interests with friendliness and the social aspect in mind. That might never happen though.

[@demris15]

Agreed… I don’t love p99 because it’s exact to the era, I love it because the difficulty is the same, the zones are the same. They could add instances and faster xp for groups and I’d be happy

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for sharing that solution. I like the voting concept :)

[@Calmethar.]

​@@IonBlaze1 Aye, it more or less has to be by highest demand. Otherwise voting is just the majority forcing the rest though ;-)

[@shivur5073]

yes the runescape approach

[@Feracitus]

@@demris15 p99 xp is already alot faster than classic was tho.

[@LOLjerel]

I don’t play EverQuest but I enjoy watching these vids. I play RuneScape so I sometimes relate to the stuff your talking about. Either way, I like the vids you put out. Rock on man 🤘

[@xkallubar]

Lol seeing taxman use their evil powers for good was hilarious.

[@antondovydaitis2261]

When I read the comments about Taxman taking out the Krono Farmers, I assumed the IRS had gone after their real life revenue. Either way, Karma hurts.

[@nickjohnson9640]

Not to be that guy; but didn’t you buy a couple fungi’s with krono for your mnk/shm duo a few series back ?

[@ramblingryan6466]

I am LOVING your videos... I also played a bard back in the day - when 1999 WAS 1999. I played when Kunark was the expansion. I was also a Bard, played up to 63 - with the epis Singing Short Sword. Quit with the planes of Power expansion. Will continue to watch as long as you play and upload.

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for the compliment fellow Bard :)

[@Rage-_-Quit]

Ah yes the good old bard days, half the party is dead, you're holding 3 mezzes and 1 charm and someone goes "manasong pls"

[@MrThree15]

40 more minutes! Let's gooooo!

[@dova1072]

I love kronos since I dont like paying IRL cash for game time, but I hate how it controls the market. I kinda wanna quit tlp since people like Fipp sells water staffs for 10 - 12 kronos each. Its not fun to deal with boxers since ive been fcked over a lot by Eqcorp (they trained my group in hole since they wanted our camp) or they forcefully take our camp to take the camp since it gives kronos I also hate how they say "Camps dont exist", sure daybreak doesnt officially support it but it ruins the game to not have camps. It makes it unfun to just fight people for mobs

[@IonBlaze1]

Ooof that sucks. I heard EQcorp was doing that kind of stuff.

[@j4gul4r]

Awesome videos Ion. Flatts videos were great but yours are by far my favorite to watch. Your editing makes them great fun and suspenseful. Thanks for voicing your concerns but Daybreak is just milking the EQ community. Have you tried Mischief? Let me know if you ever do.

[@IonBlaze1]

I did play on thornblade for a bit. It was pretty fun with the loot pinata. Thank you for the compliments :)

[@proudpatriot3491]

Way back when I was first playing EverQuest my good buddy was helping me farm plat at the Hill Giants on his druid. I told some other random to "leave" and I got a GM called in on us and my buddy and the GM scolded me. That's a bit much but today it's the wild west.

[@IonBlaze1]

What a contrast you paint there lol

[@jaredsmith3232]

Great video. I miss EQ, I can’t find time to play anymore. Also what would be so hard about a TLP that has ever class unlocked from the start.

[@IonBlaze1]

People have been asking for all classes forever! I think Vaniki was the closest we got. I think it started with the exp that opens up beserkers.

[@calvin6449]

Saddest day I've had in a long time in terms of gaming was joining one of the first time locked servers. Only to have 800 mage bot accounts rush through everything. My friends and I all rolled ogres. Had the best time until mid 20s. Then... Mage bots and monetization. So sad.

[@seanheisey8645]

Ok seriously repeated question, for a returning player wanting to play Yelinak, is it difficult to find leveling groups at this point?

[@casrogue]

yes and no they are still on kunark many lizard characters just started ..later on on luclin same for cats ...after luclin yea ,..dead newbie zones ..

[@Dadaph]

I didn't even know what a hrono was when I started Yelinak, but I hate them. Monetizing a game is fair, but I'm already playing a subscription fee here. I may just make the game worse for myself, but I refuse to touch them. A bit more worried about keeping up, but I've already experienced the content up to PoP, so hopefully, if I can get to a decent level at that point, I'll be able to experience each expansions as they come out just to see what it was about.

[@IonBlaze1]

Oh you should be good. You generally got til about Velious/Luclin to get near max.

[@a5noble2]

"The enchanter left the group for the dumbest reason ever!" - me who plays an enchanter and leaves groups for dumb reasons all the time...

[@IonBlaze1]

Haha :)

[@bobbyt9431]

Yeah it's basically why I don't play on TLPs anymore. The toxic no life player base that is addicted to stacking kronos (gotta be pretend rich when you fail in real life I suppose) and no effort to do anything about it.

[@IonBlaze1]

Let's hope something is done to limit this crap :)

[@MClaudiusMarcellus]

Taxman went out in a blaze of glory, respect.

[@IonBlaze1]

Lol! What a way to do it :)

[@kurticusmaximus]

This taxman story was hilarious. He was coming to collect Fipp’s farming taxes. The IRS finally doing it’s job!

[@IonBlaze1]

That is a great way to put it lol. I wonder if they report their krono sales to the IRS lol.

[@Skrimpish]

If you can instance all zones i dont get how krono farming is a thing?

[@Viktir123]

This rant is logical and well thought-out. I don't play on a TLP server but it sucks that you guys who enjoy those servers have to deal with this.

[@LordBelmont777]

So have you seen then new TLP ruleset? there is mob tagging system which really slows the DPS is king issue

[@KopeAcetic]

Ion I would like to recommend a way of playing on a TLP that at least partly ignores the jerks camping epic pieces. I have a group that started this way on Aradune and we're still playing, and to be honest this is the most fun I've ever had in EQ - and especially with raiding: Get a very small crew and everyone 1 or 2 boxes depending on their preference - pretty much all of us 2 boxes because it doubles our personal power but it's not mandatory, some of us still 1 box. We started with 5 people in classic and had a few people join and leave throughout the 2+ years so far, and we currently have 10 people on our regular raid roster. Why does this change things? 1) You have to learn how the raid encounters actually work, and figure out ways to beat the encounters without just throwing more people at it. 2) Every action everyone does in a raid matters - everyone counts on everyone else and it raises the bar. 3) You don't have to do anything that you don't want to do - don't want to do 15 epic fights to get epics for those new members that might never show up to raids? Don't have to worry about it! 4) Everyone has agency in the guild - you're a small crew, talk about what you want to do instead of having to worry about command structures. 5) You don't have to deal with the krono farmers (as much) because you can get everything you need from instances because your requirements are so low by virtue of player numbers. You might not be able to do all the cutting edge content, but every boss kill feels SO much sweeter because of the investment needed, and we've found our gear is generally better than a lot of people in the big guilds because we have such a smaller pool of bodies that even the rare drops that typically everyone always wants - everyone gets eventually.

[@IonBlaze1]

Oh that's a really cool way to play. Thank you for sharing that KopeAcetic :)

[@TheHTMLCode]

I'd agree with this, I've been playing with 5 buddies and we all 4-6 box (legitimately)...we're currently clearing all of Omens of War and its been really chill to casually work our way through progression every expansion (on Mischief, the free trade is great for gearing boxes out quickly). I gave up with playing a single toon many years ago due to the exact problems you mentioned!

[@The304Podcast]

Love the video, it’s funny to me to watch people talk about the EQ issues of today, back in 1999 before there was play guides forums and people knew what to do and such, that’s the play period that can never be reproduced. I remember my NECRO glitching and falling off the boat and drowning in the ocean…..had like 3 hours to get my body back before I lost everything….was a magical time lol

[@IonBlaze1]

I didn't think about that. People have been complaining since the start lol. Thank you for the comment :)

[@The304Podcast]

@@IonBlaze1 well and something else to consider to, back in 1999 was a period of civility and comradeship online. That’s what gave birth to the trolls and keyboard warriors of today. It was pretty pure back then, people willing to help and play nice. But as the internet gained momentum and MySpace hit, you saw that turn extremely ugly.

[@jordanhalsey2778]

i used to doordash. the reason its hard to get 1 milk shake is because the order is not worth the time to pick up. if you want to get a milkshake you need to tip like 20 dollars or the dasher is going to decline the order in favor of the big 4 meal dinner worth a 20+ dollar tip. its just econ, 1 milkshake is not worth anyone's time even when the tip is 30% because the total amount is less than the gas used (maybe)

[@slickdog78]

SoE actually cared about their customers back in those days. That's why I 100% refuse to pay to play EQ. I'll stick to p99.

[@spig3547]

As for instances, I feel they need to either make the amount of people needed much lower or they need to allow people to open an instance so long as they have enough people to keep it open.

[@sithil]

So I have a Lvl 53 Shm on Yeli. My 2nd month from eating Krono ended last week. I didn't re-up and as more days past, the less likely I am to return. Krono farmers have been a pain since Ragefire, and are the reason most of us stop playing before Luclin. Every TLP I've stayed on for longer than 2 months, I took a break during Kunark, came back towards the end if Velious (when krono farming has started to wither away) and enjoyed the game again from that point on. I could see 1 way to lesson the effect of krono farming which then lowers attrition rates would be to make krono not tradeable until say Luclin, just like they removed focus effects til then.

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for that idea chase. Didn't even consider no-trade krono.

[@DrewLonmyPillow]

The only slightly offensive slang for milkshake I could find was "breasts".

[@jeffkoenig7402]

I'm sorry, your local gas station is named WHAT AGAIN?!?

[@IonBlaze1]

Lol I thought the same thing when I came out here.

[@scottnelson2049]

I never took breaks from EQ longer than 2 years going back to launch in '99 and I played every round of TLPs until Agnarr when I finally had enough of the BS with the zone and camp monopolization because of Krono. Haven't paid a dime to play EQ since.

[@cattysplat]

This is the problem I have with almost every multiplayer video game these days, everyone is LARPing being a pro nolife gamer. Let alone MMOs which turn it up a notch because of RMT and 30 year old boomer playerbase who are time poor but money rich, still wanting to play the games of their youth with the best gears in the game. What happened to playing games for fun? What happened to moderating your game? I miss the days gaming wasn't measured by the size of your wallet, but the skills and teamwork of what you did ingame. As a European these RMTers are even worse because half of European countries are poor, so their people earn garbage wages for even professional jobs, so our games are filled with people who essentially work games to sell items and services to earn a living from richer European countries.

[@beauthestdane]

Yep, Krono are a pox upon EQ. I say that although I have a few guildies who would be unable to play without the ability to buy them from other players with plat.

[@beauthestdane]

I play on a regular server, always have, and I still hate what the monetization has done. To be fair, even before Krono people farmed plat to sell for cash, so it's not really a new problem, but seems to be exacerbated on TLP servers. No real experience on there, I just could never bring myself to start over on a new server.

[@wolfdar2009]

First time I ever cheered the Taxman.

[@IonBlaze1]

Haha I love the comment Wolfdar :)

[@AndyM_323YYY]

So if you can do everything you want on Live except the lowbie zones are all empty, then don't you just need to organise enough people starting together on the same Live server at the same time? And you can do it FTP?

[@CelestianGC]

KR is why I stopped playing Mischief and it was amazing otherwise. KR has ruined the game entirely for me.

[@toxic_voxix9541]

played EQ from 2001 till wow came out 2004 and it was some of the best times I had in mmo's. I tried replaying but it's so weird for me now.

[@EviI_Chicken]

the wow token, osrs bond was the final nail in the coffin for these rereleases

[@ffbeexaid4509]

For me the best days of EQ was when planes of power came out then it was all downhill from there.

[@lifetrees1]

This reminds me of my druid’s “heroic” evac and AOE roots to prevent wipeouts.

[@Parasite_Eve_1776]

I'm new to this but I started on oak tlp and mobs are encounter locked so I think that fixes a lot of these problems

[@michaelmorton6566]

Man you have maps in game back in my day we had to memorize the place or get lost

[@wyomoto1349]

Sony got sued many many years ago because expansions plus free subscription for guides was “payment” and wasn’t minimum wage. They had to pay out many many thousands of dollars to all their guides minimum requires hours of volunteering so they will never do guides again.

[@brockkies8566]

I just started on Yelinak about a month ago. It's not my first TLP, but the first one I have really played hard. With the intention of maxing level and maybe an alt. I leveled my Wizard to 60 in about 3 weeks. Mostly grouping. This was a little more than a month before Luclin is supposed to launch. I didn't run into many problems. Probably because it isn't new anymore. I'm sure at the beginning things were worse. But these TLPs have instances as well. Which make it possible to get most of the targets you need without being pushed out by box farmers. Made a lot of friends, got into a guild full of great people. Having a blast. Haven't ran into many if any of the problems your talking about. You deal with all these problems when you decide you're going to race to the top of the pile. In that pile is the elite or the cheat. I don't have the time to devote to that kind of a thing. So starting late probably helped more than anything. Got my Wiz 60, halfway done with epic, started an Enchanter and he is level 30. Enjoying it a lot right now. It's a lot of fun when you take fast and furious out of the equation and just enjoy it.

[@iindiar]

there is no agent of change for phinny?

[@everquestfootpad6975]

I don’t know Ion. The way you describe, it just hasn’t been my experience as I’ve progressed past the Classic era. During the early stages of Mangler, I did not have any problems dealing with Krono farmers. Granted it still happened, but I was able to get six different 1.0s without running into these issues. Fast forward, we’re in Veil of Alaris right now, and I see no Krono farming at all and no mage box armies. They’ve also made keying easier during Luclin and PoP eras. So the competition for key mobs isn’t as bad as it used to be. They also have catch-up mechanics for people entering a TLP at a later expansion designed for those characters to gain experience at a faster rate. We’ve had players in my guild that have taken breaks from the game for several expansions only to come back, get to max level, and get many of their class specific AAs within a few weeks.

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for coming by & the comment. Yeah a lot of these farmers stick to the first 3 expansions. It's nice keying was made more convenient. That's where a lot of rude behavior happened back in the day.

[@montecorbit8280]

@IonBlazeGaming Basically the problem with EverQuest right now, is DayBreak games? Did I understand you correctly??

[@douglaswilliams6834]

Hey man that sucks about the Phinny farmers. I have to admit that, when I was trying to finish my mage epic at level 66 (it was actually becoming useless at that point, as the 66 pet is as good as, or better than the epic pet, but I still wanted to finish it) I bound myself down in the "Phinny pit" and had him on a timer until I finally got my epic piece, lol. Anyway, as I mentioned in another one of your videos, live servers now have instanced versions of old raid zones, so no more bottlenecks of farm groups locking down old raid targets. Agents of Change is what you want to Google. Are these not on the TLP servers also?

[@GES1985]

My opinion: their *worst* mistake was spreading the games geography too thin. Instead of letting the game evolve with the player base (I'm looking at you, kunark firiona vie still under construction!), they turned virtually every zone into an unused ghost town. Big games are great, if you have enough people to fill them.. I wonder when the last kelethin drunken race was? I'm sure the towns folk miss the good ol days. Lol. What they should have done, is had things like this: endgame raid: crushbone orcs trying to burn down kelethin, and playing as good or evil, you can join that raid from either side. If crushbone wins, greater fay becomes a high level orc zone, and they attack felwithe next, then kaladim, etc.. T1/T2/T3 etc. Have this for Guk, and Blackburrow, and all the other starting cities enemies battling each other for control of the zone(s)... or something!

[@IonBlaze1]

That's an interesting take on reusing zones. I like how you put it here. I mention a similar problem on ep4

[@xkallubar]

There was an event similar where evil and good players fought over several zones including the invasion of grobb i think, and kithicor forest.

[@IonBlaze1]

@@xkallubar oh that sounds awesome. Nice to see you xkallubar

[@Elderos5]

I spoke on the video yesterday about how on the team PvP server, Vallon Zek, it was all about zone control. Early on in the server, before there where any lvl 50s, two groups from my team, the dark team, decided to raid Crushbone. We gated in with the help of two wizards, invised up and ran around the edge of the zone, to avoid notice. We then ran into Crushbone and went to work. We set up at the zone line and proceeded to kill any elf that zoned in. It did not take long for the call to arms went out. "Darkies in Crush!" As the reenforcements began to trickle in the combat heated up. I managed to kill an Enchanter and looted his ring. I then fought some others but being the lowest in our groups, I did not get another kill. The battle lasted about 15 or 20 minutes. I nearly killed a paladin, but by then they had numbers to help them and we all died. It was a glorious battle. We looted our corpses and left G Fay. It was a player rule, if you died in PvP, you loot then scoot. You where expected to leave the zone for about an hour. This was the rule for about the first 3 years of the server. It was this control of zones that kept everything fresh. There were some places that you could almost alway find a fight and people would sit and wait for them, every day. If EQ was slightly modified, it could be a rocking PvP conquest game.

[@blake33x]

I don't think they spread too thin early on, there were just certain points of interest, and the connecting zones were literally just that: connecting zones. So people funneled to interesting content, I don't think anything is inherently wrong with that.

[@cory8619]

Daybreak: *Fixes powerleveling and kill stealing issue with FTE/Oakwynd* ¾ of players: ....*SCREEEEECH*

[@tenid4824]

@ 15:34 , i remember this guy, he was in SolB, right? i got there with my clan, etc. we won but i didnt win the loot.

[@jeffkoenig7402]

21:50 Bye Felicya! (Sorry, couldn't help it.)

[@Nanan00]

Back in 1999 the bard mez songs did not have level caps, they just got harder to land with bigger level disparity.

[@WhyYouAskingMe]

I would pay at least $100 / month sub to play on a premium TLP that had active GM enforcement of play nice rules, no microtransactions of any kind, no krono, stronger anti-cheat, true box only, and make ShowEQ impossible. I would pay $150/month sub if they brought back the original Freeport.

[@a5noble2]

Shit if i won the lottery I'd hire full time GMs for the p99 server. Pay them a yearly salary too.

[@jeffkoenig7402]

I mean, I miss old Freeport but I don't $600 a year miss it

[@eideticex]

ShowEQ and mapping stuff isn't a problem at all. All that does is show you information currently loaded into your game. ShowEQ does it through watching the information come across the network, the alternatives do it by reading it straight out of EQ memory. Keep in mind EQ devs are of the mind you can read memory all you want as long as you don't tamper with it in what few clear statements about their stance we have got. However it is dumb the client receive that much information about the zone, it should really just receive stuff within a specific radii and some static entities for emotes and events. Having used ShowEQ and MQMap off and on throughout the time I played EQ, it doesn't give you any edge at all, you still have to be able to act upon the info you got and most of the time you check a zone to see someone is already on the stuff you were thinking of going after. The real problem is that there are entire cheat communities built around abusing specific setups of plugins for MQ2 to do a lot of what we're seeing here. None of those plugins are hard to detect, don't even need tools really, just observation of the player. Very few, if any are used by more legitimate players that are just looking for QoL enhancements. If the EQ devs wanted to or were allowed to, they could utilize the MQ2 bindings themselves, the function signatures are very well known and that's all you really need to find a function loaded into your process. Track and/or take down whatever they choose to find against the games rules with as much granularity as they want.

[@WhyYouAskingMe]

@@eideticex I owned and admin'd a server for a game that was released in 2018 for about 6 months. That game to this day still suffers from what they call ESP which is the same thing ShowEQ does. Like you said, the server sends all the location data for the entire loaded area to the client. Instead of just sending what is in "line of sight" to the player. Prior to being a server owner I was a player of that game for about a year. After being a server owner and realizing how many people were cheating and how much it impacted gameplay and gave an unfair advantage. I shut down the server and quit the game. ShowEQ gives a massive advantage to people in Swamp of No Hope camping VP key ground spawns, camping AJ in Firiona Vie, and to any guild wanting a prayer at getting open world Trak. ShowEQ showing you other players locations can let you assess a pickzone and spawn / camp competition in minutes instead of relying on inaccurate camp checks or spending time going to see for yourself. Going to Swamp of No Hope and throwing an item on the ground and watching dozens of people immediately run to me was pretty eye opening. The player / guild not using ShowEQ is at a severe disadvantage in all of those situations.

[@NecoANONYMOOSE]

wheres ep 4 is everything ok

[@briancuprisin4571]

How long have you been playing on TLPs? And it took you this long to do a video on this? Good lord man.... This is precisely the reason I haven't played in years.

[@Drelk0001]

Love the videos! I think that's why I play on TLPs over P99. I actually am the leader of a guild on Yelinak I turn a blind eye to the krono farmers and toxic players because I realize I'll get that anywhere. Even P99 has toxic players and cheaters, With the exception of Krono farmers, But people still box and cheat yadayadayada. It's just not NEARLY as rampant on P99. I leveled a Necro to the mid 50s on Green and I had to solo most of it. Because "why would you group when you get faster XP soloing?" also "You're a Necro, Just go solo" My response was always "Because EQ is a community based game" It's about the friends and community. But also, I have a job, Kids, a life outside of EQ. The QoL of the TLPs is awesome for me. I love instanced raiding and every TLP I have the ability to try the content I never had before. It's awesome. And the wholesomeness of the "Punishments" make me chuckle. I wanted to see the spicy smoothie. :P

[@IonBlaze1]

Thank you for the kind words VicZero :)

[@robkirkpatrick6856]

I used to 12+ box on Progression servers - not for profit, or to establish a monolpoly on drops. I probably completed 20+ Dain Ring #9 for guildies - who would sometimes offered a krono, or power level them in Seb Jugs while farming spells for the guild etc... (and would often receive 1 krono tip for 8+ hours). Not every multi-boxer disrupts the game. i respected camps and would often move on if real groups wanted a partciular camp i was at. I also enjoyed camping testing halls in Temple of Veeshan. I liked to dungeon crawl by myself, or completing my own epics. Not all Boxers are nobs.

[@lukasfehrwight4247]

They enabled autoskill from level 1 on TLP's.

[@beauthestdane]

I agree that EQ is basically in maintenance mode, and they are just milking it for all it's worth at this point. I have been losing interest in it for a while now, I expect to quit by next expansion at best.

[@IonBlaze1]

Joke forum post recently. Planning on winning big in lottery. What changes do you want lol?

[@beauthestdane]

@@IonBlaze1 Honestly, I think it is way too late for them to really fix it short of restarting from scratch.

[@DannyWelch]

Agree 100%. Krono is the worst thing to happen to EQ. Unfortunately, it was probably a necessary evil to keep it afloat, but I like to think there were other ways to stay solvent that are less toxic.

[@tarilen]

Good luck and congratulations on being a dad! I can tell you from my own experience this is only a temporary good bye. We'll see you again soon!

[@hawx0r]

Rulesets are pretty crucial to how a TLP will survive or not. I feel like Oakwynd's ruleset and instancing stop a lot of the problems brought up here. Of course, Oakwynd's main issue now is that they had a plat dupe exploit three months ago that they patched out but didn't roll the server back, so the economy's been absolutely destroyed and everyone's waiting for the new TLP in a month or two.

[@christophertaylor9100]

I mean, there are far older problems with EQ but yeah that would suck too.

[@alexgorron6470]

Yeah, epic pieces should have Agent of Change so farmers can't grief an entire server for kronor farming.

[@einer1314]

Most Mcdonald's I know haven't had chocolate in over a decade, maybe they brought it back.

[@alphadragongamingFTW]

Well Daybreak could bring back the guide program. It was all volunteer and back in the day it kept things in check. There were several guides per server and a main GM above them for a server. I remember several times we had problems with KSing groups and within minutes after petitioning in game the guide had apparently shown up invis to watch and ended up appearing and caused them to LD and get kicked out of the zone and game with a warning.

[@Ivan_Ooze]

my dream is a tlp with 6 months between expansions and no krono allowed on the server until OoW. instead of playing for a month per server i would stick around of a year or 2. i would have time to enjoy the game and not worry about grinding as fast as possible

[@pretzelbrow]

genuine question: if there is a krono farmer locking down phinny, couldn't you just leave and make your own instance to fight phinny and not allow the krono farmers into that new instance?

[@gourdy6297]

my theory on food uber dont like to deliver ice cream

[@blahlbinoa]

Krono is the same as the WoW token, and blizzard is doing nothing to stop it either. Now I'm kinda worried about continuing playing, because I do want to go for my epic, but if sellers are strangleholding it, it feels hopeless to play. I'm going casual on Yelinak, and I'll eventually get a guild and do raiding (which I couldn't in the past because my comp would blow up when doing it) but it seems pointless almost with what's being described

[@IonBlaze1]

It's still doable if your raid targets can be instanced. The parts you have to get in open world are rough.

[@dannydsa3978]

im glad i had an older cousin who had this when i was only 13, no game has given me the same feels as EQ over the last 20 years WoW was good but EQ is still king in my book i dont think a game will come out that has this same effect on people it feels like being apart of EQs history is a once in a lifetime feeling id love to find a static group to restart this, because i cant imagine soloing since most classes are ass at it, and i have no experience with boxing

[@geekverve]

I agree that the accelerated expansion release schedule is a significant reason I quit playing on TLPs, but krono is the biggest reason, and it's not even close. The sad part is that, if there were no krono, there would be no TLP servers. Krono is the sole reason for their existence. It's a revenue stream and nothing more. Think about it. DBG have no pressure to fix anything or develop new content. Content is predetermined by the expansions, bugs, balance issues and all. It's a cash cow for them, and we're just left to deal with whatever happens.

[@Mr.Mister1974]

Expansions every 6 months was ridiculous. A lot of people I knew quit because of that nonsense. Bug, glitches they never fixed. Mercenary addition hurt. However, adding station story pretty much pay to win made more leave. Should just merge servers down so bigger population.

[@xordoom8467]

The only thing I have seen daybreak police is when you purchase another player's account to play, I am fortune enough to have a lot of expendable cash but I have limited time to level up accounts, so I purchase them at whatever max level there is on a TLP server. After about 2 - 6 months a lead GM bans all my purchased accounts.... Stating they know I purchased these accounts and they are perm-banned. IMO buying accounts impacts nobody in a negative way and gives Daybreak a nice cash influx from my 5 - 6 accounts that I am paying monthly fee's for, but they won't act on players abusing the game by perma-camping mobs or trading Krono from RMT... Makes no sense...

[@coachleif]

Personally I really enjoy TLP launches... They aren't perfect, but for a short period you can relive the old days, grouping with people, meeting up with old guild mates, and exploring Norrath all over again... It doesn't stick around forever.... the experience devolves quickly, but for a short time every year, there really is a small piece of time that gives that original EQ feel, with EC full of traders, groups shouting, and meeting new people leveling up. It's pretty much worth it for the launch week experience, and if you meet some cool people maybe you stick around a little longer. I would also argue Krono is merely a scapegoat of an even larger symptom EQ always had anyways, which is just the competition for limited resources... P99 has a lot of rules in place to make things more friendly, but everyone I know in the raiding scene exhibits basically all the same behaviors here. It's more extreme with farmers, no doubt, there are more people doing it, no doubt, but the domination of open world spawns is an EQ problem, and has been since 1999. Fighting over spawns is the oldest argument in the EQ book, and Krono or not nothing would change it... same goes for RMT... those same people would just sell plat... as they did in original EQ

[@michealjones3297]

I hope you play Monsters and memories when it's out

[@linklindlink]

It's funny cause even without krono I've had all these bad experiences on p99.

[@Acarson87]

Every time I did the hole as a cleric I always had a chanter who would charm rock golems and we would just duo all day big xp all I did was ch the rock golem.

[@kevenardllywarch7726]

I left Yelinack and moved back to Mischief due to Bot armys. with Mischiefs random loot drops there are fewer Bot players.

[@jackw.3504]

Yeah the Krono farmer always ruin TLPs. I played on Thornblade when it came out and one guy hampered the entire serves progression by perma botting the cleric epic quest crown. If you have raided in the early days of a server then you know that the cleric epic is by far the most important epic to have on a raid. Raid wipes that would take over an hour to recover from are suddenly down to 15 minutes. The guy was reported over 25 times just from our guild alone and two people sent videos of it. Big surprise Daybreak did nothing! I got lucky and I guess he lost internet one night and was one of the first on the server to get my cleric epic. He was back the next day and our guild had enough of this guy. The guild sent three groups of mains down there to take the camp from him over like 3 hours. When he finally left they left a few people there to keep getting crowns for other cleric in the guild( think we got 2 or 3 for other cleric's in our guild). Then they stayed even longer to get more and give them to other guild's clerics just in protest of that botter. I don't even think he was selling them. Before I got mine I'd only seen one other cleric on the server with their epic. I think he was just griefing the server.

[@IonBlaze1]

Ooof what a bad experience! Yeah I heard the clr one can be one of the worst! Thank you for sharing that Jack

[@jackw.3504]

@@IonBlaze1 LoL you meet me several times on that server Ion. I was Thousandheals I used to come ninja buff you when I had time. I also tried to get you into our group a few times , but you where busy or maybe didn't want to get into a group that would level you too fast. I was the Dwarven cleric in the purple armor with epic 1.0 the first time you saw me. Anywho looking forward to your next video!

[@RichardPhillips1066]

If those folks have been playing all this time since it came out ... then I'm truly amazed

[@charlesmartel3995]

EverQuest is now a PLAY TO WIN game. You can thank John Smedley for this.

[@Spendleton]

Just need to be able to Agent of Change every raid boss.

[@dylanpaul7371]

Biggest problem with EQ is multi-boxing.

[@tommylongschlong3646]

Solid video, I hate multi boxing too it just ruins the game, I don’t like the p2w pots like clarity and experience which also takes certain character powers like enchanter clarity and makes them purchasable

[@denniswright2233]

Mischief sounds like your home friend

[@IonBlaze1]

Yeah it did help with some of the problems.

[@denniswright2233]

@@IonBlaze1 I am having so much fun. Like you described about mangler this is my first char with an epic and the best I have ever been geared. We've got Mata Muram down to 65% last week . Pretty stoked about how things are going. We don't use dkp and we're all geared well.

[@Inmate533]

Everquest Rule #435: Nostalgia never accounts for developer "improvements". Honestly, I wish they had servers that permanently start/stop at certain expansions. A couple of classic and Kunark servers would be really awesome imho.

[@Remianen]

I don't think this is a problem Daybreak can solve. It's Pandora's box. They introduced krono because they saw how wildly successful PLEX were for CCP. WoW did the same thing. The issue is, CCP's game hinges on a Lord of the Flies type of mentality, which is the exact opposite of what classic EQ was built on (forced socialization and cooperation). This same behavior existed in EQ in 99/2000 as well, by the way. The difference was it wasn't nearly as organized or widespread (and epics didn't exist yet). I remember being in a guild that monopolized Lord/Frenzy for three days (nonstop) to get Yaks and sashes for all melee.

[@mrdali67]

Great Video. Gotta love the Hole. One moment you own it. little while later it owns U 😄

[@WarriorsMotivationDaily-ec9lz]

This is why I love project quarm