IP68? Mil-Spec? Rugged phone standards defined! | Pocketnow

[@lonniegerol]

Great video! Not that Im surprised that a video from pocketnow and Juan Carlos Bagnell is amazing.

[@mikayel18ify]

who else was waiting for the blender to turn on ?:p

[@UnrealOG137]

Me 😉

[@localboofboi8063]

Mikayel N lol me😀

[@samuelventimiglia7327]

Thanks for the explanation Juan. Having the HTC 10 only being IP 53 is plenty for me. When shopping for a phone, each individual needs to figure out what their needs are and find the best phone to suit those needs. Like a vehicle purchase, I bought a Prius because I commute 50 miles ones way for work reach day. If I was not driving that far, I probably wouldn't have considered that vehicle. Just slap a rugged case on the phone if you need more protection.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I'm just hoping more manufacturers actually detail the ratings for their phones. Like what would the IP rating of a G5 be with that battery slider? At least then I would have a better idea of which cases I should buy.

[@samuelventimiglia7327]

+JuanBagnell I agree that a dedicated consumer phone standard should be looked into and adopted for normal buyers, not just for tech enthusiasts.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Samuel Ventimiglia I think companies are afraid of not having "the bestest", but I honestly think it would drive MORE accessory sales in the long term.

[@KeybladeScar]

The only video I actually care about from Juan this is literally your best video 👏🏼

[@BoxCarBoy12]

I'm an outdoorsy type who spends a lot of time biking and hiking in the wilderness, so I prefer a rugged or slightly rugged phone that I can use with no case. My Droid Turbo 2 fits this bill perfectly. However, it's not a deal breaker for me though since like removable batteries, ruggedness is hard to come by on a high end phone nowadays. I can cope with a fragile device in a case.

[@Zakalwe-01]

Completely excellent! The mysteries of classification codes...revealed!

[@iMikeTech811]

Great breakdown! I've wanted a rugged phone for a while but haven't been too impressed with the offerings. The S7 active definitely sparks my interest but sadly, I'm not willing to switch carriers to get it. I don't like to use cases and usually am super careful with my devices (almost annoyingly so) It would be nice to have a device that I don't have to worry about one of my kids getting ahold of. I also workout a lot and I'm very active so a phone that I can relax around would = prayers answered! lol

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah, the carrier exclusivity is always gonna be a bummer... Also looking at you Droid Turbo 2...

[@iMikeTech811]

+JuanBagnell Right!

[@troy5568]

I heard that the S7 isn't actually waterproof. Many KZbinrs dropped the S7 under water and speakers are messed up

[@0097King]

keep up the good work Juan!

[@garvit__arora]

Why is the s7 active only available in the US...(That too with only AT&T!) 😖😖

[@Some1Something]

So my moto X 2014 without a case survived a fall from my chest height on the screen, but broke when it fell from my pocket WITH a case ( and what's worse is that the screen broke, but the gorilla glass 3 didn't ), WTF physics laws ?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

The tricky thing about drops, there's always the potential that the higher drop did crack, fracture, or degrade the internals in way which you couldn't see until the phone was dropped again, and that small damage was exacerbated. It's why I think drop tests are little more than gadget destruction porn. They're rarely well conducted tests. Even our own. THey're just entertainment.

[@Some1Something]

JuanBagnell oh well, planning to buy the pyramid flipper tablet + a nexus or a budget phone at the end of the year, since the moto X screen costs 113$ on Amazon !

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

abdul-wahab hawsawi THat's a bummer. That moto x was a killer little phone.

[@Some1Something]

JuanBagnell I liked it, but the battery was BAD.

[@Some1Something]

Daniel Salm what's your current phone ?

[@MiracleWarriors]

Water/dust resistant/proof is a must have for me and I have been using such phones since the old Sony Xperia Go and atm using a Samsung S7E. And I don't think I could use a fragile 600 dollars+ smartphone ever again that is not at least water resistant.

[@V2Slash]

Have my note 5 in a ghostek atomic 2.0 case. It give a waterproofing and major drop protection even better than otterbox.

[@OmegasMusic]

For me, if the screen is durable and shatterproof I'm happy. Water resistance is a nice addition.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Ditto. In my daily life I'm more concerned about drops.

[@MrDrWho13]

Do you favour the plastic screen of the Moto X Force/Droid Turbo2 over a glass screen with much better scratch resistance but not as much shatterproofing?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

MrDrWho13 It's tough to say. I really liked the peace of mind walking around with a kyocera brigadier. Terrible computer, pretty good phone, and it felt like an absolute tank. I shot an old video raking concrete across the display with no marks at all on the sapphire. I just knew it wouldn't be any more durable in a drop than gorilla glass.

[@OmegasMusic]

MrDrWho13 I prefer the shatterproofing, I could get a glass screen protector for the hard scratches.

[@MrDrWho13]

+Picasso's Journal Oh how the tables turn! Edit: I clearly haven't a clue how to tag people.

[@KyleRuggles]

Exactly what people needed right now heh. I've been telling people it's water resistant but many are telling me it's water proof. , some people can be so stubborn. Water Proof is in the eye of the beholder I guess. This is exactly what I needed too! I didn't read up much on ip ratings. I'd go for a rugged phone like the V10, since I do have a preference for great audio and a strong build, but water proofing isn't important to me, since most of the times and I don't use my phone near a sink, pool or toilet bowl lol, now that's just silly :P I just wouldn't pay a premium to get it, a $40 otterbox and a glass screen protector is enough for most folk. Having the ability to switch cases or not use a case at all, to me, is more beneficial.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah. I'm still torn on the case thing. Like the price difference between a GS7 and a GS7A is usually about what a nice rugged case and screen protector might cost. But other factors like battery size are usually improvements. I just don't like using cases in general. If I like how a phone looks I want to use it that way, not cover it up.

[@KyleRuggles]

JuanBagnell True true, that's why it's great to have the V10, looks great and can take a tumble without sacrificing much. I have a case on my G4 now, the Spigen Rough Armor, not thick and provides protection from drops, I've never had any glass screen protectors cuz I use a case lol and I'm careful. I actually prefer to use a case, especially with a device that's being used constantly. After I dropped my Iphone 4s, I vowed never again to use a phone without a one lol. $120 screen replacement isn't worth the price of a "good" $20 case heh. But there are some who are clumsy and very active so I can see the value heh.

+JuanBagnell Amen

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

LOL yeah true. I should amend, that it's not that I NEVER use a case, just more that my case usage is context specific. If I'm out on a location shoot, armor that baby! Just daily errands and social stuff, leave it naked.

[@KyleRuggles]

JuanBagnell My thoughts exactly :D so when I see this Active device for the price, that's what I think heh, battery aside.

[@Sapple498]

I like to give my phones (SGS4 and SGNote4) nice, big and chunky cases. I now have a Spigen Neo Hybrid on my Note 4.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Spigen make some KILLER cases. Been enjoying my UAG bumpers too. Some really great options out there.

[@UnrealOG137]

+JuanBagnell I use Otterbox, but it failed me when I had a commuter case on my Droid turbo and I dropped it on concrete... On it's back, from about 3 feet, and the display, not the glass, broke

[@DavidThomas1973]

very informative, thanks for video

[@im_just_ami]

Would you recommend upgrading from a S6 Active to a S7 Active?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Honestly? Probably not. I REALLY liked the S6A. You'd need to decide how important it is for you to have a fingerprint sensor and SD card expansion.

[@fangyideng3131]

Are you foreshadowing the water resistant iPhone this year at the end of this video?

[@crimsonstang]

Wait, I thought this video was actually going to have some comparisons and actual tests?

[@kolonmelon8173]

MiL STD 810G means that your phone is so protective, it can be used as a condom

[@crusader9795]

thx for the tip gonna try it soon

[@irekirek123]

Can't wait for the iPhone 15 I need splash resistance

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Heh-heh...

[@reyfuentes4572]

+JuanBagnell hey are you going to review the Kyocera duraforce pro E6820 ?

[@ericnichols5732]

Eric Sharp the iPhone 7 is waterproof weirdo

[@Oahnay14]

I'm pretty confident with my Oneplus One. Already I have dropped it on cement and the the damage was only cosmetic. (keep in mind I have a tempered glass screen protector) so I'm only considering purchasing a TPU case for i , I don't think I need anything super rugged. But IP 68 would be nice.....

[@raffaelender9464]

no case at all

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

That's how I roll!

[@dariamunik2555]

In general a really nice phone… personally i m more a Agm user, tho… love having great cameras, processors , and specs but i strongly prefer having them more durable and a not-so-overpriced range, The Agm x2 is out, by the way! I ll love to see it compare with this one. Nice review! thanks!

[@KeithJamesChua]

I want my Google Now or Siri to sound like Juan

[@troy5568]

When will IP88 go out?

[@adidima.eblogauto]

best way to combine water resistance with style is the way Sony is doing it. love my z3 compact.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Sadly the z3C might have been Sony's high watermark for a premium small device. Doesn't look like that line will continue...

[@greenminded22]

hi pocketnow do you have any positive revie of the lg g5

[@imnnet1]

you are doing great Juan keep up. but where is Micheal Fisher?

[@matthewdollman9065]

I buy cases. Currently on my s7 I have a rhino shield crash guard in blue and I really like it

[@arunverma4926]

please let me know the name of first two smartphones of your video thumbnail.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

rugby pro and galaxy s4 active

[@arunverma4926]

+JuanBagnell thanks ☺

[@stefos1959]

S7 Active will come to Europe?

[@boatsfa2015]

Active duty military and Samsung Active is life. Dropped my phone several times on hard steel and aluminum surfaces from heights of 5 ft and its good to go. I also bring my phone in the shower every time with 0 issues.

[@dariamunik2555]

I love that the AGM line got the Qualcomm, Whereas Qualcomm-made processors are popular in UK phones, many Chinese phones come with cheaper MediaTek chips.The fastest among these (the Helio X25, X27 and X30): but still: typically speaking they're not quite as fast as their Qualcomm cousins, though they are more than capable of your daily tasks. The x2 (agm x2) got NFC and Qualcomm Snapdragon 653 (MSM8976 Pro) so... yeah! thats the main reason i considered to getting that one and not this that you reviewed... nice article tho! thanks for it! :)

[@Testchamber]

what phone is to the left of the s4 active?

[@Goliath1337]

2:33 Wow, phones can even survive Sexually Transmitted Diseases now!

[@KNhunterX]

Rugged preferred. I've had people asking me, where do you buy your case. It was a Samsung Galaxy S6 Active.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

HA! And the S6A might fall just behind the Note 4 for me in favorite build and design for any phone ever made. Especially the blue camo. Love it.

[@ericbarragan4915]

What's the first phone on the left in the thumbnail?

[@ledolphinz3942]

Samsung Galaxy rugby pro

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Good eye.

[@ledolphinz3942]

+JuanBagnell Hey, thanks!

[@ericdaley7033]

Am I the only one who bought the active line so I can trust myself to use it while drunk? My S6 active is still going strong a year later!

[@nuclearreactor7058]

I put cases on my phones to keep them looking nice in the long run since I tend to drop my phones quite often. I'd much rather have a beat up case then a beat up phone.

[@darrenlawton2298]

I'm surprised he didn't mention Motorola's new shatter resistant display on the turbo 2

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Nope, but I showed the Droid off a bit.

[@onlyfrays]

If we could get a good looking, thin, premium phone without compromising durability, everything would be perfect

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

LOL if only... Sigh...

[@Onomatopoeia4u]

Lol. Oh 2016, we can have style and ruggedness now. You poor ancient souls...

[@8peterp]

thank to apple smartphones became so delicate ,it's like walking around with a lightbulb in your packet costs more than a 50" 4k tv. good to see manufacturers address the issue.

[@danielevans3232]

Okay, if an iPhone is more expensive than a 50" 4K TV, please tell me where you buy your TV's. I want one. Haha :)

[@8peterp]

ok no prob. SAMSUNG UE50JU6800 Smart 4k Ultra HD 50" LED TV ,Currys PCworld vs iphone 6s Plus 16gb (!). LG 55UF680V Smart 4k Ultra HD 55" LED TV vs iphone 6s plus 64gb. these aren't even serious offers and Irish prices are much higher than should be.

[@brvdleigh3546]

I know that park that Juan uses for the running water on rocks shot

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's a great spot, but damn people look at you funny when you shoot video under that bridge...

[@fiatlux8828]

I'm usually pretty careful with my phones, so all I really use is a tempered glass screen protector.

[@DublicusFlipnote]

I'd buy the s7 active for the battery alone.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's epic. I love that battery life. I know quite a few folks who would KILL for the build quality and battery, but just want the Active to look like a normal Galaxy phone instead of a camo print "tough dude" phone.

[@DublicusFlipnote]

JuanBagnell I got a Moto G (2014) I love the phone but it is slow at times. A upgrade seems due. lol

[@محمدالعميري-ظ4ظ]

i dont care about the look of a phone i just love it to be so rugged without a case😃

[@rednafi]

the title let me know its a Juan featured video...:)

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

:-)

[@MauricePhoenix]

Thinking of getting CATERPILLAR

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I haven't played with one in a while. They looked really cool though.

[@geromax7715]

I have the galaxy rugby proits really great just sucks in specs rn

[@gaspersavle161]

The s6 active has a waaaayyy better design, it looks manlyer

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I do like the sharper lines and edges on the S6A better.

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

Mufa Mufa forget being manly until you can spell.

[@Kwotzi]

I like to hold a phone how it's designed to be held, so no cases. I don't care about looks, as long as it can survive drops other phones can't. If there is a rugged version, I'll take it.

[@matthewwinter5780]

I agree except performance is huge for me as well, I can't do kyoceras and things like that cause performance wise they just suck...I have the Turbo 2 a, and it's been thrown and kicked around so much it's bent, still works like it just came out the box, I'm happy with it

[@danielm5633]

+Matthew Winter nobody wants an inferior rugged phone so that's why the turbo and active line sell well

[@Gurkha78]

I'd much rather rock a durable phone with a light case (to protect for scratching) than rock a fragile phone with a giant case

[@738polarbear]

I have noticed that Samsung and Iphone owners are particularly vicious towards other makes . LG is GREATLY underrated , Huawei is hated, Pixel is dismissed contemptuously . Need I go on .?

[@George-nx4bp]

I like having my moto g3 just kept in a nice case so I'm good against drops and water

[@IshmamKhan]

I don't know if I want my phone to have "MIL-STD" specs.

[@AlvinCornelius]

I got thick skin & an elastic heart

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

But your blade it might be too sharp?

[@arnand1st727]

+JuanBagnell what blade?? :D

[@AlvinCornelius]

like a rubber band until you pull too hard

[@jonnylee8538]

Only S4 Active was sold without AT&T exclusivetivity. Too bad S5 Active onward is.

[@YashKansalx]

Case of if it breaks I can change it

[@generalmcnobbets6929]

My phone weights five pounds and has three layers of steel plating on the back and sides, I think it can survive an explosion

[@BrownyTheGamer15052003]

i use a cheap acer well its realy strong nya

[@TheRacerx1234]

It's better than the standard S7 edge.. IMO

[@Mau5ing]

Same

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

THat battery... O.o

[@shayan_ecksdee]

won't feel as good in the hands and won't drop any jaws

[@nazarenofernandez2549]

You are responding all the comments! That is awesome!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Nazareno Fernandez Not all, but I get around ;-)

[@hammamfarros3625]

i think is the best underwater phone

[@prachandbhakt9973]

sir i always wonder. how come all the people who review mobiles get brand new expensive phones..do they buy or they get free or do they have their own mobile shops..

[@owenchuarbx]

I'll vote for matte and very protective phones

[@bleach8672]

you can test how many hits the concrete can take with the nokia :P

[@carll2982]

We Need Phones That Can Resist Everything!!!!

[@carll2982]

Or Survive

[@fiddle_n]

I don't like cases. I have a sleeve for my Nexus 6P that it goes in when it isn't used, but during actual usage I use my phone naked.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah I roll without a case for MOST of my phone use. I always try to keep a tough case on hand for REALLY rugged situations, but otherwise, if I like hte look of a phone, why would I cover it up?

[@AlexToma]

I'm so edgy, I don't use a case on my phone #rebel

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Living dangerous. I dig it.

[@josephfarina]

Lol, too bad I can't be as edgy as you.... As soon as I took my Nexus 5X out of the box, I put on a tempered glass screen protector on it, and a hefty case.

[@faizshaikh476]

Juan Cenaaaa

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

:-D

[@sandeepkodeti]

your voice sounds like software assistant one's

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

OR software assistant sounds like me...

[@tommymunkholm]

Have the s7 edge. Think design is more important..

[@troy5568]

I wish someone would create a phone that has -IP99 certification -shatter proof screen -shock proof body -fireproof chassis I know this is just a dream that will never happen so I guess I'll just keep dreaming. Bye

[@jnjgoldberg]

I would get a rugged phone

[@firerider669]

i might go with a sleeker looking phone with a ultra super uber life saving case. You'll always have an option to remove the cover and look FAB at any gathering or event #FABlife lol

[@angelorrostieta3013]

what's up guys

[@oromoto]

Where is Nokia in this test?

[@batistajericho4281]

the smartphone i buy cannot be fragile in any way, meaning no galaxy s7.

[@kevin1234gg]

if only the s7 active was worldwide... *sigh*

[@Rickbearcat]

As of yet, I don't have a need for these types of phones.

[@awaisahmed9418]

Stop abusing your phones they have feelings and rights 😂😂😂

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Muah-ha-ha-ha!!!

[@danielevans3232]

Siri is sentient, trust me she says some weird shit sometimes.

[@bstone100]

Can Juan reply to me? Plzzzzzz

[@bstone100]

Oh and pair a droid turbo 2 with a lifeproof case=indestructible

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

LOL that's almost classic Nokia tough...

[@bstone100]

+JuanBagnell yeah lol almost

[@blablablablabla9859]

Now if someone ask abt this things to me I can explain deeply definitely positive feed back must be coming want more and more to often this kinda videos too

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

:-)

[@odehko]

stop the 60fps video.. my mobile data can't catch up

[@kevinhuang8763]

Just don't drop your phone

[@SonGoli]

Mil STD 810G? wtf

[@aryantiwari1945]

rugged phones... there should be hard cases that can make every phone rugged when in needs to , i mean it should be replaceable , like i wont mind galaxy s7 , 7mm think , that goes upto 14 mm with that case on ,

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I'm shocked more manufacturers don't offer first party rugged solutions. Like a Super tough, sealed battery case for the GS7 directly from Samsung. Maybe it even comes with a wireless charging dock to REALLY seal the phone up. Could be epic...

[@UnrealOG137]

For me durability over style. I want my phone to turn heads

[@faresmartini6749]

who else was watching this until league of legends game loaded

[@captaininfinite5039]

Early AF. also, I prefer Rugged phones

[@dtb6456]

a rugged battery case will transform your normal s7 to a S7 active!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mytech3833]

who watched the last couple of seconds?

[@sarcasmorgasm2854]

me I did your idiot

[@mytech3833]

your tounge is not in your control

[@webbie1891]

Kinda pointless since it's only for at&t

[@UnrealOG137]

Yup. I feel you

[@fierypanda9202]

Lol 2:33 STD

[@aneeeessshhh]

Yo!

[@infidelgastro]

I'd rather have a more stylish device along with a case. I'd guess 95% of people who buy rugged devices do so because they're clumsy and ham-fisted or let their kids play with their devices.

[@1Randomsailor]

I'm hard on phones since I work outside, so rugged is good,

[@zacharyc6549]

Juan can you please respond to my comment? I'll give you some spicy memes!

[@Yuzu486]

ip69 lol

[@CRONA505]

eewwwwwww....!!!!!!!!! I'd rather break a thousand phones than carry around one of these uglys