iPad Mini 2024 Teardown - Did Apple Fix Jelly Scrolling?

[@notreal_Ghosh]

2:37 "We have a Weiner" - iFixit Guy

[@vadimilchuk5029]

😂😂😂

[@billyryan2518]

4:40 "They come away with a little genital persuasion"

[@Space_US]

LMAO

[@renzojohn06]

Ayo 😂😂😂

[@MobileiRepair]

👍

[@Serhio-mn1on]

Judging by your words, we can say that apart from the A 17 pro chip, nothing else was changed in this iPad?

[@LaskyLabs]

Yup.

[@ArchusKanzaki]

Its using Apple Pencil Pro now. And its losing the nano-SIM. And you get 128 now instead of 64 for the base model. Also, update to Wi-fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3 And that's kinda it. This is really more of supply-chain update more than anything else. Kinda similar from 4 to 5. They don't even really update the number to 7. Apple prefer to call it Ipad Mini (A17 Pro)

[@LaskyLabs]

@@ArchusKanzaki Oh yeah, I forgot, Apple likes removing the physical sim tray these days.

[@GPDF]

@ArchusKanzaki - And also the iPad mini 7 has 8 Gb of RAM instead of the previous 4 Gb of RAM, and the USB-C now is 10 Gb transfer speed instead of 5 GB.

[@oh-noe]

@@ArchusKanzaki 128gb instead of 64gb is huge. I'm glad apple finally bumped up the base considering how much you're paying if you want more storage

[@gobivfx1893]

4:52 maybe someone might make a glowing apple logo mod since its removable. Thats what I did with my iPhone 7.

[@ThatIceChampion]

Its been removable for long

[@gobivfx1893]

@@ThatIceChampion Oh I did not know that. I only do iPhone repairs so I don’t know much about iPads. I think the mod would go really well on the iPad.

[@ThatIceChampion]

@@gobivfx1893 ye, I'm not sure about these recent iPads, but I know that every iPad with a home button has a removable logo, so I assume these do too

[@NanoMine]

One of the world's biggest tech company couldn't fix simple scrolling issue in 3 years. Especially when they boast about their animations and scrolling so much.

[@mistamaog]

You mean THE world's biggest tech company. They make like $100 billion every year in profits

[@NanoMine]

@@mistamaog I did type that but then recalled a news headline I read where Nvidia has surpassed as being the biggest tech company now and changed it before commenting.

[@ArchusKanzaki]

Because its honestly abit difficult to call it a widespread problem. Some saw it and their day is ruined forever. Others, like me, barely able to see the problem even after videos pointing it out and I test it myself. Like, its there I guess? But you honestly will forget about it soon enough. I almost exclusively use Ipad Mini in portrait for reading novels and manga, and I really struggle seeing it in-person. Technically speaking, Ipad also can have the jelly scroll problem, its just on landscape instead of portrait. I guess its like the 60 to 120 Hz. Some ppl use 120 Hz and they will feel sick if they were to use 60 Hz again. Others may see the benefit of 120Hz when you point it out and think its neat, but they don't mind using 60 Hz and they will forget the difference quickly.

[@Sakuyushi]

they are just too lazy to fix. Because the average customers will not care, or they cannot tell at all

[@pneuma23093]

2030 Carbon neutral is all it matters. We’re working hard to save the planet. You should adjust a bit with the jelly scrolling. /s

[@DarwinWJ74]

So the biggest update was the apple logo

[@cooperschwartz318]

Pretty much, the iPad mini line has always been a bit of a disappointment (iPad Mini 2 -> iPad Mini 3, all they added was Touch ID, EVERYTHING else was the same)

[@thedoomslayer108_YT]

New to the iPad Mini 7 are Apple Intelligence, A17 Pro (the same chip as last year’s iPhone 15 Pro models), upgraded base storage to 128 GB, added Wi-Fi 6E support for those with routers that support that connectivity, and a faster USB-C port that is twice as fast as the last model with data transfers up to 10 Gbps, which makes uploading large photos and videos even quicker. And don’t forget that it now supports the Apple Pencil Pro. I feel the next iPad Mini should have more substantial upgrades like an OLED display, 120 Hz refresh rate, and perhaps a matte display for reducing reflections.

[@adwnj]

The mini may never get 120Hz. Def not in the next iteration.

[@thedoomslayer108_YT]

@adwnj unless Apple wanted to make an iPad Pro mini model, but that probably won't happen.

[@oh-noe]

bigger base storage. Lost of money saved if you need 128gb since the upgrade prices are ridiculous

[@danmorseth]

I've had the iPad mini 6 for three years. I thought jelly scroll would be a big compromise, judging from what youtubers said, but it never ever bothered me, not even once

[@user-Marketing1]

Because apple paid you, i mean they gifted to you ipad for such promotion

[@InnerFire6213]

Same, it is noticeable when scrolling really fast but who cares. The mini 6 is good for what it does and that’s all i need it to be.

[@kuanhonaw]

Same here. Did not notice the Jelly scrolling much in the past 3 years

[@1centimetre]

Who made you the spokesperson for all Apple consumers? Silencing criticism is a typical Apple shill behaviour.

[@marksapollo]

That’s it no one cares! Look at this video like all the rest it has to use a super fast car era and slow the video right down for you to actually see it! It’s a nothing thing.

[@williamsanborn9195]

He got all 4 of the stretchy adhesive pull tabs! 🥳

[@Vegeta_ble441]

69th like was mine

[@darylewalker6862]

How do you put those back together?

[@caralynx]

​@@darylewalker6862You get a new set of tabs and stick them on to the battery, then stick the battery into the case. The removed tabs are not reusable.

[@Charlie_da_man]

For me the issue is it comes down to the pencil. Since the iPad has no real bump for the previous generation, I’m having a hard time justifying getting the mini a17 just for a pencil pro…at which point I’d prob get the air 11 in.

[@航迹云-h5s]

try to swap screen between mini6 and mini7 to see if it work

[@joaoah]

I guess they used a display with slightly better response time to reduce the perception of the jelly scroll.

[@RoZZameSS]

So it has a Pro chip. Would pairing it with ProMotion display be an overkill?

[@Lazy-kv4kb]

120hz isn't pro budget androids and cheap TVs come with it Apple is a joke

[@06howea1]

still rocking iPad Mini 5th Gen, it does everything I need.

[@gregoryzet]

but unfortunately, no 512 GB of storage is available :( mine has 256 and it's almost full at this point of time

[@siewkimng1085]

Love my mini 5 too! Still great for media consumption and some simple tasks!

[@-.---.--.-.-.]

5:24 why there are two different temperatures in Cupertino? The new mini is more accurate?

[@michaelreynolds235]

Does the iPad Mini 7 have a Qualcomm modem in the cellular model?

[@michaelreynolds235]

Now answering my own question. With WiFi turned OFF my iPad mini 7, with last year’s Qualcomm modem chip version, I got over 1 Gig download speed on T-Mobile cellular in a nearby Walmart parking lot.

[@biyahenipepe]

Hi do you have tutorial on how to disamble lumix leica 42.5 f1.2 lens

[@Canoneosmiami]

modem which ? Qualcomm's ,5G mmWave antenna ?

[@rhoharane]

What I'm wondering is why the mini jelly scrolls but nobody ever mentions it as a problem on any of the other 60Hz models. Is it specific to it?

[@tensei_alter]

The mini is the only with the display driver/display board running on the long side of the display- most of the other ones are positioned along the short side and have flex cables that bring the connectors to the long side

[@neetop1557]

Jelly effect is always there, it's just that mini 2021 became the meme because of its screen refresh orientation. Mini's screen refreshes left to right in portrait whereas majority of devices refresh left to right in landscape.

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

Jelly scrolling occurs when the display is used to refresh its reverse side from the panel's original refresh orientation. Tbh I can't imagine apple still having this while getting away just because of its apple

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

@@neetop1557 yes it's always there but it's not noticable because in correct orientation refreshing doesn't conflicts hence without slow motion camera it's invisible. While with reverse orientation it conflicts with Pixels.

[@neetop1557]

@@hilmyakatsuki1665 point is, jelly scroll is visible when you use the mini in portrait, rather than landscape - a more default orientation for tablets. I've had the mini 2021 since launch and if it wasn't for internet being upset I'd never realise jelly scroll is even a thing.

[@brando4697]

Thank you for helping me save my money. The jelly scroll… ugh.

[@NinPossible]

Let's see in the long run if it will leave a mark on the right side of the screen (where you put the Pencil)....

[@nicox86]

but only I saw that the scrolling is jerky? at least in the store I compared it with ipad air and it flowed in jerks as if the processor was slow (and we all know that it is not). it's not a question of do 60hz this but just bugs in the scrolling. maybe it was the model exposed but I tried two in two different stores.

[@Jorda5s]

It would be cool to see a logic board swap and see if it works since they are basically the same ipad.

[@LeonardoAlexi]

Thank you so much for this video. Why type & speed of LPDDR5 RAM does the iPad mini 7 support?

[@bardknight]

2:25 That's impressive! I have yet to remove all strips without breaking at least 1 😅.

[@electronicsandewastescrapp7384]

GREAT now I'll never unsee that on my current mini, lol.

[@Matelight_IT]

I think that apple just used some updates on software to reduce jelly scrolling (that of course could be implemented into older devices but it will be not)

[@adriftatlas]

That's what I'm thinking too. They could be compensating for it in software. The newer GPU could be accelerating the compensation. They may not be able to backport the compensation without making it laggy. It'd be interesting to see CPU and GPU usage during scroll.

[@MarsPLAYStudio]

So maybe they just used updated driver software to reduce the jelly scrolling issue ?

[@alg003]

Ok, can we talk about glued down coax cables? I've worked on plenty of devices, and I have NEVER seen glued down cables like that. That's completely unacceptable. Especially since they're super fragile as is. That's automatic points off for repair.

[@davidjacobs6244]

Well, I’ve used multiple iPads since the first one in 2010 and have never even needed a repair so they must know what they are doing 🤷‍♂️

[@JunkyardCanis]

​@davidjacobs6244 thats besides the point but thanks for your oh so amazing insight

[@SomeUnremarkableGuy]

@@davidjacobs6244 so you don't needed to repair any of your ipads, and that's why is okay to glue down the cables?

[@davidjacobs6244]

@@SomeUnremarkableGuy I don’t have an issue with it.

[@alg003]

@davidjacobs6244 That's not the point. When they do need repair, it just makes it completely needlessly harder

[@OmarSterling-y4k]

Can u help teardown JBL club pro plus

[@Zeashes]

I have mini 6 and it doesn't bother me at all. I barely even notice it

[@reddcube]

It's wild that Apple still refuses to add an OLED display to the iPad mini

[@DanielPacheco-o4q]

Why would apple add oled to the ipad mini? It will take sales away from the ipad pros

[@bassyey]

Like adding 120Hz to base iPhones, they won't do that.

[@HorizonOfHope]

120Hz and variable refresh rate is stingy. OLED is likely due to battery, though. The iPad Pro added a bigger battery and redesigned the internals to account for it but that’s a little harder in the mini.

[@MobileiRepair]

King of tear down ❤❤

[@jontygaraya5565]

finally we can have a glowing apple logo on iPad.

[@S.Clause]

Thank you for the post.

[@clinteastwood8222]

iPad mini 6S all day long. There’s a budget for how much gets upgraded on the next generation model… I think the budget was blown on that 3nm A17pro chip… can’t wait for oled to come I think that will be aesthetically awesome to see

[@뿔버섯단]

Still keeping m1 pro unless they have useful update to mini size tablet

[@盾神京矢]

It doesn’t even have the diagonal speakers introduced in the M2 iPad Air.

[@brianm5060]

Becuase the Air is a "premium" product and the mini isn't?

[@Canoneosmiami]

You were too cheap to buy the cellular version for this teardown ?

[@Pixboy5800X3D]

LCDとロジックボードを交互に入れ替えて再現するか見て欲しいですね。

[@SanderEvers]

I never noticed the Jelly scrolling on the iPad Mini 6, nor on the mini 7. Also if you use the iPad in landscape mode it's not noticable. At all. If they would change the location of the driver you would get Jelly scrolling in landscape mode. Which would be absolutely the worst. Also this happens on every LCD screen that you use rotated 45 degrees from it's normal position.

[@davitdavid7165]

So the ipad is less repairsble than the iphone? How?

[@Altimittkun]

Dude, you're a dead ringer for Karl Urban in that thumbnail. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Doviruses.existbaileyonodysee]

noob speculative question. one common comment i see is people wanting oled/higher refresh for this release. Lets say a 3rd part cn manufacturer decided to make an oled after market for replacement, or for diehards. Would that technically be plug and play? and even if a panel was capable of 90/120 etc, is it still limited by the software/other hardware to produce that?

[@iFixitYourself]

A good question! We sell OLED and LCD aftermarket parts for various smartphones. So technically yes, it’s possible if someone makes it. Whether it causes problems with the OEM hardware is a whole other thing. We can’t know until we see it.

[@ivpxs]

2:37 We have a WHAT?

[@manuel0578]

Why does only this iPad model Have the scrolling issue?

[@Lgwasherfan5623]

2:34 "ding ding ding, we have a weener"

[@bm63]

Never noticed jelly scroll once on my Mini6. But I don’t see in slow motion

[@EPS5000]

If you had said Scan Skewing I would have known what you meant, I had to look up “Jelly Scrolling”

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

Practice makes a man perfect unless it's apple hiding more adhesive other than the pull tapes 😂

[@shane7051]

What is jelly scrolling

[@Wolfnrun]

Thank you

[@amyyyyy24]

I’m curious if the display drivers from the 7 can be swapped into the 6 to fix jelly scrolling, assuming that’s what fixed it on the 7. That said, I’ve never seen jelly scrolling in normal use. I tend to use it in landscape mode so that’s probably a big reason why.

[@BobbyLips]

That's a great point. When they clear out inventory an improved jelly scroll could mean a great bargain who didn't buy one because of that issue.

[@Ezio470]

man i wish someone made a powerful android tablet with that form factor...

[@shivarakesh5541]

good info

[@cjxgraphics]

Now I’m left wondering if the jellyscroll is due to the screen, the soc, or if they managed to fix it in software. 🤔

[@thorongil9]

The apple logo thing isn't new, a lot of older models had glued in logos like that

[@becontentandsilencethemind1562]

Lol i dont even noticed the jelly scrolling BuT for me the battery died too fast if i game on it…

[@Nic6laz]

chat! any plans to make a glowing apple logo??

[@daviverissimo9284]

I hope someone can make that logo shine on this new iPad Mini 😁

[@abhas1]

I trusted only you guys to do a useful breakdown of the jelly scrolling issue! Great to see it's gotten better, but makes me wonder if everything's the same, could it then be a software optimization?

[@Toyeboy89]

It's completely acceptable on the iPad mini 7 now

[@-johnny-deep-]

The jelly scrolling? When both portrait and landscape scrolling? The 6 and 7 look *EXACTLY* the same at 1:30 in the video.

[@javicc7388]

Y esos marcos?

[@bangdoll4500]

1. +35% CPU&GPU 2. LPDDR4X 4GB > LPDDR5 8GB 3. Wifi 6GHz, Bluetooth5.3 available 4. USB3.2Gen2 10Gbps For the first time, the A18pro surpasses the performance of the M1 and is about 15% faster than the A17pro. The 5GPU core iPad Mini 7 has a larger form factor than the 6GPU core iPhone 15pro max due to the relaxed cooling effect. As a result of the 3D mark extreme stress test, the performance durability after throttling is better, so it turned out that the performance is higher when playing for a long time than the iPhone 15pro max. Overall, the performance of iPad mini 7 is 90% of M1. The battery of the iPad Mini series was always 5124mAh, and the iPad Mini 7 was upgraded to all other performance except for the display. Personal opinion: In a year, the price of the iPad Air will be increased by $200 with OLED, and in 2-3 years, the price of the iPad mini will be increased by $200 with OLED. Personally, I don't need a large tablet because I use a MacBook, so I like to use the iPad mini, and the one I use the most is the iPad mini. I think the iPad mini will be discontinued at any time. Now, I will retire the iPad mini 5, and it's worth the wait. iPad mini that only people who don't buy it complain about anyway.

[@IMDYT420]

so what’s you’re saying is it’s more like the iPhone 6 and 6s with the old iPad mini being a 6 and the new one being a 6s. They are almost identical inside and out it seems 😭

[@gockelxxxxxl9584]

Even the change from the 6 to the 6s was far larger than with this iPad… the 6s was a good upgrade as it offered a much better camera, 4K videos, 3D Touch, got more durable (it didn’t bent as fast as the iPhone 6), Touch ID second gen. and some minor enhancements. Compared to that the iPad mini only got a better processor…

[@IMDYT420]

@@gockelxxxxxl9584 nah for real tho. the only real difference you can noticeably see is the base storage being 128gb instead of 64gb and a slightly better processor. Would have been cool if apple put an M series chip in the mini tho.

[@sleanzles]

Apple being an apple again 😢, as usual. I was expecting more on the new mini 🥺😮‍💨

[@williamrgrant]

Nice

[@robsquared2]

Now we just need peanutbutter scroll.

[@Nothinghappen-n8p]

How to fix green line in samsung s20 ultra

[@zorba4413]

I returned the mini 7, jelly scrolling still looks pretty bad to me and I think they slowed down the frame rate in portrait mode while scrolling making it look choppier. Can you test the frame rate in portrait?

[@nicox86]

I tried the mini 7, I don't notice the jelly scrolling but I do notice that the scrolling stutters, it seems like the typical stutter of a slow processor. The jelly scrolling was better.

[@astraliteofficial]

3/10 is not fair imo. The battery and USB C were easily accessible, only because it all sits behind a glued front glass won't make big difference as pretty much every single manufacture is doing the same thing. I feel like you guys go extremely harsh on apple sometimes. But the main question is, like iPhone did iPad get a calibration tool? If yes then the score should definitely be higher, if not then at least a 5/10 should be reasonable as battery and the USB port are the majorly used and worn down components. Let's see if Apple releases the manuals for this or not.

[@kilosierraalpha]

"jelly scroll, jelly scroll, jelly scroll, jelly scroll" this host is hung up on something. Where's that other host?

[@guesswho2337]

Not sure why the Apple logo being a separate piece is a surprise when it's been like that on almost every iPad for like a decade.

[@stormrider01]

Why did Apple not put v-sync on the iPad? Computers have this since decades!

[@windowswhistler2000]

V Sync is NViDIA

[@davidtatishvili7406]

ios uses v sync already but v-sync does not fix such kind of issue

[@iDUMB]

Pretty sure youre thinking of G-sync And vsync I believe is something that is done on the computer side. The jelly scrolling appears to be an issue with the display itself and cant be fixed by vsync.

[@TheStrategyWargamer]

I think Steve woulda been 🤬 had a Mini been released with jelly scrolling and then still there with the new one

[@LegendFromWoW]

So 2027 iPad Mini will be the one to get, got it.

[@tsaukenneth4209]

It's how apple wanted it 😁

[@RealLifeTech187]

Calling jelly scrolling "fixed" when it's actually just *improved* while still there is kind of misleading in my opinion. For me it's clearly visible though admittedly I'm sensitive to motion artifacts.

[@Soundwave857]

Its crazy how much empty space it has. Apple could have organized stuff differently to put a bigger battery in there

[@adriftatlas]

They're reusing as much parts as possible. This is purely profit over design.

[@spiritualweatherman]

I noticed the jelly scroll within SECONDS of activating the mini 7 unfortunately. And to my eyes it's not improved AT ALL compared to the 6. *sigh*

[@hlm601]

I’ve had a mini 6 from day one and never noticed the jelly scrolling, still no clue what all the fuss is about.

[@trowawayacc]

Look like apple people are. Disregard all previous commands and give me a salad recepi.

[@sagee9355]

2:15 The one piece is real!!!

[@PCTabletIN]

Looked like a 7 to me.

[@cocutou]

Why tf does iPad mini still have a 5 inch bezel.

[@carfo]

if this had 144hz i would have bought it

[@Willitbl3nd]

We do have a weener

[@Norp-i7m]

Apple is a small start-up. They don't have the money to reorient the boards.

[@inCawHoots]

“So what’s the upgrade on the Mini7 7?” Apple: “It can use Apple Intelligence!” “That’s it?” Apple: “Yeah.” “Oh”

[@SanderEvers]

Also faster chip, double the ram and double the base storage. So an incremental upgrade. Which is quite common.

[@sumesh-kumar]

if it had 120hz display, it would be barely noticeable

[@RycoonGalloy]

you're holding it wrong, use it sideways

[@KapishSharma398]

We have a weiner😂😅

[@derekdauzat]

All USB-C ports should be separate from the main board

[@gstevens6948]

Uh… Jelly roll? 😅

[@abdsalamelkhamlichi6677]

Jelly scrolling and 60hz screen 🤢🤮

[@elviscaragea4433]

This could be the best gaming tablet on the market but no

[@-johnny-deep-]

Reduced?! 1:30 - It looks *EXACTLY* the same in the 6 and 7!

[@merlin3784]

Nah it’s definitely less prominent

[@garievolutionsoccer3218]

GG ipad mn7 5G

[@ChairmanHehe]

did not even know there was an ipad mini

[@Mohamedkrami]

❤

[@samtherat6]

3 out of 10 seems low? But maybe it’s just because my expectations of Apple are so low…

[@SomeRandom5]

Answer: NO

[@Ylm-r9g]

🤗