iPad Pro M2: What Does "Pro" Even Mean?

[@lizzieburns4172]

Musician here - Most of my colleagues, myself included, own a 12.9 iPad pro for reading music, instead of paper sheet music. We exclusively use iPads instead of other tablets because the software we use, called ForeScore, is apple exclusive, and the 12.9" because it has to be big enough to read off of a music stand. I would love more than anything to have a large non-pro iPad, it's completely insane that the majority of the music industry owns these incredibly powerful machines just to read PDFs on a big screen. Also, Marques, we went to high school together, go cougars.

[@ledzeprulz]

Another muso here. My current 12.9 iPad almost died on me the other day and left me contemplating a new iPad. I was absolutely gutted to find out that Apple would try to box me into getting their most expensive tablet option just because of screen size. Ridiculous. I don’t need an M2 chip to read pdf’s of sheet music.

[@iitstrippy9724]

Did u feel better when you added “go cougars.” ?

[@caseybowman9017]

​@@iitstrippy9724 do you feel better after you typed your comment

[@CricketEngland]

Yea but think to purchase a iPad Pro 12.9 with apple pencil and Smart Keyboard and 2TB SSD (to replace a laptop) is £3,017.00 and that just the Wifi only version. Just imagine what kinda laptop you can get for that money, just proves how much Apple rip off their customers.

[@liambowers9489]

@@caseybowman9017 did u feel better when you typed your comment 🤥

[@seansiquig]

i always love MKBHD’s twin being included in these videos 🙏

[@Celia_ffx]

MKBSD is so underrated bro

[@muniapriyansu8805]

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[@Stampyboyz]

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[@sk8erlprj]

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[@yfufyv6230]

MKUSB 4.1

[@steverix8181]

The refurbished M1 iPad Pro at the moment just make so much more sense. Even in the UK where we often get shafted, we are talking a £440 saving on the 256GB model, M1 refurbished vs M2. It's a crazy amount of price increase for such little gains in spec and features.

[@MrUnknownXD]

Imagine the Marques wearing Boston Dynamics T-shirt is not an edited clone but is actually a robot that he got made from Boston Dynamics themselves.

[@LetoDK]

It's cheaper for them to just pay him to wear the t-shirt.

[@strangerdanger8462]

Do we know for sure that it isn't a robot from Boston Dynamics? Huh? Do we? 🤔🤔

[@AbderrahmanFodili]

That explains the stutter

[@MrNicePotato]

Does that mean in all the other scenes the Marques is actually the robot, and the real one only shows up when filming the "talk to self" part?

[@rezeno5665]

Detroit: Become Human

[@yezakd]

As a healthcare consultant that (before covid) traveled every week for work, I migrated to the iPad Pro and used it as a laptop replacement for years. I didn't create documents or artifacts from scratch. My role at this point was managing teams and reviewing, editing, and improving documents and artifacts my teams created. I could do everything I needed with an instant on, always connected tablet that was 1/4 the weight and size of my laptop. Plus it was far less intimidating to sit with a client or customer and take notes with a pen on my screen than to sit there and click clack away on a laptop keyboard. All that said. I still use the a 2nd generation iPad Pro. It does everything I need.

[@LazyEngineerYT]

looks like you are an enthusiastic user cause all stuff you mentioned can be done on regular ipad, air or even samsungs lower end tablets.

[@aseannessienot]

The ipad pro has the best ipad experience so I don't blame people spending that amount of money

[@ydid687]

@@aseannessienot "blame"

[@sudbtd]

@@LazyEngineerYT It also looks like you don't like apple.

[@vxnguyen2334]

@@sudbtd why? because he/she is telling the truth you don't like?

[@djrollerx81]

As someone who just bought their first ever iPad, I wanted the most features and the best device I could get. I won't get another chance to get a device like this for a long time, so yeah the M2 makes the most sense for me. Obviously it's not a meaningful upgrade for someone that bought an iPad in the last couple years, but it's a great starting point for new owners.

[@Only_Some]

Had mine a little over a year and love it. Got the pen with and a the M kb yet i hardly use it. But when i go to use it, I’m happy I invested

[@fpgmatthew]

I genuinely love the alliteration you come up with to conclude each video

[@aditya95sriram]

You mean you absolutely adore all the alliterations appearing after the actual argument of all his videos? Me too :)

[@hhrq._.q]

@@aditya95sriram you deserve a like mate

[@TheBiancaPariyar]

Marques what can I say you never stop to inspire me. I am not a tech savy just a general consumer and I know there are millions of individuals like me who just want a non biased and no nonsense review of the product and you just simply deliver a great content for us in a simple way and bonus it is free. I am grateful for what you do. Thank you so much Marques.

[@dvdbrito]

Yeah, he gives us some of the best reviews on KZbin!

[@BCF_AswinKumarPG]

Yesss 💯

[@merorbb]

I was just about to say that. Thanks!

[@Sloimer]

Bot

[@thetruth9803]

I think the small improvements are just for those that just happen to buy a new tablet this year and are not meant to encourage you to upgrade from the previous ipad. Even for iphones I think only a small percentage upgrate every year when the new Gen comes out but for tablet users this number is probably still a alot smaller.

[@KingTalha]

Why wouldn’t that person just buy a $300 less ipad

[@agusugian]

@@KingTalha funny how the M2 is on the same price in my country

[@zeusx6479]

@@KingTalha Because it doesn't have 120hz

[@kninezbanks]

​@@KingTalha Because some people prefer the large 12.9" screen, or do a lot of photo/video editing and prefer every bit of performance, or they want the Mini-led display, or they want Lidar for 3D mapping...thunderbolt for faster drives...There are many reasons to want the bigger one.

[@TediBearProductions]

The real question is why not buy an M1 iPad Pro for a huge discount and then sell that when the M3 iPad Pro gets released.

[@piereligio_ds]

I find it so crazy that iPad never had hovering and nobody until now mentioned it comparing it with the competition... that's a critical feature to have for digital drawing

[@Reactor10k]

It's not a critical to have feature for digital drawing. It's a nicety.

[@mitchellcobcroft1884]

Lol critical. Obviously, nothing was produced on the iPad Pro with the pencil prior to this feature.

[@TheHollowedArtist]

I got by for years without it, but now that it’s actually on iPad, I’m glad they joined the party cuz I really enjoy using Procreate. Especially now I don’t have room for my big wacom tablet in my current room. Plus more power means more layers I can add the tiniest things on and then lose in the unnamed layers

[@colmarek]

It's only critical for tablets that don't have a screen.

[@Abby.l.l]

I have it on my Wacom and when I started drawing on my M1 iPad I didn’t even realise it was missing. It may be critical for some, but definitely not all.

[@loneagent6047]

This man's intro game is the best I've seen on any KZbin channel. The whole team deserves the biggest round of applause!

[@mogalematloga]

Don't forget the outros with the Alliteration Truly The Top Thing To Think about.

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Jesus Christ is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. They that believeth and are baptized (with the Holy Spirit) shall be saved; but they that believeth not shall be damned. Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. 👍🏾 *God is ONE manifesting himself as THREE;* the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! *For these three are one.* As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him. Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

When you trust in God and cast your cares (worries, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts) upon him, they will be NO MORE! Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! The world is wicked, evil, and of the devil. I too, was a wicked sinner of the world before I opened my heart to God. I am living proof of God's work and fruitfulness! He is an active God who hears the prayers of his! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous. The devil is a liar that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy; that includes your relationship with God. Open your heart to God, repent of your sins (he will forgive you), and let him direct your path. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands and purify your heart, lest you walk with the devil and follow him to hell.

[@carrerakiid]

I use my M1 iPad Pro for DJ gigs and it’s THE BEST. Simple easy to take a move around, small footprint, large BRIGHT screen, and I can use my hands to interact with the software. Plus my turntable connect DIRECTLY to the usb c port. Super convenient, and powerful. That’s what the pro means too me.

[@rawpeee]

What dj app do u use

[@robertschnobert9090]

​@@rawpeee probably Algoriddim DJay. The most popular app for DJs 🌈

[@naigewrona]

Rekordbox?

[@emmgeevideo]

Both dudes deserve the massive 16.4M audience. Informative, interesting, insightful, and enjoyable to watch. Great production values. None of the fluff and "I'm so cool" (I'm talking to you Rene) vibe of some tech creators.

[@tronam]

Aww, Rene isn’t braggadocios, but he does have a weird way of talking. I listened to him for years on the Macbreak podcast and his odd colloquialisms are present in his normal speech too. :)

[@auliamate]

Rene isn't a "I'm so cool" type of guy, he just talks in a odd manner

[@zadsazhad]

I think the best part about his video is the quality. I mean he shoot in RED camera but damn worth it

[@ericanderson1753]

I’m here for Rene’s defense, too! Haha.

[@edoalva48]

To be fair they're on different level. I mean by number, not class.

[@aynapaisley]

When I learned that the brush cursor (that dot that shows the size of the brush when you hold the pencil over the screen) is literally the newest feature on the latest iPad pro I couldn't believe it, because I had it since forever on my very old Samsung tablet that I mostly been using for drawing and was looking to replace it. It literally sounded like wow look at this awesome beast of a device with the newest M2 chip - it shows where your brush is going to land and how the colors are blending. Still makes me giggle, despite the fact I actually bought the thing in the end. Whaaat? It's future proof and all..

[@YouGotPropofol]

How are you liking that amazing stage manager? Better than snapping windows anywhere Yuh want right? 😅

[@burningwp]

How would you say your art or art process improved but switching tablets?

[@bradavon]

@@YouGotPropofol Samsung OneUI app/window management does more than snap windows, a lot more. Dude you don't even know what you're comparing 🤦

[@YouGotPropofol]

@@bradavon I think you may have a reading comprehension problem. I was referring to Stage Manager on the iPad being horrendous. It’s sarcasm. Clearly windows and Samsung windows snapping is light years ahead of iOS stage manager.

[@DasaniSaltWater]

Oh my god not againnnn 😑

[@kevinjacobkurian8707]

Thanks

[@hankfish7881]

I'm an industrial design student and I use my iPad to do concept sketches every day, and some days for 6+ hours a day. I use Adobe Fresco so I can also further edit it a little in Photoshop very easily. I have the M1 and definitely not getting the M2. The last studio I interned at uses digital sketches (although some prefer pen and paper), so the "professional" is definitely there for some people.

[@rokko_fable]

pen & paper is still better.

[@Asterius_101]

@@rokko_fable it's all just personal preference at the end of the day though, isn't it?

[@rokko_fable]

@@Asterius_101 digital things are always new and exciting and enticing... But they're never actually a better experience than the real deal. That is true for everything you can think of.

[@hankfish7881]

@@rokko_fable I agree that physical media is more fun, and collaborating in person can be easier with pen and paper sometimes. But with hybrid work it is just much easier to share digital drawings instead of scanning them in

[@rokko_fable]

@@hankfish7881 the other nice thing is you can input very precise measurements in digital, and easily rotate around 3d representations.

[@trentasaurus5478]

I remember when I got my Samsung Tab 6 Lite over 2 years ago and it came with the free S-pen with a similar hover feature. Clearly the amount of power and CPU required to get that to work is tremendous

[@matthewtrebs9738]

Man my samsung galaxy s5 phone from 2014 had a hover feature and you didnt even need a pen Reminds me of how apple is finally getting always on displays for iphone when androids have had it for like 7 years

[@so7o3o4]

@@matthewtrebs9738Nokia have AOD like 11 years ago.

[@lordwafflesthegreat]

@@matthewtrebs9738 Actually, the S4 had that feature first. I remember using it on my craptastic Samsung Galaxy Core LTE.

[@icsux]

The hover feature is available on Samsung TAB from at least 8 years ago :)))

[@ConnorDunhamFilms]

@@matthewtrebs9738 Still rocking the Samsung Galaxy S5 now? I still use mine as a second phone even though it's 9 years old now.

[@karoisart9266]

I had the normal ipad 2020 and as an artist I work with a lot of layers, up to 200 sometimes. But at like 70 layers I had to stop and switch to the PC because it wasn't powerful enough. This is why I wanted to upgrade to an ipad pro. And didn't want to risk it with the M1 one, because My drawings keep getting more complicated the better I get, so I waited for the M2 one and till now I haven't had any problems. I was able to finish my drawings on my new ipad and the big screen was also a great improvement compared to before:)

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

Like Picasso said: "if you can't paint with one layer what are you doing step bruh"

[@conman1395]

That's silly. There's nothing the M2 can do the M1 can't. It's just slightly faster

[@jubayerwasidraiyan5874]

one of the rare few instances where the ipad pro is being used to its potential lmao.

[@Xfade81]

Lot of layers have become useless by 200 of em.

[@atxridebranding9819]

Thank you for sharing. This guy is who the iPad Pro is made for. It’s not that complicated it for graphic artist like what the confusion?

[@sadikspencer5358]

The fact Marques still uses an A12Z iPad Pro and it suits his demands of an iPad makes me feel soooo much more comfortable with my purchase of a lightly used one for next to nothing.

[@jayavionharris]

They even brought stage manager to it, making my m1 iPad Pro purchase completely useless. There was no reason to spend the extra $250

[@onefm1]

I'm in construction, and I also do photography. I can make a point that construction drawings have always been pretty intensive on tablets, and also top photo editing software. I feel confident after purchasing the M2 iPad that I will be able to run everything in a fluid manner.

[@TheTechGiantYouTube]

What does Pro even mean? It means a lot of PROfit for Apple!

[@sc4rl3t30]

Ayyy

[@truthfactreality6814]

I just upgraded from a 2018 pro. I’ve got the 1tb m2 pro. It’s so fast ! I use mine for music production

[@34disorder84]

As an avid Clip Studio user the pen hover is a *godsend*. All the icons and buttons are super tiny and seeing where the pen will land should greatly minimize miss-inputs. First time i'm inclined to upgrade since getting the 2019 pro.

[@tharunsushreeth8213]

I think Samsung had been doin it for a long time

[@matthewtrebs9738]

@@tharunsushreeth8213 i had it (and i think always on display) on my samsung phone in 2014 with no pen. Hearing about the release just suprises me that apple didnt have it yet

[@wreespace]

The iPad wasn't worth it till Hover. I am now waiting for one more update, which is the Apple pencil update. Hopefully, they add custom macro buttons to the pencil, the two taps to switch isn't enough. After that, it would be at par with a Cintiq. Art Studio, Clip Studio, and Procreate are already amazing, and Fontself just needs a couple of bug fixes and updates.

[@freezingicy9457]

@@wreespace an ipad will never be at par with a Cinitiq

[@corneliussmith5875]

I can’t lie I waited on the 2020 iPad Pro and honestly for my daily workflow it was wayyy more power then I expected. It was is my first iPad ever so I can’t compare to m1 or m2 iPad pros but I have never felt like my device has lagged or anything. 2 years later and it has been nothing but smooth. Honestly if you have a iPad Pro from 2018 or newer iPad just by first glance upgrading is hard to justify unless it’s to a different display size.

[@lirfrank]

The two things I wished it had are the Surface-style keyboard and the horizontal-oriented camera they just gave to the base-model iPad. The hover feature is something I'm a little surprised it didn't already have, it's good they added it.

[@abhinavmukherjee2897]

That would kind of get in the way of the Apple pencil charging spot.

[@dq3n]

ikr because on a samsung tablet thats nearly 3 years old which is not flagship for then it still has hover mode, maybe not as advanced but has it and does mostly the same things

[@shreyas__]

I wish apple would just copy the surface dial. It's sooooo gooooood.

[@mohyeldin8085]

@@dq3n what are you talking about man, I had a Tablet called note 8 in 2013 and it had the Hover mode

[@dq3n]

@@mohyeldin8085 even better, like wtf apple saying ur alllllll cool when ur 9 years late

[@budmonk2819]

The last iPad I bought was the original iPad Pro 9.7 and it still blazes through anything I use it for (mostly Netflix and reading and the occasional game). So given the long cycle of usage I am able to get out of it, I bought the new iPad Pro 11 2022 edition with the M2. I wanted the M1, but the price difference was $50. So I hope to get another 7 years of usage from that. After a long line of cheap Android tablets, this is the one apple product I don't mind spending cash on.

[@leospath]

Which app and brush tool is he using 4:11 Is it apple notes app , it has watercolor brush?

[@stewiex]

Shhh... They will hear you and push a self destruct call to your tablet!!!! I'm half joking.

[@Johannes295]

@@leospath it’s the apple notes app :)

[@sourangshusarkar5943]

So if you tried 'cheap' Android tablets, why didn't you buy a flagship one, and then tell whether there was any noticeable difference between them and the iPad pros?

[@arihantbhattacharjee]

@@sourangshusarkar5943 *Galaxy tab S8 ultra intensifies*

[@diesertyp7822]

Glad to hear that you're still using the 12Z/ 2020 Ipad Pro. I've also been using mine for 2.5 years and I've looked at every ipad launch since, but I just don't see a good reason to upgrade. Arguably I underuse my Ipad, using it mainly for note taking, reading and watching KZbin, but unless there is a major improvement to the Apple Pencil, the battery or the Ipad eventually becomes a worthy laptop/desktop replacement I'll be using my 2020 Ipad Pro untill it dies.

[@frankmastroianni3351]

same here! i bought my 12z in nov 2020 and i’ve loved using it ever since

[@leospath]

Hi can u tell me Which app and brush tool is he using 4:11 Is it apple notes app , it has watercolor brush?

[@Cristianomare]

I've got a 2018 Ipad Pro, the first with the refreshed design, and it's still a beast. No reason to change for now. I''ll upgrade when I feel like I need the window/desktop features. Not anytime soon

[@leospath]

@@Cristianomare Hi can u tell me Which app and brush tool is he using 4:11 Is it apple notes app , it has watercolor brush?

[@W0nTonSoup]

Honestly no need to upgrade from that iPad to this one

[@ouch1011]

The update from the A-processor to the M1 was a *massive* upgrade on the iPad Pro, an upgrade worth doing. My M1 iPad Pro benchmarks higher and has noticeably better 3D graphics than my 11th Gen Intel i7 laptop (without a discrete gpu) that was bought around the same time (and cost more). Most people could legitimately replace their laptop with an iPad Pro, especially if they would narrow the gap between MacOS and iPadOS. I use my iPad more than my laptop for basic tasks. The only thing it is missing is the app support, which keeps it feeling more like a tablet and less like a computer, even though the performance and specs of the iPad are way more like a computer than a tablet. The M2 update feels like a typical Apple update. Most the stuff is the same, but new processor and a couple gimmicky features. Not really enough to justify an update for a reasonable person, but there are so many Apple fanatics out there who simply must have the newest thing, so they’ll sell a ton.

[@peraman2022]

The Ipad pros can most certainly replace a laptop for many people. From both a, hardware and software point of view. It's just a matter of knowing what your workflow is like and what you want to be done. Platforms are chosen often times based on the apps that someone wants to run.

[@dharmaandra4720]

@Kevin Berg,whats inch!?

[@CricketEngland]

Yea but the price is ridiculous after all to purchase a iPad Pro 12.9 with apple pencil and Smart Keyboard and 2TB SSD (to replace a laptop) is £3,017.00 and that just the Wifi only version. Just imagine what kinda laptop you can get for that money, just proves how much Apple rip off their customers.

[@CricketEngland]

@@peraman2022 To purchase a iPad Pro 12.9 with apple pencil and Smart Keyboard and 2TB SSD (to replace a laptop) is £3,017.00 and that just the Wifi only version. Just imagine what kinda laptop you can get for that money, just proves how much Apple rip off their customers.

[@skylovescars69420]

@@CricketEngland most laptops in that price range are still built like shit however.

[@gangsterboy3664]

I adore Marques iPad reviews, The way he does it is like no other

[@RealTechnoPanda]

3:14 I spilled my coffee. LOL 🤣😆

[@JohnnyBravo42]

I’m “pro” user! I bought iPad Pro m1 12.9 only for Netflix, KZbin, Games and browsing the internet. I’m totally confident that most users did the same. ….typed from iPad Pro …😅

[@zeusx6479]

For the exactly same purposes, I bought ipad pro m2 11inch. I got 11 because it is $400 cheaper than 12.9 I'm still happy with it

[@beazdakid1988]

Facts. Now I use it to record my podcast

[@jordanray1537]

That twin stuff was super incredible. You have honestly nailed it to such a natural point!

[@13eight6]

@Dm me on nicegrame Marques Brownlee12 I

[@13eight6]

@Dm me on nicegrame Marques Brownlee12 w off to use o

[@nahimgudfam]

HEY GUYS DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT THERE WAS TWO OF THE SAME GUY IN THIS VIDEO? LIKE IT WAS THE SAME GUY SITTING NEXT TO HIMSELF THAT WAS THE SAME GUY OVER THERE?

[@andrewhunt9278]

I think you’re bang on with this analysis. I am an illustrator and designer and its been the most amazing thing as a daily driver and digital sketchbook. I do use it for clients and my work flow as well but i do wonder what most people use it for.

[@li_tsz_fung]

I thought many many people draw on an iPad for work, professionally. Marques said his design will laugh at the concept of drawing with an iPad instead of wacom. I think many moved to the iPad, the younger generation especially

[@mroscar7474]

I’m using it for comics and digital art. I honestly can’t sit down at my computer to work, I gotta be able to move. With the iPad I can draw on the couch, laying down, I can take it to a park or beach and draw there while getting some sun and fresh air, I can draw at work. I with the iPad had more desktop apps with the new chip. Blender and a full fledged animation app would be great.

[@DolphinsAreBetterThanHumans]

Watching KZbin/Netflix on Toilet. Ipad Pro is the Jeep Wrangler,range rover & G-wagon of the tech world.

[@denoise47]

For animation purposes. Even so I have Pro with A12X, and it is showing age, it is capable machine,

[@mroscar7474]

@@denoise47 what app do you use?

[@Grasshoffg]

Still using the 2018 11” iPad Pro and cant imagine how any of the new iPads could do anything more other than just allow external monitor support For stage manager

[@agps4418]

congrats on being a very reasonable person. please buy insurance.

[@Luma_29]

Honestly you can imagine my reaction when I waited for this model instead of buying the M1 version for 18 months only for it to be the same

[@jackwong64]

Since the M chip, the speed bump is under Apple control, you believe M2 would be amazing like M1 vs Intel?! It’s still great against Intel but not M1. If I were Apple, I would do M1 > M2 pro/ultra > M3 > M4 pro/ultra Their M product line is a little confusing to average consumers.

[@rev_dude]

well look on the bright side, now you can buy last years model for $300 off!

[@whatsinanam]

Same! 😭

[@NopWorks]

Don't worry the new M2 chip is a massive performance improvements that boosts your workflow to the next level all in a thin tablet form factor. Your apps will work faster, which practically pays you back in time.

[@minminoppa4652]

Same. i waited for the selfie camera to be on the same place like the iPad 10, but it remained the same. Now I bought a refurbished iPad Pro M1 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@clintgolub1751]

I’m rocking a 2018 iPad Pro 11” with the A12X CPU and it still feels blazing fast even though it’s quickly approaching the half-decade mark. Minus battery degradation (it’s like 6 hours now), it still renders 4K video editing in LumaFusion from both GoPro and my iPhone via AirDrop really well. I truly believe Apple’s tablets are about as future-proof as you can get in this industry!

[@riverrock335]

I have had the pleasure of owning an iPad Pro 10.5, 256gb with an A10x chip since 2017 and I average 4 hours a day screen time. I originally paid $500 for the 2017 iPad Pro and in my book, this was a very good investment and provided untold hours of productivity and pleasure. I just ordered a 4th generation iPad Pro 11, 256 gb M2, from Costco for $819. This was nearly $300 cheaper than the Apple Store. Each person has to look at the cost benefit analysis and buy what they need/want and can afford. You can’t go wrong with an iPad if you are going to use a tablet.

[@ltl9474]

I’m a student at Uni and I just bought it! Best purchase I’ve ever made, I really love it! I think it all comes down to how you’re gonna use it… I personnally replaced my 15’ MacBook Pro I was using. So far, so good!

[@tobiasf4782]

What is your workflow? Wouldn't a regular chromebook be able to replace your macbook as well?

[@timeflex]

4:00 Hang on a second. Is that what Samsung Galaxy S4 users were enjoying back in 2013? It was called Air View -- when you hovered your finger over the email or notification to see the preview. I'm missing it so much now. But, hey! Since Apple has just reinvented it again, there is a chance to get it back on Galaxy too!

[@IceBlueLugia]

Love the videos where your twin brother comes to debate you man. You should get him on the channel more often

[@mujiii]

I feel like this new iPad is meant for artists ( but it does 100 other things for sure like gaming and editing ). Pro artists now would use this new iPad pro or the older pro for painting, animating, using it as a secondary or primary monitor when drawing. It has a great screen, great colors, and great many things. The only downside compared to the pro Wacom tablets is that iPads are technically small. Wacom tablets have massive screens.

[@joshuaeah]

Actual proper digitizer tablets have much better pen feel and response. Not to mention ADC fidelity.

[@mujiii]

@@joshuaeah Oh I see. However, they’re also much more expensive than an iPad, and you need a laptop or a PC to use them. It would be nice if Apple is heading that way to set the iPad apart from the MacBooks.

[@vegahw]

I’m an illustrator and use it for my small business everyday. I will say going from last years to this years isn’t much of an upgrade but the iPad Pro has paid for itself for me.

[@demapples6580]

@@joshuaeah Thats for the extremely expensive ones with the sole functionality of drawing. The IPad is expensive but can do a million other things. And I have an actual digital illustrator like a Wacom and the response time and feedback is an unnoticeable difference.

[@newagain9964]

Digital Artists here. Even those iPad super pro max plus is still no competition for Wacom.

[@ricachu5640]

I don't even know if Apple will ever read my opinion, but I'll say it anyway... I hope they add the top-bottom version of the multi-app screen. I mean, sure in landscape mode the side by side multiscreen will work well, but they should also realize the the top-bottom option for portrait will also bring more possibilities as to how the iPad can be utilized. Especially for the 12.9 inch. I personally would want to experience the top-bottom multiscreen when I can only lay the iPad on a smaller desk.

[@zt9233]

It's really stupid they don't do this.

[@zt9233]

Samsung does

[@Darkslayerqueen]

I was trying to figure out if that's actually an option last night while using the iPad, but was disappointed they only have screen multitasking side by side

[@matthewtrebs9738]

Apple's multitasking on ios is very poor because they dont want the ipad to compete with the macbook, they want to force you to buy both. If this is something you care about, as always there are some nice options outside of the apple ecosystem. High end samsung tablet can actually replace your laptop, comes with a free pen, and I'd argue has a nicer screen

[@DecidiousGreens]

YES

[@hollenwanderer]

The only use case I've found for the M1 Pro (and the M2 by extension) is having extra memory available when running debug builds of our iOS games - the 4-6gb you get on the iPhones often isn't quite enough, especially when you consider that the OS is going to start sending you angrily-worded messages and then kill you when you use about half of that.

[@ZackGeragosian]

I use my iPad Pro for my job every day. I do inspections for roofing and use the iPad for my measurements and presenting options to clients, signing contracts, and taking payments/credit checks. Beyond that, I use the iPad Pro as my main computer for music production (where the iPad is definitely is capable of pro level sound), gaming, video editing home videos, etc. it is definitely pro. Having that extra power, better displays, and storage absolutely are worth it for me.

[@ChocolateWings7]

May I know which size of iPad pro did you use?

[@nickyekkebus1870]

I love the MKBHD vs MKBHD, the duo I never thought I would need! Personally I use my M1 for administration and Some media consumption. So much power for something an a12 would do flawlessly.. its the appeal of having too much power and not needing it right now but hoping and secretly expecting for more pro usage

[@mplovecraft]

A guy I used to know had a Lamborghini that he loved, but it wouldn't clear the bumps to the closest grocery store. He did have a Jaguar as well, but his wife kept taking it so he got a BMW M5 for the times he wanted to go get some milk or bread. Can't have too much power. :P

[@CmRoddy]

I am a field technician for a communications company. I use the M2 iPad Pro (11”) on a daily basis while on the job. I use apps like Notability to mark up layout drawings and product drawings, as well as getting all daily notes and excel sheets upgraded. That Pencil is amazing. I don’t doubt that the M1 would serve me just as well, but this is the one my company decided to get and I am very thankful for it.

[@Pass1ngStranger]

The intro was 🔥

[@mathew_rejo]

7:44 Ipad with the Damascus skin from COD?

[@arashtaj]

I play CODM on high graphics & 120 FPS smoothly with a view many times bigger than my recent 6.7 inch mobile phone. I'm happy with it.

[@SRolla]

I have to say Marques - this intro right here was one of the best, if not THE BEST intro I’ve seen so far from you - amazingly represents what you say and mean at the same time with it, love it! And well done to you and your team!

[@leeraxd]

IMHO, M1 ipad pro is probably the best ipad they’ve ever released for the enthusiast/prosumer. It actually covered everything I ever wanted in an ipad and I do use it to make money. I own an art shop and all my designs are from Procreate. Battery lasts plenty long. I can edit reels and short videos on the go, watch videos on the beautiful mini led screen, no latency issues, M1 makes it so smooth and powerful, even when using multiple layers on procreate or Lightroom. I just don’t see myself upgrading to an M2 after 2 years with the best ipad device I’ve used for productivity. I see myself using the M1 2021 for a good 5 years honestly. And i’m someone who enjoys getting the latest and greatest, but M2 is absolutely not worth it. Apple is just so great at creating “prestige” with its consumers that people think buying the M2 will make them the cool kid. In reality, it’s not a smart money move unless you’re filthy rich. But if you don’t have an M1 iPad, and you just want a more new product, then by all means go for it. But even still, I feel like the M1 is just perfect. It’s essentially a less expensive version of the M2. I don’t know many professionals who use iPad that often. It’s more like a secondary device to their Macbook Pros or iMac pros. For me, it’s 90% Procreate use. So unless it becomes your main workhorse, I would still recommend M1. That being said, remember that M1 came out in 2021. In 5 years I totally expect there to be an M3 and an even thinner, smaller bezel iPad pro. And if it changes drastically, to me, that’s a much better investment.

[@pinkrose5286]

You hit the nail on the head. When I was drawing and making content it was literally perfect and could handle everything and now that I’ve stopped, and use it for school instead it can still function as my primary laptop, notebook, all my textbooks, and can handle some coding. I don’t think there’s anything a user couldn’t M1 that they could do with M2, besides be slightly faster which isn’t worth thousands imo.

[@Eli7PM]

I use this iPad as a second screen for work. I travel a lot but I’m used to two screens and the iPad works seamlessly as a second screen that I can easily carry around with my Mac.

[@hanefigurler]

This device could be a computer replacement for UX Designers since Figma is available on iPad and this improvement can be valuable to be able to open multiple projects/work on heavier files

[@Merro959]

Figjam is the only figma product officially supported for iPad (alongside viewing prototypes). For actual design files you need to use a third party iPad app which doesn’t handle large files as well. Also for designing at a normal productivity level you need to use keyboard shortcuts heavily.

[@benedictuswinner3995]

the feature same as the desktop one?

[@PhazonBlaxor]

Surface Pro is my computer replacement. Oh wait, it IS a fully fledged computer with all the pro apps under the sun, in a slick tablet form factor. Apple really needs to step up their game, it's a fun toy but sad as a pro device.

[@thalesnb]

Man your videos just keep getting better and more entertaining from intro to outro ❤

[@jdubdoubleu]

Suck up 🙄

[@jeffshew9233]

Hey Marques, just ran across your channel. Really awesome videos with great info, perspective and a little bit of good humor! Will be watching many more! Thanks!

[@TheOnlyIncognito]

I have the M1 chip iPad Pro and it's the best --purchase-- gift I ever had. Extremely beautiful to look at and it really does everything a student needs and not only that, it's so nice for entertainment.

[@ancientflames]

The screen glow/ light bleed of the mini oled screen is terrible for such an expensive device.

[@LazyEngineerYT]

what you use your ipad "PRO" for as a student?

[@roby2764]

@@LazyEngineerYTNote taking apps😂

[@mrbobo86]

For entertainment? Enjoy your black bars lol

[@TheOnlyIncognito]

@@mrbobo86 I don’t get black bars :)

[@MotiejusImpolevicius]

Paradoxically you like most of KZbin tech reviewers only see the iPad as any other device from the perspective of video/image editing because that’s mostly what you do. People use 12,9 iPad in other industries mostly because it’s got the biggest screen and is the most reliable tablet. Since I work with classical music a lot of professional pianists use it, because it’s the only thing big enough for scores. My crew for example runs opera shows from iPads. A big iPad is the most useful device a person dealing with sheet music can buy. You seem to think that pro = best for video editing when it’s probably just a niche use for most iPad Pro users.

[@thecapone45]

I immediately smiled when it was to Marques’ 😂 I love that.

[@prakash_77]

This video was top-notch, the expressions, choice of words, acting, everything phenomenal

[@danielwright4307]

I use my iPad for business on Shapr3D, Nomad Sculpt, Luma Fusion and Affinity suite as well as a secondary display for my MacBook. I wouldn’t be where I am today without my iPad m1 for one reason or another. I’d say it has a ton of utility for pro users who need mobility and can leverage the iPad apps to their fullest.

[@DefenderOfLogic]

I guess it depends on ones profession. Artist, Architect, 3D Artist, Product Designer, Editorial Photographer, Authors etc would have great use for this. Anyone outside of that would have be fine with the basics.

[@manart6506]

Yeah If I can avoid going to desktop and design in the iPad I prefer the iPad.

[@antman7673]

No other device has the vast array of input and connectivity than the iPad Pro. Touch, Pencil, Keyboard, Voice Control, Camera, 5G, Bluetooth. If life is a speedrun, my iPad makes it a tool assisted speedrun. An additional mini is very helpful. Insane mobility. I go for 2h walks watching lectures one-handed without discomfort. The data is synced via Cloud, so I can work on the mini during the train commute and resume at a table on the pro.

[@aventine62]

I use Shapr3D and LumaFusion on my M1 for my business as well. I particularly love Shapr3D. You’re the second person I’ve seen mention Nomad, I wonder if I should check it out. But yeah the touch and Pencil input is great, I love designing on the iPad and being able to do it anywhere from a couch to a park. Amazing tool.

[@captureinsidethesound]

@@antman7673 , my 2017 iPad Pro (A10X) was a serious workhorse but when the loop of death happned and Apple didnt take responsibility for it considering its was a design flaw, I started looking for alternatives because that was $1200 down the drain with only 5 months use. Recently, I gave the iPad Pro M1, Surface Pro and Samsung S8 a reasonable amount of time testing with various apps. At first the first drawback from me not getting a Windows or Android tablet was the lack of Procreate and its new 3D painting feature but then I heard about Nomad Sculpt and the S8 got my pick. The S8 is just simply more comfortable and the pen feels more like an actual ink pen than the clunky iPad Pencil. Plus, the pen COMES WITH the S8 so its a complete package, unlike the iPad "Pro". My friend who is a tattoos artist also stated the S-Pen was a clear winner for her when she tried my older Samsung S6 that i got a quick fix while shopping for a more pro-level alternative. She mentioned that when she purchased her 2018 iPad Pro for drawing that she was blown away that the iPad Pro wasn't really "Pro" until she purchased the Apple Pencil, at least in her scenario and likely many others who are artist.

[@TrAnMu]

That Enthusiastic User vs Professional User breakdown is exactly me. Lol. I have the iPhone 14 Pro, AirPods Pro, and iPad Pro because I like the higher end shiny thing but I have the MacBook Pro for my actual work. It’s wild how much you nailed that.

[@zeusx6479]

@@rspec122 bro chill, nothing wrong in wanting the latest devices

[@TrAnMu]

@@rspec122 lmao. Till the day I die. Baaaaaaa.

[@jujutang]

i could never , i just care about if its good quality

[@stefos6431]

I would never use a laptop for my actual work......bringing private work in a public place? Nope

[@tokhenz]

@@stefos6431 Having a laptop doesn't mean you have to use it in public spaces or go out with it. A lot of people are using laptop as their Desktop (i don't know why tho, maybe it's cool?) so they leave them at home an plug it to a monitor.

[@ie_kp]

As a pre med college student I use an M1 iPad Pro with the 2nd gen Apple Pencil and it works perfectly. I use it in tandem with a MacBook Air and the iPad is seriously the most versatile tool for school work and other hobbies (like painting and using the lidar measurements for quick room scans for interior design).

[@daves1412]

Absolutely superb. Easily the best KZbinr out there. Brilliant, inquiring journalism. Nice and short, yet also the treatment of the topic is deep. Perfect.

[@theTECHIEE]

Always with the perfect intros!

[@jamshediqbal7936]

Marques deserves that many subscribers because his way of describing the tech is simply amazing and fully informative which can make us decide whether to go for a specific device/tech or not. Good job Marques Brownlee!

[@misticnumberone]

Bros trying to get a like from Marques 💀

[@nahimgudfam]

HEY GUYS DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT THERE WAS TWO OF THE SAME GUY IN THIS VIDEO? LIKE IT WAS THE SAME GUY SITTING NEXT TO HIMSELF THAT WAS THE SAME GUY OVER THERE?

[@BF2FanNo1]

Can anyone tell me what app what that at 0:42?

[@ToHoldBabylon]

I also really wanna know😮

[@WillJBailey]

The IPad Pro + Procreate is a fantastic professional digital art tool, I much prefer it to Wacom + Photoshop. There’s a beautiful simplicity to it - it’s much closer to working with physical media, and the Apple Pencil is way nicer than Wacom’s stylus. Would love a 15” though.

[@TJCCBR47]

I still think it’s incredible people be able do draw with Wacom having their input separated from the displays

[@WillJBailey]

@@TJCCBR47 it’s doable just about. But the price of the screen-based Cintiq has come down a lot

[@JeromeDemers]

I am still using the 1st 12.9" ipad pro and that was not long ago dec 2015. This new pen feature is really good idea, preview the shape or location before touching is great idea!

[@alexwr]

The trouble is that if you're an artist, you know that having a pen preview is a really basic feature, so it's just frustrating that it's only on the M2 iPads. The Galaxy Notes have been doing this for ever, its a feature that really shouldn't be excluded because you can have this feature on any device that supports an active stylus.

[@JeromeDemers]

@@alexwr i think they had that feature working internally for long time but was not to Apple standard. Not ready for prime time. Something Hardware or software made it possible. Could of been at bottom of priority too. I notice the effect preview with the hover of the pen. That is an example of a great use of that feature which are details like this that apple likes.

[@-TheMaskedMan-]

Thank you for making the well NEEDED video. This thing can do way more than they allow it to.

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

The hover is not there? Samsung Note 3 from like ... 2013 does that What the hell!

[@peterjones4621]

Well done! Entertaining and educational, love your videos, keep em coming! I just bought the ipad Pro 12.9, kind of wish I'd waited for the new one that's coming out soon but I was too impatient. Enjoyed the video, take care!

[@darkstepwarrior88]

nice review, i woulld be stronger if you invited another pro who can explain what might be an advantage of the m2 chip in this ipad pro.

[@twosinister]

The hover thing is not similar to some professional tablets but it first came out on the samsung note phones and the samsung tab tablets

[@webcow]

I have been an iPad Pro user since 2018. It started with a simple use case of being the entertainment device for home. Then I learned I can design on it, so all my UI designs were done on it. Then sidecar came and it also became the second screen to separate work tasks from workplace collaboration. Then I started taking all my meetings from it. And it also became the go to notepad. Then I got myself gitpod and now I could also code on it. If you are a software professional, the iPad Pro can replace a lot of other things for you if you really give it a fair shot.

[@Samuelhgflax]

What are you using for ui designs? I do everything in Figma right now and would love a more mobile alternative

[@webcow]

@@Samuelhgflax Depending on your preference and task at hand, you can choose between Figma, Sketch, Concepts, Miro.

[@DuppyShots]

I still have my original 2018 iPad Pro 11inch which I bought in 2019. Runs beautifully still, minus minor dip in battery life but won’t buy another iPad for some time

[@sinisalomikko]

Ipad pro is hands down the best mobile art tablet you can buy. I´ve been doing drawing,painting and digital sculpting on ipads for years now. Apps are constantly getting better and more ”pro” so i can definitely see where this platform is going. It´s just interesting to see how long apple will keep ipadOS and OSX separate things..

[@DigitalVG]

What are you using for digital sculpting on iPad? Love some recommendations to try out. Thanks!

[@sinisalomikko]

@@DigitalVG Nomad sculpt is by far the best one. It´s ridiculously cheap for the features it packs.

[@joawesome2319]

For drawing, I think Samsung have done better because they always had the hovering feature with their S pen and tablets

[@Mark_T_Winther]

My guess is that they will keep those os'es seperete forever. At some point, one will just die - but i don't think they will ever release an iPad with MacOS, or a MacBook with iOS. I'm hoping.. but i doubt it.

[@Ghostrider-ul7xn]

@@Mark_T_Winther I think at some point, they'll merge the features of both into one and release them on both.

[@Itskarue]

Just like you said, some people bend it around the iPad limitations. I'm one of those people. I run a KZbin channel about tennis and shoot a lot at 4k 60 and the iPad is the best device for editing IMO. M1 + lumafusion breezes through the large files plus having the touch screen helps with my workflow. Definitely some drawbacks but I've made it work nicely. The iPad pro is very niche but I enjoy the hell out of mine!

[@Antoniogut]

do you use the 11 or 12.9? Curious if that mini led screen is really worth the price jump

[@nascentnaga]

I also edit tennis... I use a laptop tho I can't imagine using an ipad for that

[@TheGlobalProfessional]

Are you going to switch to Davinci when it cones to iPad or just stick with Lumafusion? I do all my editing on the iPad, so I only really know Lumafusion

[@eldarmamedov155]

I am still using my 2018 iPad pro and love it. Back than it was totally worth the upgrade

[@jaym4290]

I think the ipad pro is the perfect back up product for true professionals but also a great product for starting independent creators. I do most of my professional work on it. I personally don’t like laptops anymore and im from the 90ties 😅 with the pencil and a pair of good wired headphones there is no excuse to not be creative/productive if you have a couple of minutes to spare. The machine has zero limitations great videos photos and audio productions grafic design, architecture etc all in the palm of your hand! Thats magic

[@adnans3222]

Agree, what kind of work do u primarily use it for?

[@Keither754]

1:02 I actually really like that it says “iPad Pro” on this model and “iPad Air” on the Air and etc. It’s a very small change but I think it’s a nice cosmetic touch

[@celest1945]

I love the iPad so much, it’s my main computer (I have a MacBook Pro as well) and as a student and an artist and OH MY GOD as a student it’s amazing and helps me so much and I love it so much.

[@officialWilliamJones]

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[@ivanmoren3643]

I think this is in line with the dynamic island approach. Slowly making things better without feeling the need to make it all at once in a bundle.

[@GenAndrei]

I adore my Galaxy Tab S7+. Pencil included and doesn't need charging and everything is immaculate.

[@angelant96]

For me it comes down to two important things: 1. What are you gonna use it for? 2. How much are you willing to pay? I’m very satisfied with my 4th gen iPad Air and I’ve had it since 2020. I do a lot with it and I’ve had zero problems. If I ever upgrade to a pro version it would solely be because of the screen size, since I draw a lot and use it as my main note-taking device. There’s no need to pay more for something you know you won’t really need.

[@TJWasiuk]

The M2 iPad Pro is my first iPad Pro and I mostly purchased it for my business, art projects, video creation, and to future proof for at least 6 years. Ive had it since launch and I’m super impressed. I feel the iPad is becoming more and more like the MacBook every year.

[@captureinsidethesound]

Bro, you have the most logical comment ive seen about the iPad in general. You clearly know what investing into a product actually means. The iPad M1 and M2 version are serious overkill in processing power for a tablet and even a laptop so your investment was wise. Unfortunately, many buy the iPad Pro and then "upgrade" within a year or two and that not an investment in my opinion because they should have just went with standard iPad considering they likely will never need its processing power, let alone the Pro version. You for instance are a true "Pro" user so its a wise purchase.

[@PhazonBlaxor]

@@captureinsidethesound I invested into Surface Pro instead. It runs full desktop pro software iPad doesn't have. It's quite ironic that I develop games for mobile devices such as iPad on a competing tablet, because iPad itself cannot do that. What iPad needs is software, more power means nothing if it cannot do anything I need my device to do.

[@luanmaia]

To me the ipad pro is hardcore pro. I use it for work all the time, i actually love it for working.

[@nika_251]

Whats your work?

[@htenthusiast2897]

I just upgraded from the A12Z Pro to the M2 and am enjoying the much improved battery life, yes it’s quite better with greatly improved speakers, and a little snappier browsing, everything else is pretty much the same. Was it worth the upgrade? Yes with the trade in, otherwise no. Furthermore the next iteration should be more expensive and more focused on landscape use.

[@mikeyestrada1674]

Affinity designer for the iPad Pro replaced my use to design on my MacBook Pro 14 10core 1tb. Let’s you know you don’t need a Mac and we can just use the iPad for day to day uses. It’s really about what apps to use.

[@NOTASCOOLASME]

Every time I am having a tech dilemma, Marques comes out with a video that just hits the nail on the head! I am in the market for an iPad for school, and I found an amazing deal on the 4th gen 12.9 in ipad pro from 2020, but here I am thinking "it's almost 3 years old, is it still gonna be any good??" But sounds like it's still perfectly capable!! Take my money!! Lolol

[@R4IN3Y]

I know this is an old comment but I recently took advantage of the deal on this IPad and have loved it for school it has been a great tool for my entire fall semester!

[@ileanaluna4491]

I use mine for photography and videography. I just love the fact i dont have to take a laptop to the project but can air drop to the macbook and see it on the display. The ecosystem just works.

[@arjunachar6812]

0:40 MKBHD’s ultimate instincts taking over looks like he’s going to throw the iPad 😂

[@aboudi0507]

extremely like the twin skit, very cool way to show the differences between old and new, would like to see more of it!

[@mattriarchal]

As the tech guy amongst my circles, that intro is exactly how the convo goes when friends or family ask me about getting themselves the new ipad pro

[@Aceofthedynasty]

Impressive alliteration at the end there. It was ingenious in its implementation. Instantly incredible and important information. 👍

[@MrNGWright]

Great video as always, always like seeing the twin. I'm an Architect who uses advanced 3D modeling and AR in the field, and certain programs only run well on the iPad Pro. Even the new iPad Air with M1 isn't enough to cut it sometimes when working with point clouds and the like.

[@Deerok14]

What 3d programs do you use?

[@Leanzazzy]

@@Deerok14Literally all professional engineering applications run mainly on Windows so you can guess what sort of "architect" he is.

[@nitesh-maharaj]

@@Leanzazzy I guess he can have a Windows machine in his office and an iPad in the field. He's probably a fake architect, because he uses an iPad. LOL

[@enzocaputodevos]

Music console is one of it’s greatest feature as all drawing app… in short it’s designed for artists

[@BoGy1980]

Then again, an ipad is NOT a computer. If you'd buy a computer/laptop that cost half of the IPAD pro, things would run even better (if you'd use the tools that work best on that hardware). You clearly are another believer that crapple isn't scamming all its customers. (which they do, they lie to you, deceive you, and you just think that's all OK...) And don't even try to say apple is "good" ... they're gonna be sorry in the end for how they treat people like u.... the best example of how they lie to you: Giving you the OPTION to disable tracking, and when u disable it; No company can track u anymore except that apple is tracking your every move on your devices even when they said you could stop tracking, apple users are slaves of the device; it's apple that dictates what you can or cannot do and they decide how much privacy you have (which is NONE). crapple lied for so many years and was very good at covering things up, but this time they got busted and they don't realise it yet how expensive all their lies are going to be, because this discovery of illegal tracking just opened the door for the whole world to start looking deeper into apple, their secrets are going to be exposed and if you have apple stock, SELL THEM cuz they gonna plummet in the coming years... Rebuy them when the scandals are happening and you'll earn lots of money when apple in the end recovers. Remember the supermassive fines Microsoft had to pay all over the world (especially Europe)? This time we're talking about a company that's making a lot more money and is violating privacy rights in almost every country it's selling it's devices... how do you think this will end?

[@deveshraj18]

Nice to see Marques collaborating with small creators like MKBHD.

[@ohreally4467]

3:47 So you need to buy the new one for a simple feature Samsung implemented on their tablets 13 years ago...

[@PaceFineArts]

I agree with what many say here, getting the newest and strongest one is an advantage if you plan on holding on to the devices for a long time. I have the 2018 - 11in iPad Pro which I bought in 2019 and it still runs beautifully. I plan on using it for at least 7 years or until there's a major (design and function) update. I'm happy with it. Couldn't bother less about the cameras, for all I care they could chuck it... 😂

[@M82RKY]

I agree, As long as I can still email, run the basic apps and play games on my 2020 Pro which it should be ok with, I'll keep mine for another 3 or 4 years

[@PaceFineArts]

@@M82RKY right, they are fantastic machines, even if apple have to sell the newer ones as so superior...

[@hokuwong]

I’ve been waiting to decide on getting the M1 vs M2 chips. Nearly 100% of my professional photography work is processed through my 2018 A12x iPad Pro but I’ve been curious about whether I’d see a noticeable performance difference with the upgrade. Food for thought still I suppose

[@captureinsidethesound]

Not really, The A12X is overkill as it is for a iOS tablet. Apple has all that power in a tablet but yet not one native app that taps into its full potential. Adobe doesn't seem to care about an optimized application for iPad Pro M-Series and likely because it would confuse and upset those using standard iPad models. Imagine seeing a "iPad Pro M-Series" only version of an Adobe application for advanced features. Its would be a mess in the reviews.

[@kvendy]

I'm using Affinity V2 apps with my A12Z iPad and never planning for an upgrade for years, + I would invest my money in actual workstation PC or laptop

[@ladyhollman9534]

If you have a nearby Apple Store, go in and check it out for yourself. That’s the surest way to tell.

[@Snakyy1]

My math teacher at my school has an iPad Pro with a pencil. He uses it when students have questions and draws graphs and shapes. Sometimes shares the screen to the smart whiteboard as well and take screenshots of what we went through and give it to us, which isn’t really possible unless you take a photo of the board every time before erasing it. It’s really good honestly and it doesn’t waste paper. I guess that’s a “pro” use case

[@morgenstern7285]

You can do that on every iPad

[@Snakyy1]

@@morgenstern7285 yes but you can’t get the 12” screen size on every