iPhone 15 Pro VS Cinema Camera *SO CLOSE*

#iphone15pro #proreslog #sonyfx30
Let's compare the color coming out of the new iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max to Sony's FX30. Everything was shot on the iPhone in ProRes LOG, and the FX30 was shooting Slog3. Both were set to auto exposure and white balance. The Sony had a Sigma 16-28 f2.8 lens at 16mm to match the iPhone 24mm equivalent 1x lens. This might be a wonderful option for social media shooting as you can use the iPhone as the vertical camera mounted to your 16:9 main camera.
Let me know what you think!

[@sloppysteaks]

My iPhone color grading tutorial is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amTYqo2DhtBqgZY

[@martinowong]

the iPhone lens flare gave it away for me, but wow these look so close, I love how the log allows to not have that intense 'iPhone look'

[@Polymind]

Yeah, for me too, I saw that bokeh but didn't think much of it but that flare that went across the shot gave it away.

[@sloppysteaks]

If you’re looking at lens stuff you’re caring about the wrong thing imo 🤷‍♂️ I could have shot t1.2 on a cinema lens on the fx30. That’s not the point of the comparison.

[@Polymind]

True, they are very close in colour. I was just pointing out an observation and thus didn't think much of it. The next thing apple should care about is fixing that lens flare. Also, really liking your grade, the colours are so nice.

[@sloppysteaks]

@@Polymind small optics i dont think they can without doing some sort of computational removal in the image pipeline.

[@lizandrosmedia]

Same. I couldn’t notice the difference until I saw the flare

[@dougmorato]

Could tell straight away due to the much better stabilization on the iPhone. The iPhone footages actually look really good, especially shooting in ProRes, which get rid of that super sharpened look.

[@benjimenlockwood]

It does look good but the highlights give it away. The roll off on the Sony is amazing. But I must say for a phone they’re definitely catching up.

[@saturateddepictions]

The difference in sharpness quality was the most immediate giveaway for me at the beginning of the video. The iPhone sharpness causes a bit of aliasing on some of the more fine edges. Still, very impressive considering the camera is just one of the many features the iPhone has.

[@sloppysteaks]

I think it’s just about color. The other stuff is for tech nerds, nobody else would care.

[@saturateddepictions]

@@sloppysteaks Facts I agree with you on that. The colors look nearly identical on my screen.

[@TristanLaughton]

Totally agree. Side by side comparisons are pointless. Every camera on the market right now can produce amazing results. With all that said, the iPhone 15 Pro looks pretty good!

[@seabedrock]

Creativity > Equipment

[@BenjiSelby]

Yeah, I agree, for what the 15 pro is and the way media is changing you can't go wrong with it paring the footage now that log is available. I love this kit, the FX30 with the 15 Pro is a solid kit for a solo creator and most people outside the pixel peepers would have their mind blown to see what you can do with a phone now. Like you said mixing the footage would pretty much be seamless now. I loved this bro, I've been considering upgrading to this kit recently, and your video has helped me a lot.

[@sloppysteaks]

Love to hear it. Holler if you have any questions.

[@thegadgetdude]

A lot closer than I thought, I usually see the biggest give away for phone footage is the shutter/frame rate (which I suppose can be fixed with some ND). Biggest iPhone tell is still the flares from the lens when there’s a strong light source in shot. Would be happy to use either in a project though great vid.

[@oilyvio]

it's incredible that we got to the point of doubting which camera is which between a smartphone and a fill camera? incredible

[@EvanSchneider]

It’s pretty sick how you can go handheld with the FX30 and the iPhone on top gives you a stabilized vertical version. Great test.

[@sloppysteaks]

Yeah it’s pretty great!

[@nerminhodzic8541]

But, like the idea that we have come to the moment where we compare two cameras, one is a phone and the second is really good one, it's just mindblowing!

[@MrBokkyboy]

The only thing that told me what was the iPhone was the stability in the shots. We came a long way and it’s insane what is possible with a iPhone

[@Jhoofnail]

I could definitely tell due to the lower dynamic range and the depth of field not being quite as natural when you directly compare it like this. If I didn't know you were shooting with the two cameras and saw sequence cut with footage from both cameras however, I would have no idea you used more than one camrea. Honestly really incredible that iphone footage looks so good.

[@sloppysteaks]

DR is better on the iPhone if you look at scopes.

[@Jhoofnail]

@@sloppysteaks That's interesting. There's something in the lack or flatening of the details in the shadows of the iphone footage that is a big giveaway

[@hotrockbabes3850]

You can tell the depth of field of the FX30 straight away and the stabilization on the iPhone is way better. Both are good

[@t3dotgg]

The lack of good OIS on the Sony gave it away for me 😅

[@RyanZulqudsie]

Dude, I came from your M3 Max MBP video. What a wonderful time to be alive right now, that no constraint of friction for us creators to make great content!

[@Sweetnuglyproductions]

What gave it away for me is the camera movement

[@LoveTech]

Wow. That’s close!! 😮

[@Hamzawwyy]

These kind of videos that need to be rewatched over and over again Great Job 👏

[@MarkusAT]

Camera shake tells me instantly that the B should be iPhone, but it's just an educated guess having watched the first few shots. NAILED IT!

[@sloppysteaks]

We’re supposed to just be looking at color. Nothing else is relevant.

[@robert_may]

The functioning image stabilisation on the iPhone kinda gives it away a bit, but otherwise a good comparison 😆 Awesome to have LOG support in the iPhone now.

[@sloppysteaks]

In a good way because it shows just how terrible Sony IBIS is.

[@robert_may]

@@sloppysteaks Haha yeah it's really shockingly bad now. It almost feels like it somehow gets worse with each camera release too. They'll have to do something about it one of these days...right? 🙈

[@sloppysteaks]

@@robert_may i usually turn it off and just add a bit of weight to the camera, i find that it's quite good when you have an OIS lens though, we also shoot all of Gerald Undone's studio tours with the 10-20mm handheld and its really smooth.

[@rec-trick]

wich better blackmagic 4k or iphone 15 pro for virtual productions with green screen ?

[@baskarafahlevy8980]

The depth of field really gave it away for me, like i knew which is which

[@rodprod8522]

I thought to myself if the Iphone aint B, I should give up! - sharpening plus slightly more contrast was the giveaway - colours matched REALLY well which arguable is just a tweak - well done to get them this close!

[@reemalhadrami5274]

yes beside the flare and the highlight roll off which was pretty obvious give away for me it was the separation no matter how good a phone sensor becomes they're still far from the real thing the APCS/FF stuff gives but not bad at all for a phone footage or even impressive if we dare say

[@Okiyah]

LOG really does it! I've mixed iPhone 14 ProRes with my FX3 and it was a little more work. I find that putting a gaussian blur of 1, 1.5 (FCP) on the phone footage even brings them closer.

[@sloppysteaks]

ProRes Log is already much softer now. They did a good job.

[@londonztoa6359]

I’ve been looking out for this test. Excellent, thank you. And yes, damn close..

[@MacXpert74]

The quality has gotten amazing good for a smartphone camera. Obviously the bigger sensor on the Sony allows for a more shallow depth of field and better low-light performance. But I can definitely see how the iPhone could be used for b-roll footage in professional productions.

[@djc24]

Love love love your perspective and insight in this video. For all practical purposes the iPhone looked equally as good with respect to color and exposure. The background boka was still much better on the Sony FX video (which was how I could tell the difference in the pic comparisons)

[@Lowridersdoggs]

The easy give away on the iPhone was the lens flair, and over sharpened look.

[@Lexyboogie]

At this moment, I really think that the equipment you use doesn’t matter as much anymore and the differences in quality are more down to your talent and skill as a videographer. That’s unless you are filming anything in low light conditions, which is a HUGE caveat.

[@VictorLaforteza]

That's suuuuper close! love it.

[@carljuztine3328]

undisputedly the best beginner camera

[@RALFOREIGN]

That 16 gone be crazy ❤

[@PaperWolfe]

Damn that’s some pretty impressive results

[@DarknessAlchemist00]

The main thing that gave the 15 Pro away was the DoF. The FX-30 had a stronger DoF compared to the 15 Pro. Both look really good though.

[@BryceDriesenga]

Yep, bigger sensor = increased depth of field. Could maybe adjust the FX30 lens/aperture to try to get them to match closer despite the sensor size difference.

[@AdamLMore]

As someone that has stared at way too much camera and phone footage, I could tell the difference. But, I suspect many people would never be able to. The ProRes Log footage does a lot in making the image quality not have that over processed “shot on a phone” look. Great video and great comparison.

[@rafayzafar6500]

Awesome comparison Patrick! As you mentioned really scary how good the iPhone 15 Pro is!

[@HORRORinWV]

The only way I could tell which footage was shot with the iPhone was that the iPhone was mounted on top of the other camera and thus had a slightly different POV. The difference in footage was very slight to me. I don’t believe the viewing audience cares or could tell the difference.

[@ethan_webb]

Honestly could see the difference within the first four seconds of the video. While ProRes LOG helps a lot, there's still way too much digital processing going on for the image to have the natural feel a real camera has. Once the other footage was seen later in the video it was exponentially more obvious because of the depth of field difference between the two. Still, this is definitely a lot more serviceable than phone footage has ever been for certain applications

[@sloppysteaks]

i don't agree but thanks for watching!

[@smartphonefan5226]

That is impressive. The iPhone 15 Pro can be a good companion to a point and shoot camera.

[@MrSamPhoenix]

I couldn’t tell the difference. I’m waiting for someone to make a film with the iPhone 15 Pro. Just to see what it could look like.

[@Mavesound]

For me the iPhone stabilisation makes the footage so much better, it also looks way sharper. iPhone killed it

[@encabronado07]

Does the Pro Res Log feature only come with iPhone 15 Pro and above and not the regular iPhone 15?

[@sloppysteaks]

Correct

[@sixgunguerrilla]

I never get the argument about sharpness when it comes to iPhone. People complain about the sharpness of the image with iPhones and then turn around and look for the sharpest lenses on APS-C/Full Frame they can find. It often sounds like a complaint just for the sake of there being a complaint. For me, iPhone has three obvious disadvantages: The lens flare that is an obvious iPhone indicator, the depth of field, and more difficulties in low light. IMO all three of those can be avoided or minimized by learning better photography/videography and careful editing. Sony APS-C line is a great value right now, but I think for people posting on KZbin/social platforms or maybe even doing small-ish photo book projects, iPhone is a great offer. Besides doing all the other things a phone does, it offers great-to-passable images at a variety of focal lengths, and none of its limitations are deal breakers for most people in most scenarios. Those limitations can also make you better at photography/videography.

[@enfieldrides3857]

Loved the video! 👍🏻

[@AlexRyan_]

Another great video man. Thank you..

[@kallex7741]

Thx for saying what I was thinking in the beginning

[@ColdStream]

Thank you for the video 🎉🎉 brilliant!!

[@papafuz01]

Very enjoyable vid! Thank you for this video! Im looking forward to filming on the 15 Pro soon. 🤟

[@garends225]

I could tell the shallow depth of field difference in the closer focusing shots. But wow, those were super close.

[@robborr5096]

you can add a depth of field lens to iphones now with a DOF lens like with Beast Grip gimbals

[@diptych1]

camera A had a stronger sense of place, but I wonder what LUT was being used?

[@sloppysteaks]

Rec709 conversions for both

[@alexv8203]

Do you prefer the 3x over 5x or did u choose the pro (3x) bc of the form factor?

[@sloppysteaks]

i picked the small one cuz i dont want 5x zoom. terrible focal length for what i do.

[@RealAlexKlett]

What accessory is that for mounting iPhone on to the Fx30. I have both devices too

[@sloppysteaks]

Just use a monitor hot shoe with a tripod phone clamp

[@rewdotkim]

Impressive. Just for clarification: Would the phone be oriented vertical on the proposed setup? If so, then despite having more vertical headroom in the phone shot, wouldn't the clips still fall victim to needing to be framed for both horizontal and vertical, resulting in a slightly compromised *framing* for both orientations (again, acknowledging that the vertically shot clips would be better than cropping a 16:9)?

[@sloppysteaks]

no you can see the example i showed, i framed for the wide, and the phone is grabbing the 9:16, you don't even have to think about the phone shot with that setup. Make you 16:9 look good.

[@leosgf]

How much Did you adjusted the exposure on the iPhone during this recording?

[@sloppysteaks]

i didn't i left it all auto

[@keeps4970]

oh man! this phone is totally insane!😅🔥 the best and the most powerful phone this year

[@Moreaustin]

My concern with the fx30 is the not as effective stabilization as iPhone. iPhone, though not having the features of a full frame sensor, has done a great job making shots seem gimbalized. Fx30 still seems shaky with stabilization on compared to iPhone. Do you also feel this way?

[@sloppysteaks]

no camera except for maybe a Lumix now can keep up with iPhone stabilization.

[@Moreaustin]

@@sloppysteaks yup. I feel that. I love your work btw. I’m inspired by all your videos. Continue.

[@13MAM13]

Is it some pre requisite to shoot vertically when using a phone?

[@sloppysteaks]

i don't understand your question

[@seancloutier2577]

I would agree...since like 2018 most cameras produce an excellent image. It is less now which is best but a matter of taste. I have seen some Fuji guys do stuff that blows what the Sony and Blackmagic guys are going out of the water... if you have a camera with a 10 bit image and can grade to taste ...that is pretty much all that matters.

[@JELLESLT]

Any change you are selling the luts to go from apple log to rec709?

[@ParlamiDiTe]

i was searching for a valid usbc splitte for iPhone 15 Pro (ssd and micropbone). Do u have any suggestion? Thabks for your great videos!

[@sloppysteaks]

don't think it exists

[@mejlgaardbliddal]

I could see the difference before you graded the footage but do not think I would be able to if you had only shown the graded footage

[@DRMadeIt]

Stabilization told me which was which. Sony IBIS is good but iPhone is better. Awesome video

[@ka.4084]

what else cameras for the price of an iPhone? you have good recommendations there

[@sloppysteaks]

Fx30, canon eos r, GH5, s5ii

[@Kiari33]

it's quite obvious that the sony's footage have quite more shallow depth of field... but apart from tha i couldn't really find that much of a different between those two when they are graded the same way as each other... so i say the iphone 15 is very promising... in terms of future filmaking?

[@kevin-haggerty]

Dude that was a cool test. 100% never going to use a phone for horizontal/client work(I get it though). I see what you’re saying talking with clients and tell them vertical=iphone. Especially since they are posting it on platforms that reduced it to less than ideal. Great job dude!

[@brechtxt8096]

In daytime shooting, the only dead giveaway is the lack of DOF.

[@murph6547]

can we record slow motion 1080p 120fps in ProgRess Log

[@sloppysteaks]

no

[@jordanonuoha5239]

I couldn't agree more about the people who sit around comparing footage when the amount of factors that go into creating a look make it impossible to identify sensor size, brand etc. Mirrorless is mirrorless is mirrorless... Nonetheless great video bro!

[@LaZYYYYY]

we luv ur rants

[@ShotByCurt]

That shit actually does look pretty damn good! The highlight roll off was the give away for me but I’ll definitely be using it for most vertical stuff. Thanks 🤙🏾

[@riversheppherd121]

I need an iphone vs the komodo video with kofi yeboah in it for the LOLZ

[@jdsmedia]

Man at this point if i had to answer right to save my life id probably die. Other than the depth of field, i would've never guessed...

[@SonChae21]

Could not really tell the difference till the lens flare came

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

Never for pro (paid) work -I have the FX30 and good lenses. I might get the iphone 15PM and even get some shots for B-roll but nope...not for paid gigs. But I will keep it with me always!

[@sloppysteaks]

Why not for paid gigs?

[@TheAlleycatboy]

please tell us how do you grade it?) colours look so cinematic

[@blunterwun]

lol it's like, LET'S COMPARE CAMERAS!!!-shoots a car. lmao

[@sloppysteaks]

You’re pretty wrecked in the head eh

[@cementinquentin]

The only reason I knew Camera B was the iPhone because you showed us the rig and the iPhone was sitting/shooting at a slightly higher angle than the FX30. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to tell.

[@MaikKleinert]

Totally agree with you camera is always better it special in lowlight but iPhone is better when it comes to compact or creating unique perspectives. I finally can combine my Sony A1 footage with the IPhone 15 pro max and grade it very identical. Mind blowing. Thanks also for the underexposing tip in another video. Keep rocking bro 😎

[@alexreyes3438]

Luv my fx30, the best Sony for video I've owned so far. Pat the dead giveaway for me was how much tighter the fx30 is to the wider phone lens.

[@floydb9100]

bro I thought cam b was a highly expensive legit cinema camera haha opps

[@Digitalfiendscom]

Colours and sharpness are pretty damn close. Where you see a real difference, as you pointed out, is the depth of field and nicer bokeh from the bigger lens. A phone just can’t compete with that; the close up shots of the car gave it away immediately as the backgrounds look more blurred on the FX30 (obviously). It’s great to be able to use an iPhone as a B cam … great for people just starting out who can’t afford two cameras and lenses. Plus you can get some really creative shots with the phone that’d be hard to replicate with a mirrorless.

[@SergioCuen]

Finally we can shoot vertical and horizontal content at the same time 🙌🏼

[@BryceDriesenga]

I want a square sensor camera for this!

[@BubbleVolcano]

Good! 4:57 where your the locked of white balance is? on the hight light of car light or on the background?

[@sloppysteaks]

I left both cameras AWB to make it fair

[@PatrickWithCamera]

Indeed, the quality is good, as long as we stay at the equivalent of 24mm and 24 frames per second, anything beyond that and the problems begin.

[@sloppysteaks]

what problems?

[@PatrickWithCamera]

@@sloppysteaks Video with 13mm and 77mm looks much worse than from main 24mm lens because of smaller sensors, and 24 fps just to keep ISO as low as possible, at such small sensor high ISO can kill quality really fast, in most cases 24 fps looks much cleaner/detailed than 60 fps

[@sloppysteaks]

@@PatrickWithCamera haven't experienced that. i use all 3 all the time, in fact when we did a full scientific DR test on gerald undone's channel we found that the best dynamic range signal to noise ratio is around 1250 ISO.

[@MarcinPalka]

You can immediately recognize the iPhone whey you see flares while shooting against the sun or any other light sources :) Besides that the quality of both is superb.

[@sloppysteaks]

Yeah and nobody will care about that. Just filmmaking nerds and never make content for them!

[@jessecumberledge4530]

Totally agree with you about having to shoot wide for vertical. Makes them both look like DOG CRAP. I did for a while and won't ever do it again. I do agree that no one could tell the difference between the 2, and with the ability to use ssd external the workflow problem is nearly fixed. But like you said I don't know why as a professional you would get a phone OVER a camera. Phone should be b cam or "social media" cam.

[@kylemckenna]

Great video, per usual! Looking forward to your iPhone grading video. Also, that fx30 handle - what's that??

[@sloppysteaks]

Ulanzi makes it. Just a side grip, probably won’t be doing any grading videos. I’m just winging it haha

[@akshat1232]

I really think with the new iPhone 15 Pro apple is finally entering the semi-professional camera genre like for those who want their cameras beginner-friendly but still don't wanna learn every setting!!! I think this could be a great EDC for many casual content creators or for professionals for certain special shots maybe!!! I would buy this as my first “pro” content creation camera I think 😂😂 instead of sony a6700 💀

[@yamato160]

FX３０と全然変わらないですね。参考になりました。ありがとうございます。

[@researchchemicals2u]

Appreciate the content need more cinematography tip on iPhone

[@SkyUnderscore]

Not looking for which was which I actually preferred B

[@JeffBourke]

All GH users can already record nice open gate options already.

[@sloppysteaks]

so what? I have s5ii and s5ii X. doesn’t come close to this.

[@Shotbymoranos]

Wow nice footage! The only thing i saw wich one was the iPhone was by the lens flares. The iPhone has strange flares. But its getting very close now we have the ability to shoot log on the iPhone.

[@RyanDeLaTorre]

Vertical video ruins everything, lol, but yeah, this is awesome to see. Like sure, if you’re looking for it, you can tell which one is the iPhone in every shot, but the log looks surprisingly great (especially for viewing on phone screens in 1080p). Thanks for showing this off!

[@mex5341]

Wow, almost no difference. Selling my fx30 for new Iphone. Whole process to create videos will be faster and client can’t see the difference

[@Lancelotxxx]

now we need prime lens bokeh and sharpness and we will be there

[@sergsergesrgergseg]

i use it for travel and the difference is i can fit the camera in my pocket

[@jjeremycai]

What are you using to rig the iPhone to your fx30? Great comparison

[@sloppysteaks]

Just a tripod clamp mount from Amazon. Any will do!

[@nol_jeon_gyoung_moo]

hi i love your video. btw can i know what is your phone clamp?