"I WANT TO GO CLUBBING WITH MY CHILDREN" loose vs strict parenting | Jubilee

[@322edith]

My son broke his arm last summer. That required 7 appointments/ follow up back and forth. time away from work and a $12,000 bill. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@AbaNPreach]

My kid wants to climb a tree? What could wrong?

[@byebyedislikecount939]

Wooow. That's really bad. These privileged people act like assholes honestly.

[@Cee-G]

I hope you son, is doing better now.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@Noemieorokia]

What ???

[@FleshWolf]

@@Cee-G hope his/her pockets are doing better now 🙏

[@frozensoulgem1545]

I hate that having any basic rules makes you a "strict parent." As a parent, I'm hoping to be somewhere in between. Kids need freedom, but not riding the subway alone at 9 years old kind of freedom.

[@coolchristiangirl190]

I agree, could the nine year old catch the subway home, yes. But the rules is not there to hinder them, it’s there to protect them from the world because if someone tries to kidnap them, they are not able to defend themselves.

[@Adwoa2337]

Teens need freedom, kids need to be protected. Imo, children are less responsible and more vulnerable to certain things

[@classickalmusick431]

There are parents who don't want to discipline their children in fear of being "mean." They want to be the "cool" parent but it always ends up backfiring when their children grow up to be entitled, reckless or spoiled. Kids need to be given reasonable rules to follow, not too much or not too little.

[@EmmaxoOCE]

i agree. these days in everything you have to pick a side. and each side thinks they’re the best. you do you, as long as it works for your kids that’s what matters

[@EmmaxoOCE]

@@classickalmusick431 you’re right. most kids i know who are distasteful at school have shitty parents.

[@brotherq3632]

As soon as they asked if a kid should have privacy, I immediately thought about this one line in Fairly Odd Parents: "I'm respecting your privacy by knocking but im asserting my authority by coming in anyway".

[@Michael-H23]

Facts you have a 2 sec gap before I am walking in hahaha

[@johndavis9321]

Most kids know about this lol it b like that some times

[@uncleelroy6353]

My father always told me if you want privacy get your own spot

[@agathachris9722]

Lol

[@khumomatlakane2009]

Holy shit I haven't watched that shit in years 😂😂😂

[@nolaninger3942]

As a 24 year old in the current state of the United States I can say for sure that I have needed my parents a tremendous amount even after turning 18.

[@addybishop308]

There was a recent story in Texas where a woman was arrested for letting her son walk home. But there’s some twists. The son has anger issues and walks home to cool off. The day of the incident he was physically fighting with his brothers and she pulled the car over and he agreed to walk half a mile home. The police picked the boy up on the same block as his house. When the officer went in to talk to her, she explained the situation. The officer told her that there had been instances of trafficking in their city and she said she would CONTINUE to let the boy walk home. She got arrested for felony endangerment. She ended up losing her job and her house. You can look up articles. The boy was 8 and it happened in waco tx.

[@grampagohan3385]

Its crazy cause now that childs life is gonna be worse than its ever been

[@infj4w511]

We may not agree with the parenting, but those consequences were insane

[@andysaldivar9703]

Well known Mexican saying: "si en la casa no te educan, en la calle te desnucan" loosely translates to "If your home doesn't educate you, the streets will hang you" (it rhymes in Spanish lol)

[@ayyylmao101]

And it's TRUE

[@nadirimyers6643]

Yep. My grandma always says “learning begins at home”

[@raemin-laanmcneil8449]

Facts!!!! Believe me, I know.

[@jd7338]

Facts

[@peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube]

Everything sounds horrible when translated to english lol

[@ennoidyam]

JEN "I don't like the word 'train' - my children aren't dogs" ALSO JEN: Calls her kids "free range children"... *Like organic farmers call their chickens* .

[@dammygold4138]

So glad you caught that

[@xsteveconwayx]

I’m not training for the Olympics. I’m being guided for the Olympics. I’m not training to be a Jedi. I’m being guided to be a Jedi.

[@bironjames9948]

Like ??? Lol

[@Oh_geezzz]

That’s what I thought of as soon they called it that lol

[@Quickdrawingartist]

My grandparents have free range cattle, and that was the very first thing that came to mind.

[@AaronS3244]

Here's what having strict parents taught me: -How to lie on the spot -How to recognize footsteps and walking patterns -How to appear like I'm actually doing something productive I could be a sleeper agent🤔🤔

[@ashirahh]

I totally feel the same way but I’m a horrible liar. I laugh at myself at the thought of lying. But this did help me figure out my ex was living a double life. So, I credit my childhood that molded me into a secret service agent lol. At the same time, I don’t monitor my kid’s (teenagers) online use but I, very often, give them advice and encourage them to give themselves boundaries.

[@grampagohan3385]

I bet you know how to feign respect in public though

[@angelkrystal1495]

Children thrive with rules and boundaries. Free range “parents” should really consider taking a course on child development. Maybe they’ll realize how much damage they are causing their children and impeding their development

[@kerbertwinslo]

those parents aren’t strict they are balanced. a strict parent is way more extreme than this like not alllowing their kid to speak unless spoken to and shit

[@XxWillyRocksxX]

Exactly!!!!

[@mikek9297]

That's not strict, that's abusive - parents like that are raising maniacs. A strict parent is a parent that enforces the rules, that's it. A balanced parent is a mix of strict and lenient - enforces some rules, but gives a kid some freedom to make mistakes. It's a privilege of people who don't have to worry about their kids healthcare cost or them getting shot as soon as they look out the window.

[@pwners4u]

@@mikek9297 everyone not in America then

[@rachel-zs2oc]

yeah the real strict parents are the one's on that reality TV show "World's Strictest Parents".

[@jessicajones2414]

Shocks me that these are the parents they chose as “strict”. Says a lot.

[@cynthiaromero4312]

Letting a nine year old ride the subway alone is psychotic trusting your child is one thing but trusting complete strangers is just unsafe. Children need protection smh

[@Nicholaspimpinsohard]

There are so many rapist and pedophiles in this world, and some of them are even on the subways. Some children between the ages of 5 to 10 can't take care of themselves.

[@conradkorbol]

Factually this just isn’t true. Most pedophiles know the kids. Why? It’s safer. They can make real threats. Most people trust teens, but teens get kidnapped more frequently. They also get kidnapped walking home from school. Something most parents do. So I am not sure that letting a kid ride a subway is actually that much riskier? Also kids used to do this shit, look at how kids are raised in third world countries, or like people from the 60s. These kids were able to do lots of these. So I think the issue is fairly complex. Especially with phones. You can actually track your kids every location.

[@MissKK660]

Shes lucky AF he wasn't molested and murdered.

[@michellerichardson3090]

Im 33 and I dont even want to ride the train alone

[@whosaidthat9265]

Damn...guess my mom was psychotic as well as all of my friends moms. We were 9 & 10 taking the train because we had to in order to get to school. Our parents had no cars, worked hard and sent us to private school so no school bus like public schools. We all are alive, well and thriving in life. Ideal situation? No. But some people have to do what they have to do.

[@sashasguitarcovers5921]

My parents were always strict with me when I was younger, but they became more lenient as I got older (starting around 14). Now I’m 19, and while I’m more “friends” with my parents, they still treat me like their son and vice versa. If they treated me completely as a friend, I would still be lost. Kids (even ones over 18) still need guidance, they just need it to feel like they’re giving input and not just being told what to do.

[@soph.b6054]

As a fellow 19 year old, I completely agree. I don't understand why some people seem to think that the day you hit 18 you suddenly get a mature awakening because that's ridiculous. Your mindset is unchanged from the day before when you were 17. If anything I appreciate my parents input and advice more than ever since I'm entering into adulthood.

[@bomaniweatherbee-kelley5005]

On the topic of ass whippings, that punishment was so much more effective for me because words didn't get to me. I was the type of child that would do what they wanted to do, despite the very clear difficulties I was causing for myself and my parents. Over time though, it taught me that your actions have consequences. Sure you could tell someone that, but an intangible incentive to just "do good or else" doesn't work for everyone. At the age of 23, I see the belt as a symbol of bad consequences in the least severe way. As you get older, the belt may become eviction. Jail. Death. Things far worse than the physical pain of the belt. I see it as a form of discipline that can teach common sense. Don't do this, this won't happen to you. Having said all this, this form of discipline should never be used in excess. Know when to sit down and talk, and know when you've talked enough. Study how quickly your child picks up on things in order to determine how often you should have to talk to them about the same topic. That's all. I'm out.

[@sir_will_iam]

It's either you teach your kids or the world does. Spoilers: when the world does it, 9/10 it doesn't come from a place of love.

[@iamgolden911]

💯that’s a great way to put it!

[@likethecolorgreen]

Teach them our the tv well.

[@likethecolorgreen]

Great comment. It’s the parents job to set the child up for success

[@AZIONG651]

Great way to put it. The worlds lessons are harsh most of the time, they're usually learnt the hard way. And while sometimes you're going to learn something the hard way, I don't want my children to learn all their lessons that way.

[@Dvrkwulf]

I wish I could heavy retweet this

[@Khrysos]

people act like parenting has gotten more strict because people wont let their kids run around ourside unsupervised, yet they let their kids run around unsupervised on the internet which is honestly worse.

[@atropabelladonna3120]

Hallelujaaah! 🙏 Fcking finally someone said it. And oh boi I know parents like that...they relatives too...

[@imansniece8323]

did you just speak facts? my whole being says yes!

[@abcdefghijklmnop7179]

As a kid I agree

[@johndavis9321]

Big fuckin facts

[@user-vv5ju3fj1p]

100%

[@nicknasser713]

I was spanked as a kid. Early as a child it taught me there were consequences to my actions. But as I grew the explanation no longer came with the spanking. The parenting part of explaining this is what you did and why had gone away and it was just a physical response to their frustration. Then the inconsistencies started and I was spanked without knowing what I even did wrong, along with inconsistent reactions to the same behaviors that I would do. That created paranoia because I no longer understood if what I was doing was wrong or not, or if maybe just today it's not ok. To be clear this was on the part of my mother and my dad was more or less at the mercy of my narcissistic mother. I've been beaten for cooking noodles the "wrong" way. By the time I was an adult I had no respect for my parents because of their inability to be a parent. I never said spanking was out of the question but as my child has grown I have found far more success by taking the time to explain the cause and effect of her actions and by being consistent. Even when she is misbehaving it doesn't take much more than sitting her down and having a rational conversation with her about it.

[@e_i_e_i_bro]

It's lazy Neanderthal parenting. Civilized humanity is based on communication. Never have laid a hand on my son. Rarely have ever had to explain right from wrong more than once even in the toddler years.

[@Isaac265]

@@e_i_e_i_bro That's just a pretty wrong comment. If you read the comment you'll notice it only become bad when it came without any reason or any form of explanation of wrong doing after. Like everything else, if you wanna train your kids like that, it has limits and conditions to fulfil

[@e_i_e_i_bro]

@@Isaac265 teaching right from wrong is achievable without the parents modelling aggression and teaching the child the lesson that hitting solves problems (it doesn't and obviously doesn't work in the real world). It's lazy and provides zero value to any child. That's the point you miss.

[@Isaac265]

@@e_i_e_i_bro you're just plain wrong. It works depending on the child. It's your job as a parent to choose when and when not to do it depending on how you observe your child reacts to it. Teaching your child to have pride in themselves can also lead them to become overly prideful, it's the same concept here, you teach them when and where and to what degree this is applicable. I don't particularly care if you don't want to spank your child, it isn't my choice. You can't just ignore and refute the positive aspects it brings and just write off anyone's experience of being spanked as them being abused or nonsense.

[@Isaac265]

@@e_i_e_i_bro I'm not missing anything. You just refuse to understand a view that differs from your own. All you keep referring to are the worst possible variations of spanking your kid and you're trying to apply that across the board. It's disingenuous. It's the same as saying don't give to the poor cause some might just be tricking you, or don't be religious since some religious people are batshit insane. You can't just constantly paint things as black or white. Eitherway that's all I have to say to you. Have a nice life

[@ABC3-2]

I loved skateboarding when I was 12/13. Then I fell and messed up my knee badly. My mom didn't explicitly say it as to probably not make me feel extra guilty. But that impacted our ability to buy food for months. I never got back on the board and was always super careful. Now as an adult and everyone in my family having clawed their way into the middle class. I will start skateboarding again. Taught me how much my actions can impact everyone

[@Ntjitube]

I agree , parenting is not black and white. Certain things I’d be strict about , certain things I’d be “free range” about.

[@ris7ahs907]

exactly

[@thelastdarknova]

100% and those things change as the kids get older. There is a lot of nuanince to the rules you put in place, involved with each and every kid, because each kid will be a little different so you might have to adjust certain rules based on personality, hobbies, and environmental changes (like if u move or something).

[@doesitmatter94]

Ya, exactly. And it varies a lot depending on where you live and your socio-economic background. I’m not going to judge anyone for parenting (that isn’t abusive) the way they feel is best for their circumstances.

[@AZIONG651]

As it should be. On some things, hell yeah free as a bird. On other things, the foot comes down and stays down.

[@helpinghearts1848]

I mean I'm white and black parents actually discipline their kids white parents just give kids phones and let em do what they want not saying parenting is black or white but black parents parent more

[@welikelethabo]

“Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child.” - my sister

[@pirate6616]

correction: some rando on the internet*

[@welikelethabo]

@@pirate6616 Omw😭😂lol. I like your username btw.

[@omariohenry2365]

My mom said the same thing. The words of wise black women

[@pirate6616]

@@welikelethabo thanks, it is exactly 50 characters long

[@HydraxSly202]

Yes. This. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@somadilaagulanna6349]

As a Nigerian I find this interesting 😂😂😂 cause generally our parents are free range in the sense of letting you enter the bus on your own, walking back from school alone but strict in every other thing 💀😂

[@zippy3253]

As innn lol

[@bradmichaels4302]

Bro faxxxxx😂

[@joyslair8614]

omooooo you gerrit like it's so funny because it's now like our parents are both strict and free range when all our liveswe've been viewing them as just strict

[@traceatroj240]

I think most Africans are like that..... 😂

[@BashFPS]

Kids are literal untrained animals, if anyone needs training, it's the damn kids lol

[@getyassified6390]

Omg, please don't become a parent. Jesus Christ...

[@BashFPS]

@@getyassified6390 I will become a parent and I'll be a damn good one. No need to be concerned with me, look after yourself.

[@getyassified6390]

@@BashFPS You'd be a 'damn good parent' while thinking the PEOPLE you gave birth to are "untrained animals"? Tie your tubes.

[@RheemQ]

@@BashFPS I really doubt that. With your ego you probably won't even think what's best for the kid and only your interest.

[@anonymousbo0318]

@@getyassified6390 Get a clue goof.

[@kiy8528]

I grew up as a "free range" kid. I used go the elementary school, my friends house etc by myself. People say I got amazing problem solving skills. But also I got sexually molested 2 times from randoms in the street during my childhood. I never told anybody because I always felt like everything that happens to me is my responsibility.

[@TheAwe50me]

I'm sorry to hear that stay strong don't let the world snuff out your light

[@kiy8528]

@@TheAwe50me Thank you, just reading the word sorry in your comment, made me cry. When I was a little girl I thought it was my fault because it happened twice. Never thought anybody would be sorry if I said it out loud. But don't worry I'm actually doing great in life now :)

[@morgie4378]

So so very sorry that you experienced that! Definitely was the responsibility of the adults around you.

[@-taemiso-292]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that ❤

[@naomi9449]

Mercy I am so sorry❤️

[@its__destiny]

Some parents are naive to the reality of CHILD TRAFFICKING.

[@strife9592]

exactly. Like, you can't let a 7 yr old walk home by themselves because of how vulnerable they are.

[@strife9592]

@Amanda ik right

[@dianeghazaryan4773]

@Amanda your fault for having raised weak dim witted kids. imma raise boys who'll crack the jaw of anyone who tries to hurt them:)

[@desgraca169]

@@dianeghazaryan4773 u must be 8

[@shemwell4782]

@@dianeghazaryan4773 '-' wat the fuck a child gonna do to a full grown adult with a weapon and manipulation

[@hannahbradley2769]

"live you life in such a way that if everyone can see what your doing in private you won't be ashamed" sounds like she's trying to raise a perfectionist who can't even be wrong in private

[@thatcher.o4436]

I was raised by a strict parent (Dad was strict, mom wasn’t ). Hated it when I was a child, now I’m 23 and I’m grateful that he was.

[@karolinammm5809]

My friend fell from a tree and broke his spine, he will never walk again. When this woman said, that nothing serious will happen to a child when it falls from a tree... Oh woman... Where is your awareness and responsibility??

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

But that is a freak accident. Usually kids fall from trees and max break an arm. Kids also have serious spinal injuries from horse riding, crossing the road, riding a bike etc. You have to let your child live

[@karolinammm5809]

@@Bringon-dw8dx Sure! I agree that kids should be kids, but this woman in the video asked "what's the worst that can happen", as if she did not realize the risks of such play. I am not saying that children should be forbidden to play, but as a parent you have to be aware of the danger, otherwise how will you protect your child? Let the kids live but observe and be aware.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

@@karolinammm5809 I guess my take is let the kids live, empower them to asses danger (rather then observe). I was allowed out with friends by about 9- but I’d had test runs and it was a very gradual process (outside house -> end of road -> aunts house 3 roads along and so on)

[@declaracionespolemicas]

@@Bringon-dw8dx How do you want them to asses danger if they can't truly understand what the consequences can be? Because no kid who wants to climb a tree is gonna be thinking about what if they fall, what if they break a bone, what if they hit their head, what if they end up paraplejic for life? They don't think about it. A parent's job is to protect their kids from danger, if you let them roam wild without a care in the world they're gonna end up hurt or worse. Not that I think they shouldn't play as normal children, but at the very least you teach them to be careful and aware. I still vividly remember my mom catching me once climbing a tree, telling me I could fall and not be able to walk again. Didn't try again after once I knew what the consequences could be, no amount of fun is worth getting gravely hurt.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

@@declaracionespolemicas I don’t think anyone can ‘truly’ understand a consequence unless they’ve experienced it, and in life that’s obviously not practical because we only have one life. So like anyone (adult or child) you explain the consequences. I knew as a kid if I fell out of a tree I could do serious damage, so I was careful when climbing trees. The same way you are taught how to cross a road. It’s a life skill to be able to risk assess

[@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78]

So “training” is treating your kid like a dog but, “free-range” is treating your kid like a chicken...WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO??? ::ugh::

[@SvensktTroll]

I think it's time to setup a part of the world where we can send all people who believe in any "woke" bs!

[@crossing3790]

You ever stop to think that those 6 were put out there to train us? And for what are we being prepared.

[@iamgolden911]

People protect chickens in coops at night.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

You train employees to do certain tasks

[@adamraz6377]

@@llcdrdndgrbd you train soldiers too. aba said it as an example later on without realizing it applied to this too lol

[@Semoy23]

"Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child". Giving children everything they want, causes the world to have too many adults that feel the world owe them something. They can't take rejection and get easily depressed. Freedom would be given when they're responsible enough. I want my children to feel they can talk to me, but they can have privacy when they're living on their own.

[@bubblyb9935]

There is not one single recipe. Each family has its own dinamic and each child demands specific ways to approach their needs. That's why it's so important to talk to different people with different perspectives and that's how we as parents find space to grow. The only thing I think it's important is to make sure your child knows you love them and that you have consistency within your words and actions towards them.

[@ToLovelyJesus]

I agree with Christian on “not letting kids quit” their activities when they’ve made a commitment. My mom did the same thing with me and I’m grateful for that. My mom would always say, “It’s fine if you don’t want to play (sport/instrument) anymore, but you can’t quit before the end of the season or before the recital.”

[@beatm6948]

Exactly. You shouldn't force them for years, but if they start something, they choose to start something, they see it through.

[@thelifeofzbear204]

See that’s because it ended up being something you wanted to do a lot of children don’t end up wanting to do that you can’t force your children to do something that they don’t want to do you’re allowed not to want to do something anymore because you’re human you don’t wanna do this anymore you don’t have to do what you shouldn’t be forced to do it the only reason we say that you can’t quit because you can’t quit in society that’s because societal why is he has made it hard for people to do that we have to bring children up into a way where they can change that dynamic in society where they can quit that job that they don’t want because one it doesn’t make them happy and it’s not something you wanna do anymore we shouldn’t be like well you can’t do that because you got this this this and this only reason it’s like that because the dynamic that society has placed upon us through older generation we have to change that to our children with the younger generation by showing them look if you don’t wanna do this job you have every right to feel that way the question should be asked to the children why do you no longer wanna do this all why did your feelings change between when you first started doing it and now and then when they give you that reason and you’re just like oh is hard and I don’t like that it’s hard it’s not funny anymore and then you have to go OK well if it wasn’t hard would you still want to do it and if they answer is yes and you go you know what here’s how we make this easy we find a different way for you to still enjoy this thing that has become hard for you let’s make it easy that we can become enjoyable that way you’re not quitting but you’re finding a different outlet to make that task more enjoyable to you

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665]

I disagree with Christian on “not letting kids quit” their activities when they’ve made a commitment. My mom didn’t do the same thing and I’m grateful for that

[@Greyce118]

@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 No one's gonna die because their parents forced them to play piano as a child😂

[@Imblu95]

On my case i had my parents suport me when ever i signed up to something and decided to leave cuss i didnt like it in the end and i was really happy that they let me do it, but now i would have loved to at least finish one activity eaven if it was some kind of sport or learning to play an instrument, bcuss now i dont have time nor the money to invest in does things.

[@kamryn110]

I’m in the middle with this Its a fact that people with too strict or helicopter parents struggle to adjust to life However when my mother would tell me “I’m not your friend” that stayed with me as an adult. It’s not that I wanted to be an equal I just wanted to be able to talk about gossip but I didn’t get that relationship so we ended up being very apart

[@tricialemon]

Lenore is actually pretty chill! Now I wouldn’t let my kid do some of the things she has let hers do, but still I respect her mindset on a lot of things.

[@briankenome]

It's funny how the same woman who says she doesn't like the word "training", accepts the use of the word "free range". Hell, free range reminds me of 🐔 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔.. People just get triggered for absolutely nothing

[@Berto0704]

Haha I was about to say that 😂

[@briankenome]

@Epic Line 😂😂

[@emekauchendu]

Leftists get triggered fast.

[@ajsocool8918]

@@emekauchendu as a leftist, I am tRiggEreD

[@Sol36900]

I wish he had told her that

[@ryurineko]

You all remember that shitty girl who tackled that poor guy in a hotel, then got pulled over for DUI, with her mother...? That was a "free range parent"..

[@silverfischdotnet]

SoHo Karen!

[@amahgio]

Literally, the mother was drunk in the car with her smh.

[@ChimObiajulu]

Yup

[@doms.6701]

I think the shooter of an Oregon college was raised by strict parents. It's almost as though taking an extreme stance on either side can result in shitty humans.

[@Thankgot]

Tiger parenting also caused that gurl to try kill her parents. I personally think everything in moderation. Not too strict not too free range

[@nicolewolfcry7408]

I feel like spanking really depends on 3 factors. 1. The child, 2. The reason, 3. The method. 1. There are some children who need a stern hand, others time out works. 2. Spanking should not be the result of every single mistake or first time mistakes. Time out, grounding are tools in the same tool box the right one has to be pulled for the right job. 3. You can't spank and walk away. You have to explain and 'i said so' isn't an explanation. My family did spank. However I was only spanked 8 times in 17 years. I understood each of those spankings, why I got them and the reason behind them. The thing is it has to be done right, for the right reason, and you have to make sure the child understands why it is severe enough to have that repercussion.

[@MortusSweet]

My mother escaped from my father when I was a baby, who was abusive. She wasnt a mother- she didn’t teach me anything, DIDNT give me rules or boundaries, and didn’t teach me what it was to be a woman. The only time I was talked to was when she yelled at me. I engaged in fatherless behavior. I ended up giving myself no value. So screw parents who don’t take care of their children. IM SUPPOSED TO FEEL SAFE WITH YOU.

[@J3anie]

The "free-range" parent's are well meaning, but critically disillusioned to how much evil is present in the rest of the world. I hope their kids make it.

[@Thebigcoffee]

@@bigfatfish4148 ye

[@mikek9297]

Kinda depends where you live. If I was in some fucked up hell hole where everybody has a gun and a twisted ankle treatment can land me in debt... sorry kid, no free range for you. But luckily I live in the developed world, so I grew up walking to school since I was 9, riding my bike around town, playing ball outside, I even took trips countryside on a bus and a train as an early teenager - that was way before cell phones were a thing. I did get a few spankings, brushed my teeth and had my homework mostly done too, so I can see both sides of this.

[@asddaszxc]

@@bigfatfish4148 you read statistics then applied this to every single situation, chances are not static, it depends on a lot of factors.

[@asddaszxc]

@@bigfatfish4148 while i agree kidnapping by strangers is not common, abduction is not the only possible crime, there's a boatload of different crimes possible. the original post we're commenting on was talking about all possible crimes which are sadly not uncommon.

[@asddaszxc]

@@bigfatfish4148 and generally it is easy for children to hurt themselves while being outside alone, which is what i think parents are mainly worried about.

[@ugladden]

I swear most people have absolutely no business having kids.

[@mjfedup6853]

At all

[@extracheesepl0x]

Amen!!! A lot of Gen Z is the prime example of this statement.

[@Super_Broly]

@@extracheesepl0x a lot of the human race, up until this point, is a prime example of this statement.

[@doms.6701]

Neither person on that stage has any business having kids

[@DY-td3ku]

Sometimes I think you should need a license

[@ITISKONY]

Sometimes, people talk, say things and they actually think they are sounding smart. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Octayvia21]

Parenting doesn't stop at 18...most parents will tell you they get random calls from their kids asking things you'd think they know, but don't. It's a lifelong commitment to mentor this human you created. You just aren't legally responsible for them.

[@Sw4mpF0x]

"What's the worst that could happen? He breaks an arm?" The spinal cord: am I a joke to you?

[@DilettanteThat]

I THOUGHT THAT TOO kjetwhjasf;ods

[@The.Terror.Lab.]

I have an old friend who I used to dance with professionally. He was one of the greatest choreographers I’ve known. One day he was play fighting with some friends and they got a bit rough which resulted in him snapping his neck. He’s now paralyzed from the neck down. It only takes a few seconds for an accident to happen. So no, the spinal cord is not a joke despite what this lady thinks.

[@deziiluv]

Or idk ...NECK?!

[@callherfoofoo]

Working in a Children's ER I promise you ma'am they will take your kids trying that free range mess.

[@jacobsidorin2055]

The child can die from falling out of tree.

[@zd2243]

Granola Jen told the truth: she does not wanna be a parent. Period.

[@coletrautner2192]

Truuu

[@kazoome]

PERIOD!

[@gooniez8490]

She should stay off him then

[@sentinalofyourmom6457]

Frrrr

[@joeldykman7591]

Shes the parent equivalent of the new employee at work that always calls in sick and wonders why they never get any hours

[@timborski1210]

The strict parents are just normal responsible parents..... Jenny seems like the parent who let's them roam around a store and walks by you and asks if you have seen her kids.

[@mdomans]

It's really not about loose vs. strict. It's about sane vs. insane - it really tells me something when a kid asks about having another piece of cake. Because that tells me the parent can be talked into anything, have never laid down the rules regarding happy food and is prone to borderline overreaction since simple questions about cake ends up creating a whole parenting movement.

[@c.chinaski3156]

about the 'falling out a tree, break an arm' comment... my grandfather fell out of a tree as a 5 year old, bumped his head & was deaf from there on out.. had to go to a deaf school, struggled to make social connections, struggled with boredom, loneliness & feeling like ab outsider his whole life. he did have a family because, obviously, i'm here.. but even then, his children grew up, moved out & had families of their own. We all struggled to connect with my Grandparents growing up due to the language barrier & the majority of us grandchildren admittedly being too lazy to learn sign language. at 63 he killed himself, wrote in a note that the loneliness & alienation of life as a deaf person was unbearable & he had flashbacks, remembering being able to hear as a child, knowing all the different & beautiful sounds in the world but not having them anymore. so yeah, "what's the worst that could happen?" alienation from the world, your family, loneliness, longing & death through pure sorrow. fully with preach, NOTHING in life is black & white. banana bread, aye. subway at 9, heeelll no.

[@ashharkausar6921]

That's awful....

[@MarSprite]

Right, well I immediately thought how is that even remotely close to worst case scenario? They could break their neck and live the rest of their life as a paraplegic or die.

[@gokulsiriah7941]

Why did yall remove the pin of shame?? Im missing that comment already

[@The_Jobe]

Im so sorry to hear this. I genuinely felt my stomach sink when I read what your grandfather had wrote and I can only Imagine what you felt and still feel. I wish humans could more easily think of all the possible consequences to our actions to avoid making such ignorant statements. Alas, I fear that the ultra safe, privileged, and sheltered lifestyle that many of us experience in first world countries has caused us to lose this vital aspect of our fight or flight response. I don't know if you believe in the afterlife, but I sincerely hope one day you and your grandfather will finally be able to have the type of connection and interactions you both wished for. Take care brother.

[@williammitchell8247]

It is unfortunate what happened to your grandfather. The chances of that happening are crazy low. The reason I mention that is there are too many cases where people raise their kids with some ridiculous irrational fears that cripple their children. Wanting to protect your children is one thing, but keeping them from being a child is harmful.

[@ChimObiajulu]

Strict parents get to enjoy their grandchildren. Free range parents have to raise their grandchildren.

[@ife3233]

True words

[@jelena-aka-jelzie91]

👏🏼👏🏼

[@elisenefernandes5735]

Very wise words 🤝

[@marlom7882]

True but not if they’re *too* strict. Also free range parents “raise” grandchildren. I personally believe there should be balance like don’t be afraid to spoil your kid (obviously not with everything all the time) but be sure you tell them what’s right and wrong and teach them lessons you know are good ones that they’ll use through their life

[@ChimObiajulu]

@@marlom7882 all things in moderation. Freedom is earned and bought by trust. The children earn more freedom by displaying responsibility and good judgement. But none of this "The children are my friends" bullshit.

[@thestarswillshineagain1824]

I never understood why my mo was so strict when i was a child but im so greatful now because i am able to understand why she was like that. she cared about my health, my safetyt, what i was doing, who i was with, whati wanted to do and be wheni grew up. she supported me and cared for me and ialwaysd felt like if ineeded advise my mom would give me the right advice. kids make stupid decisions, parents train us to be capable and well rounded, intelliogent adults! now i am 25 my mom really is one of my best friends! she has done such a great job, i love her

[@torchjenkins6158]

The problem is, trust is not the issue. The children are just simply physically smaller than someone who potentially could kidnap them. Therefore, I hesitate to let my son walk places by himself.

[@kaymitchell6143]

I was raised by a “strict” parent and I think when people hear rules they think “The child has no freedom,” instead of thinking that the parents are teaching boundaries. Like I have a VERY good understanding of boundaries because I grew up knowing if I followed my mom’s rules we would have fun and life would be easy. Respecting her boundaries allowed me to stay out late as I got older. It made her trust me to the point where in high school she never checked my grades or even filled out paperwork. She felt she had trained me to be both responsible and to make smart decisions about my life. Her rules were the boundaries she made for us to exist in the same space and maintain peace while also preparing me for the world. Her sternness is non existent now that I’m an adult and I don’t feel beholden or any less “free” because I grew up with rules. If anything it was one of the reasons I’ve navigated adult life so well. I call her all the time to thank her for helping me have a realistic view of the world.

[@jamasian]

Exactly. I had a bedtime in high school but I had total freedom on weekends and holidays. Literally could come home at 2/3am and my parents would only ask If I had a good time.

[@valerietheawkwardartist]

I am glad to hear this. My mom was a "relaxed parent". I always said I would be like your parents. I believe that I have found the balance with my kids. Sometimes I am not sure if I should be a little more strict or less.

[@pauleyboy6448]

Same here

[@Ill.righteous31]

Growing up in an African family definitely the parents are strict and very disciplinary😂hated it when I was young but totally understand now and appreciate it alot

[@cameronscott4440]

I had a strict mother and it backfired. I wasn't allowed to learn from my mistakes and as a result I made them later in life. Kids earn my experiencing not telling you no and yes.

[@nolongerinuse488]

“I don’t want to parent after 18”. Girl, just say you don’t want kids, and go.

[@nolongerinuse488]

@Kevante I understand that but there’s no correlation here. One has nothing to do with the other. The fact remains that at 11:59PM you are not an adult, then at 12:00AM you are. Scientifically, you are not mentally mature enough to be an adult. And the people that kick their kids out at 18,..I got news for you: they don’t want to be parents lmfao so that brings us full circle - just say you don’t want kids, and go.

[@Nick-rf2dm]

@Kevante if you have kids then you should always be their parents no matter their age. Sure you dont have to look after them every step of the way after they're capable enough of making their own decisions but that doesn't mean that you act like you dont have kids at all.

[@nolongerinuse488]

@Kevante I think the parents that do that, resent their kids, and that possibly plays a major part into why they do it. Have you ever seen the video of the kid that got kicked out on his 18th birthday and he’s homeless? Maybe even a form of a sociopath to just drop your kids on some exile shit and act like they don’t exist.

[@Beeryy93]

I don’t wanna parent after 18 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’ve been independent since I was 17 years old as I had no choice but it did me good and I’d like to think by 18 my daughter is mature and intelligent enough to look after herself. That doesn’t mean I’ll kick her out or never help her but she’d be an adult by that point she shouldn’t be relying on me anymore. Nothing worse than grown ass adults still counting on their mummy to look after them.

[@christina4012]

@@Beeryy93 you should still be a parent and be parenting. It doesn't matter if they're in the house or not. Cause at the end of the day, you should have their back as they take those first steps into adulthood.

[@YoAlby]

I love what y’all said about spanking and how it begets violent behavior. I really don’t get how people don’t understand this. So many parents think just smacking a kid is disciplining them- it’s not. The only thing they’re learning is to fear you and continue being a brat when you’re not around.

[@anonymousbo0318]

Your one of those goofs who's child is a brat and grows up to be a menace to society. Yet blames everyone else besides yourself and your little spawn aren't you?

[@bbbbbbb51]

Spanking ≠ abuse. They are entirely different things.

[@happydapper8395]

@@bbbbbbb51 did u not see where they said studies show that spanking has increases chances of violent behavior? and ofc it would instead of explaining something and respecting the child you solve the problem with violence and physical action, youve essentially told your child indirectly "Violence solves bad things!"

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Strict parenting means they cannot learn from experience, cannot explore, and cannot think outside the box. Loose parenting means lack of accountability, responsibility, and greater consequence from others.

[@sbm.4]

“I don’t wanna be a parent after they turn 18” You should’ve probably never been a parent in the first place lol

[@nicolewolfcry7408]

Yea.... I still go to my Great Grand Parents (my mom was raised 'free range' before that term was a thing and couldn't handle the baby she had at 17) for advice and 'parent' tips just as I did when they raised me. I wouldn't go to a friend for this type of advice. Sorry but, we aren't birds. We don't' kick kids from the nest as soon as they got wings.

[@valerietheawkwardartist]

This is my mom, she called it relaxed parenting. Bad things happened because she was reckless. She told me she was glad for the experience but is happy it's over now. She likes to be alone. Needless to say we're not close.

[@brittanyhernandez4778]

Everybody knows that 18 year olds may legally be adults but they don't know nothing about life. 18 year olds still definitely need parenting. There are exceptions of course.

[@kristiejones2054]

Once they turn 18 and they are out of your home they are going to do whatever they feel they want to do. Coming to you for advice is one thing. Maybe having to move back home if they happen to hit a rough spot...BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY HOUSE RULES AND HELP PAY BILLS. Having you bail them out of jail? pay all their bills and your own? Having people come in and out of the house, engaging in and or coming home drunk, high or bringing people into the home for sex, parties, etc...anything that is NOT KOSHER? NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO! All of those listed above are NOT ACCEPTABLE. Also, fear goes hand in hand with respect, responsibility, accountability, honesty, etc...how? Fear of consequences, fear of disappointing parents and themselves, fear of being caught in lies and in the act of harming selves or others.. fear is healthy...period the end. It is a part of the normal natural human psyche

[@somadilaagulanna6349]

Honestly it's from 18 that real parenting starts 😂

[@jasperdaghost5246]

The black woman look like if u ask her for McDonald’s she’d say “do u got McDonald’s money”

[@aaronsbestlife]

YES SIR!! 😂😂😂😂

[@TinyMighty10]

My mom would say that too! Hahahahaha...until I got a job and said yes. 😏

[@IAmJoedub]

We got food at home

[@ericsmith5826]

"I can make that kind of burger"

[@TinyMighty10]

"you got McDonald's gas money?"

[@bbbbbbb51]

I'm so glad my parents saved every penny they had to buy some land out in the middle of nowhere when i was a kid. Being able to grow up & bike to a friend's house 3 miles away on a highway was so much more freeing than them fearfully telling me to only ride around the block. Did so incredibly much for me growing up.

[@BeastMode40-]

My parents spanked me, but I was a very aware kid. After spankings I stopped lying until high school and basically acting like a fool. My high school years were a great time for me, I got way more responsibility, a car, and all that. Honestly, it depends on the balance and all that. When I was bad, I got grounded and/or spanked. When I was good, had good grades, or any other positive things, I got reward, whether it had been money, new games and games systems, a phone, or whatever. It thought me what is right and what is wrong quickly. I also absolutely hated baseball, but my last year is when that hatred, and a bit of fear of getting my neck taken out after a baseball flew towards it, won out. I was 11, told my mom i'm done, and focused on the sport I enjoyed football. I kinda wished my mom stopped me, I would have gotten to play some more with friends and my nephews, one was a month older than me and the other 2 years younger than me. I believe it should be a hard balance. Don't me super strict, but don't go letting your kid do whatever they want to do. Spanking is only for bad, bad offenses, a grounding, taking of phone, game, and tv privileges as well as going out with friends' privileges will work as well for lighter, but also reward for excellent behavior and encourage good behavior so they will slowly learn right from wrong. Let kids makes small to medium mistakes, but stop them in huge and lifechanging mistakes, explain why those mistakes are bad and stop them if they younger or make sure they want to go through with it when they are at the right age.

[@angrybunnies9664]

The thing is you have to TEACH children to be independent. I climbed trees as a kid. But my parents taught me how to get back down.

[@gringa23]

It’s good to teach them now while they are young and the brain is growing so they will be able to handle various situations when they are older and away from their parents when a time is given.

[@ko-Daegu]

Never comes a tree I don’t think I missed anything is it that important

[@keniciagold3630]

Right! I climb with my boys. I remember my parents building us a treehouse. They modeled so much of life for me, disciplined me, talked with me and laughed with me and so much more. My mom was my best friend as an adult but she was not my company! (IYKYK) I love being an adult with children and I TRAIN my kids to be good neighbors and citizens of this plant.

[@joeschmo247]

Ginger...that's a good analogy.👍🏽

[@anonymousbo0318]

You dweebs have an odd obsession with trees

[@tijana5616]

"I don't want to parent after 18" she talked about guiding her children but will leave them alone just because they're legally grown up? Nobody knows tf they doing when they turn 18, nothing crucial in your head changes you still need experience

[@VQ_DROSE]

facts, i needed alot of my parents help enrolling in college lmao

[@tijana5616]

@@VQ_DROSE exactly my point, college is so stressful and very demanding both mentally and financely. They were so right when they said that not being a "strict" parent is a privlege. I think most teenagers couldn't survive on their own right after finishing high school.

[@alphabane3873]

I think she meant that she wants to have taught them everything they need to know to become respectful adult and from that point on , no longer need her . I kind of like that thinking however it's unrealistic .

[@jasminshade7883]

People really don't know what to do at 18? I could never I don't ask anyone for advice they need to come Jamaica .

[@PrincessZaire100]

@@alphabane3873 yeah nah. My still buys my coats and clothes and I live on own😂

[@furrycat2825]

Coming from a long history of strict parents and starting out as a rather strict parent myself, I found it helped to constantly ask myself the question “what is the point of me saying ‘no’ here?” My parents were sometimes pointlessly strict about things that didn’t matter so I initially just began saying no to things I wasn’t allowed to do as a kid. But constantly clarifying my parenting goals helped create balance. Saying “no” to my kids eating whatever they wanted was teaching them healthier lifestyles, but saying “no” to staying up an hour later on Fridays was a pointless life lesson as most adults stay up later on Fridays so I allow it, etc.

[@yvettebowles9011]

When parents still spanked their kids, we didn't have almost as many juvenile detention centers as there are adult prisons. I was spanked. I'm grateful for my parents disciplined me. I grew up to be respectful. I am 45 and I still treat everyone with respect. There's a fine line between abuse and discipline though. Never spank a child when you are angry. Don't cross that line. Another thing, besides spanking that I don't think many parents do anymore, is grounding. I tell you, when I was growing up, I'd rather get the belt than get grounded. I myself haven't spanked my daughter since she was little. And spanking was reserved for only offenses that could lead to serious harm. My mom says I am too lenient with my daughter. While simultaneously too over protective. My daughter is special needs. Parenting and discipline are not a one size fits all. It's not always black and white, and it's complicated.

[@e_i_e_i_bro]

Spanking a special needs child. Pathetic

[@ghett0_tech228]

Judge Judy was right, people should have to get a license to have children.

[@NietzscheanMan]

They'll just not give licenses to non-socialists then. Better way to do it is to get rid of welfare, problems willmfix themselves.

[@DoveLady]

@@NietzscheanMan getting rid of welfare means getting rid of corporate welfare, and if you tell corporations they cant get government kickbacks, late stage capitalism is going to be shoved into high gear.

[@NietzscheanMan]

@@DoveLady get rid of all welfare. Capitalism is killed from the moment there is a government.

[@DoveLady]

@@NietzscheanMan class consciousness kills capitalism, not a government lol take away the government you take away whatever legislative body that can hold businesses accountable for their bad practices. government isnt the problem, centralized government is.

[@NietzscheanMan]

@@DoveLady I see you have a brain virus called communism. You don't have to worry about keeping companies accountable, you have to worry about keeping tyrannical thugs who declare themselves government accountable. Stay out of other people's lives and pockets, thanks.

[@krystalfloods6197]

I feel so bad for the kids of these parents. Letting a nine-year-old ride the subway alone is a hell no! Wtf?!

[@kwilliams8440]

Listen... I used to be all over my city at age 9 alone, but that was 20+ years ago AND, for whatever reason, I had “checkpoint” houses. I didn’t check in, but people would see me out and about, step out on their porches ask where I was going, and I’d be on my way. I was a lot like Belle in the beginning of Beauty and the Beast. I’d go to the library, the park, school, playgrounds, corner stores, grocery stores, restaurants... I didn’t understand how the city bus worked so I didn’t use it, but I could remember how to get places and would walk two or three miles from home on any given day. Half the neighborhood called me Matilda, but I didn’t have reckless parents. They were kind of strict, but I guess they just trusted I’d be alright. I was a pretty good kid and latch-key. Got really crazy allowances early on. The older I got, the further away I’d go. Looking back, I’m pretty lucky nothing happened to me. I’m from Milwaukee, WI, by the way. Real big city.

[@alliyahdabo7615]

The first thing I though of was sex trafficing. Things like that make your child a target.

[@yungtrv6p]

damn u ever been to japan? FIVE year olds be ridin the subway by themselves

[@yungtrv6p]

@@kuromaki6226 yeah ik but still crazy ash

[@yungtrv6p]

@@kuromaki6226 probably a third world country but only maybe

[@corinthia9098]

I have two little ones. I always say I am not raising little kids, I am raising future adults. My kids have been taught since day 1 "Use your words". Them being able to articulate their needs, wants, and ideas has helped tremendously in their progression into independence in a healthy way. It takes TRAINING, though. It is not imbedded in them to know how to be functional and healthy adults in society, it is taught. Balance is key!

[@alexa7437]

That one free-range parents just wanted to have kids without any of the parental responsibilities. You don't suddenly stop needing your parents after you turn 18. And wanting to be friends with your kids will never not be weird to me. I respect you as my parent but we aren't friends if you can punish me for not following your rules.

[@angelhardy5203]

The “strict parents” are just regular parent’s preparing their kids for the world and real life problems/situations.

[@Ruffneck101]

Seriously, these are normal parents doing a good job.

[@OkabexKurisu]

nope. these are normal american parents. europe is even more loose than the loose parents here

[@animalkingdom2871]

Agreed, Jubaliee is kinda stupid. I wouldn't watch it if it were not for Aba and Preach.

[@PennyWenny224]

@@OkabexKurisu nah I’m European, and you get taught from a young age to not make stupid decisions. It probably seems like parents are more hands off bc the kids know from a young age how to behave and it doesn’t need to be enforced as much as in America.

[@onemillionpercent]

yup

[@AbaNPreach]

Preach was popping off in dis one. Yall trying to go clubbing with your kids/parents? Sorry for the visual cut towards the end. Technical difficulties.

[@yourlocalwalmartshopper]

Yee

[@GigaChadsAreReal]

Have you tried calling tech support??? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@marcthibodeau9466]

Pop that Preach! Training!!! Lol

[@NK-uf1ek]

7:09 There’s this stupid thing of saying awomen instead of amen🙄. Amen in not even origin from men it’s of Hebrew origin

[@randomaccountmadeyup]

Hell no. You need to parent your kids, not be friends with them. That's how you end up with children like Mia Ponseto.

[@xtinaj7450]

As someone 15 years in the game with a very respectful son, I believe in balance , I didn't have to spank much ans I explained why I punished him and how his actions lead to my reaction. So I feel like I'm in the middle of strict and "free range" where I think before reacting and try to help them learn more than my word being absolute. And I also apologize if I was wrong. Give respect to receive respect.

[@marleefrancis1576]

I think the “parents aren’t friends” thing is malleable. Me and my mother were best friends. When she passed, I lost my best friend. We’ve had drinks together, she’s called me to go to shop at the farmer market, we had inside jokes and favorite movies.... but I still respected her as my mother. I feel like certain children would take that parent trying to have that type of relationship as a sign of weakness but my mother and I were attached at the heart. I’ve seen very maternal yet strict mothers lose their children. I’ve seen very very emotional and less strict parents lose their children. (And I mean emotionally not like they passed away) I just feel like each child is different. Not every child will respond to the “love and let love” mentality and not all children will respond to physical punishment. There’s no one model....

People who say they don’t want to parent after 18 scare the daylights out of me. I’ve changed a lot from when I was 18, and I’m just 23 now. I STILL need my parents guidance cause I just don’t know who I want to be and want their advice, accept it, then use it to help craft my bigger decisions. On top of that, 18 is a FRACTION of their life. I’d hope I have a parent for more than a few years basically.

[@nearlystuck6947]

I'm 34 and I still call my mom for advice.

[@Mlem1918]

im 25 and i wish i could have my mums advices..life is short so its better to take all of our parents wisdom while its still available.

[@metalraccoon2259]

I'm 24 and value conversations with my parents and men much older than me to strengthen my moral compass

[@arthurlefevre7706]

a parent parents you all your life, i mean my father is 50 he's calling her mom every week to talk bout life and ask her advice and all, for me that's pretty normal actually

[@ihearttails]

I suffered from narcolepsy since 15 and my mom pretty much stopped parenting then. I didn't learn valuable skills that would help me be an independent adult. Now she wants me gone and not finance most of my expenses, no problem, but she won't let me get a job or go to school. I'm 26 now and I have very little experience in life but I don't want to stay cooped up in my room all the time. I'm not getting any better living at home which I'm so thankful for my aunt for setting me up with a life coach and for the first time I have hope that when I'm finally on my own I'm going to be okay.

[@cyan2910]

“Free range kids” makes it sound like the kids are animals

[@nearlystuck6947]

Lol they ARE

[@ark2074]

@@nearlystuck6947 What

[@nearlystuck6947]

@@ark2074 what part was confusing?

[@Delimon007]

Humans ARE animals lmfao

[@leshawn.d.1805]

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."

[@BIGGELATO]

10:20 Kid: “Hey mom look I’m rubbin one out” Free-range mom: “wow thats great!” Me: oii 🤣🤦‍♂️🤣

[@ValerieAbena]

‘I don’t wanna be a parent after 18’. That’s not really supposed to be a choice when it comes to parenthood 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@alfredoavila6827]

She don't like comparing her kids to dogs. But chickens, ok.

[@TheAwe50me]

shut up

[@linnymaemullins3319]

😂😂😂😂😝

[@strife9592]

@@TheAwe50me lmao you mad?

[@TheAwe50me]

@@strife9592 lol 😆

[@denlolify]

you made me laugh out loud with that hahhahaha

[@johnpeter684]

Not telling a kid they've made a wrong decision when they wrong, is the wrong decision. And that does NOT result to responsible humans.. It just does NOT!! It results to entitled brats who never take responsibility for their actions.

[@markmarlatt1105]

I used to work security at a place for addicts. The most common thing I noticed was almost all of them couldn't admit they made ANY mistakes. It ended up with them feeling like the world was out to get them. Then they couldn't cope and downward spiraled.

[@PandaMane]

You definitely don't want to let your kids make mistakes and think they didn't do anything wrong, but you also don't want to stop your kids from making any mistakes whatsoever. Mistakes are how people learn. Let your kids make some mistakes (obviously not mistakes that may significantly hurt them) and then talk to them about it and let them understand why it was a mistake.

[@tonunknown1]

@@markmarlatt1105 I’m not trying to bad mouth my ex, but this is spot on. Her parents pretty much let them do whatever and party. Both of her brothers are in their late 20’s and live at home and both are addicts. As you can imagine, that marriage didn’t work out for a number of related reasons.

[@MrKago1]

so what you and most everyone in this thread are looking for is sports imo. and none of this "participation trophy" bullshit. the single most important thing sports teaches us is how to pick ourselves up after a loss. to reflect and self assess to improve ourselves with out berating them. they learn humility, perseverance, focus, self awareness, sportsmanship and team work.

[@kylecray7193]

My little brother is the epitome of the creation of the “entitled brat” because my mother never was hard on him. 21 years old, 5 kids later 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@icouldntthinkofaname3361]

So I have a mixed feelings on spankings. The way my father did it is that he would explain to me what I did wrong and why it was wrong. Most of the time he didn't spank me, he normally makes me stand on one leg or something like that but when he does hit me, it's for something serious. Like when I was younger I was mad, raised in a single dad house hold and everytime I see my mom she speaks ill of my dad and step-mom, telling me I shouldn't do this because she isn't my real mom or bs like that and I rolled with it and it kinda brainwashed me into dislike my step-mom. It caused me and my step-mom to have a difficult relationship which ended up with physical violence on my end. Which a I got the belt for which I rightfully deserve from my dad after he spoke to me about what I had done.

[@dawnworthy6358]

I think spanking can be used in a judicious way within a limited scope that doesn't result in emotional damage. While Aba was quick to note that violence breeds violence. But, after not being spanked by his mother, he still had a period when he frequently engaged in fighting. We know his fights were not compulsory, because he told us himself; the fights stopped because he decided to stop. My son is an adult, he didn't have a period when he fought despite being very strong and physically capable of delivering a beat down. His hands only flew if someone touched him first. The rule I gave him. In some measure, the problem is these are anecdotal examples which both contradict the studies. While I have no doubt the results of the studies are accurate for what they tested for, I do question the methodology. That is, exactly what kind of spankings are at issue and under what circumstances? I doubt these metrics were controlled for and they make a difference. Further, although the child who received no spankings may have not had the kind of damage the studies were looking for, what about the damage that comes from not being well behaved? What kind of adults did the no spanking children become? We've all seen many a child in the floor of a store deeply engaged in a conniption fit over being told no that weren't autistic. I never spanked my son for something he didn't know he was going to get a spanking for before he did it. I only used spanking for behaviors with serious consequences such as lying. I also didn't use spanking in lieu of conversation. Some things are so serious, when impulse can overcome a conversation, a reinforcing spanking can be a, "stop and think" reflex. When he was a toddler we lived on a farm - a lake 40ft from the front door and 2 lane 55 mile an hour highway at the top of our driveway. It was the threat of a spanking which kept him from walking out the door without a parent. The explanation let him out of the door unescorted once; the explanation plus a spanking didn't allow it at all. And to be frank, I would risk emotionally scarring him for life over the risk of his life everytime if it worked and, in my son's case, it did. After an explanation for why or why not a behavior is okay that would rate a spanking, I told him he could never have another spanking as long as he lived. It was totally up to him. If he did something which would garner him a spanking, he would essentially be saying to me, "Mommy, I love spankings and I want another one;" which I followed with the explanation that if he chooses the behavior he is choosing the consequences which, in this case, would include a spanking.

[@Mayyah690]

Good points

[@temari3646]

If you have a kid, you’re a parent for the rest of your life. After their 18 you stop making descisons for them that doesn’t mean you not a parent anymore 🙄

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

How is Shikamaru doing?

[@BettersonMcgee]

Thanks Temari

[@jannadee77]

Christian is an example of a "strict parent"? Lol no. She's NORMAL. Compared to the free range psychos, yeah maybe she seems strict.

[@playboijelly1593]

Insta?

[@chitlitlah]

The "strict" parents weren't really strict, more in the middle. There's a difference between authoritative parents and authoritarian parents.

[@GoScience123]

I loved when she said she doesn't yell or scream at her child. Like me and my brother always had an understanding that our moms stressed as fuck and she's gotta let it out somehow. It takes so much strength to be more open with your kid and be reasonable in times of distress.

[@idontlikeuidiot2060]

@DreadLoc Sensi liking the opposite sex is being a simp so your a simp as well?

[@SirHurricane_]

@@idontlikeuidiot2060 nah he’s gay

[@tayloranonson]

I was raised in a culture where spanking was normal, but spanking wasn't the go-to punishment. There were other disciplinary actions that happened before they got to spanking. Just like in the adult world, there are many actions usually taken before someone is arrested and taken to jail. That obviously depends on the offense. If you are a parent that spanks their child for everything then you are taking away the impactfulness of a spanking. Kids shouldn't just learn from being spanked on every minor mistake they make. If You're only knowledge of disciplinary action is spanking Then you need to do some research and find different ways, non-physical ways to correct your child.

[@heyGV8]

I grew up in a very strict and abusive household which ultimately led to me despising my parents and how they treated me, but I also appreciate the values I was taught just because it “trained” (lol) me to be a functional adult now

[@dudewhy2849]

I get some of the arguments for “free range” parenting. Kids need to grow up in an environment where they’re able to actually grow and learn responsibility. That being said, you still need to be a parent. YOU need to raise them, YOU need to punish where punishment is due. You need to teach them.

[@koolaidjerk]

I don't think "free range" has much to do with punishment or establishing rules. My understanding is that they just give the kids more freedom to wander around/go places by themselves. That doesn't preclude raising them, being a parent or having rules.

[@dudewhy2849]

@@koolaidjerk one of the not strict parents literally says that she doesn’t want a trained child. That kind of encapsulates what I said in my post and why I said it. The older woman absolutely understands having some control, while giving enough to her kids that she isn’t being a helicopter parent. I guess I didn’t actually clarify that I was referring to one person in the video 😅 my bad.

[@helloworld7818]

It's not about punishment. Life will punish them enough. Why don't you let them see the consequences by themselves?

[@whatzittooyah]

You can’t learn responsibility on your own you have to be taught responsibility. If you just run around without someone telling you what you did wrong, how are you gonna know that it’s wrong

[@King-ns7it]

@@helloworld7818 because the consequences are different in every situation. The wrong action can cost them their life or someone else's. If you dont want the responsibility of having to make decisions for your kids, dont have them because thats what parenting is

[@IratePuffin]

That black girl has it figured out. That’s exactly how I raised my boys and they both are great guys who never gave me any trouble.

[@addyrovirosa1800]

That's how my parents raised the first half of us (12) kids, the other half is way more lenient and they're kinda difficult to even be in the same room with.

[@aaronmartinez1]

@@addyrovirosa1800 wait are you saying 12 kids in total or 24?

[@user-fm3ye9bk3x]

@@aaronmartinez1 I think they meant out of 12 kids , first half (6)

[@joeyjackson5075]

Somehow my parents got me to behave in public. I’m afraid if I have kids my instinct the first time they start bothering other people i’d grab their wrist and start to tell them through my teeth “you’re being an absolute nuisance to everyone around you, cut that shit out right the fuck now or we’re gonna have problems” and if they don’t listen I don’t really know what to do. Like what I’d want to do is hit them for being such snarky little ungrateful shit. I don’t think I’d really be a good parent.

[@outtheway8046]

Black Woman✊🏿

[@Holy_Grapefruit]

The strict parent's sound like they're raising kids, the free-range parents sound like they're raising pet kids.

[@Bruh-rl2bw]

I'm so glad that my parents didn't have the same mindset as Jody, had some roommates that's kicked me out a few years back, my Pops has always let me crash on his couch when times got tough. He always told me "have a job or school in two weeks or kick rocks" that shit scared me til one time it took me a little longer to find work than two weeks, he told me he wouldn't really kick me out since I was actually trying and searching. Without a guy like that who didn't just take me in but also pushed me to do better, I would have no work ethic. I'm grateful to my father

[@winning71able]

"This girl looks like she grows her own oatmeal" Im fuckin DEAD

[@metasodium2170]

I just love when im listening to a vid while reading comments, and once i read the comment, i hear the quote lmfao

[@taybaybay5553]

My favorite part 🤣

[@therefjeff2730]

I'm no parent, but a lot of issues going on in our current society is partly due to failed parenting. There are definitely LOTS of people out there who shouldn't be parents.

[@morpheusbeats6493]

Just because you can be a parent, doesn't mean you should. Preachhh 🙏

[@sam.44400]

Yess thank you! 👏🏽 I'm not a parent yet either but all it takes is a couple of child growth and development classes to realize that the way you parent and care for your child affects your child in every way. Mentally, emotionally, physically, it affects their future, how they interact with people, their morals, everything.

[@kode_kween]

Granola Jenny is one of them.

[@xaxfixho]

in your would WHO would determine who gets to be a parent? without being tyrannical! if YOU had power we would ALL endup with ZERO rights .LIGHTEN UP!!!

[@elizegood7722]

Preach’s “we’re about to go in the store; don’t look at nothing, don’t touch nothing, don’t ask me for nothing…” gave me PTSD flashbacks 🤣🤣🤣

[@grampagohan3385]

Research on spanking is based on children that were overtly abused. Those studies only conclude that kicking your child chest in is bad. And i didnt give a damn if everyone else in my platoon got punished for my actions, as long as im gucci

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

For the sake of everyone, don't have kids unless you're willing to teach, train and discipline them. Kids are stupid, they need routines, guidance and discipline. Falling from a tree can mea a broken back or a broken skull.

[@TheAwe50me]

but also love care attention, companionship, money. It takes a lot not something you do when you're bored or because your religion doesn't want you to abort or wants you to have a family. For most people born before 90s kid was means to say you got social standing. And you can reproduce and make good kid. Its all about ego. It really sucks

[@lolazal1]

Also, falling from a tree can mean - death

[@talk2minice490]

Kids are not stupid, they need guidance from an ADULT

[@davidlenz9902]

Wait, you mean children are not angels naturally, and it isn't societal institutions that corrupts them as they grow?? But rather children are fallible and actually need moral guidance from societal institutions as they get older? Who would've thunk it?!?!

[@CDub-df2us]

Lmaooo

[@paronagrant2953]

Parent "I dont want to be a parent after 18" child 'I dont want to be your child when you old and need help'

[@The_ScapeGoat]

And there it is... Gavin McInnes always quotes his father "You can friends with your kids when they're young or you can friends with them when they're old."

[@ju999X]

🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

[@RT-xj3of]

Forreal. She should have never been allowed to have children. Useless ass excuse of a person.

[@juan.c.mijares]

Out of most episodes this one was really eye opening.

[@LadyLux223]

Preach talking about the mom at the store…that’s me . I felt that impersonation in my soul . 😂 don’t touch nothing!! Don’t even look at anything!

[@djlarrysouldtd]

The Bible even says “Train up a child in the ways that he/she should go, for when they are old they will not stray from it.”

[@FloridaGoth]

I know some people's eyes lookin like they're getting possessed reading the word bible. I csn tell folk at bear minimum the good book is an excellent guide to being and adult and you think i told them to kill their kids. Rough world man

[@Lilpeach523]

I don't know; I strayed.

[@joshuaottley7902]

It also said spare the rod, spoil the child... so...

[@lamosaures]

@@joshuaottley7902 as a Sheppard herds his sheep.... as in guide not beat. People misuse that verse all the time.

[@neilsom5117]

@@lamosaures yeah it was a metaphor for discipline not saying you should spank or whatever

[@Sabrinageerman]

My parents were like Jen and I always felt like they never gave a shit about me. It’s given me so many issues when I grew up. There needs to be a balance

[@valerietheawkwardartist]

Same. My mom called it relaxed parenting.

[@lazy_panda8771]

Yeah that can be pretty bad.

[@onemillionpercent]

exactly

[@summerrose8110]

@@valerietheawkwardartist I'm sorry.

[@brookieb4796]

I am sorry that you felt that way.

[@VettaBoop]

"No you can't go and break your arm". I'm fucking decreased 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@madmouse7989]

"I don't wanna be a parent after they're 18" ...sadly honey I'm not so sure you wanna be a parent now.

[@knownothing111]

I’d allow my 9 year old to travel alone on a Japan subway. I wouldn’t allow a 9 year old to go within a mile of a NYC subway without a weapon and a year of combat training.

[@bitchwhocanargue5425]

Lol 😂 I feel similar though. Japan is so safe I'm slightly envious. I wish I could send my seven year old to go to the town centre and get some groceries without worrying about them getting kidnapped, lost or runover. But I live in what is considered the drug den of Buckinghamshire so...

[@jamasian]

I had that same thought. My parents were like... this ain't Japan. No where in the US would we be just takin a subway or city bus hahaha

[@amuro9624]

Even in japan it's not safe. There's a huge amount of parents who have lost their kids while visiting Japan. The kids go missing and they're never found. The Japanese police tries to "hide" it out of pride. There's literally an association for people to whom that happens.

[@abduleve8688]

Dude... Japan? A society filled with pedophiles, perverts, suicidal people? There are a lot of stories of kidnappings and also there are little girl cafes entertaining adult clients.

[@verscarii3238]

@@somebody700 People need to quit acting like Japan is some paradise where everyone gets along, Japanese culture can be ridiculously cold and unsympathetic, especially to foreigners.

[@kokobunni5897]

Try teaching a free range classroom of 35-42 students. Let me know how that goes. -me, a teacher.

[@deesavage3777]

I tell mine quick "I'm not your mama".....they can be free range at home but not in my classroom....these kinda folk need to ALWAYS homeschool

[@Boosted_aj]

I don’t think that’s a good example but yes I agree free range parenting is a joke

[@animalkingdom2871]

😂 right. Not a parent. But I've seen enough bad ones.

[@NealBones]

🤣

[@Megan6772]

THIS. 👏👏👏💯

[@Hnnhjkjm]

Parenting really depends on the country your from, I realise it more and more.

[@Zumzizeroo17]

I always use to criticize my parents for being strict, but they are much more lax looking back now compared to how I parent. My son isn’t going anywhere without me or my husband, no sleepovers, no going out anywhere that I don’t know the people, no no no. Things are so dangerous nowadays and I need to make sure he is okay. When you’re a parent, the worrying will never cease but while he’s small, you need to be monitored 24/8.