Iran and Israel need each other - here's why | Defence in Depth

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The Telegraph

The Telegraph

28 күн бұрын

Israel bombed an Iranian consulate. Iran retaliated with hundreds of missiles and drones against Israel, but didn’t kill anyone; then Israel struck back with a bombing raid just small enough for the Iranians to pretend it had not happened.
The world held its breath as the middle east’s military superpowers headed towards a conflagration that would have ignited the entire region, and quite possibly triggered world war three. Then, just as suddenly, it was all over.
What on earth was Tehran thinking?
In this episode of Defence in Depth, Roland Oliphant, senior foreign correspondent, asks the question: would a war with Israel rally Iranians to the flag - or would it be the last straw that would see them finally overthrow the regime?
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@telegraph
@telegraph 26 күн бұрын
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@BrandonClark-mz9dp
@BrandonClark-mz9dp 26 күн бұрын
I think The Telegraph should do a video on the history and prominence of the Sudanese Rapid Support Forces (RSF), in light of the current humanitarian catastrophe following the beginning of last year's civil war.
@musative
@musative 26 күн бұрын
It would be really interesting to learn more about propaganda/ disinformation circulating on both sides about Israel/Hamas via social media, and how this is being used to influence electoral/ trade union politics in the West, and to what end. And more broadly where do pro-Palestinian/ anti-Zionist views on the left come from (e.g. how did Chomsky, Pappé, Zizek etc come to form their viewpoints)? It can't all just be from Iranian propaganda... Right?
@PERSIANGULF868
@PERSIANGULF868 22 күн бұрын
💩🇺🇸💩🇲🇫💩🇬🇧💩🇺🇦💩🇮🇱💩🇩🇪💩
@user-zy7zq5qx6f
@user-zy7zq5qx6f 20 күн бұрын
🇮🇷🇵🇸✨🇮🇷🇵🇸✨🇮🇷🇵🇸✨🇵🇸🇮🇷 Or jab Hitler ne Israel walo ko nikal diya the Germany se to koi country ne unhai nahi liya. Lekin Palastine walo ne unhai apni zamin per rhane diya or fir kuch salo bad Palastine walo ki zamin ade se ziyada Israel walo ne unhai mar ker chin Liye uska kya? Unka ka hak nahi hai kya apni zamin wapas lene ka? ✡👎✡👎✡👎✡👎✡👎✡👎✡👎✡👎✡
@zulkarnainkhankhosa
@zulkarnainkhankhosa 19 күн бұрын
Pakistan & India
@mry1393
@mry1393 26 күн бұрын
this was the most informative video I've watched in a while
@MichelMrz
@MichelMrz 22 күн бұрын
As an Iranian who opposes the regime, let me answer that question: 9:10 The borders of Iran hold immense significance for the majority of people. Personally, I feel a surge of intense emotion whenever I hear of possible conflicts erupting on our soil or discover attempts to incite tensions among minorities by Israel. Instead of engaging Iran directly or supporting the division of Iran, the West should focus on diplomacy and addressing issues outside of borders. It's crucial to understand that the people of Iran have a deep love for their homeland and are willing to defend every inch of it with their lives.
@Arte-Vi
@Arte-Vi 22 күн бұрын
I understand that nobody is talking about invading Iran, but about stoping Iran's regime from having nukes. Nobody cares about France having Nukes, or India or even Israel, but Iran's regime is a very active promotor of terror, and terror with nukes will produce horrifying things that probably have no name yet to describe them. It has to be avoided by all means. Therefore, I don't think a diplomatic solution is possible with terrorists. Not with this regime.
@6balance9
@6balance9 22 күн бұрын
@@Arte-Vione mans terrorist, is another mans freedom fighter.
@6balance9
@6balance9 22 күн бұрын
KZbin is censoring my comments lol 7times
@6balance9
@6balance9 22 күн бұрын
Is another mans freedom fighter
@PERSIANGULF868
@PERSIANGULF868 22 күн бұрын
🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷 > > > > 🇮🇱🇬🇧🇺🇸🇩🇪🇲🇫
@carms500
@carms500 19 күн бұрын
I think its important to explain how physically far apart the two countries are. Any direct confrontation would involve rockets and airplanes. Large scale tank battles or infantry clashes are simply impossoblr for both countries.
@tzar9ja
@tzar9ja 16 күн бұрын
Quite impossible for the smaller but not the larger one with proxies.
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 20 күн бұрын
Terrific discussion and speaker. RS. Canada
@nofham7311
@nofham7311 26 күн бұрын
🫡 Sharp and levelheaded report, now that’s journalism!
@ariankarimi952
@ariankarimi952 24 күн бұрын
Trash and totally biased. Good luck with your superpower Israel.
@Bozzy-zq8vw
@Bozzy-zq8vw 19 күн бұрын
wow... god help us, if this is journalism..
@charbelh.boutros4971
@charbelh.boutros4971 22 күн бұрын
Most importantly, the military industrial complex needs both of them to remain forever at odds.
@LOKSTED
@LOKSTED 15 күн бұрын
Blaming centuries of conflicts on arms company is insanely stupid
@bradayers9637
@bradayers9637 15 күн бұрын
"But the military industrial complex" -anyone too lazy to learn the first thing about geopolitics
@user-vp2lz4qu5v
@user-vp2lz4qu5v 15 күн бұрын
​@@LOKSTEDno conflict
@areaxisthegurkha
@areaxisthegurkha 11 күн бұрын
@@bradayers9637 true tbh, the military complex does benefit from it but they are not the fricking Sith Lord.
@juancsmix
@juancsmix 11 күн бұрын
how to detect a brain dead person: this type of comment
@betweenlamppost
@betweenlamppost 24 күн бұрын
Dude, Iran spent $30 million baby drones and 72 hour warning while it took Israel $1.5 billion of US tax payer money! Do the simple math and say who lost!🤷‍♀️
@User9681e
@User9681e 22 күн бұрын
Wdym now they get billions by selling the interception systems easily with 99% real world proven anti blastic missile capability Btw Iran did it because they know Israel could intercept it
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc 22 күн бұрын
Israel isn't poor as Iran
@User9681e
@User9681e 22 күн бұрын
@@nwankwosampson-xk3jc Israel is much much smaller and has oil , diamond trade industry , gas , hightech etc It's not poor
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc 22 күн бұрын
@@User9681e it's a mistake bro. I forget to put "not"
@gonzalesfrederic6213
@gonzalesfrederic6213 22 күн бұрын
​@@User9681eGas, lsrael has. Oil, barely. But indeed if a country has highly capable scientists, it is lsrael. Not that the US, India, France, Russia, and others do not, but lsrael impresses
@thedavid00100
@thedavid00100 24 күн бұрын
The fact that we live in a world where an American president can warn a Near East country not to strike an ally and it still struck is truly a remarkable turn of events
@costcontrolteam2618
@costcontrolteam2618 21 күн бұрын
Senile old man gets a message, forgets it while he is shuffling across the stage in the wrong direction. Obama is running the White House, not Biden.
@eranhaim9913
@eranhaim9913 11 күн бұрын
Biden's word is worthless and everyone knows it
@ET_LWO
@ET_LWO 20 күн бұрын
4:28 Strategic patience
@juggernautxx_
@juggernautxx_ 6 күн бұрын
Saying its not just wetern propaganda then stating western propaganda😂😂
@animulovers3881
@animulovers3881 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful explaination..i wish peace will rule
@shahrozyousefi48
@shahrozyousefi48 20 күн бұрын
Good analyse!
@kayswag2nv
@kayswag2nv 26 күн бұрын
Nice in Dept Dom
@asadbinmushtaq
@asadbinmushtaq 21 күн бұрын
Very well done Roland
@davidfognini8526
@davidfognini8526 26 күн бұрын
Right, Iran needs Israel but in HELL 😂
@user-nx8hj9xt4b
@user-nx8hj9xt4b 7 күн бұрын
Whats disappointing historical records are there as to how u deal with criminal states .Dresden and Berlin faced the wrath of the allied forces to take out hitler
@ilrozen
@ilrozen Күн бұрын
very interesting and balanced. good job!
@fettywap1738
@fettywap1738 19 күн бұрын
Good article
@robertsteele474
@robertsteele474 26 күн бұрын
Why not just call this "Israel: the Latest"?
@stompie51
@stompie51 26 күн бұрын
Huh? It’s about Iran.
@robertsteele474
@robertsteele474 26 күн бұрын
@@stompie51 Sure it is. "#israel #iran #explained"
@bratzoc1785
@bratzoc1785 22 күн бұрын
West really did not understand that whoever Sit in Iran Regime... They will still oppose Israel in the Region 😆
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc 22 күн бұрын
And who cares
@eranhaim9913
@eranhaim9913 11 күн бұрын
no they wouldn't Iran and Israel used to be friends. I'm Israeli and my grandpa came with an Israeli company to build a hotel in Iran in the 70's. he was greeted good. it's merely the Islamic republic that made an enemy out of America and Israel.
@TreasaVeigas-qq5jm
@TreasaVeigas-qq5jm 26 күн бұрын
Can't imagine that such old human beings can be so evil before meeting the good God.
@user-sm3xq5ob5d
@user-sm3xq5ob5d 26 күн бұрын
Fact is that those who most fervently claim religious beliefs are those who are the least fervent actual believers. It is only a tool to stay in power. Religion is for the masses.
@PauloAdriano-zo2ng
@PauloAdriano-zo2ng 22 күн бұрын
Who? Biden? Or Bibi? Age doesn't improve everything. Biden will age like milk toast.
@muhammadafg1126
@muhammadafg1126 17 күн бұрын
@@user-sm3xq5ob5d facts netanyahoo killing palestinians on a daily bases
@MyTubeOne
@MyTubeOne 16 күн бұрын
8 to 9 billion no one mean No one can afford final count down
@amirrezatm2872
@amirrezatm2872 5 күн бұрын
It was an awesome video, a correction is needed here: The nationalists who said "why isn't the leader responding the the bombing of the consulate" weren't actually demanding a response, but making fun of the weakness of IRGC's power against foreign armies (and that they only have enough strenght to beat us the people for hijab)
@MyTubeOne
@MyTubeOne 16 күн бұрын
But it should not ignore Because Human being is very strange often
@user-tb7nj8di7i
@user-tb7nj8di7i 22 күн бұрын
When Iran and Israel come together no nation can stand with them but the west divided them. There are more Jews in Iran than other countries apart from US and maybe Israel
@jolness1
@jolness1 19 күн бұрын
1) no… 2) hostilities between Iran and Israel aren’t western plots
@MustafaAli-lb8dq
@MustafaAli-lb8dq 15 күн бұрын
Bullshit. Majority of the Jews left Iran and moved to Israel.
@MrZZooh
@MrZZooh 14 күн бұрын
​@MustafaAli-lb8dq there are still some 10 thousand Jews left in Iran.
@MustafaAli-lb8dq
@MustafaAli-lb8dq 14 күн бұрын
@@MrZZooh That is nothing compared to the Jews living in Irma before Israeli state
@xWeAreCoolx
@xWeAreCoolx 26 күн бұрын
Hi Dom
@PonelyPonely
@PonelyPonely 22 күн бұрын
Irans military base wasnt bombed in isfahan lol. Israel launched a bunch of dji size drones and it was all taken down hence why none of the media talks about it since it was sooo bad lol.
@AbhinavSingh-nl7ov
@AbhinavSingh-nl7ov 14 күн бұрын
Nicely written.
@G.RobertMoore-dk4sz
@G.RobertMoore-dk4sz 24 күн бұрын
IDK, within the first 30 seconds the reporter refers to Israel and Iran as (albeit 'regional') superpowers. I think it's appropriate to call them great powers, but not superpowers (nor, of course, hyperpowers). Those words do mean something.
@shahradebrahimzadeh7693
@shahradebrahimzadeh7693 5 күн бұрын
very accurate analysis
@Fa2x_Cy
@Fa2x_Cy 22 күн бұрын
Propaganda as well…
@thenewniccage2283
@thenewniccage2283 26 күн бұрын
Hello Dominic
@JM-bo7ko
@JM-bo7ko 19 күн бұрын
Why can’t we all just get along. In the end what’s the point
@eltonbritt1502
@eltonbritt1502 15 күн бұрын
Iran itself may not be attacking Israel, but its proxies are.
@danilomillendez4343
@danilomillendez4343 Күн бұрын
Sir, pls clarify - need each other to be foe or to be friend?
@idankamhine3333
@idankamhine3333 15 күн бұрын
Nice video just the title is very misleading - why Israel need Iran? It wasn't talked about in the video (possibly because Israel doesn't need it at all)
@darshansingh4375
@darshansingh4375 19 күн бұрын
Sounds like a fair assessment. Let’s pray wisdom will prevail , and that wider war will be avoided..So far Netanyahu is committing a genocide in Gaza and in the West Bank. He is a ruthless corrupt leader using war to stay in power.
@John-bravooo
@John-bravooo 18 күн бұрын
Iran committed a genocide in syria
@competitionplus798
@competitionplus798 14 күн бұрын
Brits need to chill islamic Republic is here to stay
@Birthhammer
@Birthhammer 15 күн бұрын
That ‘hard revenge’ poster was clearly fake
@TheMagicLemur
@TheMagicLemur 26 күн бұрын
Good analysis, although misses the fact that Iranians themselves mocked Iran's retaliatory strike.
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 26 күн бұрын
Iran is full of groups that hate the regime.
@gusawad8121
@gusawad8121 4 күн бұрын
They actually didn't and a lot of them were praising the attack. Go back to your hole.
@thembastoep733
@thembastoep733 14 күн бұрын
so theres no reason as to why they need each other, what a waste
@eldarbaris6766
@eldarbaris6766 13 күн бұрын
"Breaking a rule that never been broken before": 5:58 Nahhh, iran did it against an Israeli embassy in Argentina in 1992
@ALKalashnikov
@ALKalashnikov 11 күн бұрын
It wasn't officially claimed
@pubguc6771
@pubguc6771 19 күн бұрын
Iran including
@Awon5
@Awon5 9 күн бұрын
This senior foreign correspondent lives in gaga-land. initially i thought he was an israeli spokesman. Needs to learn more about war strategies
@thekneidlachengineer6038
@thekneidlachengineer6038 15 күн бұрын
Comparing Mullah's Iran with an elected prime minister of a liberal democracy says volumes about the western moral decay. Dangerous times ahead...
@user-vp2lz4qu5v
@user-vp2lz4qu5v 15 күн бұрын
West have democracy lol
@mimjimsaghafi5051
@mimjimsaghafi5051 11 күн бұрын
Lots of misinformations. Let alone unprofessional judgment. Forexample strategic patient was never mentioned by Mr.khamenei.
@orientalcaesar
@orientalcaesar 21 күн бұрын
6:00 The building that was bombed was NOT part of the embassy. A lot of it is misinformation or disinformation.
@Eyewitness4545
@Eyewitness4545 25 күн бұрын
Free Palestine from Israel. 🇵🇭❤️🇵🇸
@Eyewitness4545
@Eyewitness4545 24 күн бұрын
@@tomnik9592 🌏❤️🇵🇸
@LAmusic2023
@LAmusic2023 13 күн бұрын
​@@Eyewitness4545🇺🇸🇮🇱
@user-xl6mg1tm7s
@user-xl6mg1tm7s 26 күн бұрын
Ok let
@thenguyen4873
@thenguyen4873 21 күн бұрын
Iran isnt as bad as what america make them out to be. Just cause a country doesnt like war as jt know their people will suffer due to the war. What happiness cone fro war?
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 12 күн бұрын
It's an agitator full of mad mullahs. The people of Iran are mostly lovely....its just the dysfunctional islamists
@eranhaim9913
@eranhaim9913 11 күн бұрын
Iran doesn't like war? or that's why they founded, armed, and funded Hezballa, the Houthis, armed and funded Hamas and send their forces everywhere to surround Israel?
@mrbaywatch21
@mrbaywatch21 25 күн бұрын
This was actually pretty informative
@satiricgames2129
@satiricgames2129 26 күн бұрын
Reckless when its Israel cool storry
@rana123asif
@rana123asif 20 күн бұрын
Preset match or drama
@h.n1977
@h.n1977 18 күн бұрын
No
@PeaceTrain1
@PeaceTrain1 26 күн бұрын
Dude, World is getting the truth! Shut up!
@jacobsaunders1092
@jacobsaunders1092 26 күн бұрын
What? 😂
@DavidDing-op5jm
@DavidDing-op5jm 26 күн бұрын
What a shameless and laughable promotion of the british monarchy
@DavidDing-op5jm
@DavidDing-op5jm 25 күн бұрын
@@FunnyBunny-pd5xx is that your best comeback😏
@yesyes-om1po
@yesyes-om1po 25 күн бұрын
the greatest promotion of the british monarchy is in the history books with how much more peaceful and put together the entire middle east and africas were under british rule
@alionline999
@alionline999 19 күн бұрын
The telegraph is a mossad outlet.😂😂🎉
@Bell_plejdo568p
@Bell_plejdo568p 11 күн бұрын
All westren media is
@workoutwarriorzone
@workoutwarriorzone 9 күн бұрын
Indeed
@MosiacSecretpatio
@MosiacSecretpatio 18 күн бұрын
Ap
@adriennefried5368
@adriennefried5368 22 күн бұрын
Fahad killed yesterday in Iran 😢
@PERSIANGULF868
@PERSIANGULF868 22 күн бұрын
Fake news 😂
@youtubeuser1946
@youtubeuser1946 12 күн бұрын
​@@PERSIANGULF868 Salam. Who is farhad?
@netsiteing
@netsiteing 20 күн бұрын
Ayatollah terror regime tried to save face (and it may have for some its domestic supporters) but in fact it was embarrassed (before those who actually saw what happened) while Israel showed the regime how easily it can strike within.
@user-fi7hr3gx4h
@user-fi7hr3gx4h 7 күн бұрын
Iran thousands of years of history and family tree. Israel was created 1948. Do the match
@singhvlog4962
@singhvlog4962 24 күн бұрын
Why this Israel is always on the show! What Netanyahu fighting for ? are we dealing for another ww3?
@stephanieb8267
@stephanieb8267 25 күн бұрын
For the algorithm
@netsiteing
@netsiteing 20 күн бұрын
Iranian people can and should bring down the Ayatollah's regime and save the People/Nation with great Persian history and future possibilities to be a flowering nation of the Middle East
@user-vp2lz4qu5v
@user-vp2lz4qu5v 15 күн бұрын
Like bibi in israel
@MrShoeReviews
@MrShoeReviews 17 күн бұрын
Why are we so hypocritical on what Isreal is doing? Feels like we are supporting a devil.
@adriennefried5368
@adriennefried5368 22 күн бұрын
Oxymoron civilized war 😢
@PauloAdriano-zo2ng
@PauloAdriano-zo2ng 22 күн бұрын
Just like an *illegal invasion,* as opposed to a legal invasion. 😮😅
@NimaKhoie
@NimaKhoie 18 күн бұрын
Middle-East's military super powers!?? Is this "expert" for real!??
@danisraelmalta
@danisraelmalta 15 күн бұрын
Thats the most idiotic take i ever saw.
@gonzalesfrederic6213
@gonzalesfrederic6213 22 күн бұрын
Well, to make some of my desserts, l may need both Israel and Iran. Iran has the best pistachioes and Zagros figs, and Israel has great dates and melons. Now, this stated, Iran may need Israel to restore Zoroastrianism and Christianity. Israel also has Bahai, who may too contribute to giving Iran help iit get rid of lslam. The thing is, as it stands, the end of lslam in lran is jeoardized by the lranians who are willingly Muslim. I am French, l regularly encounter in France lranians who, upon being safe, revert to Zorolastrianism or Christianism (usually they opt for being Catholic or Lutherians instead of reverting to being Nestorians). If the Islamic Republic falls, l deem that within days a fitfh to a quarter of the Iranians would cease to follow lslam.
@juniorluma9129
@juniorluma9129 20 күн бұрын
Liarrrrr Stop it your lying since Persian time Iran has been Muslims so the Islamic regime will never fall
@kashinathpawar6341
@kashinathpawar6341 24 күн бұрын
🇮🇳 ❤🇵🇸 😍😍😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😘
@LAmusic2023
@LAmusic2023 13 күн бұрын
Hindus support Israel
@SteveIsabelle-yu3cb
@SteveIsabelle-yu3cb 24 күн бұрын
MYXLAVACEALLAHISGREATGRANTISALLAH.INCHALLAH FRONTILIMESALAME.
@oggierock
@oggierock 16 күн бұрын
What, no Russian bots on here? 😂
@alcibiadestome9619
@alcibiadestome9619 14 күн бұрын
What ?
@sarahjames927
@sarahjames927 23 күн бұрын
Why does Iran not show this level of fervour against Myanmar. Hypocrites
@josefshah7878
@josefshah7878 15 күн бұрын
Why doesn’t Saudi aribia doing anything then are hypocrite and doesn’t even help Palestine and they want to be friends with Israel instead
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 18 күн бұрын
Wxpensive war😅
@ulanulan2344
@ulanulan2344 15 күн бұрын
The author is just jealous with Iran cause Brits politics are just boring...
@gersonlevilazzaris4785
@gersonlevilazzaris4785 16 күн бұрын
Am Israel Chai ❤
@MrZZooh
@MrZZooh 14 күн бұрын
😘🇮🇱💩🧻🚽
@farhathasnain1508
@farhathasnain1508 21 күн бұрын
BRITISH PROPAGANDA AS USUAL
@user-sl9vx9gh9i
@user-sl9vx9gh9i 18 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@UncriticalRaceTheory
@UncriticalRaceTheory 26 күн бұрын
unprovoked invasion? Iran was targeting top Iraqi gov officials
@fghezelbash8731
@fghezelbash8731 24 күн бұрын
pertty inaccurate
@Salehalanazi-7
@Salehalanazi-7 24 күн бұрын
Both of them 0 kills lmao. They told each other before each attack lmao. What a movie
@noonwraith401
@noonwraith401 22 күн бұрын
Yep.Peasants dont understand this.
@johnsperthsangma3622
@johnsperthsangma3622 26 күн бұрын
How Ibrahim Risi exalted himself before Israel, but now he should humiliated.
@YouTubeAlex666
@YouTubeAlex666 26 күн бұрын
That Iran bloke is a right beardy git.
@norkhach1715
@norkhach1715 17 күн бұрын
U guys total BS
@mazdakbamdadan9733
@mazdakbamdadan9733 13 күн бұрын
Disgusting and misleading
@eugenearokiasamy5662
@eugenearokiasamy5662 12 күн бұрын
Hilarious nonsense.
@liv2510
@liv2510 26 күн бұрын
We all know Iran hammered Israel. If the us an Israel could off retaliated harder they would have. They just don’t have the weapons to strike Iran without being in Iraq which the Iraqi pm doesn’t want usa an Israel soldiers there. Hence why Iran has won the strategic war.
@satiricgames2129
@satiricgames2129 26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 delusional terrorist
@jacobsaunders1092
@jacobsaunders1092 26 күн бұрын
Nah we don't know that 😅 sounds like a bunch of BS to me
@noonwraith401
@noonwraith401 22 күн бұрын
What?
@liv2510
@liv2510 22 күн бұрын
@@jacobsaunders1092 yeah nah we do know, biden was begging iraqi pm to host us an israli miltary hardware, but told to go get f,:cked 🤣😂
@teonatsios491
@teonatsios491 26 күн бұрын
ISRAEL IS NOT A REGIONAL SUPERPOWER ISRAEL IS LOSING AND WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE
@Matt1975ism
@Matt1975ism 25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 lay off the drugs!
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc
@nwankwosampson-xk3jc 22 күн бұрын
How many has Iran won? Israel fighting multiple fronts and only country that does so.
@LAmusic2023
@LAmusic2023 13 күн бұрын
Palestinians are disappearing 😂😂
@profeta1982
@profeta1982 26 күн бұрын
Brillant
@sonderman8079
@sonderman8079 3 күн бұрын
As an Iranian I found this analysis a bit superficial, and some wrong info presented too.
@rooz3805
@rooz3805 12 күн бұрын
Typical Telegraph propaganda BS!
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