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Irish Girl Reacts to "Why Were the IRISH Once HATED in AMERICA?"

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Diane Jennings

Diane Jennings

3 жыл бұрын

“Irish Need not apply” 😢
Today I wanted to see how the Irish started out hated in America to becoming arguably the most beloved. Irish people are loved in America! America loves Ireland! And if you tell me otherwise I’ll fight ya!
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@jwb52z9
@jwb52z9 3 жыл бұрын
In the 60s, people were freaked that John F. Kennedy would be President because they thought that would mean the Pope would be running the US.
@davedove67
@davedove67 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to write the same thing!
@robhugh535
@robhugh535 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Even now after all these years Biden is only the second Catholic to be elected.
@ElliotNesterman
@ElliotNesterman 3 жыл бұрын
When Al Smith, former Governor of New York and a Catholic, ran for President in 1928 the anti-Catholic sentiment was blatant. Campaign signs for Hoover were prominently displayed that read, "Keep the Pope out of the White House."
@frankgladden3416
@frankgladden3416 3 жыл бұрын
@@robhugh535 Not so sure anymore....
@charlesbailey5678
@charlesbailey5678 3 жыл бұрын
@@robhugh535 And ironically, even us atheists would prefer the Pope to Biden now.
@evadedenbach1226
@evadedenbach1226 3 жыл бұрын
In Detroit, the Irish immigrants settled into a neighborhood that is now known as Corktown. Corktown is Detroit's oldest neighborhood, and it's well worth the visit.
@lynners42
@lynners42 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Love Corktown
@Kedzie_
@Kedzie_ 3 жыл бұрын
Toronto had/has Cabbagetown
@MasterMichelleFL
@MasterMichelleFL 3 жыл бұрын
Betcha they were from Cork! Lol
@grievouserror
@grievouserror 3 жыл бұрын
And you can stop by The Old Shillelagh after a day at Eastern Market.
@biggiec8933
@biggiec8933 3 жыл бұрын
Born and raised in Detroit and I never knew about this, though in my defense I don't like to travel Downtown that often.
@ronmangrum7073
@ronmangrum7073 3 жыл бұрын
I am an old retired United States Marine and I have never hated the Irish! As a matter of fact I would love to visit Ireland! I respect the pride and the lifestyle the Irish have! God bless Ireland! Respectfully submitted
@cahinton.
@cahinton. 2 жыл бұрын
Well of course not. Why would you? Hatred of the Irish died in the US well over a hundred years ago.
@buffymcmuffin5361
@buffymcmuffin5361 3 жыл бұрын
The comedy movie "Blazing Saddles" has a brief bit about discrimination against the Irish in the old West.
@tennillepatterson5500
@tennillepatterson5500 3 жыл бұрын
There's such hilarious irony in that movie! 🤣
@johncarter1137
@johncarter1137 3 жыл бұрын
@@tennillepatterson5500 The last couple of times I watched that movie the "woke" people took all the funny parts out. The problem is a lot of people can no longer laugh at themselves because of pride I guess.
@jessmith7324
@jessmith7324 3 жыл бұрын
Great film. Mel Brooks busted on everybody
@fulldino7388
@fulldino7388 3 жыл бұрын
It truly goes to show, people fear what they don't know or understand.
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
Indeedy
@ezekiellister3176
@ezekiellister3176 3 жыл бұрын
As a native american i believe our people filled the bottom gap...mass genicide etc. But no matter deep down i sooo loovvee the irish. Such a beautiful people and culture
@cbm2156
@cbm2156 3 жыл бұрын
That is deep man.
@Leon-wz1js
@Leon-wz1js 3 жыл бұрын
What I find silly about this statement, is that America was mostly English. So, the English don't know, or understand the Irish??? Yes, they were only neighbors for nearly a thousand years (prior to that, people didn't get around that much).
@therandomstranger3951
@therandomstranger3951 3 жыл бұрын
I fear things I do know. Like knowing my sandwich will be soggy by lunchtime because I forgot and added tomato before I left home.
@jamesbelshan8839
@jamesbelshan8839 3 жыл бұрын
I can't really trust Diane's judgment on violence when she happily shares her space with a terrifying murder-beast like Chewie.
@Mr1990hjc
@Mr1990hjc 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, thats the gospel truth, he's like something straight out of Dr. Who !
@SageROSA42
@SageROSA42 3 жыл бұрын
Diane, I hope you can sense the sarcasm in this one.
@jeffborowiak9398
@jeffborowiak9398 3 жыл бұрын
Stores used to have signs that said no blacks, no Irish, no dogs.
@angelfishluva8901
@angelfishluva8901 3 жыл бұрын
This comment made me think of this video here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4jagKR_d8qlZq8 It is funny and worth the watch.
@louiehernandez1477
@louiehernandez1477 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Mexicans.
@jnywd8450
@jnywd8450 3 жыл бұрын
The dogs learned to go potty outside
@paulobrien9572
@paulobrien9572 3 жыл бұрын
This resentment of the Irish immigrants led to many of the turning to civil jobs which at the time were considered lowly jobs. That's why there is such a tradition of Irish in Police and Fire departments in east coast cities such as Boston, NY and Philly. Irish politicians in Boston often summered in my hometown of Scituate MA, giving it the nickname of the Irish Riviera. The nickname is still alive today. In fact your Irish Times called us the most Irish Town in Americawww.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/welcome-to-the-most-irish-town-in-america-1.3725294
@wjstix
@wjstix 3 жыл бұрын
Also the English had set up free public schools in Ireland in the 1800s to try to Anglicize the Irish. This meant the Irish were one of the few groups who could read and write English, and could pass Civil Service tests. Same reason in Western movies the Sargeant is usually Irish - they might have been the only enlisted man in the platoon who could read and write English
@johndavis7766
@johndavis7766 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just on the East Coast. These traditions are all across the country. You see it more in the big cities like Chicago, L.A., Detroit, Portland, and other big cities like that but you'll also see it in small to medium sized town police/fire depts in the form of individualized Irish pride - such as a firefighter with a clover leaf on their Nomex hood or a Celtic version of the Maltese cross on a t'shirt. Police do the same thing.
@K1rmcc
@K1rmcc 3 жыл бұрын
Fear not, Diane, you would’ve been welcomed at any time in our history. You are a timeless beauty and a joy to behold.
@jasonreilly4497
@jasonreilly4497 3 жыл бұрын
When I was in grade school way back in the day, we had an elderly teacher from England. She was missing an arm, which she blamed on the IRA and HATED any student with an Irish last name. Like myself. Said the girls would only be good as nannies and the boys as dockworkers and we didn't deserve education. This was the 1980s btw.
@michaelroach4219
@michaelroach4219 3 ай бұрын
That's insane!
@bretbenton1661
@bretbenton1661 3 жыл бұрын
The part of North Carolina i am from was settled by Irish, Scots, English and German. The groups quickly begain to inter-marry. The area wasn't heavly populated then. Also, many of the Irish in the area became protestants. So, I have never heard anything bad in my area about the Irish and that is probably because everyone was quickly kin to each other.
@joeroberts920
@joeroberts920 3 жыл бұрын
I Totally agree (stokes County N.C.) Most of our families became Baptist, Methodist, and Pentecostal! Infact Catholics now make up less than 2% of the South.
@EmunahFL
@EmunahFL 3 жыл бұрын
There's a part of NC where the people have Irish-sounding accents. Can't remember the name of the town; I grew up in Charlotte, NC.
@bretbenton1661
@bretbenton1661 3 жыл бұрын
@@EmunahFL i live in Midland off Albemarle rd. I think the place that has that accent is on the outer banks.
@joeroberts920
@joeroberts920 3 жыл бұрын
@@EmunahFLis it Boone N.C.? I know one of the largest highlands games. In the world is held there every year. Roudy Rodney Piper was from that neck of the woods!
@yoshidadaimyo3507
@yoshidadaimyo3507 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed there are alot of families with Irish and Scottish names when I grew up in South Georgia. But they were almost all protestant. In fact there's only recently been a significant number of Catholics in the area. Mostly because of the rise in the amount of Mexican and Cuban Americans living there.
@christianoliver3572
@christianoliver3572 3 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of German and Irish immigrants to Texas when it was still it's own country and there was some conflict in areas like New Braunfels and even San Antonio. But the Irish helped build Texas when we were first starting out and made great contributions to our state.
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them even fought for the Mexicans in the Mexican-American War.
@JoePastorgomez
@JoePastorgomez 3 жыл бұрын
@@HemlockRidge St Patrick’s Bataillon Heroes honored yearly in Mexico City
@jayeisenhardt1337
@jayeisenhardt1337 3 жыл бұрын
I mean always conflict everywhere. They shot Germans for sounding like Northerners, to today where even the KKK has become progressive enough to now recruit Catholics. Still the worry about shit the Pope does, while a nice guy he does fuck up every now and then. Then ya can see factions of his church vying for attention like children trying to get a parent to say they are the best and most loved. He handles those people well, but paying attention just a bit more you start to notice almost every group just acting like kids seeking attention. Everyone, everywhere. It's like, are adults so rare these days?
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoePastorgomez Yeah. It's a matter of viewpoint. They are heroes to Mexico, and traitors to the US.
@peterjamesfoote3964
@peterjamesfoote3964 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back Diane! This is a very emotional issue and you are brave to deal with it. Some very harsh prejudice and terrible things were said about the Irish in America but we came here with many advantages compared to other groups. The first of which was speaking English and having great fluency with it. The next was having great political understanding of a system of laws based on English law with a few exceptions. Another was valuing education because Irish could not be taught in schools and had to be taught in hedgerow schools. This was helped by large families who sent children to be priests and nuns who taught in those schools. My great great grandfather Justice Peter Foote came here as a young child with his young sister Angela. They were the youngest of the children of Patrick Cush from Emmyvale in County Monahan. They were sent to Ireland with money raised by relatives who were religious (priests and nuns) and both intended to enter religious orders in the US. They were separated once here because the gang situation in Boston was so dangerous and young Peter entered School at Fordham where he graduated from a probably 6 year program when he was 19. By then his Uncle, a diocesan priest advised him to drop the dialect and change his name from Cush to Foote (related meaning) and add an E to make it look more Anglican. He came to Chicago after the Jesuits, who considered themselves missionaries in the US refused to admit him because he was so emaciated from the famine. He had watched his father collapse and die as they were burying his mother who starved to death because they had given all the food to their children. He taught at St. Mary of the Lake University which was next to the Chicago Water Tower and edited the first Catholic Magazine in the Midwest, The Monthly. He studied for the bar exam the same way Abraham Lincoln did, self study, and passed the bar in Ottawa, Illinois. He was invited to be the Second Professor of Law at Notre Dame in South Bend Indiana and then was appointed to be a Justice after the the Illinois constitution of 1865. During all this time, hate and suspicion were weapons against these new immigrants were a constant factor to be opposed. The Know Nothing political movement stirred up prejudice against these new, hard working Americans was stirred up for political gain by those fighting for political leadership in the nation. Even the neighborhood I live in now was hostile to Catholics originally, but now is dominated by an Irish Catholic presence. Our newest President Joe Biden is President and one of the reasons so much hate has been down against him is that He is Catholic. But hate is not a good legacy to anyone of Irish descent. Especially not towards other Catholic Immigrants. I saw the same pattern of antiCatholic hate against the mostly Catholic immigrants from Mexico and further South by Trump who claimed they were primarily ‘criminals and racists”. Sadly, attacking others is still a political practice here. Hope these comments help.
@willylumpnj
@willylumpnj 11 ай бұрын
Seriously, Peter, you say "so much hate has been down against Joe Biden because he is Catholic" ? Can there be a more ridiculous statement on all of KZbin? First, just because someone does not agree with Joe Biden and his horrible inflationary policies (which are bankrupting America's middle class), does not make us guilty of "hatred". Those are YOUR inflammatory words. I am of Irish descent and attended Catholic school for 13 years (Kindergarten through High School). I don't like Joe Biden because of his harmful policies. I think it is most unfortunate that you have brought politics into this discussion. I was really enjoying your writing until I arrived at that nonsense.
@jakeday547
@jakeday547 3 жыл бұрын
When my ancestor came to America, his name was Daniel O'Day, the buis against the irish was so bad he dropped the O' off of O'Day to hide being irish heritage, I'm VERY proud of my heritage, Irish ,Scottish, Norwegian and native American (Cherokee) , i guess in ireland it was spelled O'Dey ,I've found that my irish ancestors were somewhat wealthy and had a castle named after them (O'Dey castle) after all this covid is over i plan on visiting and trying to find out more , thank you for all your videos, have a great day !
@PurpleCastles
@PurpleCastles 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Yeah, my Irish ancestors had a name change too. In Galway, I'm pretty sure they were the Mannions, but by the time they got to the US, their name was Manion. Though, I'm not sure if they were forced to or didn't want people to know they were Irish so then tried to disguise it. But it's crazy, the name alterations.
@jakeday547
@jakeday547 3 жыл бұрын
My sister just reminded me that in ireland the spelling might have been O'Dea ,
@PurpleCastles
@PurpleCastles 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakeday547 Oh nice! Yeah, that looks more Irish than O'Day.
@grandmasterofthemillennium3251
@grandmasterofthemillennium3251 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, mine was O’Ruaidh
@slipstreamxr3763
@slipstreamxr3763 2 жыл бұрын
@@grandmasterofthemillennium3251 My family's name was Fox on my father's side and my ancestor Thomas Fox immigrated in 1848 from Doon County Limerick to the Outagamie Wisconsin and built a farm there.
@ilspeth99
@ilspeth99 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of us “claim” Irish heritage because a lot of Irish people hopped on a boat and moved here. We’re direct descendants. My dad’s family on his father’s side came here from Ireland in the 1730s. On his mother’s side, a bit later.
@BazTheStoryteller
@BazTheStoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
"Takin' all the jobs." "They took our jerbs!" - South Park
@anthonydeville5976
@anthonydeville5976 3 жыл бұрын
they dicker dirk er derbs!
@ogrejehosephatt37
@ogrejehosephatt37 3 жыл бұрын
Jrrk r jeerrrr!
@anthonydeville5976
@anthonydeville5976 3 жыл бұрын
@@ogrejehosephatt37 Is that you Uncle Jimbo?
@jamesalexander6417
@jamesalexander6417 3 жыл бұрын
Derker derrr! 🐓
@sdsith
@sdsith 3 жыл бұрын
Cock-a-doodle-doo!
@sayheyguy
@sayheyguy 3 жыл бұрын
It always amuses me when Diane learns about American history.
@cbm2156
@cbm2156 3 жыл бұрын
That is amusing since they do not teach it in American schools anymore.
@bryanobrien2726
@bryanobrien2726 3 жыл бұрын
@@cbm2156 What schools ? Really that is something you should get into at the college level if you so choose . World history and the major American historical events are what should be focused on before that .
@razzberrylogic
@razzberrylogic 3 жыл бұрын
“Chewie is here”, Diane did report But he wants to break out of the pillow fort!
@BMoney8600
@BMoney8600 3 жыл бұрын
I did a research paper on this in high school. I put my heart and soul into it and I ended up with a D. It broke my heart especially since my mom’s family had to take the O out of their last name when they immigrated from Ireland.
@michaelevans6669
@michaelevans6669 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Diane, have you seen the movie "Gangs of New York" hatred of the Irish features prominently in the film.
@jennasoltis9906
@jennasoltis9906 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see her reaction to that movie.
@markshannon2959
@markshannon2959 3 жыл бұрын
She should def see that movie
@mandybrewerrobinson4528
@mandybrewerrobinson4528 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rossnorris2351
@rossnorris2351 2 жыл бұрын
It is definitely on she should watch. I think she'd enjoy it
@davidbrewer2121
@davidbrewer2121 3 жыл бұрын
People need to quit holding on to the past something we couldn't help, look for a better future. I'm American and have a great hope to visit Ireland sometime.
@poetfrost
@poetfrost 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, part of the problem Britain had with Ireland is they could not entirely conquer it which makes the accusation concerning violence kind of ironic.
@SeraphusInferis
@SeraphusInferis 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather didn't leave Ireland until 1911, and he still had a lot of trouble in the USA after he earned his citizenship in 1919 Chicago. I've long considered simply returning and working IT in Ireland...
@christinastclair5623
@christinastclair5623 3 жыл бұрын
My Irish ancestors (Patrick and Bridget O’Donahue) came to America in 1845 due to the famine. They endured prejudice and hardship, but worked hard to provide for their growing family. They went on to have twelve children and opened a small grocery store. America has its problems, but over time, and hard work, things will work out in the end.
@micahcareyfilms
@micahcareyfilms 6 ай бұрын
Who gives a crap?
@seamusbyrnes8013
@seamusbyrnes8013 3 жыл бұрын
My family “Byrnes” came over to America during the potato famine. They were treated horribly. Now most of them own business, lead businesses. What angers me is how fast we forget. In the US we now want to treat others badly due to the loss of jobs. When in reality it’s the oligarchs that control our puppet politicians. Once we figure this out we will all see true wealth and prosperity.
@brianburns7211
@brianburns7211 3 жыл бұрын
The same problem happened in my family. My great grandfather was vague about his heritage, and let people think that he was a Scot. He also married into an English family. He ran a business, so I guess that he did what he had to in order to be successful.
@jaymaloney8321
@jaymaloney8321 3 жыл бұрын
Seamus, I think we've more than figured it out. Neither the politicians not the oligarchs care what we think. They're back in charge, and they have learned some interesting lessons over the past four years. They won't make the same mistakes this go 'round.
@xenostim
@xenostim 3 жыл бұрын
shy Byrnes get nowt
@jayeisenhardt1337
@jayeisenhardt1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaymaloney8321 I mean jobs are always the problem, if you can control who gets employed you control everything. Right now that comes in depersoning and getting the banks to blacklist people from ever holding money, arresting them for memes or other slights. A few years ago people were laughing at the UK for meme police, but more and more arrest in the States happening now. Some things being undone while we have massive unemployment, restrictions being lifted on companies to the amount of workers they can hire from what countries. How many greencards and families hitting no limits being imported in? Once profitable industries for workers are gonna crash hard, it will be twice as bad as the outsourcing ever was. Those thinking they were safe in tech keeping their head down and letting things get outta hand are about to be replaced as India and China have tech guys to spare who are more than willing to get their raise and do the work at half our cost or cheaper.
@jaymaloney8321
@jaymaloney8321 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayeisenhardt1337 Those are fair points Jay. Can't disagree.
@badhabitbabbitt7655
@badhabitbabbitt7655 3 жыл бұрын
Diane...I don't understand why the Irish were hated in the USA. I will always give a Huge hug to any Irish person in the USA. It's crazy how these attitudes have grown. I my family lineage goes back to the pre Revolutionary War. It's crazy but lots a love over here in the USA!!!
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰🥰
@badhabitbabbitt7655
@badhabitbabbitt7655 3 жыл бұрын
@@DianeJennings well you definitely rule Europe!!! Please find happiness and continue on your success!!
@dangill5407
@dangill5407 3 жыл бұрын
In the small town in Illinois where I grew up, there were 5 or 6 families of Irish descent. They were the backbone of our community, Bank President, big farmer, and school superintendent. The Catholic church was well represented. One of my classmates got an appointment to West Point. Each family was LARGE. Our community was primarily German and we all got along. They did love their Booze.
@brobear54
@brobear54 Жыл бұрын
My paternal Grandmother, came to the U.S. as an indentured servant from, Ireland . I think I now understand why she was so, closed off to people. It must have been a terrible time for her. Thanks for this video, Diane.
@spanishdncr71
@spanishdncr71 3 жыл бұрын
My image of Irish mums is that they always keep their homes spotless! My Irish granny was always baking and cooking and her home was spotless. She would make tea with loose tea leaves and tell me my fortune from the tea leaves at the bottom of the cup when I finished my tea.
@stephenkinney3472
@stephenkinney3472 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a lot of this. When John Kennedy was running for president, the fact he was Catholic was attempted to be used against him. Enjoyed the video greatly. Especially your insights. Hope the rest of the week gets better. 😊
@reactionisst
@reactionisst 3 жыл бұрын
My extremely devout Irish Catholic grandmother loved Kennedy for this reason. I believe that was the last time in her life she ever voted the Democratic ticket, and has been Republican ever since.
@jayeisenhardt1337
@jayeisenhardt1337 3 жыл бұрын
They did the same more recently to a guy that was Mormon. Romney? People were the same over Amy Coney Barrett... I think they still going on about her.
@reactionisst
@reactionisst 3 жыл бұрын
The story I was always told was that my great-grandfather left his family for about a year, when my grandmother was very small, and traveled north to Detroit to look for work. This was in the 1930s, so of course, there were intense economic pressures for everybody of any race or ethnic background during the Depression. But I remember being told that part of the reason too was the hope that, not only might there be more jobs in the city, but that anti-Irish prejudice might not be as strong up there, at a time when everybody would've been competing for work. I don't know how much though, if at all, my family might have exaggerated the significance of anti-Irish sentiment in this story over the years, but it's the most direct connection to that particular history that I've been told about at least.
@tomcavanaugh5237
@tomcavanaugh5237 3 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was one of those early Irish immigrants (1853). The first job he "stole" was swinging a pick to help dig the Erie Canal. So, that general story has always been of interest. There was still some friction between Catholics and Protestants when I was a kid, but any that's left seems to be generally unspoken.
@markgreene2865
@markgreene2865 3 жыл бұрын
I luve how the longer the video went, the more pronounced your Irish accent became!
@EdwardIglesias
@EdwardIglesias 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a town that was almost entirely Catholic on the border of Mexico. This has changed a lot of course but I never experienced any anti-Catholic or anti Hispanic sentiment until I left home.
@cheztourigny
@cheztourigny 3 жыл бұрын
I so wanted to give you a hug while watching this video. I found it uncomfortable and thought you were so brave to do this video. As far as I know, I have no Irish ancestry, but I have always loved the Irish music and Saint Patrick’s Day. You’re an amazingly beautiful woman, thank you for always sharing on KZbin.
@timelliott1033
@timelliott1033 3 жыл бұрын
Some of my people were Irish. I remember some of the older generations talking about these things, but they said it wasn't only non-Irish versus Irish but also "lace curtain" Irish versus the "shanty" Irish.
@jamesoconnor3188
@jamesoconnor3188 3 жыл бұрын
The most Congressional Medals of Honor have been awarded to Irish Americans.
@charlesbailey5678
@charlesbailey5678 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many bravery medals a group of people can be awarded when they literally have no fucks to give!
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 3 жыл бұрын
Just "Medal of Honor". No "congressional" in front.
@scooterdogg7580
@scooterdogg7580 3 жыл бұрын
Audie Murphy for one
@LunDruid
@LunDruid 3 жыл бұрын
I find this topic very interesting. My great great grandmother came from Ireland sometime in the 1910s or 20s (not 100% sure which decade) and also came straight to California. If she dealt with any degree of racism, I'm not aware of it. As someone who identifies fairly strongly with their Irish-American heritage, I think it's important to be aware of that history and legacy.
@dongleason9878
@dongleason9878 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Diane, I come from one of the cities where the Irish dug canals. 12 Irishmen dug a canal a mile long, 40 feet wide and 30 feet deep using only shovels and buckets. That canal has saved the city from flooding multiple times. When we were kids we told the non-Irish kids that our forefathers dug it.
@JeffDonahueScaleModeling
@JeffDonahueScaleModeling 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Diane. My Great Great Great Grandfather was born in Ireland. From what I can tell, the family name at that time was O'Donahue. My Great Great Grandfather was born in 1839, somewhere in Pennsylvania USA. Just before the Potato famine. The first thing my future mother-in-law said to my fiance when we met was,"Oh, you're marrying an Irishman!" See you next time!🍀🍀🍀
@arcofspira
@arcofspira 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited because I've never been this early for one of your videos, and I'm always happy to see your newest video!
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
🥳🥳🥳
@pressonc
@pressonc 3 жыл бұрын
The bulk of the information involved in this video really only applies to big cities and industrial areas in the mid-1800’s. In most of the countryside, the Irish encountered Scottish, German, and Native populations who largely resented the same elitist upper crust of society just as much as their Irish brethren. Largely, the Irish immigrants settled into the Appalachian regions intermarrying with their Scottish Celtic cousins and creating a Scots-Irish subculture that was, interestingly, the root of a lot of the Conservative cultural mores that are now quite widespread.
@mbranagan4277
@mbranagan4277 3 жыл бұрын
I had the impression that Northern Irish (who were Scots migrating from Scotland because of English policies) that migrated and settled thru central PA and down thru Appalachia. I recall the Irish from what we now call The Republic stuck to the East Coast Cities in the USA.
@fyrdman2185
@fyrdman2185 3 жыл бұрын
The Scots-Irish are not irish, they are Anglo-Scots people who came from the England-Scotland borders and colonized the areas. Even today the people there don't identify as irish
@pressonc
@pressonc 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbranagan4277 Some people came to America in the way you described, but many more did not. Additionally, not everyone who immigrated from the north of Ireland were just displaced Scots. My own family is comprised of Scots who fled to Ireland, intermarried, and were then bullied out of that country also, by the English…in the 1620’s. Many people from both Ireland and Scotland wound up in Savannah, Charleston, Wilmington, Williamsburg, and elsewhere in the South as entry points to the country, long before the 1800’s influx into Boston and New York. Most of those people wound up settling in Appalachia. As to the immigration due to the Famine, many Irish people from all over Ireland left the urban centers of the US and went west; many of those found homes in Appalachia, but a great many wound up as cattlemen and women and farmers in the Plains and other areas of the western territories.
@pressonc
@pressonc 3 жыл бұрын
@@fyrdman2185 First, your profile name shows a clear bias; so, I can’t help but question your objectivity on this topic. The Scots-Irish are largely double immigrants. They are comprised or two differing backgrounds. 1.) People from the Scottish Highlands who opposed English rule and were forced out of their own country by Anglo despots and tyrants. 2.) People from the Scottish lowlands that saw collaboration with their Anglo oppressors as preferable to death and exile. Both of those groups immigrated to varying places in Ireland over a period of about 300 years. Ulster, in modernday Northern Ireland, was the focal point of both groups of immigrants. The highlanders tended to go into the countryside, join into the communities and cultures they found, and intermarry with their Irish neighbors. The collaborators resisted that trend until at least the late 1800’s, for the most part. The collaborators quickly began oppressing their Highlander countrymen with similar vigor and zeal as they oppressed the native Irish population. And, beginning around 1612, sold the most troublesome Scots in the region into servitude in America, which is how my first ancestors came to Jamestown in 1626. In America, people were called “Scots-Irish” as a monicker describing their mixed heritage. In the British Isles (a term I think should be taken back from its euphemistic implication of English superiority), the collaborative Ulster Scots were sometimes called “Scots-Irish” to distinguish that they weren’t true culturally Irish people, but oppressive traitors pushing English colonialism. The Highland Scots who came to Ireland and managed to stay there were largely integrated into Irish society and ceased being a culturally distinct demographic. As to my use of the term “Scots-Irish” in my original post, in the mid to late 1800’s, another blending of Celtic ancestry happened in the United States. People of distinctly Scottish ancestry, people of distinctly Irish ancestry, and people of Scots-Irish ancestry all came together in various parts of the country, largely centered in Appalachia, and created their own culture, distinct from any of their ancestral cultures but carrying forward many ideologies and common cultural themes into the future. For that reason, people from the mountains of Georgia on up into the mountains of upstate New York can all trace certain habits, words, phrases, and even culinary ideas back to Irish and Scottish roots. So, yes, some Scots-Irish people are Scottish lowlanders who are not particularly Irish, but that is by no means the only group wearing that nomenclature, nor even the most common variety.
@fyrdman2185
@fyrdman2185 3 жыл бұрын
@@pressonc The Lowland Scots were never oppressed, they were the ones who started the union. The Scots-Irish are simple to define, they're mostly Lowland Scots and Northern English people with a few highlanders. It's as simple as that, no need to write a bloody essay and complicate the matter.
@justgreta1796
@justgreta1796 3 жыл бұрын
I hope your computer is feeling better. I moved to the south, Georgia, and was cornered by a bunch of Protestants between classes and told I wasn't a Christian and worshipped idols because I was a Catholic. They also called me a damn Yankee. This was 1982! I love your videos, Diane. Keep up the great work!
@ctimage1426
@ctimage1426 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather's family came here during the potato famine. My grandmother's family came here during "The troubles". I know Diane would say my family is Irish American, but in the U.S. people say we are Irish. I'm told we are eligible for dual U.S./ Irish citizenship. We'll see how the next 4 years go.
@ftmahoney
@ftmahoney 3 жыл бұрын
When you get locked up by the police, you go in a “paddy wagon”
@amishmime
@amishmime 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I never made that connection.
@Fatelvis2
@Fatelvis2 3 жыл бұрын
is it because they are always arresting the Irish or because many of the police are Irish
@ftmahoney
@ftmahoney 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fatelvis2 they were always arresting the Irish troublemakers
@Fatelvis2
@Fatelvis2 3 жыл бұрын
@@ftmahoney everyone talks about being a gangster but who has a police vehicle named after them....just saying
@Fatelvis2
@Fatelvis2 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Black410 didnt they just drive you around the corner then let you out
@TR4200
@TR4200 3 жыл бұрын
A police van coined a Paddy-wagon; A lot of police men where Irish and it was loaded with drunken Irishman.
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I heard that!
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 3 жыл бұрын
"...Coined a Paddy wagon"? What does that mean? "Policemen where Irish"... Where?
@Leon-wz1js
@Leon-wz1js 3 жыл бұрын
@@HansDelbruck53 it's not so much "where" but "when." from 1870's thru early 1900's nobody wanted civil service jobs. Typically, policemen and firemen. The "paddy wagon" was a horse drawn carriage. Mostly in large cities, but eventually in small towns too.
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leon-wz1js I was making fun of his or her misspelling. I know what a Paddy Wagon was.
@Leon-wz1js
@Leon-wz1js 3 жыл бұрын
@@HansDelbruck53 oh.
@SolCrown80
@SolCrown80 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many interesting connections between the Irish and America! For a long time I was not aware of the link between American Indians and the Irish until I learned about the aid that they had sent to the Irish during the famine, and the lovely "Kindred Spirits" monument you made to the Choctaw people in Midleton.
@wcg19891
@wcg19891 3 жыл бұрын
True story. When the Irish were building the Eerie canal part of their compensation was a bottle of whiskey that was given out in cups through the workday by the foreman. Explosives, pick axes, and whiskey !
@paullangland6877
@paullangland6877 3 жыл бұрын
The Irish Immigrants became cops and firefighters back in the day because they were low paying and dangerous jobs. That's why there was an American stereotype in TV shows and movies where the cops spoke with an Irish accent.
@bigdream_dreambig
@bigdream_dreambig 3 жыл бұрын
Still thought to be true on the east coast. See the T.V. show "Blue Bloods" about an Irish catholic family of cops in NYC.
@AtomicSquirrelHunter
@AtomicSquirrelHunter 3 жыл бұрын
And most Congressional Medal of Honor recipients are of Scotch or Irish heritage. Celts mixed with Viking blood. Ain't skeered.
@GeekDadMN
@GeekDadMN 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! America has a long history of hating on outsiders. While considered a melting pot, many groups were ostracized and essentially segregated. When some question why some Americans claim to be Irish or something else, the strong sentiment that pocketed people into separate communities, which still resonates today is what leads many to identify with these ethnic groups.
@peterjamesfoote3964
@peterjamesfoote3964 3 жыл бұрын
Your kindness comes out in the observance that prejudice against the outsider is nothing new. We must remember what we faced ourselves, in thinking about others today.
@saino2001
@saino2001 3 жыл бұрын
Growing up Catholic in America during the 1960's, my classmates and I were never taught anything but respect/admiration for Ireland and the Irish people. I even had Irish Catholic nuns as teachers, and you DEFINITELY respected them (or else!)
@garyoneal4649
@garyoneal4649 3 жыл бұрын
The Irish channel in New Orleans was hand dug by Irish laborers. It has been back filled since but that area is still know as the Irish channel district and yes was a tough area and proudly proclaimed as such. This gave pause to the French, Italian and Spanish sections to not start any trouble cuz they would get double. Glad to see that smile again....much love from Amurica!!!!
@LindaC616
@LindaC616 3 жыл бұрын
People say the same about all of the stone walls here in this part of the east coast
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
😃
@gregmcmahon957
@gregmcmahon957 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Weird Wednesday. I really love this video.I really hope you are having a very awesome weird Wednesday.
@alexismoberly6908
@alexismoberly6908 3 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather, who’s family was living in America since the before America was America was almost run out of town because he had red hair and a bushy beard. We are part Irish, but it’s just crazy that so many people can judge someone so harshly based on appearance and where they “come from”
@RandoCalrisiann
@RandoCalrisiann 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry you guys got treated so poorly. I am American, and Southern even, and I think you all are great!
@iceman34
@iceman34 3 жыл бұрын
And I’m glad you back!!! No comment yet on the St Patrick’s Battalion that started fight fir the USA and switched to the Mexican side during the US Meixco war. Movie about it starring Tom Berenger and others
@CaptainFrost32
@CaptainFrost32 3 жыл бұрын
I remember it was described in an episode of Bonanza.
@scott6256
@scott6256 3 жыл бұрын
My wife claims to have some Irish heritage. I’m just a mutt. Love the Irish and the Australians.
@FaithnSin
@FaithnSin 3 жыл бұрын
Australians are basically Irish, just with different accents lol (i’m Irish but grew up in Melbourne).
@the1911dude
@the1911dude 3 жыл бұрын
This is why a lot of us American Irish have such pride to our ancestry and we call our selves as Irish. Many of us grew up in Irish neighborhoods, and it’s has been a community we love.
@crochetwithmouse8160
@crochetwithmouse8160 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up knowing about the tales of the Irish need not apply and things like that. My sister and I are fourth generation here in the US. We are still looking up ancestry but we do still have family in Ireland not Northern but Southern. We have family from Cork, Mayo, Wicklo and a few other counties. One is also called Irish Free State I forget what the actual area is. My mom told us a lot of her mom's side. I am glad I did get to know my Great Uncle, he had an accent because his parents did. I miss how he sounded when he would talk. I had issues in school because I was young enough that I picked up on some of the sounds and the teachers would scorn me for not saying something correct. One relative helped build the St. Vincent church in Akron, OH
@nellom.8771
@nellom.8771 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! This is what I've been waiting for!
@1LivingCuriously
@1LivingCuriously 3 жыл бұрын
As an Italian American I'm very familiar with the hate my grandparents experienced when they came over.
@Sandman60077
@Sandman60077 3 жыл бұрын
Typical Italian, always trying to make it about you.
@stevennelson9504
@stevennelson9504 3 жыл бұрын
When the Union Pacific Railroad was building the transcontinental railroad, the used lots of horses and lots of Irish men. The railroad really hated to loose one of the horses.
@davidfair6900
@davidfair6900 2 жыл бұрын
Diane, I'm of irish decent and always found interest in things irish. I wish to visit Ireland someday and really learn about my heritage. Lots of love Davie
@Idieallot75
@Idieallot75 3 жыл бұрын
Italians and Sicilians had the same issues in America when they arrived here. I have that history in my family.
@Murph_gaming
@Murph_gaming 3 жыл бұрын
Bad blood between the Irish and Italians at one time but eventually I think the shared faith of Catholicism helped bring them together.
@Wednesdaywoe1975
@Wednesdaywoe1975 3 жыл бұрын
@@Murph_gaming There are a WHOLE lot of half Irsh, half Italian people, so yeah.
@Sandman60077
@Sandman60077 3 жыл бұрын
Typical Italians, always trying to make it about you.
@Idieallot75
@Idieallot75 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sandman60077 That’s a quarter about me!
@matthewcastleton2263
@matthewcastleton2263 2 жыл бұрын
And many Americans at the time thought Italians and Irish were all criminals because many of the mobsters/organized crimes syndicates largely were populated by/run by Irish and Italian families.
@justinschauwecker
@justinschauwecker 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that there was a lot of anti German sentiment in the US at one point. Which is why a lot of the midwestern US is of German ancestry.
@LindaC616
@LindaC616 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Someone at work whose ancestors were German does not know his family in Europe because his mother married his English father during World War II and would never talk about it. He grew up not knowing the language and can't communicate with his family over there
@jessmith7324
@jessmith7324 3 жыл бұрын
@@LindaC616 They probably can now if they use ancestery.com
@LindaC616
@LindaC616 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessmith7324 oh, thx, he knows who they are. They don't speak English, he doesn't speak German
@tadmurphy7436
@tadmurphy7436 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Diane, fun fact. My five times great grandfather Joshua or (Iosua)Murphy fought in the American revolution. I've traced him back to South Carolina 1750 1760 ish. He had 11 children. And I've narrowed down originally being from county Wexford or county Cork still working on that. I actually had plans to come to Ireland last July to do more research but we know how that went. You're awesome stay weird. ❤️💚☘️
@newsguy5241
@newsguy5241 Жыл бұрын
The Irish also fought for the Confederacy. The Irish Brigade of the Union squared off against an Irish brigade at Fredricksburg.
@tapuchris3329
@tapuchris3329 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. also, my grandmother is Irish and my grandfather is Italian.
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
☘️ 🇮🇹 you
@tapuchris3329
@tapuchris3329 3 жыл бұрын
@@DianeJennings You're welcome!
@eschalecdesign2009
@eschalecdesign2009 3 жыл бұрын
Similar. I have Irish ancestors from Limerick and Italian ancestors from the piedmont of Italy.
@tapuchris3329
@tapuchris3329 3 жыл бұрын
@@eschalecdesign2009 Awesome 😎
@lane6866
@lane6866 3 жыл бұрын
I've encountered evangelical Christians in the US who still consider Catholics to not be Christian or 'saved'. On a lighter note, there was a time in recent history when comedy claimed that Irish Americans were the only group that didn't take offense at their stereotypes, with the joke, "yeah, I'm Irish and drunk! Wanna fight about it?!"
@samieltheinfamous
@samieltheinfamous 3 жыл бұрын
Catholics and Mormons both. Hell, with the Mormons, Jesus Christ is even in the name of their church and they still get told they're not xian.
@samieltheinfamous
@samieltheinfamous 3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. None of the Abrahamics are tolerant of other faiths, "my god is the only god," yada yada...
@samieltheinfamous
@samieltheinfamous 3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. Yeah, Hindus can be pretty hardcore about religion, too. Heard a story a few years ago where a group of Hindus threw a severed pig's head into a mosque during evening prayer in Varanasi, which started a nasty little skirmish between them and the neighborhood Muslims. India's pretty volatile in that regard.
@SunwardRanger83
@SunwardRanger83 3 жыл бұрын
I've had people from a variety of religious sects try to "save" me, irritatingly not even asking what religion I follow in the first place, simply assuming I'm headed for hell. Depending on how obnoxious they are I either just smile politely and leave, or use the opportunity for some real life trolling. On a side note, anyone who leaves religious pamphlets for a waiter/waitress instead of a tip is going to hell. There's no version of God that's okay with that.
@renecordova6349
@renecordova6349 3 жыл бұрын
I have wondered about the Irish discrimination also! I was really surprised when I found out about this in the 1970's ! Thank you for enlightening me.....
@therealameliabedelia7821
@therealameliabedelia7821 3 жыл бұрын
In many areas, Italian immigrants were the group that took the Irish immigrants place. I was adopted into an Italian family where my grandmother was one of the first of her family born in America (the family immigrated in the early 1900s). She always told me stories about how the Irish-American kids would bully her and her siblings in the 30s.
@glueball214
@glueball214 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Diane. My Mum is very sensitive to this subject. She insisted on American names for her children and tries hard not to have an accent. I thought it was just her. How pervasive s this sentiment in Ireland ? And where did you get that informative video. I would be interested in more on this, thanks.💕
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
The video link is in the description. Mostly now the Irish are much loved by Americans. It’s a little more complicated with the English though.
@rockymcallister4258
@rockymcallister4258 3 жыл бұрын
An old American joke was, "why did God invent the wheelbarrow? To teach the Irish to walk upright." 😁🍺🍺🍺
@bmoher2011
@bmoher2011 3 жыл бұрын
My parents told me stories about moving from Ireland to Toronto Canada and seeing signs that said "Room for Rent-No Irish" or "Help wanted -No Irish" and that was in the 1960s. A lot has changed but they still have the Union Jack on their flag. When somebody in Kingston called me Papish nobody knew what they meant. I don't even go to church.
@derrickcox4233
@derrickcox4233 3 жыл бұрын
A great history lesson, Diane. Thanks. I think it speaks to the "frailty" of human nature. It takes personal effort to overcome these false stereotypes. We should come to love all people.
@statebriga8527
@statebriga8527 3 жыл бұрын
And as you said it yourself, now you have the same situation in Ireland when it comes to foreign workers. Foreigners are being accused of stealing jobs from Irish people. I have experienced that as a foreigner in Ireland.
@jayeisenhardt1337
@jayeisenhardt1337 3 жыл бұрын
I mean even Mexican scabs busted unions but would beat their own crossing the border to make their unions. It's always about the money and who ya can take from and get away with doing so.
@jorgejefferson8251
@jorgejefferson8251 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the main opposition to John F. Kennedy's run for the Presidency stemmed from the fact that he was of Irish Catholic ancestry. That was less than 60 years ago, and his election did a lot to put an end to the negative perception.
@rfmerrill
@rfmerrill 3 жыл бұрын
We just elected our *second* Catholic president out of 46
@effingya
@effingya 2 жыл бұрын
my grandparents were actually immigrants from Ireland and I remember them having comments like, "oh the puritan flavor" and things like that, but they were very successful
@rage_of_aquarius
@rage_of_aquarius 2 жыл бұрын
My gran collects old "Irish Welcome" signs and hangs then around her condo as her da once did.
@Armando_Brown32
@Armando_Brown32 3 жыл бұрын
Any day that she uploads is a good day. Hope you’re having a good day Diane! 🙂
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰
@spiked200
@spiked200 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like every country has an ugly past such as this.
@spiked200
@spiked200 3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. oh yes.....what was I ever... (turn page) thinking?
@jamescarmon4480
@jamescarmon4480 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@0816M3RC
@0816M3RC 3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. You definitely didn't help things Donald.
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. 'institutional racism' actually think Obama and Biden have/will lowered that but that's just cultural/social, what is most needed is better economics. For all.
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. Maybe you need to re-read my comment. As mentioned, I agree with you the economics are much more important
@oeg572
@oeg572 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that we have to pick on people because they are different. The Irish have contributed to our country in so many ways. I have learned so much watching your videos. Hi Chewey! 😊
@michaelblaine6494
@michaelblaine6494 3 жыл бұрын
I think that’s why those of us with Irish heritage take such pride in it over here
@josephcote6120
@josephcote6120 3 жыл бұрын
Anti-Catholic feeling applied to a number of immigrant groups. Italians were hated once, now embraced. My father's grandparents were immigrants from French Canada and suffered similar prejudice.
@briantevington1608
@briantevington1608 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure you spent a fortune to get this video up. I just want to say your dedication to your craft and viewers is admirable. Forget freaking out, it was a sign of professionalism. This was beyond anyone's control. You dealt with it beautifully.
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@briantevington1608
@briantevington1608 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Neifert - Her old MacBook died in the middle of editing the video.
@kurtischopty4925
@kurtischopty4925 3 жыл бұрын
Good work and persistence getting the video out , know the past few days must've been rough on you. This particular Canadian is pretty fond of the Irish. One amazing Irish person lately gave me a tip to try this Ballymaloe relish on a homemade burger and it was outstanding! Turning me into a Irishman I think...
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I’m glad you luv it too!
@HousewolfDaddy
@HousewolfDaddy 3 жыл бұрын
I love the description... at least two of my recent ancestors are from “those Irish people that got around” 😂 I did a genetic test recently, and Irish tested highest with 39.5% and supposedly we have a connection to the King Coel who was once attributed as being the center of the “Old King Cole” nursery rhyme, though that’s apparently been proven unlikely that the song was about him. Side note: there is some evidence that we likely are direct descendants of King Coel, though it’s hard to prove definitively. My family of that particular surname have been tracking our ancestry for hundreds of years. I thought that was kinda neat since I just found out about it recently.
@bubbles9975
@bubbles9975 3 жыл бұрын
Love ❤️ this channel
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
AWWW!
@bubbles9975
@bubbles9975 3 жыл бұрын
@@DianeJennings // 🥰 your videos are always wonderfully presented 😃
@LarryHatch
@LarryHatch 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid on Hibernophobia. (Yes, that is the real term for it). In the day, they called the Irish "Papists" or "Romanists" as a derogatory term. It was considered by some (not the Catholic Italians for sure) that the Pope was a replacement for Jesus Christ if not the anti-Christ incarnate. That's an extreme view for sure but the Pope-anti-Christ view is still heard today. The film Gangs of New York is a great look at those early Irish political dealings, politics, corruption, etc. The history of Irish hatred is almost surreal. There were the "Bible Riots" of 1844 because an Irish school administrator did not want Irish children exposed to the protestant Bible in schools. What would Jesus do? Obviously he'd burn down all the houses of people who disagreed with you! The Pope's invasion was talked about and the Protestants claimed there were plans for a New Vatican City to be established in Cincinnati of all places! They even called the Irish "Celtic ape-men" and drew cartoons very similar to those they drew for African-Americans as monkeys. Horrible stuff.
@davidhamilton8232
@davidhamilton8232 3 жыл бұрын
My mother's great grandfather left Ireland during the famine and he was forced to change his name from McGuire to Wickwire I heard stories that his name was changed because the immigration agent couldn't understand him because of his accent. I believe that he kept the name because it sounded more American and the fact that the Irish were treated so poorly he didn't want his decedents to be treated poorly and that is my belief in why he never changed his name back to McGuire.
@wickideazy
@wickideazy 3 жыл бұрын
My grandparents came here from Italy in the 1920s. When she was alive, my grandmother would talk about "Italians Not Welcome," "WOPs Need Not Apply," and other absolute nonsense they had to deal with back in the day. It's no wonder immigrants from different countries tended to group together in particular neighborhoods - so they could look out for their own and keep the bigots out.
@deathharpproductions3094
@deathharpproductions3094 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend the "The Irish in America: Long Journey Home" TV mini-series if you would like to see the real story. But in many cases, our bad reputation was well earned in the slums of the cities we arrived in.
@jayeisenhardt1337
@jayeisenhardt1337 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, take a step from individual to a group and everyone has a bad rep, there are always people doing bad things to earn it.
@markellis6101
@markellis6101 3 жыл бұрын
When I was young and asked what I was, my parents said "mostly Catholic Irish." While my last name is Ellis, throughout my ancestry was Malone, Keenan, Coyne and O'Neil. Did Ancestry test. I am only 20% Irish and 80% English. So I think my ancestors have been lying or were frisky with the English hangin' out in their towns...Instead of Jungle Fever it must have been Anglo Fever...
@LindaC616
@LindaC616 3 жыл бұрын
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@rettawhinnery
@rettawhinnery 3 жыл бұрын
Despite what the DNA companies tell you, they cannot really differentiate among countries in a region. Countries are political entities, not genetic entities. Additionally, the ethnicity estimates are supposed to identify where your ancestors lived 500 to 1000 years ago, before inter-continental travel. However, there are no living people that old, so they build their reference populations from living people who say that all four of their grandparents were born in the same location. So, both English and Irish are similar to other Western European ethnicities, such as French, German, Wales, etc. Not all DNA companies divvy up the ethnicities in the same way.
@markellis6101
@markellis6101 3 жыл бұрын
@@rettawhinnery So....my Shamrock hopes spring eternal?
@rettawhinnery
@rettawhinnery 3 жыл бұрын
@@markellis6101 Yep, pretty much. My documented ancestors came from Ireland, but they were probably English Quakers that settled in Ireland under Cromwell. The royal family of England are mainly German. AncestryDNA just changed most of my Irish ethnicity to Scottish, go figure.
@markellis6101
@markellis6101 3 жыл бұрын
@@rettawhinnery It does make sense. However, I have a friend who is American Irish, and when he did a genealogy there were only Irish from Ireland identified. Then when he did his DNA analysis it was 99% Irish. But yeah, I understand. It seems every few months when I check back in my ancestry changes here and there.
@lowellweeks1448
@lowellweeks1448 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my mom telling the stories of how her grandfather couldn't get a job. I was too young to realize that he was easily identifiable through his accent. He came over around 1900 or so with his wife.
@1sewalker
@1sewalker 3 жыл бұрын
I do not recall where I heard or read this. to get away from the hate, many Irish moved to Appalachia and are now the descendants of the hill people. I was able to find one reference but I did not do a deep dive into the subject. HOME SWEET HOME Later in the 19th century and by the Civil War, the migration of the Scotch-Irish to western North Carolina was completed. Tens of thousands of them had arrived, in a multi-generational movement of settlement and resettlement. They brought with them their religion, folk traditions, and cultural traits which contributed to the distinctive cultural mix that developed in Southern Appalachia. Today, the Scotch-Irish influence continues to impact the people of western North Carolina.
@joeroberts920
@joeroberts920 3 жыл бұрын
Amen without Scots Irish influence there would be no Piedmont triad or Appalachian hillfolk tradition!
@patrickwentz8413
@patrickwentz8413 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Diane could you do a video on Irish TV shows? I have never seen one and would like to know which are the best ones. I like British TV shows like Doc Martin. Oh yeah one thing about the video there was an olde saying about arriving peoples: "the Irish ran to the Polls (for elected office) and the Germans ran to the pubs (drunkards of course)" so it was not so cheery all over. A Union Officer (probably a WASP from New England...) complained of his German and Irish Soldiers stinking of beer, onions and potatoes. The German and Irish in this country had a lot in common in dealing with our mutual adversary the local WASPs who resented us.
@LindaC616
@LindaC616 3 жыл бұрын
Start with Father Ted, free on Amazon Prime. I would love her to do a video on others
@DianeJennings
@DianeJennings 3 жыл бұрын
I did one on kids tv shows here. I want to do Derry girls but need to track down an mp4 of episode 1
@LindaC616
@LindaC616 3 жыл бұрын
@@DianeJennings That would be good because I have heard references to that show but have never seen it
@patrickwentz8413
@patrickwentz8413 3 жыл бұрын
@@DianeJennings thank you
@shepgreenberg7659
@shepgreenberg7659 3 жыл бұрын
It always comes down to "they're taking our jobs" add in the religious issue and well...there you go
@newdamage5945
@newdamage5945 3 жыл бұрын
BINGO
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 жыл бұрын
Race, religion and immigrants seems to be a common pattern around the world for all kinds of problems.
@effexon
@effexon 3 жыл бұрын
what makes US interesting, that 100% time for centuries people come and go there , so.... but still people there are same as everywhere, not liking newcomers (it s nothing special, I bet Dubliner goes to some small town, has to "win trust" there also)
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 жыл бұрын
@@effexon Most people have no idea, but these days immigration into the EU is higher than the US.
@effexon
@effexon 3 жыл бұрын
@@autohmae yup I've noticed. And EU is not at all capable of taking so many people, perhaps US has better resources and more jobs. Add to this, UK and France, Spain at least have colonial history, which even without EU has pressure of lots of people wanting to come to those countries, study and work. Then there is former soviet countries, which also think similar way. And somehow this, western? ideology to encourage foreign workers means some companies made business and actively find people from faraway countries to import people. To say the least, public institutions have way less people to handle all paperwork created by these booms, supertrends. And in UK they said original idea was to give eg. exchange student opportunity for those people(then get that knowledge and go back to home country to build it), but most of them just stayed in UK, creating a problem with such huge number of people. Im not aware of current US situation but in EU it is way over capabilities of countries and it is no end in sight.
@karlobrien5530
@karlobrien5530 3 жыл бұрын
Despite my last name, I’ve not a drop of Irish blood in me! My great-grandfather on my dad’s side was from Lithuania, and he changed his name to O’Brien because he thought it would help him get a job in 1920s Chicago. I always think about that in relation to the prejudice the Irish faced when they first started coming to America en masse: what they all had to do to even be respected.
@markw-s5734
@markw-s5734 3 жыл бұрын
My family first came to America in the mid 1700’s but they first moved from Ireland to England where they had converted to Quakerism and became financially successful enough to buy into a Royal charter in New Jersey. So my first generation Irish ancestors here didn’t have the problems that my later ancestors immigrants did. But they basically had to hide their Irishness to do so.
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